Southern Nationalism and White Nationalism

Is Southern Nationalism the same thing as White Nationalism? The short answer is yes and no. This vexing topic is rarely if ever addressed, and the Southern cause is consequently reduced to a myopic, quaint subsidiary of a larger quest for a White ethnostate. Many racially conscious young Southrons, most of whom embrace their Southern identity, reflexively refer to themselves as White Nationalists. This is at least partially because they see their own Southern identity as lesser than and subordinate to their White identity. If Southern Nationalism is ever to capture a critical mass of these young men, the already racially awakened, then it is incumbent upon us to explain why, far from being a narrow, curious sect of White Nationalism, Southern Nationalism is an entirely different beast.

In the first place, we must acknowledge that the South is White. When we speak of the South, we speak of the White South. This is not debatable. It is simply a fact, one which is so self-evident that it is often taken for granted. In this respect, it can unequivocally be stated that Southern Nationalism is necessarily White Nationalism, but that White Nationalism is not necessarily—and is indeed often directly at odds with—Southern Nationalism. We are White and proud of it, but our racial identity does not, in and of itself, provide us with the nourishing fire which impels us forward. Our racial identity is a component of our primary, Southern, identity.

Our Christian identity is another component of our Southern identity. When we speak of the South, we not only mean the White South. We mean the White, Christian, South. Dixie is God’s Country, and we are God’s people—perhaps not His only people, but His people indeed. In this respect, one could state that Southern Nationalism is necessarily Christian Nationalism, but that, of course, Christian Nationalism is not Southern Nationalism. Here, we have our first major divergence from White Nationalism. Unfortunately, White Nationalism is afflicted with a deep antipathy for Christianity. To be sure, there is not much if anything about contemporary organized Christianity to recommend or endear itself to Rightists of any stripe. Jesus Christ Himself would abhor much of what today passes for “Christianity.” The subversion of Christianity, however pervasive, still cannot change the Word of God. Indeed, the grass withereth, the flower fadeth, but the word of our God shall stand forever.

Large numbers of White Nationalists, perhaps even constituting a majority, have no interest in reading or otherwise learning this truth. Instead, they nonsensically slander Christianity as “Jewish,” which would be news to the Jews who ordered the murder of Christ, the millennia of subsequent Jews who made and still make the annihilation of Christianity their highest mission, and the millennia of Christians who did their best to protect their people from Jewish corrosion. They create absurd cults, adopt pagan practices centuries removed from an idealized, obscure pre-Christian past, or rely on cold, dispassionate scientism. While we do not view these misguided, lost souls as our enemies, nor can we see them as our allies. We do not share any semblance of a common vision or mission with non-Christians.

Another major point of divergence for Southern Nationalists is that our cause is particular, while that of White Nationalists is abstract. Our goal, distilled to its purest, most essential form, is a free, independent Dixie, which one could see as a sort of reconstituted Confederate States of America. Our cause is rooted in one particular place—the South—and one particular people—White, Christian Southrons. Ours is an uncompromising and practically defined vision, one which is orders of magnitude more feasible than that of the inherently vague White Nationalist ethnostate. For example, where should such a state be? Even this simple question proves unanswerable with any degree of satisfaction by any great number of self-identified White Nationalists.

Furthermore, our identity as Southern is specific, corresponding to a real, historically defined, culturally, linguistically, and politically distinct population. While anti-White Leftists and egalitarian “colorblind” civic nationalists often make the ridiculous claim that White people do not exist (i.e., “I’m not White, I’m Italian”), while in the next breath uttering genocidal statements about those same White people whom they claim do not exist, there is a kernel of truth to the challenge.

Pan-European unity is a fiction; White people generally do not define their identities on purely racial grounds, but rather by their nationality. Far from joining hands as racial kinsmen, the kingdoms and then the nation-states of Europe have engaged in perpetual warfare against each other. When White men refer to themselves as such, their nationality subordinated to their race, it is typically limited to situations of oppositional ethnogenesis, where an external racial threat is involved—such as Amerindians, blacks, etc. And yet, even then, these expressions of White identity are often still expressions of national identity, the nation itself understood to consist of White people, rather than a conceptually White nation.

It is certainly true that, for all intents and purposes, America was intended to be and did function as a White nation for most of its history. Until the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act, America boasted a 90% White supermajority and a small black minority, with other racial groups demographically insignificant—though not politically insignificant, in the case of America’s numerically infinitesimal but politically dominant Jewish minority. But, while American men always saw themselves and referred to themselves as White, it is only after the triumvirate of desegregation, the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the 1965 Immigration Act that what we now call White Nationalism began to emerge.

Thus, before the middle of the twentieth century, White identity was merely a component of, and thus subordinate to, American identity. But American nationalism itself was an invention of war propaganda, most clearly traceable in its contemporary iteration to the bloodthirsty tyrant Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. Without delving too deeply into the historical thicket, however, it will suffice to say that White Nationalism is a thoroughly modern creation.

Southern Nationalism, by contrast, is premised upon a Southern identity forged by centuries of blood, fire, and siege. Southern identity predates any American identity, and, while Southern men did see themselves and refer to themselves as White, their sectional identity as Southerners was always first. This identity was so deeply ingrained in the Southern psyche that it survived well after desegregation. Indeed, even today, large numbers of Southerners, perhaps even constituting a majority, still see themselves as Southern, although this has become subordinated both to American and partisan Republican identities. Southern Nationalism per se emerged in the antebellum period, mere decades before the War for Southern Independence, primarily in response to Northern rhetorical political vitriol and economic aggression. But its antecedent, Southern sectionalism, predated even the American War of Independence.

While Southern Nationalism and White Nationalism both emerged in response to external pressures, the nature of these pressures were and are of a fundamentally different character.

