The English Are Sick of Being Polite. They Are Making Clear Who’s One of Them

There is a fascinating new debate taking place in England over what it means to be English. Until post-War non-White immigration, this didn’t even need to be discussed. To be English was to descend from the Anglo-Saxons – Angle-land – who settled in what is now England after the collapse of the Roman Empire. Some pub bores would insist that there is a degree to which, in the west of the country, the Anglo-Saxons interbred with rather than simply replaced the Celts, meaning that those in the west were a Saxon-Celtic cline. This is true, but they are still descended from the Saxons and this is so even if there was an incursion of Normans, Vikings and Danes. As Frank Salter has shown in On Genetic Interests, the native English make up a distinct genetic cluster, two random English people are more genetically similar to each other than an Englishman and Frenchmen. On average, two random English people are twelfth cousins and they all descend from King Edward I, due to the way in which those of high status used to have higher completed fertility.

Multiculturalism has forced people, out of politeness and out of a desire for equality, to attempt to overturn this; to completely redefine what it means to be English. Such that Black and brown people can be included, and such that any sense of English identity and attachment to the pre-Multiculturalism past can be obliterated, opinion-formers have attempted to redefine Englishness. This process may have started as far back as the 1980s. There was a political advertisement by the Conservative Party in which was a Black man. Beneath him was the slogan: “Labour Say He’s Black. Tories Say He’s British.” Except most of them didn’t: “British” meant you were English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish. Therefore, very few people thought he was British, let alone English. In the 1980s, Black football players would be regularly booed and subject to monkey noises at matches.

The new definition of English, or British, is simply that you are born in the country. The ludicrousness and tendentiousness of such a definition is brought into stark relief if we ask, “If a White person was born in Bengal, does that make him Bengali?” As the Prime Minister and military leader the Duke of Wellington, whose Englishness was questioned because he had been born in Ireland, put it: “Being born in a stable does not make one a horse.” But this was something that, until relatively recently, prominent people simply didn’t say.

We English all knew that Englishness was a matter of blood; we were an extended genetic family based around shared ancestors. But, being English, we tried to be polite and to not publically talk about such things. However, as I have pointed out in my book Woke Eugenics: How Social Justice is a Mask for Social Darwinism, the Woke appear to be accelerationists. They have manifested because, with the collapse of harsh Darwinian conditions since the Industrial Revolution, there has been a huge build-up in mutation. Prior to that. we were selecting for mental health, physical health and group-orientation to better win the battle of group-selection (conservatism). But now there has meant a build-up of mentally unstable, left-wing, selfish people who virtue-signal to the point of anti-natalism: feel bad for being White, feel bad for being human, abort your offspring, do not have children, White people are evil. . . . This eventually creates a situation where the only survivors are the genetically conservative and it creates a conservative backlash before it’s too late.

These mutants have now taken over the culture and have become so tyrannical that conservatives have found themselves utterly excluded and having the feeling of being “in the world but not of the world” that fundamentalists have. Conservatives have been forced to find each other and they strongly bond with each other over shared adversity. In other words, Wokeness has created polarisation and once you are in the “conservative” camp, and understand that people will back you up, you dare to state your genuine opinions and you also conservatism-signal, such that the long-buried are reawakened. Further, Wokeness is, a sense, the new Church: it is, effectively, inviting young people to rebel against it. Conservatism is, ironically, now edgy, rebellious and cool, at least for a portion of young people. Remember the 1990s cartoon Daria? If she’d been born in the year 2000, I’m fairly sure she’d be “trad” and her sister would be Woke. And naturally, the English were pushed even further when, in 2022, they found themselves with an Indian Prime Minister and, in fact, all senior government positions occupied by non-British people. The English are also constantly being pushed further by unrestrained non-White immigration and the attendant crime, including the rapes of little girls. Serious politicians are, therefore, discussing remigration.

