There was a time when evolutionary thinking was widely considered to be the key to racial self-defense. Although it didn’t play a role in the Congressional debates (itself an indication of the rapidly changing intellectual context), evolutionary thinking was prominent among some of the elite intellectual proponents of immigration restriction in the 1920s. This was the heyday of eugenics—motivated by concern about deterioration of the gene pool because modern civilization had increased the moral and intellectual burdens of life at the same time that natural selection had been relaxed. Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt against Civilization: The Menace of the Under-Man exemplifies these trends.
Even by the mid-20s the Boasian onslaught against the idea of race and against Western culture generally had become ensconced in elite universities. It continued that way for the next 50 years, when E. O. Wilson included a chapter on humans in his Sociobiology: A New Synthesis. This set off a storm of outrage by the usual academic suspects (see here), but all of their outrage could not prevent the establishment of evolutionary outposts, especially in psychology and anthropology, and academic societies such as The Human Behavior and Evolution Society.
What is remarkable about these developments is that they have completely failed to challenge the dominance of elite consensus on all things related to immigration and multiculturalism. Evolutionary psychology is a paradigm, loudly proclaiming the idea that evolution did indeed sculpt the mind, but that all humans were alike because we all evolved in the same environment. This takes issues like race differences completely off the table. It also avoids discussing IQ, a measure that is strongly heritable, shows rather large race differences, and is linked to success in life in contemporary societies. IQ is the one measure that is most feared by the anti-White coalition.
In general, the academics who carried on the evolutionary tradition managed to stay within the liberal consensus because they completely avoided any discussion of human fitness. By positing a uniform human evolutionary past and ignoring genetic differences, a whole lot of critical issues were taken off the table—things like the fact that African-Americans and Latinos have higher birth rates than White Americans, or that immigration results in long-term fitness costs for the host population. No field biologist would ignore findings that one sub-species of animal is reproducing faster than another sub-species. Field biologists would also be very interested in situations where sub-species or even a differently defined group invades another’s territory — again, because it would change gene frequencies and that is what evolution is all about. Chimpanzees patrol their territories for a good reason.
I was thinking of this as I read this review of The Folly of Fools by Robert Trivers. Trivers is an important biologist much of whose work has involved elucidating the implications of what the reviewer, John Horgan, terms “our genes’ relentless drive to self-replicate.” The topic of his recent book is deception and self-deception, seen as self-interested strategies aimed at increasing fitness. Regarding deception:
Trivers calls deceit a “deep feature” of life, even a necessity, given genes’ brutal struggle to prevail. Anglerfish lure prey by dangling “bait” in front of their jaws, edible butterflies deter predators by adopting the coloring of poisonous species. Possums play possum, cowbirds and cuckoos avoid the hassle of raising offspring by laying their eggs in other birds’ nests. Even viruses and bacteria employ subterfuge to sneak past a host’s immune systems. The complexity of organisms, Trivers suggests, stems at least in part from a primordial arms race between deceit and deceit-detection.
Our big brains and communication skills make us master dissemblers. … We engage in “confirmation bias,” which makes us seize on facts that bolster our preconceptions and overlook contradictory data. We wittingly and unwittingly inflate the qualities of ourselves and others in our religious, political or ethnic group.
Right. Using our big brain, humans can write academic treatises denying the reality of race and race differences, like the Boasians; they can persuade presidents that a war against Iraq would be easily won, would remove a dangerous enemy of the United States, and would democratize the entire Arab world yearning for democracy and freedom. The big difference from the environments we evolved in is that now even in-your-face deception can be effectively covered up because of ethnic influence on the media and the political process. Successful ethnic strategies thus utilize an entirely different set of mechanisms for deception than were available in the Pleistocene.
And then there’s self-deception:
Fooling others yields obvious benefits, but why do we so often fool ourselves? Trivers provides a couple of answers. First, believing that we’re smarter, sexier and more righteous than we really are — or than others consider us to be — can help us seduce and persuade others and even improve our health, via the placebo effect, for example. And the more we believe our own lies, the more sincerely, and hence effectively, we can lie to others. “We hide reality from our conscious minds the better to hide it from onlookers,” Trivers explains. But our illusions can have devastating consequences, from the dissolution of a marriage to stock-market collapses and world wars.
Although he indicts many nations for denying their sins, he is especially incensed by Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the United States’ treatment of American Indians, blacks, the Vietnamese, Iraqis, Afghans and other groups. I found Trivers too shrill in these sections, even though my political views overlap with his. Also questionable are his put-downs of cultural anthropologists, whom he accuses of denying — for ideological rather than scientific reasons — biological research that can deepen our understanding of human behavior. In my experience, evolutionary scholars are at least as driven by ideology as cultural anthropologists are.
I haven’t read Trivers’ book, but one wonders at what evolutionary reasoning is involved in moral condemnation, since he clearly must realize that acting on the basis of moral imperatives could affect “our genes’ relentless drive to self-replicate.” Why should we care about Trivers’ shrill moralizing when we should be busy calculating our fitness costs and benefits in the current rapidly changing environment (using our big brain which, as we have seen, is useful in plotting deception, among other things)?
As I have noted, all of the movements discussed in The Culture of Critique were presented as moral imperatives. There is
a general tendency for self-deception among Jews as a robust pattern apparent in several historical eras and touching on a wide range of issues, including personal identity, the causes and extent of anti-Semitism, the characteristics of Jews (e.g., economic success), and the role of Jews in the political and cultural process in traditional and contemporary societies (see here). Self-deception may well be important in facilitating Jewish involvement in the movements discussed here. I have noted evidence for this in the case of Jewish political radicals, and Greenwald and Schuh (1994) persuasively argue that the ingroup ethnic bias exhibited by their sample of researchers on prejudice is not conscious. Many of the Jews involved in the movements reviewed here may sincerely believe that these movements are really divorced from specifically Jewish interests or are in the best interests of other groups as well as Jews. They may sincerely believe that they are not biased in their associational patterns or in their patterns of citation in scientific articles, but, as Trivers notes (1985), the best deceivers are those who are self-deceived. (See here, pp. 241-242)
These movements ushered in the reign of terror in which any hint of White identity and White genetic interests have been banned from polite society. The cultural success of these movements, now aggressively enforced by the legal system and by a myriad of informal sanctions, are collectively leading to the suicide of the West. Evolutionists should be concerned about that.
Unfortunately, Trivers is centering himself in this very long and effective (only in Western societies) intellectual tradition of moral critique. As to whether it’s deception or self-deception, only he would know. And the same might be said for the other popularizers of evolutionary thinking on humans mentioned in Horgan’s review: Richard Dawkins (here’s Frank Salter’s critique of Dawkins) and (my personal favorite) Steven Pinker, who holds the Stephen Jay Gould Chair for Politically Correct Popularization of Evolutionary Biology at Harvard.