At the outset, we must address the Jewish Question. Without a solution to this question, there can be no solution to any question. While Jewish influence dominates our world, the security of our existence and the future of our children will always remain in danger. Make no mistake: Jews are the avowed enemies of the White race. At the bottom of nearly every single ill which afflicts Whites as a people, you will find a cabal of Jews. Every aspect of White Genocide is Jewish, from top to bottom. Jews do control every center of institutional power in the whilom West. Jews—the Synagogue of Satan—are the root of much of the evil in our world.

Their goal is the extinction of the White race, of all that is good, pure, and holy on this earth. Their goal is to profane the sacred. The sicker, the filthier, the fouler, the better. Nonwhites, including American Blacks and the constellation of “refugees” and “migrants” from Africa, Asia, the Middle East, and Central and South America, are the primary shock troops utilized by the Jews in their war against Whites. Insofar as Jews and their non-White pets constitute the enemies of the White race, so too are they the enemies of the Southern people, who, again, are White.

But this is not the end of the story for Southern Nationalists. No, the Southern people have an additional enemy, one who has inflicted far greater material and psychic damage upon Dixie than the Jews or their puppets ever have: the Yankees. Northern Whites have been, and arguably still are, our most pernicious foes. While it is true that all Whites are under attack from a truly genocidal force, Southrons face a deeper hatred than any other White ethnic group—save perhaps Russians—including from fellow Whites. Indeed, many prominent White Nationalists today heap scorn upon the South and our Confederate heritage.

Before the Jews ever worked to destroy the South, the Yankees literally put Dixie to the torch and the sword in the War for Southern Independence and then enslaved her in the most humiliating fashion conceivable during Reconstruction. Federal soldiers committed atrocities against Southern civilians at an unprecedented scale, the first real example of total warfare waged by a nominally civilized power. The next example would be the Anglo-Boer War, to which historians have devoted far more sympathy.

After the Yanks razed and materially annihilated the South, they subjected her to a decade of negro domination, during which the same White Northerners squeezed every last drop of blood from the already despoiled Southern turnip. The descendants of these Carpetbaggers wreak the same havoc across the South today, occupying our hometowns and our wildernesses, emanating as locusts from the coasts they have already destroyed in order to devour our birthrights in a grand scheme of physical, economic, political, and cultural dispossession.

What is now happening to the White race writ large—genocide—was initiated in the South long ago. In other words, even leaving aside the fact that our first and worst tormentors were White Northerners, the Jews and their tools targeted the South for destruction first. We were the canaries in the coalmine. Nobody cared. Indeed, many Whites—including self-identified “patriotic, conservative” Whites—enthusiastically cheered, participated in, and spearheaded the defenestration of Dixie. Similarly, our forebears saw what the United States Government was becoming, the monster that the Federal Leviathan was transforming into, more than a century before the contemporary Right did. Again, nobody cared.

Here, we come to another major point of divergence. Generally speaking, White Nationalists envision a single ethnostate or multiple ethnostates functioning as a White homeland, along the lines of: (1) some reclamation of the entire landmass of the United States of America as the nominally singular polity it now purports to be; or (2) a combination of balkanized ethnostates operating as a loose confederacy. Complicating this picture is the attachment of some American White Nationalist intellectuals to the concept of a pan-European supranational project, something akin to a racially conscious European Union.

Southern Nationalists start from the premise that the United States of America as a political unit is dead, and has been since 1860. The quintessentially American spirit that animated our ancestors in 1776 and 1861 was slaughtered on the battlefield in 1865. We do not put “America” first, because America does not exist. We are Dixie first. Even if it were feasible to reclaim the entire landmass of the currently extant United States—and it most certainly is not—we have no desire to do so. We do not give one hoot about the fate of New York, or California, or Illinois, or Ohio, or any other State not represented by the thirteen stars on each of the national flags of the Confederate States of America. While the Southern Nationalist project involves a sort of balkanization of the currently extant United States, the prevailing locations contemplated by White Nationalists for their ethnostate invariably exclude the South. Many White Nationalists have even suggested giving large swathes of the South to negroes.

In Dixie’s land, we’ll take our stand. The South is nonnegotiable. We place no stock in a vague, abstract “homeland” dominated by deracinated Yankees, for our homeland has a single location. Southern identity, although inherently racially defined by White identity, is simultaneously deeper, narrower, and yet more expansive than bare White identity. My own heritage is instructive of the difference between Southern identity and White identity.

I am half-White, half-Indian. My maternal lineage is Scots-Irish. It’s through this side of my ancestry that I am a proud member of both the Sons of the American Revolution and the Sons of Confederate Veterans. My earliest ancestors in this line emigrated to the Colonial South in the mid-to-late seventeenth century, perhaps even as early as Jamestown in 1616.

I have at least two ancestors who served South Carolina in the American War of Independence.

Glass Caston, my fifth-great grandfather, was born in 1732 in Essex County, Virginia, and became a carpenter and wheelwright. In 1754, he bought land in Orange County, North Carolina, where he quickly got involved in local politics, becoming constable in 1756. In 1763, Glass bought land in Craven County, in what is now Lancaster County, South Carolina. In 1765, he was appointed one of the County’s Justices. During our War of Independence, Glass served as Wagon Master for a supply train in Colonel Kershaw’s Regiment, supplying Patriots stationed at Purrysburg, near Savannah. After the War, Glass continued in public service; in 1784, he even ran against General Thomas Sumter, the Fighting Gamecock, for a seat in the State Assembly. He passed away in 1804.

Captain John Blakeney, my sixth-great-grandfather, was also born in 1732, in Mount Blakeney, Limerick County, Ireland. John came to the colonies around 1750, and by the early 1760s had settled in Chesterfield County, South Carolina. He became a substantial landowner and a successful planter. In 1775, he was elected Captain of the local militia. The next year, he received a Captain’s commission from the Provincial Congress and raised a regiment. John and his men were assigned to Colonel Benton’s Regiment, where he served as a Sergeant under the Swamp Fox, General Francis Marion. John passed away in 1832, at the age of 100.