Sensing the way the wind was blowing, in February 2025, the right-wing Conservative former Home Secretary Suella Braverman, who was born in the UK but whose family are from Goa, declared that though she was British she was not English, as this was clearly an ethnicity, like being Bengali. In a Woke context, only a brown person could dare to say this, and, in so doing, she was likely trying to make herself likeable to the increasingly angry English population. The comedian Nick Dixon joked on Twitter, in response: “I’ve always liked Suella Braveman and I will be sad when she is deported.”

In August 2025, a journalist called Robert Tombs wrote in the Daily Telegraph that Englishness didn’t really exist and, if it did, it was a culture that could be learnt. Naturally, this was met with derision. Did he think that cultures fell out of the sky like thunderbolts and randomly hit groups of people? Of course, there is a genetic component to Englishness. The previous month, at a public debate entitled “How to Save England,” Tombs had made the same assertion. It was met with gasps of disbelief from the (young) audience, with people insisting that Englishness was a matter of ancestry. Tombs, it should be said, is part-French, so not fully English.

For many years there has been a debate among feminists over what it means to be a woman. The typical Cluster B Personality Disorder, virtue-signalling “activists” have screamed as loud as they can that “Transwomen are real women.” This is important, because to say otherwise might hurt the feelings of victim-signalling men who are sexually aroused by the idea of themselves as a woman. Other women would regard it as “mean,” and women, being highly socially anxious, must seem “kind” in front of other women; in front of people whose friendship system is based around finding alloparents for their hypothetical children.

So-called “TERFs” (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists) insist that sex is biological; you cannot change sex and, in that sex is a matter of your chromosomes, they are obviously correct. Tranwomen are simply deluded men who are trying to make us take part in their delusion.

The same debate has now arrived in the world of Englishness. Some people seem to believe that you can be trans-racial or trans-ethnic. This is palpably absurd. What we mean by “English,” as English people, is a person who is a member of our genetic family; a person who shares our ancestors, the founding ancestors who occupied our piece of land for a very long time. And it is Woke tyranny that has forced the English to be so impolite as to say this. We are fed up of being polite. A growing body of us are FERNs (Foreign Exclusionary Radical Nationalists) and, like ferns, we know our roots, deep in the primordial forest.

25 replies
  1. foot in the forest
    foot in the forest says:

    As you English contemplate your roots, I a humble American suggest you start reading and heeding your man Kipling and his writings on SAXONS and HATE.

    • James Clayton
      James Clayton says:

      THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
      by Rudyard Kipling

      It was not part of their blood,
      It came to them very late,
      With long arrears to make good,
      When the Saxon began to hate.

      They were not easily moved,
      They were icy — willing to wait
      Till every count should be proved,
      Ere the Saxon began to hate.

      Their voices were even and low.
      Their eyes were level and straight.
      There was neither sign nor show
      When the Saxon began to hate.

      It was not preached to the crowd.
      It was not taught by the state.
      No man spoke it aloud
      When the Saxon began to hate.

      It was not suddently bred.
      It will not swiftly abate.
      Through the chilled years ahead,
      When Time shall count from the date
      That the Saxon began to hate.

  2. English Patriot
    English Patriot says:

    The thesis presented here is correct. The English are an ethnic subset of the census-defined “White British”.
    Is the “Richard” Tombs cited here Professor Robert Tombs who wrote the welcome attack on foreign immigration and race-replacement in the “Daily Mail” on 9 August? See his Wiki entry.

    Archivists should look out for “Ourselves: Essay on the National Character” by Henry W. Nevinson, an introduction to BBC talks by Arthur Bryant, with a three page bibliography, published in 1933, nine decades ago, yet still true of our people, despite recent demographic and cultural marginalisation, though there will be those who find the later anti-Nazi views of this left-wing Germanophile a “reason” for dismissing him.

  3. English Patriot
    English Patriot says:

    PS – Apologies: it was “Robert”, author of “The English & their History”. Matt Goodwin has emphasised the inherited ethnicity of the English; it was taken for granted by Kipling, Inge, Orwell, Priestley and all sorts, English or not, until the Woke Conspiracy worked its way through our institutions.