Of course, the most elaborate and elegant (and rock solid) contemporary view on fitness in human populations is Frank Salter’s On Genetic Interests—where, for example, he calculates the fitness costs of immigration into European societies of groups differing in the genetic distance from Europeans. Unfortunately, these ideas are not visible in evolutionary accounts of human behavior that make it into the mainstream media—another aspect of the critical role of the media for successful deception in the contemporary world.
Facing the Future as a Minority
I was hopeful when I read where Pinker shot down some of Freud’s garbage. It’s a pity he’s also on the same lines as Gould.
Scorpion and the Frog. As in the story, both die. Jews will not last in a non-white society. Arabs will go against them, and minorities will see them as White, no matter how much they scream from their gated communities they are not racist.
This could be Natures way of saying, White man has gone FAR ENOUGH, time for the Asians to take over, do genetic engineering, and come up with super-IQ humanoids, which is exactly what will eventually happen. After you get past 250 IQ, you are no longer human. After 350 you can predict the future with relative problematicability, communicate without words (telepathy), and you would see human behavior as predictable and mundane. Humans cannot be human over a ’250′ IQ, and Whites will not be pushing this, Asians will.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/science/19watson.html James D. Watson Issues Apology for Comments About Blacks
http://boycottnyt.com/ Boycott The New York Times – Stop the bias and journalistic abuses
Jews run the N.Y. Times, the boycott against it, and the U.S. government but only we few know the extent of the problem. Anti-racist means anti-White. Anti-racist liberalism means exploit Whites via the warfare state. Anti-racist neocon conservatism means exploit Whites via the warfare state. Please tell your friends and neighbors.
@Wiggy:
“. After you get past 250 IQ, you are no longer human. After 350 you can predict the future with relative problematicability, communicate without words (telepathy), and you would see human behavior as predictable and mundane. Humans cannot be human over a ’250′ IQ, and Whites will not be pushing this, Asians will.”
While Asians do seem to be set to be the next “dominant race” economically at least, they have an average IQ of 106 as opposed to the average White’s of 100. It is not all that great a difference (remember we are talking averages here). As to “no longer being human” at the magic IQ of 250 (by the way, where DO you get this stuff?), Marylyn Vos Savant who supposedly has the “highest IQ of any female” at 185, still looks pretty average to me, still having the usual 2 legs and arms, all the other “human” traits and does not seem to think of herself as approaching superhuman status. Yeah, I know you said “250″ so those extra 65 IQ points would take her into “other specieshood”? Predict the future with an IQ of 350? Communicate with telepathy? Better living through recombinant DNA? So the Asians will be propelling themselves into godhood? LOL You seem to be forgetting that the Asians just recently “broke out” into their very own industrial revolution, thanks largely to copying our technology and thanks to the Jews for exporting it to them. It was not all that long ago that Japan was still a feudal society, China was using human labor to man their farms and Indians were still practicing Sati. Who do you think gave these people the technology that they enjoy today? As for the Jews, they still have the highest average IQ of any peoples on this planet (107 to 115). It was Jewish wealth and planning that gave the Asians the technology and industrial wealth that they enjoy today (at our expense, naturally) , and the Asians have to catch up with Jewish IQ before they can “communicate telepathically”. If anything, Jews already have achieved world dominance in finance and politcal power (the things that really matter) and they are not about to give up their position to any other racial group. The Asians owe their new wealth and status to Jewish financiers.
The western “democracy” is another name for western colonization. The western, like many other things, have double meaning for democracy too. While in the West, 1% control the democracy – in the non-West, the western installed and protected stooges, become the symbol of western “democratic system”.
American philosopher, Dr. Noam Chomsky, has summed up the western desire to spread democracy in the Muslim world by saying that “the West is affraid to bring democracy to the Muslim world because it always brings up Islamists in power”.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/chomsky-us-considers-democratic-me-a-threat/
Very insightful commentary, Kevin. The delusional, make believe, manipulated Anglo-Western world that we inhabit is what comes to mind when reading an article like yours. Jewry and their minions have riddled the Western intellectual and cultural edifice with such toxic, destructive and subversive memes, that the structure of White-Western Civilization is literally collapsing before our very eyes.
“Trivers is centering himself in this very long and effective (only in Western societies) intellectual tradition of moral critique. As to whether it’s deception or self-deception, only he would know.”
If Trivers is self-deceived then how would he know it?
It’s funny how the Anglos, who are the founders of empiricism and modern science in general, are the ones who are most vulnerable to malicious alien sophistry. I suppose the reason is that, to be objective, you have to be less judgemental, and that leaves a lot of room for outside infiltration into your culture. It’s a shame actually, since Anglo virtues are now leading to their downfall. History is quite ironic, not to mention tragic.
@fender: “since Anglo virtues are now leading to their downfall.” Excellent observation, Brother Fender.
In fact, I’ve predicted that Ron Paul will be the last polite, soft-spoken and genteel White political leader who attempt to rally the White founding stock of this rapidly decomposing nation around the principles that lead to it’s founding. This is something that our jewish enemies might want to make note of; Ron Paul is the last velvet glove that they will see.
Either Ron Paul gets elected and begins the long overdue process of de-jewification of America in a relatively painless and orderly fashion, or a White leader will arise in the very near future who will have a pair of steel fists and this process will take place in a far more dramatic and unpleasant fashion.
Personally, I am salivating over the far more likely second option.
@fender:
Goodness Gracious fender!!!
Don’t speak as if it’s all over. The fight hasn’t even begun yet. We’ve got a good 50 years to sort this thing sorted out.
@Junghans: Very true . I find it spooky , that the basis of multiculturalism (racial equality) is so similar to USSR communism (financial-social equality) and the manner that it must be implemented is virtually the same-legalism . Yet from the supposed great minds and protectors of the Western Civilisation , silence . Mad silence .They sit in their counting houses juggling in their brilliant minds all the possibilities for the future utopia AND can’t see the obvious . Truly self deception or perhaps just self interested self deception , in that these gurus realise that what happens after their death is not going to effect them , so why be concerned with negative thoughts , that take the shine of one’s day . Selfish intellectuals are really a dime a dozen .
Do Whites need a new, violent, ultra-bigoted form of Christianity? IMHO we need something like this:
Attila the Hun White Racist Christianity
1) The Second Coming of Christ shall be incarnated in a Hungarian man.
2) God has ordained that Hungarians shall rule the world.