I have at least eight ancestors who served the Confederacy in the War for Southern Independence.

Newman Robinson, my second-great grandfather, was born in 1841. He enlisted in the Confederate Army on April 8, 1861, just a few days before the Battle of Fort Sumter. He served throughout the War in the 5th Regiment of the South Carolina Volunteers, known as the Lancaster Greys. He was discharged from service a full four years after he had enlisted, on April 9, 1865, when General Lee surrendered at Appomattox. He passed away in 1924.

Newman’s father, Phillip, my third-great grandfather, served in the same company with him. Philip, born around 1815, was a plantation overseer. He was probably killed during the War. Newman’s brother, Warren, born in 1842, also served with the Lancaster Greys during the War. He passed away in 1916.

Lewis Rowell, another of my second-great grandfathers, was born in 1846. At age 16, he and his father, Henry, both enlisted in the Confederate Army, serving through the end of the War. At his death on June 15, 1944, at age 98, Lewis was the last surviving veteran of the War for Southern Independence in Lancaster County, South Carolina. On special occasions, like church service, Lewis wore his trademark white homespun suit. His birthday parties were the biggest event in the community each year, always attended by three to five hundred people.

My third-great grandfather, Jeff Ellis, was a Corporal in the 12th Regiment of the South Carolina Infantry. He was wounded at Manassas in 1862, and again the next year at Wilderness. In 1870, he passed away as the result of complications from those wounds.

My paternal line, as you likely surmised from my last name, is North Indian. Unfortunately, I don’t have as detailed knowledge of this side of my lineage. My grandfather, long since passed, was the genealogist of his family, and apparently took this knowledge with him to the grave.

My father came to North Carolina from India in 1984, joining several of his older brothers who had moved here before him. Interestingly, he had been reluctant to come to America.

In India, he had been involved with the RSS, a Hindu nationalist paramilitary organization which serves as the backbone of the Indian Right. The RSS is closely tied to the currently-ruling BJP government.

But his brothers asked him to join them, so join them he did. He waited until 2001 to become a citizen, not wanting to officially sever ties with his homeland. If it weren’t for my mother, he may well have returned to India in the 1980s.

Growing up mixed-race was interesting. In many ways, I had a traditional Southern upbringing. In other ways, I had a cosmopolitan upbringing. My parents loved to travel, and, being an only child, I always went with them. I’ve now visited nearly thirty countries on four continents.

My mom is a Southern Baptist, my dad a Hindu, but I was raised a Southern Baptist. All of my friends were always White. I never learned how to speak Hindi. I never identified as anything other than American. Beginning around junior high and high school, though, I began to experience identity issues.

By “identity issues,” I mean that I suddenly had a hard time fitting in and feeling a sense of belonging; part of this likely stemmed from being an only child, but I suspect that it was also at least partially driven by the fact that I had two cultures, two ancestries within me.

As I began to experience the alienation common to modern adolescence, I rebelled against my Southern roots and my Christianity. In this rebellion, I turned not towards my Indian heritage, but rather towards deracinated urban liberalism. I found my way home again, but I went through Hell to find my way back.

What had started as experimentation in high school developed into full-blown drug and alcohol addiction through most of my years at the University of Chicago. You name the drug, and I’ve almost certainly done it. You wouldn’t believe me if I told you how much liquor I drank on a daily basis, the copious quantities of hard drugs I did almost every night. I am blessed to still be alive. By the Grace of God alone, I overcame my addictions cold turkey. I’ve been fully sober now for four years.

My time at the University of Chicago also coincided with my awakening. Growing up in 90% White Bentonville, Arkansas, I bought the egalitarian hogwash hook, line, and sinker. It wasn’t until I moved to Hyde Park, on the South Side of Chicago, that this veil was pierced. You see, I witnessed racial reality for the first time—this was the first time that I had really had any dealings with blacks in their natural habitat. I also encountered Jews in significant numbers for the first time.

While I noted that there were no Southerners among the students or faculty, I found it strange that such a vast majority of faculty members were Jewish, and that Jews, who make up such a tiny minority of the American population, actually made up the majority of students in many of my courses. I had at least one Jewish roommate for most of my first two years, and I was astounded at how their behavior verified every single negative stereotype I had heard about their race.

My racial awakening also occurred almost simultaneously with the 2016 election. Seeing every single center of institutional power on earth align to destroy the Trump campaign really opened my eyes. Donald Trump was a totally non-ideological, pragmatic civic nationalist whose only real offense was speaking about issues that adversely affect Whites, giving life to the concerns of average White people. I’m under no illusions about Trump or his failed presidency, but his election was epochal; for the first time in many years, Whites began to feel that they had a voice. This was Trump’s crime.

I started systematically re-educating myself. Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique is certainly the book most formative in my understanding of the Jewish Question that I read during this time, but it was Richard Weaver’s The Southern Tradition at Bay and Eugene Genovese’s The Mind of the Master Class, combined with Shelby Foote’s The Civil War, that set my long-dormant Southern blood ablaze. You see, it was not until I understood the truth about the South that I was able to understand the other truths that I have since come to learn.

I could go on—I read literally hundreds of books in a 3-year period, from 2016 to 2019. And I haven’t stopped. The point is that I returned home, both spiritually and physically. I read the entire King James Bible, for the first time in my life. I was saved, and then baptized. I gained a passion for my family history, my Southern ancestry, and joined SAR and SCV. I found my calling, my purpose, the reason for which God placed me on this earth at this time: to protect, fight for, and advance the interests of my people, the Southern people.

I’m not ashamed in the slightest of my Indian ancestry. I love and embrace all of my family, and of course I feel a kinship with India. It is only natural that I do. But I do not situate my identity there, nor do I situate my loyalty there. Though I am mixed-race, I am not mixed-identity. I am not an American, or an Indian. I am a Southron.