    • Arnold Bannerman
      Arnold Bannerman says:

      There was never any doubt among the English about their own ethnic identity – race, language, homeland, culture, institutions – until around start of the 1980s, though they did not use “ethnic” in self-definition; the collective identity was something “felt” as a large family membership not a civic contract. Two wars, albeit regrettable, reinforced this in the trenches and in naval battles, and under bombardment.
      Goodwin’s honesty and accuracy in pointing this out (see his podcast interviews) has brought hostile responses from the likes of Simon (St Vitus Dance) Schama and Oliver (Neo-con) Kamm, accusing the idea of “ethnicity” in the case of the English as “evil”.
      Not a view they would apply to Jewry.

  4. Harvey J.
    Harvey J. says:

    I like this article and while I’m glad to finally see more and more stating that Whites are fed up, tired, repulsed over non-white immigration the question still remains and begs to be answered.

    What are they prepared to do about it? Better yet, what can they do about it?
    What is the solution to this and how does a group go about accomplishing it?

    Sadly I have yet to come across any such definitive or even plausible answer. How can any of this be fixed? By voting? Not a chance. I really don’t believe there is an answer to this global problem.

    Yesterday I watched a fairly good interview with Prof. John Mearshimer (not certain of spelling his surname and apologize) and the topic was about Israel, it’s founding and the ongoing genocide and mass starvation. At the end he was asked what the solution is, how does it all get turned around? He had no answer and said as much. The Israel lobby is too powerful, too wealthy and in control.

    I believe that Anglin is right. Empires collapse and fall. We are currently in a falling empire and there isn’t anything that can be done to stop it.

  5. z
    z says:

    Ook, fine..but if englishmen identify as anglosachsens..why did they participate in the two world sionistictalmudic wars agaignst Germany..Okok, i understand..they were duped. Don’t blame them. Hope they learn history correct from now and dare to see truth, real historytruth.

    • Michel Martin
      Michel Martin says:

      @ Mr Z
      Americans had as much responsibility than the population of Great Britain. There were people in the UK and USA against war with their German cousins. Some Jews fought in both world wars. Other Jews opposed WW1, but Jews generally supported WW2 for obvious reasons. The Gentile electorates were deceived. Samuel Landman’s “Great Britain, the Jews and Palestine” (2018 ed) is an important source of information.

      • z
        z says:

        I’m not talking about the sc jws, because i don’t know what that is. It’s an invention (and have nothing to do with Juda tribe, even if the ashkenaz sc jws wants people to believe that, ie ashkenaz,s are not semitic..at all) according to Shlomo Sand and Benjamin Freedman (former sc jws). And I am not talking about those who opposed the wars and did not participate (there were yes, many on both sides of the Atlantic). I’m talking about the people who did fight and maybe are still alive but to this day many of them don’t even know they were fooled in to the stupid wars that gains only one f…ng group…

        I quote the person who taught a future generation, a long time ago, saying; “one arrow separated from the others, are weak. All arrows together are strong”.

        Wars and conflicts, the f…ng groups wars and conflicts, serves ony one sc ‘mission, to separate all humans from eachother, so ‘they’ can be..’strong’. They are weaklings and are only ‘strong’ when humankind are divided. But only 10-20% of world population, understand this. As today.

  6. Larry Snipes
    Larry Snipes says:

    As an American Whitey I am more British than any brown invader in Britain. The only foreign wars I would support America getting in are wars to remove the browns and recolonize European countries with Whites. Well I’d also support destroying both Israel and Palestine and colonizing them with Whites. Whites need more land. Land where we can have it to ourselves and keep the brown orcs out. This is the kind of war we need. Colonialism. But not colonialism that administers a foeeign country for the browns. Nay. Colonialism that wipes them out and takes their land, but first that retakes White lands from them. First we take back Britain, then we take India and remove the pajeets from earth as punishment for their audacity in trying to take England (and for all their spam calls I keep getting). Then we take Israel. That I would support.

  7. Joe Webb
    Joe Webb says:

    the first thing to do is get the names right.