3) The White Christian Hungarian people shall use God and Christ to unite the White European peoples of the world.
4) When all Jews and Moslems are dead then Jesus Christ shall return and preside over all the world.
How might this work? We take Hungarian boys and girls and use brainwashing techniques developed by Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Nazis, Communists, and religious cults. First we take over Hungary and then all the other predominantly White countries, one by one. What is wrong with these ideas?
The problem with Anglos is the rejection of the Orthodox understanding of the church fathers that Christ as “the word” of God has given the world it’s order and life, and that by honestly looking at the physical world, it’s order, biological realities (including race), we can perceive the will of God in order rather than chaos. With the deep intellectual and spiritual union of this worldview, Christianity would be a life-giving and sustaining force for the European peoples, rather than it’s current perverse Judaized form wherein the mission of the Church seems to be the advancement of chaos into every aspect of life, both in our countries and exported via military conquest into the rest of the world.
It is anti-order, ant-life, and anti-truth, which makes it Anti-Christ. The rejection of the Logos. With that rejection, should anyone be surprised that Christ the Galileean’s greatest enemies would fill the gap immediately and render our faith not only meaningless, but an active tool for the destruction of the Christ-bearing race? Judeo-Christianity is the great deception we were warned about.
If you seriously doubt the power of a united White Christendom to break the backs of the Synagogue of Satan, then you simply have to ignore the trembling fear of Christianity by the Jews. It scares them to death. Look at the virulent hatred of Tim Tebow first and go from there. The man isn’t even a WN in any meaningful sense of the term, but his enormity, athleticism, and deep devotion to the scarred God and utter rejection of Judaized filth-culture scares the living piss out of the media. They hate him. Something to ponder.
Instilling fear/rage in your enemy is the first step in neutralizing his power. We should (and I have to *great effect*) use his example to reveal the anti-white, anti-Christ, anti-civilization bias of the Judaic media. White conservatives love what Tebow stands for. They stand before a cliff…nudge them off.
The book’s dedication:
“In memory of Dr. Huey P. Newton, Black Panther and dear friend”
Unfortunately, based on a quick scan, the remainder is 90% leftist diatribe.
@Less IQ than a Jew:
Sorry dude. Rev. Pat Robertson claimed in 2002 that the Anti-Christ will be a Jews (most probably in Israel). According to Evangelists’ narration – Jesus will return to convert Jews to Christianity and whosoever, refuse to do that – will be put to sword.
Islamic view of the “End of Times” is to replace the tyrants elites with pious leaders; establish peace, justic and human-rights in the world. According to many Islamic scholars, these will be achieved by the Believers under the leadership of Muslim Jesus. Once, Jesus has fulfilled his mission – the Qiyamah will come – not during the period of wars and turmoils but after the peace is established.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/iran-end-times-the-messiah-and-israeli-hasbara/
@Rehmat: What percentage of Moslems believe that the Jews are behind 9/11? The Attila the Hun White racist Christianity doctrine might require considerable tinkering. It seems that most people need to live according to some religion. Jews claim that the ZOG does not exist, but the facts about media, finance and academe prove that Jews manipulate the international financial systems for the benefit of Jews. Jews own almost all the politicians as a study of recent history will show. The ZOG is not so much a formal conspiracy as merely the natural outcome of what Jews do. As White racists who are we? What is our culture? We have a basically European culture that is implicitly White. However, Jews have turned much of our culture into schlock. What is our religion? White racists are mostly Christians, agnostics or atheists with a few Wotanists and others. The ZOG has destroyed traditional Christianity, which portrayed Jews as greedy and evil.
http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/focus/antisemitism/ Antisemitism: The Longest Hatred
The emotions of love and hate have natural explanations. All of Jewish culture is parasitic and exploitative with clever hypocrisy and relentless propaganda. Darwinian evolution over many centuries of usury has created the Jew with high IQ and genetically-programmed superiority in deception, manipulation and exploitation. You can take the Jew out of the pawnshop but you cannot take the pawnshop out of the Jew. Why does the U. S. media fail to mention the race or ethnicity of criminals? The ZOG wants it that way. Why does the ZOG want it that way? Blacks are cannibal-like and Jews are exploiter-like, but Jews hide these basic facts. What is going on?
http://judaism.about.com/od/jewishnetworking/ Jewish Networking
Jews use genius and networking to fleece and slaughter the White people who believe Jew MSM. Jews perpetuate deception, manipulation and exploitation against Christians. Christians target Jews with persecution, exclusion, exile and pogroms. Life is brutal. Life is always brutal with corrupt politics and economic exploitation. Jews have used cultural Marxism to destroy traditional Christianity and to harm Whites with international capitalism and international capitalism. What can be done about the ZOG? White racists might try to create a Hungarian Unification Nation (HUN) that practices Attila the Hun White Racist Christianity. Let us assume that a significant percentage of Hungarians can somehow be persuaded or brainwashed into practicing Attila the Hun White Racist Christianity. What would this religion consist of? What would be the catechism of this form of Christianity?
A catechism is a summary or exposition of doctrine, traditionally used in Christian religious teaching from New Testament times to the present.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechism
The fundamentalism catechism might be something like:
Question: Who is the greatest man who has ever lived?
Answer: Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Question: Who is the second greatest man who has ever lived?
Answer: Attila the Hun, who is the greatest ancestor of the Second Coming of Christ. Could variants of these ideas lead to a greatly improved form of Christianity for White racists? Could some members of Jobbik have a favorable response to these ideas?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik (All four of the online sources quoted here are ZOG propaganda along with most of the www but you can get some idea of the truth by using your own judgment.)
@George:
Yes its random, speculative, but what you can do with an IQ of 250 would be far beyond what is comprehensible to normal humans. Ever work around Genious level people? They are on a different level.
IQ will be the ‘Holy Grail’ – Increasing brain size, IQ, etc. That will be the holy grail of genetics. Yes, health, but then intelligence, and do you think Whites will be messing with IQ and genetics? No way, moral imperitives, Political Correctness will interfere.
China or Asia in general does not have the same moral character. So they will gleefully use Western technology that is ‘given’ to them, to advance their own race. Evolution will come from a test tube. Im sure they are already experimenting with human embryos at levels we cannot imagine, they have no laws against this.
A 350-450+ IQ will mean yes, telepethy, 5th 6th dimentional perspectives, etc. They will be far far advanced from humans. What happens to humans we can only guess. This is the next 100 years.
Kevin. What do you not understand about the naturalistic fallacy? Despite the fact that you were said to have taken philosophy, you can’t seem to wrap your noggin around this most basic concept.