To those who believe that our day is done, that our cause is lost, I say: You know what they say about Southerners and Lost Causes. Our forefathers left their homes and their beloved behind, risking everything, laying down their lives and charging so bravely into the mouth of Hell because they knew that if they did not fight, their homeland would be lost, transformed into their worst nightmares.

They gave everything they possessed in order to transmit their inheritance, their Southern birthright, to generations yet unborn. They knew that, if they had stood by, their entire world would end, that the world which they had built for their children would be stolen from them and divvied into the hands of squatters not fit for the blessings of their civilization.

Pickett’s Charge, bloody as it was, should be the image etched in our hearts, the pool from which we draw our fortitude. These Southern heroes, common men only months before, fearlessly stormed an unassailable position, marching headlong into the impenetrable Yankee Leviathan because it was their duty. Union Colonel Frank Haskell described the Confederates thusly:

None on that crest now need be told that the enemy is advancing. Every eye could see his legions, an overwhelming, resistless tide of an ocean of armed men sweeping upon us! …Right on they move, as with one soul, in perfect order, without impediment of ditch, or wall, or stream, over ridge and slope, through orchard, and meadow, and cornfield, magnificent, grim, irresistible.

Let not our enemies need be told that we are advancing, immovable, magnificent, grim, irresistible.

We should also consider Edmund Ruffin, the greatest Fire-Eater of them all, a gentleman who spent most of his adult life laying the discursive groundwork for secession; who, at age 67, fired the very first shot on Fort Sumter from Morris Island. After Lee’s surrender at Appomattox, Ruffin chose to commit suicide rather than submit to Yankee rule, writing his famous last words:

And now, with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will [be] near to my latest breath, I here repeat, and would willingly proclaim, my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule — to all political, social, and business connection with Yankees, and to the perfidious, malignant, and vile Yankee race.

It should go without saying that I am not advocating for Ruffin’s final course of action. But we should embody the principle: that, if we fail, life is not worth living. We have to understand this: everything that we love and cherish about our country, all that is pure and good on this earth, is directly tied to the reclamation of our Southern nation.

Remember, and never forget, what we are fighting for. The Andy Griffith Show has always been one of my favorite programs. Mayberry, North Carolina, the fictional town that it was set in, is a perfect image of midcentury Southern life. Our enemies tell us that Mayberry never existed. They’re wrong. Hundreds if not thousands of Mayberrys existed all over the South. My mom was blessed to have grown up in one.

My mother grew up in a tiny little town called Rich Hill, South Carolina. Her father was a sharecropper, and her mother was a homemaker. My mom lived next door to her grandparents, and every Sunday, after church, most of the extended family—more than fifty people—would gather there for a supper of fried chicken fresh from the coop, homemade biscuits, fresh vegetables from the garden, fresh churned butter, chess pie, pound cake, chocolate pie. On hot summer days, they’d sit under the oak tree churning ice cream.

Every year, her grandfather planted a garden, plowing it with a mule, walking behind in his worn leather brogans with this old iron plow. My mom would help the family shuck corn, hull peas, and string green beans. There was a lot of vegetable canning. They washed their clothes by hand.

After school, my mother would run next door and climb onto her grandpa’s lap under that oak tree. She’d reach in his pocket, and he always had a piece of gum or penny candy for her. Every day, he’d walk up the road to the corner store to visit with his friends and get his grandkids a treat. Her grandmother was always reading the Bible, rocking on the front porch.

That’s what we’re fighting for. Our posterity. A future for our children, a world in which that communitarian ideal isn’t just a memory, a world in which it’s a reality.

The blood of heroes courses through our veins. Through this ancestral blood, our forefathers commune with us. Their blood—our blood—calls out to us, challenges us, exhorts us, asking us why we allowed our enemies to drag us to this sordid, miasmic state of decay, commanding us to fight and to secure victory—not just to secure our existence and our future, but to triumph and fulfill the glorious plans they laid for us—to realize the future which they made possible for us.

Our duty is to take up our ancestors’ mantle, to preserve the birthright for which they sacrificed everything to bequeath to us, to stop squandering our inheritance and instead make ourselves worthy of their blood.

Our duty is to fill our descendants’ hearts with the admiration for us that we have for our forefathers, to give our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren, and their children after them a legacy to uphold, a name to honor, a kingdom to maintain and advance.

It will take everything that we have and all that we are, but we can and will reclaim our homeland. It is ours, and ours alone. It belongs to nobody else, and it never will. What other region of the raped and desecrated corpse that is the United States of Weimerika has managed to hold on to any semblance of an identity?

The South lives yet. The South shall survive, or we shall die with her. And as ever, the Lord will vindicate our blood.

This is an expanded version of an article that will appear in edited collection The Honorable Cause: A Free South, to be released on March 31.

Neil Robinson Kumar ran for U.S. Congress in Arkansas’s Third District in 2022, garnering nearly 17,000 votes. He is a graduate of the University of Chicago and is now in his final year at the University of Arkansas School of Law. A member of both the Sons of the American Revolution and the Sons of Confederate Veterans, his lineage can be traced to Jamestown. His next book is a history of the Reconstruction Ku Klux Movement.

46 replies
  1. Tim Folke
    Tim Folke says:

    Thank you, Mr. Kumar for having the courage to publicly state what most Whites only voice in private. As Dr. William Pierce once said, “We have very few men in America – just a lot of women of both sexes” (no offence to the Aryan momma bears!).

    I treasure our folk. However, for those who disdain people of mixed race I have this to say: Yes, we should all be extremely careful in choosing our grandparents!

    Thank you also for your comments on Christianity.

    I, too, grew up in a Mayberry. Things started changing for the worse rather rapidly though, around 22 November 1963 as I recall.