    I live in the San Francisco Bar area. My local FM classical station, kdfc got hit with a Trump punch, canceling their 1.1 million dollar yearly subsidy. So they are soliciting their listeners for money.

    I phoned them and asked for customer support, etc. I told the female attendant that I was just sitting down to write them a nice fat check, when an ad came on for Ron’s drag nightclub. I told the nice gal that hearing about a nightclub for butt-fuckers was sufficient to cancel my largesse for kdfc. She did not hangup on me, so I asked if she understood. She said yes. I said thank you and hung up the phone. It has been about ten days and I have not heard any ad for the buttfuckers, in San Francisco no less. In a week or so if kdfc remains shall we say, chaste, I will send them a check.

    Use the correct language, it gets thru to the masses who are sick of queers, niggers, jews, and Femi Commies. more or less.

  8. Reeson
    Reeson says:

    The Occidental Observer needs new blood. The saying goes that “talk is cheap, because supply exceeds demand”.

    After every article, there should be an auto signature which reminds, urges and borderline “commands” the reader to organize locally, in-person, with like-minds and form small groups which act to effect meaningful change for their own Western nation.

    100’s of such groups need to be created, each operating independently but all acting in the same general direction.

    Form your own. Don’t waste your life hoping that organized internet platforms or dissident right influencers will do the job for you, risk, expense and effort free.

    When I say act, don’t think the worst. There are many, many ways to be effective which won’t wind you up in jail.

    Publicity stunts can be incredibly effective, as example.

    The abstract, which Whites love to remain in, is a Siren. A safe happy place, where no realization is neccessary. Thinking isn’t doing. It’s important, but is only one part of a whole. The dissident right is lopsided in the abstract.

    Remember, “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”

    • Emma Smith
      Emma Smith says:

      We can do without personal abuse, divisive splitting, ranting hatred and outlandish paranoia. Proven facts and rational argument are essential to acquire and retain activists and funds.

      • Reeson
        Reeson says:

        Hi Emma,

        “personal abuse, divisive splitting, ranting hatred and outlandish paranoia.”

        Is that how you interpreted what I said?

        “Proven facts and rational argument are essential to acquire and retain activists and funds.”

        Rational argument is something that the DR has had in spades for decades. 1000’s of articles written. Millions of tweets pushed. Among the DR, realization is a four letter word. An uncomfortable one. Safely couched in atomized anonymity and living in the abstract while strewn across the non-reality of the internet, White activists will continue to be at their in-effectual best. These activists are in reality inactive.

        I’ll discuss this further with you, but only in person. As of now, you and I are strangers on the internet and that is as far as our interaction will ever go. A pity.

    • Joe Webb
      Joe Webb says:

      I have a “publicity stunt” that I deployed during the Iraq War. It consists of a play on the iconic Uncle Sam “I want you to join the US army” of WW1 vintage I think.

      The costume includes a sign: “I want you to die for Israel” with Uncle Sam pointing his finger out at his audience. Includes a top hat of pressed wool and slightly concave sides, painted per USA emblems including as well an Israeli flag with a swastika (sorry) contained therein, Tuxedo tails/jacket and military pants and patent leather shoes.

      I hammered the left at demos in San Francisco for a couple weeks or more and had a lot of success in educating lefties, who at the time were not red pilled on the e Jews. I had a leaflet running down the neocons, etc.

      I was attacked once by a jew at Stanford University but he ran off when I started to yell for police. The Stanford cop also ran off.
      iN Berkeley at another demo put together by Christian Zionists who were touring the US with a burned out Israeli bus, two of these Christian zios told me to leave or they would beat me up.

      20 plus years ago I looked pretty intimidating, particularly puffed up a bit with a bullet-proof vest.
      I told these Christian zoos that if they attacked me I would kill both of them within ten seconds.
      They left.

      My Uncle Sam photo went all over the world. A friend told me it was picked up by Instauration here at home.