“Why should we care about Trivers’ shrill moralizing when we should be busy calculating our fitness costs and benefits in the current rapidly changing environment (using our big brain which, as we have seen, is useful in plotting deception, among other things)?”
Individuals have interests and desires. They’re not obligated to do things that just happen to increase the frequency of any genes that they happen to possess. More here for anyone who is actually interested in logic.
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/003501.html
@matthew: Matthew, I don’t see the naturalistic fallacy here.
Dr. MacDonald simply states the following:
1) ethnic interests do exist
2) feeling ethnic and racial solidarity is natural
3) those biologists etc. who state otherwise (i.e. who deny points 2 and 3) seriously distort the truth, probably for political reasons
4) Jews who commit 3) are incidentally furthering their own ethnic interests
5) whites (and only whites) are denied the right to further their ethnic interests, while everybody else is permitted to do that
6) point 5) and the policies that follow from it (mass immigration etc.) will inevitably lead to serious damage to white ethnic interests
Of course, nobody is obligated to further their ethnic interests. However, in the absence of PC oppression, people (even whites) will tend to be ethnocentric. The question is (and the burden of proof is on you here), why is PC oppression good, when it can only lead to harm to white genetic interests and gains to everybody else’s. Why is everybody else more worthy than whites?
IQ test scores are completely irrelevant to the battle against race-replacement and the White race revolt in general…nothing could be more obvious.
@wattylersrevolt: IQ test scores are not irrelevant when fighting the false notion that “race has no biological basis”. They are only partially relevant when fighting immigration, and they are almost totally irrelevant in countries experiencing high-IQ immigration (like Australia, where the bulk of the immigrants are coming from East Asia).
And I would also add the following:Anyone who believes that IQ test score psychometrics are absolutley crucial to the Native Born White American Movement against race-replacement at the hands of high fertility post-1965 nonwhites is completely clueless.
“These movements ushered in the reign of terror in which any hint of White identity and White genetic interests have (sic) been banned from polite society. The cultural success of these movements, now aggressively enforced by the legal system and by a myriad of informal sanctions…”
Hate to keep repeating it, but this is just not true.
What has been “banned” or subject to social and financial penalties in our contemporary society are statements denigrating so-called minority groups and not just such statements by white Americans about white Americans. I wonder why that is so hard to understand. Is white American identity simply equated to raining on others’ parades, or is white American identity about white Americans?
There is a whole world out there of issues and ideas that we can talk about in our white voice and in a white centric way. How did our identity, values, goals, and futures become confused with the identity, values, goals, and futures of others?
There is something seriously wrong with our perception of ourselves, and we need to take a good look at all the elements of white identity and white genetic interests from a white centric point of view.
@The Admiral On Horseback:
Here’s the thing, the concept underlining your first premise, “ethnic interests” is undefined. What is a white ethnic interest? Why does it exist now, when before Whites were fighting against one another for hundred of years. (You should see what the French used to say about the Germans, and Americans about the Irish) Furthermore, the proclivities to rape may also be natural (in fact they are likely to be) but that doesn’t mean it’s OK to act on them.
Admiral
Your post is an example of the cluelessness that I mentioned. You want the millions of ordinary Native Born White Americans to engage in a “deep” psychometric debate with who?…Asians in our America? People get the race issue on a blood and guts-viseral-gut feeling level when they have to deal with predatory hostile Asians in our America. Why do think the wonderfull Chinese Exclusion Act-we can thank a Jewish Socialist Samuel Gompers) and an Irish immigrant for its passage- was passed in the 19th century?…after a prolonged psychometric debate with Asian immigrants?
Everyone should stop acting so damn tribal. That’s the premise of the enlightenment that KMac purports to value so highly.
Matthew
You are playing a word game..define the European population out of existence..therefore race-replacement is a nonissue. Reality:Native Born White Americans really do exist..moreover, millions of these “nonexistent” people are waking up to the brutal fact that millions of hostile high fertility nonwhites are actively participating in Native Born White American race-replacement.
If you want to live among nonwhites..pack up and go live in China,India..Iran…the debate that you want to have won’t take place…you are being read the Riot Act:there will be a full-blown Native Born White American Revolt against race-replacement.and what are you going to do about it?
@wattylersrevolt: The best way to maintain the share of the white population is to work on repealing NAFTA, which sends farmers over the border. I am not defining whites out of existence- they built this country – only asking what defined a genetic interest. I wish you all the best in your struggle to stop immigration.
@wattylersrevolt: No, I don’t want the millions of Americans to understand anything from science at all. I want scientists to start acting like scientists.
If you think that you can translate the gut feelings to political action without scientific respectability, you are mistaken. You need the intellectual elites to turn, otherwise you will have no political action. Now the intellectual elites will not turn as long as they believe that race (or, by the way, ethnicity) has been proven to have no biological basis, that only idiots with no knowledge of science believe in such stupid ideas.
@wattylersrevolt: If you don’t believe in the importance of psychometrics, just drop the argument. It’s only needed to scientifically establish the biological reality of race.
However, it has another use. By showing that blacks are not quite so intelligent as whites, we can also show that the reason for lower black incomes and higher black crime is not white racism. Therefore, it’s a good self-defense argument. But if you think there are other, better self-defense arguments, feel free to use those.
Off topic, but interesting:
Jewish professor still under fire for slamming “too White” Iowa.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/45852078/#45852078
Admiral
Not to be mean, but..you are more clueless than I previously realized. Profanity is not allowed on this site..but I can tell you this:I know many Native Born White American Engineers and Programmers who-after contact with the Hindus,Sihks and Chinese at tech-engineering companies-use very colorfull..”racist” language when talking about their Asian coworkers-scab labor replacements..no vapid-mind-numbing-the eyes-glaze-over psychometric debates..take note of this Kevin Mcdonald,Jared Taylor and Peter Brimelow…more and more Native Born White Americans learn through painfull and traumatic experience that a vicious race war is being waged against them.
Matthew
We can have serious discussion aout NAFTA…however the only serious way to stop and reverse Native Born White American race-replacement is”1)0 nonwhite immigration and 2)mass expulsions.
If John McCain had won on Nov 4 2008, the US would have errupted into a full-blown race war-especially if it had been a very close election as in 2000..we would be well on our way by now to implementing 1) and 2) by now.
@matthew: First, even though Europeans did hate each other occasionally, it doesn’t mean they didn’t consider all Europeans superior to all Africans, for example. We know that they did.
Second, I find Salter’s example particularly compelling. Imagine you had unprotected sex with a woman when you were young. (It did happen to me, for example.) Imagine you never met the girl subsequently. (Ditto.) Now imagine that girl knocks your door ten years later. You open the door, and she stands there with a roughly nine-year-old child. She tells you you are the father. Now of course you might disbelieve. Imagine a DNA test subsequently confirms her statement.