  2. John Alder
    John Alder says:

    We should discourage Southerners from serving in Uncle Saps armed forces. Years ago a group called the Southern National Party sold bumper sticjers featuring a Confederate flag and the message: INDEPENDENCE FOR DIXIE ! Maybe somebody will make and sell such stickers again? Your article is very thought provoking.

  3. Crush Limbraw
    Crush Limbraw says:

    I found this to be a fascinating read which will be archived in DaLimbraw Library just so I can find it again. It also triggered a few thoughts, the main one being this – – the author’s personal experience reminded me that from Genesis to Revelation, it has always been a war on Christ. The narrative in the Bible points that out from beginning to end and it is literally playing out in our lives and the world’s. It always has, whether we personally see it or not.
    Eyes to see come by the grace of God, but do not confuse Churchianity for Christianity……they’re not the same. All this and more starts at – – and includes Government Religion Politics Culture…..all of it….and I believe fits this article by our American Indian author like a glove.

    • Tim Folke
      Tim Folke says:

      You said, “do not confuse Churchianity for Christianity”. So true! The Bible is quite clear that the only people Jesus took issue with were religious people.

      As I and others have said, it’s only the 98% of the Christians that make the rest of us look bad.

      • Pierre de Craon
        Pierre de Craon says:

        The Bible—specifically, the New Testament—includes information about the Scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees. They are variously referred to as “whitewashed tombs” (Mt 23:27), children of “your father the devil” (Jn 8:44), and several other far from complimentary things. A typical Gospel picture of the character of these men’s religiosity is to be found in the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican.

        On the other hand, the genuinely “religious people” were those who followed and listened to Jesus and came to sense his divine origin. Jesus never “took issue” with such people.

  4. Richard McCulloch
    Richard McCulloch says:

    Half-White and Half-Indian? I doubt if many people would define the author as White. Perhaps he is in search of an identity and takes it to extremes through a mental construct, trying to be Whiter than White by being a White Nationalist (per his definition) and more Southern than the great majority of White Southerners by being a Southern Nationalist, even though the particularist course he advocates is contrary to the best or larger interests of the White race as a whole. Check out D.W. Griffith’s “The Birth of a Nation.” As far as true White Nationalists are concerned the reconciliation of Whites was accomplished over a century ago. I’m a Michigan Yankee who went to a Florida school where the pep rallies started with the band playing Dixie and everyone stood when the first notes were heard. White interests require White unity, and whatever divides us makes us weaker. Any true White Nationalist would know this instinctively, or intuitively, without having to think about it. But I doubt if someone who is only half-White, and so living in a mental construct, would have that instinct.

    • The Phantom
      The Phantom says:

      Well said.

      Nothing personal against Neil Kumar, and the points he makes in this essay may be perfectly true; he is what he is. But what he is, is half-caste.

    • Swaytonious
      Swaytonious says:

      As one from old southern aristocratic family let me say: No, we never reconciled.. and I still have a hatred of yankees… I’ve been put down multiple times in my life by your ilk for my Southern heritage. Until there is an apology for inflicting total warfare on your own KIN and an acknowledgment of the validity of Dixie’s grievance nothing about the current state of relations could be called reconciled.. even now Yankees gleefully dishonor the memory of my ancestors in renaming bases and removing statues.. the modern democrat party was born of the north and it is their creation that has destroyed us.. TWICE!

    • Pierre de Craon
      Pierre de Craon says:

      Ted Sallis’ response is right on the money.

      So long as the money you refer to is Confederate money or Weimar money, it would be hard to disagree.

      • Vesely
        Vesely says:

        Any specific disagreement? Do you approve of allowing non-Whites into White racial activism so that they may attempt to undermine White identity from within?

  5. HamburgerToday
    HamburgerToday says:

    I am saddened by the divisive and dismissive tone of this essay. Some of what Neil says about Christianity and White Nationalism is true, but it’s not as if Christianity has not given White Nationalists cause to doubt its utility to the cause of saving the White race. As Tim Folke put it succinctly earlier in this thread, it’s the 98% of Christians who make Christianity look bad. As a Northerner and a White Identity Nationalist, I would no more seek to impose Northern values on the South than I would wish to impose any other kind of sub-racial value-system on a fellow White, including religion. Which brings me to Christian Nationalism. At this time, there is no promise for Whites in Christian Nationalism. While the key figures seems solidly anti-anti-White and admit that Whites are under attack, they remain as ‘anti-racist’ as any trust-fund leftist. Christian Nationalists was a return to race-neutral ‘meritocracy’ that has already failed against jewish and non-White racial nepotism.

    I think Neil unfairly projects his own rebellious reasons for rejecting Christianity onto everyone who has done so. Many of us have reasons for finding a way different from those of our Christian ancestors.

    As for Christianity being a jewish product, what I say is this: Remove all reference to the jews form the Bible and see what you have left.

    • Desert Flower
      Desert Flower says:

      “Remove all reference to the jews from the Bible and see what you have left.”

      It’s an interesting experiment. An eye-opening one.

    • Saint Simon of Trent
      Saint Simon of Trent says:

      “Remove all reference to the jews form the Bible and see what you have left.”

      Since the New Testament was written in Ancient Greek and there is no Ancient Greek word for Jew, this will be less interesting than you think. However, after such an experiment, we will still have phrases like “Synagogue of Satan” to point us to the true path.

      • HamburgerToday
        HamburgerToday says:

        I said ‘references, not ‘words’. A referent is the thing a word points to. If a phrase or word or implied idea refers to the jews, remove it and see what you have left. The idea that there is a ‘Christianity’ that isn’t ‘Judeo-Christian’ is a false one. Christianity has had a 2-thousand-year-long ‘bad breakup’ with the jews. The Christians cannot stop talking about the jews but the jews will never take them back.

  6. John
    John says:

    England’s PM is not English, Ireland’s PM is not Irish, Scotland’s PM is not Scottish, therefore, these nations are doomed; the English, Irish, & Scottish have denied their children their homeland. That is pure evil.

