TOQLive, Prof. Drew Fraser, with James Edwards and Kevin MacDonald, July 28

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  1. James Bowery
    James Bowery says:

    To repeat the question I posed during the broadcast:

    “What does the story of Jesus tell us about the relationship between individual integrity and group integrity in terms of morality?”

    Perhaps my failure to address it, specifically, to Prof. Fraser was the reason my question went unaddressed. It is, however, central to the question of Christianity’s role among individualistic peoples of high moral character.

  2. milan
    milan says:

    Augustine’s City of God

    Eschatology is always the problem isn’t it? Whether for Augustine and his City of God or for us today which one would think would be a great deal easier given the computer and high tech which is a God send really. We can study the scriptures in ways that the early Church Fathers never could or for that matter any who followed in their train. Shockingly even today we are still largely in the dark about interpretation which is just so unbelievable and scandalous really. this especially is the case surrounding Gog and Magog of Ezekiel 38 and 39 which practically everyone has got wrong! Just listening to this entire speech makes me sad and angry really.

    In scripture you will find these words ‘here is the mind that has wisdom’ Revelation 17:9-11 and Revelation 13:18

    It is the only place in the entire bible where we are told what is truly important and what to be on the lookout for. It’s talking politics here and about a coming economic system which will treat the entire human race as slaves. worse than slaves actually. It’s talking about a coming king who will rule over the world as god. No one I don’t think anyway understood it more than Dostoevsky who wrote

    “Why hast though come to hinder us? We are working not with Thee but with him {Satan}…We took from him what Thou didst reject with scorn, the last gift he offered Thee, showing you all the kingdoms of the earth. We took from him Rome and the sword of Caesar, and proclaimed ourselves sole rulers of the earth…We shall triumph and shall be Caesar’s, and then we shall plan the universal happiness of man… Hadst though accepted the last counsel of the mighty spirit {Satan}, Thou wouldst have accomplished all that man seeks on earth -that is, someone to worship…Who can rule men if not he who holds their conscience and their bread in their hands?”

    This is the name of the game and who desires this to be fulfilled and is currently looking for their promised messiah? You got it and if technology isn’t truly the last curtain to go up.

    Fulfilling the above by Dostoevsky would be relatively quite easy with our high tech and my guess is shortly enough as the financial world goes into collapse the clarion call for everyone to be chipped with a mark on either their right hand or forehead will be pushed upon all.

    As for this coming king Jesus Christ himself refereed to it all as the Abomination of Desolation.

    now if you Dr. Fraser didn’t come across this in that bible college seminary you attended well your missing out on some very important and vital information and I haven’t even begun to talk about climate change which is not the work of industrial pollution. that’s just another lie from our glorious universities.

    As for multi-culturalism? Well, given the above I would argue multi-culturalism is the last thing anyone really needs to be worried about. I don’t know how many times including the loss of a doctor I have heard and seen people wanting to move to Australia? Australia must truly be a land of great opportunity maybe even flowing with milk and honey that everyone and their dog wants to move there and the government is more than happy to oblige. What’s up and should I join you all for a taste of the better life? I even hear that New Zealand is the new world safe zone? Is this true? lol

  3. milan
    milan says:

    Wow, just came across these astounding headlines:

    China says its Social Credit System has ‘Restored Morality’ by blacklisting over 13 million people

    Yep, when you can’t convince people of their sin nature as God wishes to do thereby freeing us from the judgment due upon us which was paid for by his Son Christ Jesus a human government is going to do it politically by way of controlling your bread and conscience with computer tech! Nice EH! Is it any wonder God forbids any from receiving this under the penalty of eternal judgment. One of only 2 the unpardonable sins.

    Next up looky here Australia! Australia is Adopting China’s Surveillance and Tracking System to Spy on its Citizens

    how long before mister global arrives and you know what I have a sinking feeling about all of this in that imagine someone doing the unthinkable that is wealth confiscation and then redistribution? Will there be a robin hood moment which will solidify this Mr. Global as some kind of savior of the world especially in the eyes of the poor but to be a part of its glorious future you will need to be stamped or chipped. Hey, its tech nothing to worry about its 21 st Century folks get with it! Yeah, how quickly ones wonders will the slaves of the 21 Century flock to him to get back at the wealthy who enjoy the fruit of their labour.

    Law verses Grace will then become glaringly real and His words love thy neighbour as thyself will burn in the conscience. By then however freedom will be lost and then comes the earthquake. An earthquake like the one that hit Jerusalem in 363 AD which is the actual date of the fall of Jerusalem and not AD70.

    “The stones were piled high and ready. Costly wood had been purchased. The necessary metal was at hand. The Jews of Jerusalem were rejoicing. Tomorrow—May 20, 363 A.D.—the rebuilding of the Temple would begin! Suddenly, and without warning, at the third hour of the night… the streets of Jerusalem trembled and buckled, crushing two hundred years of hope in a pile of dust. No longer would there be any possibility of rebuilding the Temple.”

    That earthquake as anyone in the Orthodox Christian world will tell you was an act of Divine Judgment, it’s self evident really.
    An earthquake that Divine Communication wise spells out what is forthcoming in the book of Revelation that in the future there will be another but it will be global.

    Eschatology is something we should be thankful for.

    “We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 2 Peter 1:19-21

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