      I redeployed Uncle Sam a couple weeks ago in Palo Alto at the shabbas goyim Palo Alto Peace and Justice demo. Among other things, like frightened Arabs, and unattractive white women who told me I should go away, I stayed of course. They told me I was full of hatred. I said nothing but if they only knew… Only a couple of the Arab men approached me. I had been given a 1947 map of Palestine with all the villages about 20 years ago, by a Palestinian woman, etc. I gave it to one of the Palestinian men there.

      We are wining. The Internet has started the counter-revolution.

      Palestinians are giving their lives to defeat the Jewish Power while a number of our putative WN friends like Jared Taylor married a Jew and roots for the Jews. He must be getting paid off by the Jews. Another historic opportunity like Gaza right now, is not going to come our way again. Meanwhile Taylor and other White Nationalists are drumming of hatred of Arabs in Europe. Counterproductive. Arabs, etc, will just have more reason despise us as Great Satans… Let the Europeans fight their own battles….where is their White Fight?

      Let the contradictions continue to sharpen with regard to White dispossession by savages. We have to wait anyway since White Fight is only starting to emerge. Kill off the Jewish Power now that we have this historic opportunity. We have to wait anyway for Whites to begin to hate, and we can get rid of Trumpstein along the way.

      Trumpstein is just the first chapter of White hate. Right now the jews are ripe for attack. It is all Gaza. Let the White working class and the middle class develop particularly as the Recession Begins, and mebbe worse.

      If the US and trumpstein send in the army/marines, etc against Iran, the fat will be in the fire and Uncle Sam will report for duty. Again.

      The Peace and Justice left-wingers are paid for by the Palo Alto Jew liberals, etc. Pretty weird but that is the world we find ourselves in.

      • z
        z says:

        This is a war between Humanity and talmudists. They say it themselfes; eradicate 90% of ‘amaleks’..(that is Us), the rest shall be slaves because they are not suitable for anything else…”

        Hmm..so, what shall wee do about that..

        • Michel Martin
          Michel Martin says:

          @ Mr z
          Well, we could read the Talmud more carefully and demonstrate its effect on modern Jews.

  9. ganainm
    ganainm says:

    It’s possible to be both polite and very insulting at the same time. It’s good fun! Foreigners here object strongly to the question “Where are you from?”, so it’s always entertaining to ask them. The next question is “When are you going back?”, said with a smile.

  10. Joe Webb
    Joe Webb says:

    I keep urging folks to watch Col. Douglas Macgregor. He is great…West Point, Ph.D in international Relations . He knows ME and West Asia history and current relations. Condemns Ukraine war, the Jews, Israel, the War Party, US Congress/Aipac, (did I say the jews?), Nato, the Europeans, etc. He is as good as it can get within the US politics context and calls for the removal of 50 million border jumpers.

    He is presidential, looks like 6 foot Aryan, blue eyes, mesomorph build, and very smart/articulate, and about 72, just right for 2028. He tries not to alienate Trumpstsein, yet sees Trumpstein as controlled by Deep state, and his own ego.

    God may call Trumpstein home soon, thus opening up possibilities for 2028.

  11. Joe Webb
    Joe Webb says:

    By the way, Mr. Dutton, thank you for all your work.

    I am not clear on how English as a language got so Germanic. I would welcome a comment on just how many Saxons got into England.

    I am half English and half Swedish by family heritage. I seem to have a significant berserker genetic component given my scrapes with the law and personally in terms of fist fights when I was young, and as my doctor informs me, my relatively high testosterone level for my age. Joe Webb

  12. Reeson
    Reeson says:

    From a Youtube commenter

    ” In Ireland, community co-operation are springing up everywhere. There is a community council who organises meetings, writes letters to state bodies etc, and the community co-op which is made up of the people of one area who vote on local issues. Migrant centres have been stopped in some areas, sale of public land to private purchasers have been stopped or reversed. Once the whole country is covered in co-ops we will be able to influence politics and take our country back. We have the power, but are usually kept ignorant about how to use it. ”

    How many commenters on TOO have met locally, in-person to organize?

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