How will you feel towards the child? Although it’s very difficult to predict (it has never happened to me, and in all likelihood will never happen to me), I suspect many men would start to have some feelings towards this, previously unknown child. The question is, where does that feeling come from? Obviously, DNA-tests have not been around for a long time… and yet, the sure knowledge that the child is your biological child, will have some effect on you. Same things for races.
Admiral
That’s the Brimelow,Mangan, and Sailer argument. Since last March ,there have been over 50 violent gang racial attacks on Native Born White Americans by black youth flash mobs. What happens if Rommney wins a very close election over the African? Do you really think there is going to be an intense psychometric discussion with an enraged black population? What are you three smoking? We are beyond the point of civil discussion.
Kevin M
Raise the race and IQ score issue and you will always with 100 percent certainty sidetrack away from an intense discussion about race-replacement to a discussion about the finer points of psychometrics of IQ tests…especially with an opponent who knows what they talking about.
@matthew: First of all, I ain’t so sure that Professor MacDonald is as much of an uncritical cheerleader for the Enlightenment as your follow-up comment suggests. But since he can speak for himself (should he wish to) far better than I could ever hope to speak for him, I’ll leave the matter there.
My primary objection to your linked comment is this: Whatever the merits of your contention, about which reasonable men will differ (as they have been differing for a full century), surely you must acknowledge that your description of the so-called naturalistic fallacy as “this most basic concept” is one heck of a reach. Perhaps if you date philosophy’s origins to the Utilitarians, you may be able to make a case for your locution. If, however, you admit that the discipline’s roots extend back anything from several decades to several millennia before Bentham and his crowd, the naturalistic fallacy gets reclassified as a novelty—one whose instructiveness, utility, or both has by no means been QED’d to general satisfaction. Thus, I think that if you wish others to accept it as a sound basis for debate and discussion, you ought to be offering support more substantial than Razib Khan’s site is capable of providing.
@matthew:
Matthew, do you say that only to Christian European ethnic people? If you are not also saying that to Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, Japanese and, most of all, your fellow Jews, isn’t that hypocrisy? What people are more tribal than Jews?
You’ve come to this site before and argued that Christian heritage European ethnic people don’t exist as an ethnic group or as a people. Many Jews are now arguing that the Palestinian people don’t exist (and of course their arguments have an agenda — they want the Palestinians’ land). Isn’t that the same thing you are doing here, arguing that Christian heritage European ethnic people don’t exist as a way to advance your own agenda? I doubt you ever argue that Jewish people don’t exist or that you believe that Jews are not very tribal.
For the record, I’m Jewish ethnically but am puzzled why we jews are working so assiduously to destroy Christian European ethnic values, culture, religion and very existence of European ethnic people. But that Jews as a group are working for this, however consciously, to me is self-evident.
@The Admiral On Horseback: “I want scientists to start acting like scientists.” At the risk of stating the obvious, you here encapsulate one of the genuinely fundamental problems of modernity: the absolutization of the sciences and the virtual deification of their practitioners both by themselves and by those enchanted or, better, bewitched by them.
Please consider yourself applauded for defending the full use of science, as that term is rightly understood. Pace at least your principal antagonist on this thread, however, the larger problem, whether one is speaking in terms of rhetorical or practical effect, is not science itself and its use but scientific overreach—the arrogating to scientists and their virtually undisciplined disciplines an authority and a capacity for problem solving that as a consequence of their very nature they simply lack.
If you believe the Trivers, Pinker and Martin Nowak brand of evolutionary thinking all we have to do is ignore our evolved tendencies to fight our corner and internalize a maladaptive ideology that tells us: ‘Behave in benevolent and unconditionally trusting way; then everything will turn out OK, but never be benevolent towards others because they are white (anyone who does is the lowest of the low); only non whites can be legitimately benevolent to their own kind’.
This is a TRULY great article! I was literally floored when I read Salter–for much the same reasons Dr. MacDonald mentions him in this article! The AUDACITY of banishing a whole division, no the KEYSTONE of modern knowledge in human population information and evolutionary biology — it boggles the mind! Some races build cathedrals and science, some build monuments to murder, some tear down greatness, some build great walls, and some build great engines of destruction. We all know which is which. Human races are different psychological species — different superorganisms if you will. LOVED this comment:
“Very insightful commentary, Kevin. The delusional, make believe, manipulated Anglo-Western world that we inhabit is what comes to mind when reading an article like yours. Jewry and their minions have riddled the Western intellectual and cultural edifice with such toxic, destructive and subversive memes, that the structure of White-Western Civilization is literally collapsing before our very eyes.”
Yes, I am in at least as much awe as looking at the pyramids or the great wall when I see the massive edifices of deception and destruction built by Jews over the milennia.
This article by Dr. MacDonald reminds me again why his books so amazed me and so changed my life forever!
@Hans: Good to see your byline again, Hans. Happy New Year.
If, however, you are correct in characterizing Bloom as “under fire” in the NBC piece, it is not because the network is pointing the weapon. In giving a full five or six minutes of network airtime to this typical Jewish scoundrel, they probably increased his marketability in the groves of academe and guaranteed him a substantial “end-of-year” (formerly Christmas) bonus to compensate him and his horribly put-upon wife for being victimized by practitioners of the Oldest Hate. Besides, as we both know, were, say, David Irving to issue a statement describing Bloom as a Christophobe, NBC would lead the charge for Irving’s prosecution and indefinite imprisonment.
I never watch Charlie Rose or any of the soi-disant news programs that air on Sundays, but I am willing to bet that Bloom will soon get a featured guest spot on one or more of them, if he hasn’t already done so. I’d be grateful if you or someone else would enlighten me if/when it happens.
@thm: Did I not say everybody. Can you not read?
@matthew:
“Individuals have interests and desires. They’re not obligated to do things that just happen to increase the frequency of any genes that they happen to possess. ”
As a White person, my individual interests have greater chances of being realized in a country populated by other Whites, not by non-Whites.
“That’s the premise of the enlightenment that KMac purports to value so highly.”
The purpose of the Enlightenment was to separate superstition from reason. That’s precisely what people like Frank Salter and J. Phillipe Rushton are doing today.