    • moneytalks
      moneytalks says:

      Maybe not evil so much as pure stupidity .

      Most Nordics/Whites/Celtics

      are notoriously politicly retarded

      ( not mostly an IQ issue ) .

      from top to bottom of their social hierarchies .

      • John
        John says:

        “Maybe not evil so much as pure stupidity.” Our children r being attacked, raped, murdered. We Europeans allow this to continue – pure evil.

  7. James Clayton
    James Clayton says:

    If you run into him again, give my regards to Tom Sullivan at the UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS School of Law. My family is from Springfield and Robertson County, Tennessee, plowed with horses and mules on one side and the other side bought-from and sold-to them. They lived as you describe and were vigorous into their 90’s. Thank you for what you’ve done. No doubt investigation into a branch of your lineage lent perspective on cyclic descent into what Hindus described as Kali Yuga characterized as a period of inverted values. With kindest regards…

  8. James Clayton
    James Clayton says:

    With “World Enough and Time” it would be interesting to see what Revilo Oliver had to say on this subject:

    My father’s family were Scots Irish Mediterranean via the Pyrenees if geneticists are to be believed. He learned to work with Blacks from the son of a sharecropper for whom his father helped the Black man’s father build a home on the homeplace. But instead of being short in stature my dad was 6’8″ and he and I were borne with Thalassemia minor, an adaptation claimed to impart some resistance to Malaria which more than decimated the Roman empire. My blindingly White six-foot-tall wife was her daddy’s girl, a 6’7″ Norwegian-American who was a US NAVY rescue swimmer who enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor was interpreted by the mass media of so-called news. Her grandmother grew up in a castle in Scotland and with her husband helped start the citrus industry in America.

    Both our dads were first-string centers for their respective university basketball teams, Her’s at UC Berkeley and mine arriving on an INDIAN that looked little more than a balloon-tired bicycle with a WHIZZER motor. Both had similar experiences when the Harlem Globetrotters came to town– being asked to help them cordially run circles around the White men in exhibition games. We all got along well, that 90-something Black man being introduced to me at my father’s memorial service where 150 or so left written comments.

    However, the last thing my Scottish-English mother remembers before leaving home was a KKK hanging from the oak in their front yard by The Depot in Springfield that no local made much of as “all understood what prompted, justified it.” Former slavery as opposed to the then-apparently less appealing proffered return to the dark continent was not the issue but Southern independence from Yankees and their usual handlers. The longest fist fight in film history is in They Live, available online, pregnant with symbolism including trying to get Blacks to see they continue to be used, enslaved, weaponized.

  9. Space Cowboy
    Space Cowboy says:

    Yeah: “Dixie is God’s Country!”

    Of course, of course! But the name
    of the Holy Father there is Manitou
    (his son is not Jesus but Winnetou).

    What god did the Indian part of Mr. Ku-
    ma’s ancestors worship? “You can step
    away from being reborn”, claims Mr. (wink
    wink) Winkler. An unexpected possibility!

    However, the belief in such nonsense
    as reincarnation (or about “life after death”)
    cannot logically-rationally explain the con-
    stantly growing population of Africa until today.

    Also the Christian “paradise” (or “heaven”)
    must be completely overcrowded meanwhi-
    le, so that the Jewish main God cannot take
    care of his individual European sheep perso-
    nally already for centuries, what is a big defi-
    ciency at the Christianity and a possible rea-
    son for a premature change of religion, if one
    wants to hold on to the belief in such inconcei-
    vably naive children’s fairy tales absolutely…

  10. Space Cowboy
    Space Cowboy says:

    “They nonsensically slan-
    der Christianity as ‘Jewish'”.

    “OMFG” … dis iss literally
    Hitler! It should be banned
    and punished as “heresy”!

  11. Birhan Dargey
    Birhan Dargey says:

    Just Beautiful article. I will print it and share it with my closest friends. It spoke to my mind/brain as well as to my soul. The American Christian Southern Heritage may be considered a WHITE Christian anglo/saxon nation onto itself, having a definite Geographic/linguistic/racial/Historical/political/cultural identity proper. These factors could give the American South the necessary pillars for National self determination even within the Larger American USA region. BUT I would wonder how widespread, how deep, is White Southern ID/politics/Nationalism/ideology among the larger population/s. IF White Southerns are race conscious of their American Nationalist Heritage, then their enemies (jews) are more acutely aware themselves. This is very explicit in Media/academics/politics etc. The Southerns peoples are constantly mock/derided/dismiss as ignorant/shoeless/illiterate/inbred/anti intellectual freak hicks,(Deliverance) monsters; hanging desperatly to their Guns/Bibles; hopelessly doom to go extinct. As I read this (seminal) article I am watching the mobs of LGBTQ+ storm the Kentucky State Capitol violently. It has been barely three days after a Trans left terrorist massacred six CHRISTIAN victims (3children/3elderly) blaming them for the “persecution” of Trans people. I believe this is part of a wider sinister agenda to cow the WHITE Christian populations into submission to the jewish gay/lgbt/pedo/ANAL agenda. The Southern White Christian Nationalist are perhaps the last bastion of traditional America resistance to jewish oligarchical control. Unfortunately there are two main negative factors: 1) White Southerns still VOTE for Jewish dem/left/liberal candidates why?. 2) The jews understand more profoundly than Southerns themselves, the great threat to jewish power that Southerns are and may become. That means that JEWS will never allow the White Chrisitian Southern Nationalist power to grow. They will use blacks/Mexicans/lgbt mobs as proxies to defeat the South AGAIN. The jews will never let the White Southern Nationalists CHRISTIAN Movement gain traction demographically/racially/institutionally/religiously/POLITICALLY/legislative/culturally etc. The Best course of action is BUILD LOCAL STATE WHITE Christian Nationalist POWER..can the South rise again??? overcome jewish powerful grip on America???