@Pierre de Craon:
Pierre. Do you read dictionaries for a living? I ask because you have an incredible ability to use a lot of big words to concoct up paragraphs of meaningless, self-aggrandizing word salad. Yes, I’d say most serious Philosophy was done by the Greeks, then it stopped for about 1500 years under an absurd Judeo-Christian slumber, and was only awakened during the Enlightenment. It was this Enlightenment which situated us as natural beings in the universe, gave the founders of the United States the principles that allowed for the constitution, and, to this day, allows us to explain our behavior in evolutionary terms (although not without attack from various religions). If you and Kevin don’t appreciate the Enlightenment, it seems quite obvious to me that you are engaging in a particularly egregious form of bad faith.
@thm: THM. All people are invented, thats the whole point.
By the way, Bloom wrote a book excoriating orthodox Jews in Iowa, but I figure you all will just ignore it. http://www.amazon.com/Postville-Clash-Cultures-Heartland-America/dp/0156013363/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
@matthew:
I did read that you said “everyone” but perhaps wrongly inferred that “everyone” referred to the posters on this site rather than people of other ethnic groups as well..
@thm: No. I meant everyone, like I said. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Jews, Blacks etc.
@matthew:
Why is it that people who claim this are usually addressing the message to (non-Jewish) White people who are trying to defend their values, work for their group cohesion etc., but you rarely hear this message addressed to Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, Jews or any other ethnic group looking out for their collective interests than Christian European ethnic people. etc.
@matthew: Thank you for taking a full paragraph to confirm that you’re quite as smug as I took you for.
@thm: Dude I don’t know why you hear it that direction so often. I’ve heard people say Malcolm X, La Raza are racist all the time. Anyway, it’s all besides the point. If you want to argue for restrictive immigration laws, and I think you (we) should, just do so with statistics. Immigrant rape in Sweden, Hispanic Poverty and crime here. The evolutionary argument doesn’t work, as I’ve said, because its based on the naturalistic fallacy.
The problem, as I see it, is reading too much into simplistic things.
@matthew – Are all groups made up? If they are, they are not homogenous. Pygmies are Black, but are considered animals and eaten by other tribes. Fillipinos are Asian, but don’t like most other Asians. Poles and Germans are white, but don’t like each other.
The long and short of it is this: without external influences telling them to do otherwise, most people prefer to be with others like themselves.
I am white and proud of it. I think whites are the greatest, generally, and my heritage from two Northern European countries specifically. Therefore, I am labelled a racist.
If I were a Hottentot, I would think blacks are the greatest generally, and Hottentots specifically. Therefore I would be labelled culturally aware of myself.
Get past the labels, whether they be left, right, white nationalist, racist or whatever, and stick to the KISS method: Keep It Simple Stupid. Humans are animals. I prefer to be with people like me. That is natural law and natural selection. Constructed multiculturalism is the antithesis of this. The white re-claimers of Canada and the US first fought the Indians, then put them on reservations. Why? To keep them separate. Some say it was more humane than slaughtering them the way they slaughtered the whites that were here 14,000 years ago.
There are 3 different types of Zebra, but they stay in their own herds and don’t breed with each other. Likewise Cedar and Bohemian Waxwings keep to their own flocks and don’t breed with each. Bobcats and cougars: both cats, similar habitat but keep separate. Brown bears and black bears: same thing.
How do scientists or the likes of Trivers explain that? They can’t. That is why their postulations are bankrupt. Races exist and tribes exist, and the sun does not rise in the west.
@Pierre de Craon:
Pierre, I should have been more clear. Under fire from many Iowa whites. Always great to read your comments. Happy New Year!
COMMENT ON “THE COLLAPSE” ISSUE
At the group level our current situation is charactized by us being a dysfunctional incoherent chaotic and pinned down entity, and our enemies as highly internally coherent and structured, and amazingly mobilzed and organized.
Therefore, even if there was a collapse coming, it would be incredibly naieve to think that they somehow would not know about that, and have it built into their plans.
In fact, we have to assume that not only is a ‘collapse’ actively sought by them, but that the concept of collapse – for them – is highly particular with certain actively aimed for characteristics.
It is for these reasons that I would suggest that we really should not be fooling ourselves that a collapse will work in our favour. That would be terribly comforting, but terribly unrealistic.
But we must all remember that as we stand here now…together…a family in the truest sense. We the few. The woken-up people. No matter how bleak it sometimes looks, from the perspective of our descendents occupying one of the futures we desperately want to prevent, we are standing there back in the times when it was still possible to turn the situation around.
We are back there in those days of possibility. We are when there was still a good 50 years to turn the situation around and save our people from something truly awful and final.
We owe it to them…those people in that awful possible future who are looking back at us for help…we owe it them to keep it real and keep facing the realities. One of those realities is that the collapse will be coming by specific design, and by that design it will not be good at all for us.
So stop looking to the collapse. Stop dreaming. Even if as things stand we are all feeling hopelessly lost at sea….we are still better to be there in that sea lost where we are at least still real.
@Less IQ than a Jew: Interesting …I think it might be more correct to say Judaism than Jew . Its this philosophy and tribalism that makes them so destructive . Judaism and the tribe train their people to be paranoid proud aggressive exploiters . I don’t think it is a such a large evolutionary genetic factor though the intelligence is very handy for a devious program .
As epigenetic is explored I think it will be found that this has a much larger factor in tuning peoples psychology. This together with being brought up in an environment of paranoia and victimisation produces this self deceptive defensive psychology .I don’t deny that their isn’t a evolutionary selective factor , I just think it is a lot less than KMac believes .High intelligence produces cunning because it offers the owner the easy possibility to exploit that facility .A lier has to have a good memory as they say .It is a human quality to self device (and Christians are remarkable good at it ) , and it is just a mater for the individual if they will hold to the centre and judge themselves reflectively as they judge the world around them. Could anyone really enjoy sex if they didn’t let go and ignore the reality of the act ?
One of the great problem the West faces in combating the pernicious effects of Judaism is this in-group culture that comes as a part of their Religious organisation . They really do set up as a colony and so the colony cheers when its members do well , even if it is at great expense to the host . (which they self deceptively believe they are as the same) . This I think also contributes to their cockiness and chutzpah as they call it . They know that the Tribe protects and promotes that behaviour as their members go out scouting for resources and brainwashing the Gentiles to manipulated them. The Holyhoax has been very useful in attacking and dismantling the West , which I think is its primary aim. Zionists & Talmudists .
I have known may Jews on and off am most pretty nice chaps . Though they are of a different generation , and the Zionist brainwash is I suspect producing a very obnoxious New Jew —Violent & Righteous & Tyrannous .
@wattylersrevolt: Is the colourful language to describe their under qualification or culture/personality/personal hygiene problems :-) ?
I went into a Apple Tech shop a while ago and started dealing with an Indian who didn’t know what was going on . When I asked him if he had any qualifications , he pointed to a Certificate framed on the wall . I went to an Indian medico recently with a foot problem and I had the same problem .Her inability to deal with the logical order of the malady .Waisted time and money ( 2 visits) , so I took the logical action and solved the problem myself !
It is usually a relief to get a white man/woman on the end of the phone when dealing with technical matters . A bit like seeing a white man in the cockpit of the plane one is boarding : confidence rises . I hope I haven’t just cursed my next flight .
How can Whites who disbelieve Darwin’s theory of evolution use evolutionary thinking for their own defense? Do White racists need White racist slogans based upon ethnonationalism?
1) Anti-racism is anti-White. White GeNOcide. (JUST JOKING it’s part of a redneck TV series)
2) MSM media won’t tell us the criminal race. This is what keeps Whites in their place. (JUST JOKING it’s part of a redneck TV series)
3) Whitey build it. Darkie kill and eat it. (POLITICAL INCORRECTNESS FOREVER)
4) Cuba sî, Yankee no. Confederacy see, Yankee no. (NO JOKE Yankee bastard)
5) Don’t ban the Confederate flag. Ban the Union Flag! (Kill a Yankee for Christ.)
6) Kill a Yankee and a liberal Jew judge for Christ. (HATE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH)
7) Blind and castrate a Yankee and a liberal Jew if you know what’s good for you. (YUK YUK JUST JOKING)
8) The Yankee flag castrates the Confederate man. The black man is the pimp, the Jew is the owner, and the Yankee is the cause. (Rednecks can’t spell but they can kill.)
9) The Conferacy isn’t dead but Yankees and liberal Jews will be. (F*** Yankees and the almighty Yankee dollar.)
10) The black is a cannibal but Yankees and liberal Jews are the real enemies. (JUST JOKING???)
11) The Jew who wants to murder black people is your friend, but the liberal Jew is your enemy. The White liberal is a ZOGling who must die. (JUST JOKING maybe)
12) Go deer hunting so you can learn to kill a Yankee.
13) Conspiracy theory: Jew MSM, ZOG, J. Edgar Hoover, JFK assassination. U S. S. Liberty, 9/11, Holocaust)
14) Three cheers for Mulatto America and the U.S. Post Office,
15) Make us White racists slogans and spread them if you want the White European races to survive.
16) Yankees looted during the War Between the States and now blacks are doing it.
17) The ZOG proves that rednecks are stupid.
18) White Southern men should join the army so that they can forcibly integrate White public schools and help black people kill White people.
19) Is this America or ZOGling territory?
20) The Confederate flag isn’t racist … or is it? (THINK AGAIN WHITE MAN)
Should White racist slogans be spray painted everywhere and written everywhere on bathroom walls?
I don’t see how any form of State institutional welfare can be anything but dysgenic. The institutional framework runs with a huge informational deficit compared to informal welfare, which has a flexible mix of rigour and altruism. You see this in the Third World all the time. People have little time for working-age, apparently hale male beggars (ignored at best); only the deserving poor receive alms.
Institutionalized welfare has the downside of not knowing its clientele. Down on luck, or irredeemable sloth? It’s more likely that the non-State mechanism will differentiate the between the two with greater accuracy on account of its informal and personal nature (grifters are more able to do their best/worst when their marks don’t know them).
The eugenic winnowing process should continue even on an intergroup level, tempered by altruism. My 2¢.
@The Admiral On Horseback:
In addition to your point, acknowledgement of intergroup differences in median mental ability may also open up a discussion on other less tractable but equally significant traits like openness and empathy, traits, which as I understand it, KM believes are part of our evolutionary legacy. I think that would also help to address wattylersrevolt’s concerns about what is not captured by IQ alone.
@ Matthew – January 3, 2012 – 6:02 pm: Bloom did not write “a book excoriating orthodox Jews in Iowa”. “Postville” is a bit of fluff with just enough edge to give the warm fuzzies to adventurous left-heads who might gently thrill at Bloom, the heroic iconoclast. The book is as ingratiatingly self intrested as his Atlantic article is arrogantly calculated to advance the socio-political agenda of his tribe, at the expense of the good people that have hosted him and his family for twenty years. The article and the television interview that followed are obvious set-ups.
” they can persuade presidents that a war against Iraq would be easily won, would remove a dangerous enemy of the United States, and would democratize the entire Arab world yearning for democracy and freedom. The big difference from the environments we evolved in is that now even in-your-face deception can be effectively covered up because of ethnic influence on the media and the political process. Successful ethnic strategies thus utilize an entirely different set of mechanisms for deception than were available in the Pleistocene.”
Kevin MacDonald
—-Just who were fooled above and by whom ?????? —
The orchestrated invasion of Iraq triumphed because well placed neocon Zionist Jews blatantly but subtly came out en masse with obvious lies to promote the “war” & a scared timid Goyim were silenced as usual with the threat of Antisemitism or even the terror threat of being thinly-veiled borderline antisemitic etc.
These Jews orchestrated the Goyim to bring a holocaust to Iraq & almost 95% of Americans are in denial.
BTW — amongst the neocon strategy to “war on Iraq” were the books of Bernard Lewis and Nathan Sharansky .
Sharansky’s well promoted book made its way to G.W.Bush , Cheney , Condi Rice , Tony Blair & EVERYONE who wanted to be on the right side of the line with the ”The Bush Plan”.
Sharansky & Lewis the “intelectual” Zionist Israeli ”salesmen” played G.W.Bush “like a violin” when invited to the White House.
So much so that just after G.W.Bush’s Rose Garden Speech before the Iraq “War” Richard Perle called Sharansky in Israel to tell him that Bush was ” speaking Sharansky word for word out of Sharansky’s book !!!!
No Goyim or anybody was to disagree as ALL were clients of AIPAC .
For hawkish Zionists Sharansky & Lewis et al a “War” on Iraq was always the Israeli agenda (P.N.A.C) to firmly dominate the Middle East and a future “War” on Iran.
http://nowarforisrael.com/
The message was subtly conveyed to Evangelical G.W.Bush that he could be the “leader” as in the Biblical Gog MayGog prophesy.
The God people & their Creationism were fooled once again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7VTdzuY7Y
@Mickey Meadows:
How? Do we need a White Racist Survival Manual with wide appeal? Mulatto/mestizo/Eurasian America and Moslem Europe would be hellish cesspools. How can Whites be made to understand the Jew trickery and the falsity of genetic egalitarianism? I suggest that White racists vote on 10 slogans, 10 videos, 10 websites and 10 books that best explain the menace.
Anti-racism is anti-White. White GeNOcide.
Open borders kill White men and rape White women.