  12. Transvaal Boer
    Transvaal Boer says:

    A wonderful and insightful article. We Boers are in a very similar situation. What people don’t realise, is that there is not such thing as a “White South African”. The White population can generally be divided into (native) Afrikaners on the one hand, and the English speaking South Africans on the other hand (who only during the last generation or two have stopped referring to England as “Home”). However, and much more importantly, the Afrikaners contain a very distinct subgroup, namely the Boers. We are the descendants of the Voortrekkers, who set up our own republics in the interior (north), and fought wars of independence against the British Empire. Like the Southrons of the Confederacy, we have a distinct history, culture, heritage, and even constitutionalism and churches from the Afrikaners in the south, the Cape. So-called “Afrikaner nationalism” is an artificial and contrived notion that was propagated after the Union of South Africa came into being, and the northern republican Boers were fused with the liberal, English-orientated Afrikaners from the south, simply due to speaking the same language. There is much similarity with the Southern Cause, though I fear the majority of Boers have been conditioned during the last century to rather associate with the broader, and more inclusive ethnic identity of “Afrikaner”.

  13. Transvaal Boer
    Transvaal Boer says:

    The noble cause of the South (with which I have great sympathy) aside, this article is astonishing. The author clearly states that he is of mixed race, yet he attempts to regard himself as a Southron. The inherent contradiction here is that he makes out a case of Southern identity being based on blood and soil, but for him to be able to embrace the identity, he has to resort to civic nationalism. The author’s mother betrayed her race and people by marrying and interbreeding with a non-White. In essence, she and her progeny were “lost to the cause”. If the author feels as strongly about Whiteness as part of the Southron identity and make-up as he asserts, he will not marry a Germanic Southron girl, and not dilute the Southron gene pool. Should he do so, he will simply assist in the destruction of the White race he accuses the Jews of. I am quite astounded the likes of James Edwards associates with this kind. There is NO difference between this and people regarding Humza Yousaf as “Scottish”.

  14. Space Cowboy
    Space Cowboy says:

    So the stupid game of “definitional sovereignty” in the sense of the Jews goes on forever. And if the white race is not already extinct in 100 years, then these sham “battles” will still be fought with fervor and conviction.

    That all this was already part of the problem and not of the solution 100 years ago is not recognized by these pusillanimous (and partly malicious) clueless “blindfishs.”

    While Spaintard Fartinez is really about economics and the “free market” and not about racial politics (which cannot be enforced by capitalism or communism, since it is not one of their goals), the left is not about race, but about “global justice”.

    • Space Cowboy
      Space Cowboy says:

      “As little as possible but as much as necessary”, by the way, corresponds fundamentally to the attitude towards interventions in nature that we call “culture”. Cultivation is ultimately a human-controlled process that protects any biotope from wild growth and degeneration and limits its form of existence to a clearly manageable habitat.

      Every good gardener knows these laws, be he British or Chinese. The same laws, consistently and politically responsibly thought, have to be applied of course also to the breeding of a noble people! Unless this people is so corrupt, spoiled and degenerated that it elects even its worst executioners as its representatives.

    • moneytalks
      moneytalks says:

      … the left is not about race, but about “global justice”.
      That may be superficially true .

      However , the jewmasters
      ( whom own/control the Left )
      are about attaining dominion of the entire world primarily by effectively , if not de jurely , monopolizing global money systems which by far most Nordics/Whites do not adequately understand the complexity of those technologies .

  15. Karole
    Karole says:

    The Jewish Question in America must be addressed openly and frankly.

    It must be the subject of a wide-ranging public discussion.

  16. Forever Guilty
    Forever Guilty says:

    Well. Its very depressing, that commentators and authors of TOO, no less, spend their time and energy discussing rants of somebody with name “Kumar” about White nationalism…


  17. moneytalks
    moneytalks says:

    ” This vexing topic “…

    You ain’t just a whislin’ Dixie with that observation .

    That “vexing topic” is part of the whole Ghordian Knot of Nordic/White racial identity issues , White National issues , Southern National issues , Christian religion issues , Garden of Eden issues , political ideology issues , et al , and last but not least JQ issues .

    You are correct about the USA being an illusion .

    The link below is to
    an historic 7 minute ( year 1984 video ) interview ,
    with the astonishingly prescient
    KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov
    whom explains why the American Freedom Goose
    has been fully cooked and half eaten already ___

  18. Anon
    Anon says:

    Lincoln had planned to keep the races separate. He gave the freed slaves the plantations, but that ended when he was assassinated. Many wealthy planters rode out the war with their fortunes intact and moved West, leaving a mess behind. Russia is enormous and always had diverse ethnic groups, more or less treated as equal. I’m thankful for the arrival of Indian and Muslim doctors. It gives me an alternative. I’ve never had a bad experience with them.

  19. James Clayton
    James Clayton says:

    “I’m thankful for the arrival of Indian and Muslim doctors. It gives me an alternative. I’ve never had a bad experience with them.”

    It’s not always the worst and dullest who emigrate. From my personal experience, I’ll take a Buddhist or Hindu medical doctor with a sincere moral compass over much created by selfish, greedy enemies for profit. And Judeo-Christianity even among otherwise admired Japanese, raised Japanese but Americanized for a couple of generations here, has not been a particularly good influence on the medical and many other professions.

    We get a Christmas letter from a “saved” racially Japanese martial artist, apparently primarily a Christian and a couple of generations our junior, and his primary focus is forgiveness. He doesn’t speak to me in-person any longer after discussing my beliefs on economics and the allied use of nuclear weapons.

    The film, The Last Samurai was thought provoking for me having an interest in principles of Japanese martial arts for facing and preventing violence. Recognize insidious propaganda, the chaff and point it out to others. The nourishment is an example of being a missionary as salvation from suffering.

    Those from other places, cultures, races and their having left extant fly larvae habitat, many here not just for refuge but understanding, providing service. Preventing flies is not swatting at effects but eliminating knowing & willfully created that in which its reproduction, its proliferation requires for Development, for its future.

    Good things came out of the 1960s. For me recognition of noble truth. Sex is not just for procreation but bonding to provide stability for offspring, the future. And the importance of appreciation, kindness, and Herman Hesse

    The filth in which we collectively wallow, complain of these days, has a cause, prevention, elimination requires eliminating that cause. It’s that simple, not a vexing Question.

  20. Whit
    Whit says:

    Very brave of this young author to use his real name. I share his Southern and Southern Baptist heritage (my great-great-grandfather was wounded at Gettysburg). I won’t quibble about his Indo-Aryan bloodline. I’ve met enough of them to know they are the best of Aryans, to the point I began to think of Germanic Aryans as bleached out Indians (I’m sure, however, he would agree that the South can do without the horde). I likewise attended a segregated school in which Amerindian hybrids were “one of us” and not considered in any way a threat to white racial integrity. Nor were Jews at the time. My best friend growing up was half Cherokee. Besides being a George Wallace enthusiast, he was the only one of us reading Dickens in middle school. As with Southerners of yore, only blacks portended a horde that could threaten us. Indeed, as late as 1900, 95% of blacks lived in the South. And while all the blacks I know personally are civil and peace loving, as a race they are the most suggestible on earth to Jewish weaponization and subversion. Hence, as the author points out, our race problem is essentially our Jewish problem. Jews like Judah Benjamin and David Yulee are long “gone with the wind” and for all practical purposes we are the ignoble “last Berlin” of today’s deep state Jews. Racial extinction: such is the thanks white southern males get for fighting and dying to pull their chestnuts from the fires of the Third Reich in World War II. But the real turning point (for the South at least) was probably the trial of Leo Frank for the murder of little Mary Phagan, specifically for which the ADL was founded. Yet, ironically, the South remains one of the most Zionist-loving regions in the U.S. largely owing to, I’m sorry to say, Southern Baptist churches like I grew up in. It goes without saying that millions of Christian white Southerners could use a paradigm shift on this issue—and soon. Let’s continue to help them with that.

    • James Clayton
      James Clayton says:

      Evangelicals are an exponentially increasing phenomena not just in the South. Community church leaders who incorporate as non-profits enjoy tremendous power, benefits. Some aren’t even smart enough to preach themselves, much less understand what damage their causing by hiring teaching pastors. Many are aware of exactly what they’re doing. I’m old and repeat myself.

      Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:
      1. Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
      2. The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
      3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
      4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
      5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person. Corollary: a stupid person is more dangerous than a pillager.

      • John Alder
        John Alder says:

        Nobody ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the american public. Human nature never changes .The majority must always be wrong, knowing that helps one to prosper.

  21. Ron Chapman
    Ron Chapman says:

    Thanks for your thoughts Neil. You say:
    “Before the Jews ever worked to destroy the South, the Yankees literally put Dixie to the torch and the sword in the War for Southern Independence and then enslaved her in the most humiliating fashion conceivable during Reconstruction. Federal soldiers committed atrocities against Southern civilians at an unprecedented scale, the first real example of total warfare waged by a nominally civilized power”

    I disagree.
    Arguably Jewish banksters instigated the Civil War and funded both sides as they always do. In that sense Talmudic Khazars and their Talmudic goy minions, DID work to destroy the South even before Northern goys actually began slaughtering Southern civilians and laying waste their civilisation.

    Arguably, perceiving our world in terms of races, nationalities and cultures misdirects our attention from intrinsic realities.
    Ultimately all of Creation is One because everything arises from thought energy that emerges from the mind of the Creator.

    That energy is information in a multitude of variations that variously merge to create matter and the material cosmos.

    When the element of consciousness in specific conglomerations of matter rises sufficiently, that consciousness gives rise to life. That element of conscious awareness is initially diffused and generalised to genuses and groupsings, that then develop group souls in e.g. shoals of fish, flocks of birds etc that exhibit the characteristics of having a group soul. Such groups tend to move in unison.

    Eventually the level of consciousness in group souls starts to individuate into individuals in herds of beasts and finally into fully separate individuated beings.

    When that happens individuals begin to develop self consciousness and start the process of learning to think. Once that occurs the individual starts building a soul, a conscious repository of experience and thought. The process of soul building can only commence after the process of evolving consciousness from inanimate matter into living matter has taken place, followed by individuation.

    Once a physical creature becomes capable of independent thought his/her body (meat suit) has developed a soul carrier body and the individual starts building a soul that stores his/her thoughts and memories.

    As the soul grows the creature eventually develops the ability to make moral decisions. When that happens the Creator bestows a spirit fragment of itself upon that individual who becomes a HUman (higher universal man) indwelt by a fragment of Creator consciousness which destines the individual to become reunited with the Creator i.e. ALL that IS.

    Not all featherless bipeds in our world are indwelt by a spark of Creator consciousness because not all have soul carrier capable meat suits as many have been created by demonic biological and transhumanist experimentations etc.

    Such individuals remain soulless and lack creative intelligence and the ability to love. They have intelligence but go through life copying, mimicking and manipulating others. This group contributes many sociopaths and psychopaths to society.

    It follows that, for HUmans, race, nationality, culture and individual ‘meat suit’ characteristics are only ‘skin deep’ as it were. Culture and upbringing tend to determine our thinking and morality but we are capable of changing them using conscious thought and mindfulness as Bruce Lipton’s videos illustrate.

    The only ultimately enduring characteristic is LOVE of all and everything because that is ultimately all there is. Unity and love are the ultimate destiny of everyone. The process is eternal and hence seems very slow.

    Incidentally, contrary to Neil’s opinion that Trump’s presidency failed, it hasn’t. Trump is still president and will lead the US into a glorious future.

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