Rape by immigrants. Want some more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ6WLB9oRUk AIPAC – The Israeli Lobby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYNIqwdFzY Dr. Alan Sabrosky on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgt2J54iZOQ Unless you are Jewish, you are nobody in Hollywood
http://www.defraudingamerica.com/author_bio.html Background of Rodney Stich
http://amren.com/features/200807wikipedia.html Wikipedia on Race
http://www.namebase.org/sources/ZH.html The Washington Pay-Off
Anti-racism is anti-White. White GeNOcide. (FIND SLOGANS LIKE THIS AND SPREAD THEM.)
A White racist leader might be killed, defeated or discredited, but a White racist religion can last until all White European people are exterminated. Do Christians need a tough, White racist Christianity based upon local ethnonationalism? Many jihadists demand ‘pure and tough’ Islam that demands insults against Islam be punished by death.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/04/jihadist-group-declares-war-on-france-for-being-hostile-to-islam Jihadist Group Declares War on France for Being ‘Hostile to Islam’
http://sheikyermami.com/2011/04/15/jihad-jihad-jihad Jihad, Jihad, Jihad!
Note that Robert Spencer is a neocon (in reference to Jihad, Jihad, Jihad!).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spencer_(author)
Wikipedia is a ZOG propaganda tool for both ZOG liberalism and ZOG neocon conservatism. Everything you see, hear or read might be part of the ZOG propaganda machine with cultural Marxism, racially egalitarian libertarianism and international capitalism.
Are White Christians economically punished if they speak out against ZOG political correctness? What is the Holohoax equation? White self-preservation = racial realist = ignorant racial bigot = vicious racist = neo-Nazi = Dr. Mengele = child murderer and out-of-control psychopath. Jews care about: 1) themselves, their families and their own material well-being, 2) their own ethnic group, 3) propaganda and support for Israel, and 4) propaganda and support for the Holohoax hammer – all of this at the expense of White Christians. Jews use the Holohoax hammer to spread and maintain ZOG liberalism, ZOG neocon conservatism and ZOG control of media, finance and academe. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are ZOGlings of international capitalism. Are international capitalism and internationalism socialism now destroying all White European peoples? What should White racists do? What do White racists need? Do White racists need strong family values, local ethnic purity and supremacy, ethnic loyalty and ethnostates based upon ethnic chauvinism and racial realism?
Are the following 2 things fairly obvious?
1) White families require religion in some form.
2) White Christians are the base for recruitment into White racism.
Should White racists promote a propaganda religion consisting of some form of Christianity with explicit White racism?
Attila the Hun White Racist Christianity consists of two basic principles and a catechism.
1) The triumph of Christianity requires the preservation of the White European races.
2) Each White European race should have its own Attila the Hun White Racist Church of Christianity.
Question: Who is the greatest man who has ever lived?
Answer: Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Question: Who is the second greatest man who has ever lived?
Answer: Attila the Hun, who is the greatest ancestor of the Second Coming of Christ.
This propaganda message would be taught to children and would be the basis for a new, more aggressive Christianity suited to White racist goals. Is the current form of Christianity a poor basis for White survival? Can White racists develop new forms of Christianity that incorporate explicit White racism?
Excellent article.
“The complexity of organisms, Trivers suggests, stems at least in part from a primordial arms race between deceit and deceit-detection. “
This makes me wonder about the potentially unique genetic path that supporters of sites like TOO have chosen for their (our) own descendents. For thousands of years, geography largely determined our pool. Then a Eurocentric social order that openly valued the traits of European Christians. Those are gone now.
It’s odd to think that I’m likely the first in my genetic line who’s had to tell his young children not to marry black people when they grow up, despite what the media or society says or suggests. This form of deceit detection (as it pertains to the media or a “post racial” society) may be unique among white advocates at some point in the future.
And all the King’s horses and all the King’s men…
Illegal Alien Stays Free in CA Hospital 1 Year; 12 Surgeries…
http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/01/03/2669593/man-will-leave-fresno-hospital.html
@JW: “There is something seriously wrong with our perception of ourselves, and we need to take a good look at all the elements of white identity and white genetic interests from a white centric point of view. ”
Good idea…
You go first…
Fill us in on the practical ways we can implement the changes you believe we need to make to correct our slide into irrelevance. Because I don’t have a clue where to start in a world where every white person I know still thinks votes are counted in America.
@Curmudgeon:”How do scientists or the likes of Trivers explain that? They can’t. That is why their postulations are bankrupt. Races exist and tribes exist, and the sun does not rise in the west. ”
Fine post!
I’ve saved it.
“What is remarkable about these developments is that they have completely failed to challenge the dominance of elite consensus”
One aspect of the research into liberal and conservative personalities is part of the liberal one involves a craving for novelty. Bait should be selected on that basis.
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“What is a white ethnic interest? Why does it exist now, when before Whites were fighting against one another for hundred of years.”
When white people as a whole weren’t facing an attempt at collective genocide they had French, German, Italian etc, ethnic interests. Now white people are facing an attempt at their collective genocide there is an obvious collective white interest.
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“Everyone should stop acting so damn tribal. That’s the premise of the enlightenment that KMac purports to value so highly.”
The Jews are the most tribal so tell them.
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“Therefore, even if there was a collapse coming, it would be incredibly naieve to think that they somehow would not know about that, and have it built into their plans.”
No. Their cohesion as a tribe is based on the lie they tell themselves about being a persecuted minority. They can’t let go of that lie or their main competitive advantage unravels. This self-deception requires them to cover up their true history and create a fake one. Although they’ve done this dozens of times throughout their history it has to come as a surprise each time or there wouldn’t be a next time. If they saw themselves as they really are – a malignant nomadic parasite that travels to a host nation or civilization, eats it away from within until it collapses and then moves on to the next victim – the cohesion that makes it all possible would fade.
Anyway the collapse is already here – the similarity with the Soviet Union is that the centrifugal forces are now too weak to hold America together, the difference with the Soviet Union is there are no pre-existing constituent nations acting as a centripetal force to trigger the breakup – but they can’t be expecting it without admitting to themselves they caused it.
“centripetal”, no???
Less IQ than a Jew —January 3, 2012 – 1:38 pm
@Rehmat: What percentage of Moslems believe that the Jews are behind 9/11?
Less IQ ; What percentage of Jews believe that the Jews are behind 9/11?
One here maybe ????
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/dr-alan-sabrosky-the-us-military-knows-israel-did-911-it-was-a-mossad-operation/
@Mathew Neville: Thank you for posting this video. It will serve to widen awareness that Stephen Hawking, a media creation if ever there was one, is a self-important parrot of the conventional wisdom.