Mark Wauck: Mearsheimer: Optimist Or Pessimist?

Mearsheimer finishes on a pessimistic note. He calls up the example of Vietnam. When Johnson bowed out it was clear that he knew he had lost the war. But Nixon and Kissinger spent years trying to find some clever way to win the war. It didn’t work, but it does look like the same dynamic could be at play with Trump—once a modern state gets into a war it’s well-nigh impossible to simply call it quits. And especially not when that involves a surrender of hegemony.
What’s going on today in Trump’s engagement with Iran? Let’s walk this back a bit.

As soon as Trump submitted to the surrender terms that Iran presented to him in the MOU that he was required to sign, he immediately began trying to wriggle out of the MOU. He began insisting that the US had the right to set up its own route through the Strait of Hormuz; he tried to back out of the requirement to shut down Israel’s war in Lebanon; and he tried to talk the Iranian negotiators into discussing nuclear issues before complying with the MOU—as well as misrepresenting the Iranian position on those issues. Now, it happens that the Iranian negotiators may have contributed to some of that confusion, but the IRGC clarified all that—most recently by striking five ships that had tried, at US instigation, to ignore the Iranian regime in the strait.

What happened next was that Trump began striking at Iran again—violating the MOU and the ceasefire. And Iran retaliated. But the US strikes seem to have come to an end, as of last night. For the time being. The cessation of US strikes was accompanied by the usual childish Trumpian insults directed at Iran and Iranians. Larry Johnson suggested that Trump’s over the top rhetorical reaction was a typical sign from Trump that the Iranian retaliation had been extremely heavy and effective—Trump’s complaint that Iranians are “violent” certainly lends credibllity to that suggestion.

That brings us to this morning. Two things happened. First, Trump claimed that Iran had called him, basically begging for talks. Trump magnanimously stated that he was OK with continuing talks but that the ceasefire was definitely over. Second, the two US aircraft carriers in the region (Bush and Lincoln) sailed into the Gulf of Oman—well within Iranian missile range and without their air defense escort ships.

John Mearsheimer, speaking with Danny Davis, addressed these events. First, he reiterated that his long held view was that Trump’s only viable course of action to avoid massive strategic humiliation and economic chaos is to sign the MOU and accept defeat. Trump has signed the MOU, but can’t seem to swallow accepting defeat. Second, Mearsheimer stated that the correct understanding of Trumpspeak is that, when Trump says the Iranians want to talk to him, that means that he wants to talk to them. In other words, Trump has been forced to recognize that the recent events are just one more in a fairly long string of failed attempts to wriggle out of accepting defeat and presenting the appearance of a victory. The moves by the two unprotected carriers were just another bit of theater.

So far, so good. But expecting Trump to follow through on any of his commitments is a fool’s errand, and there aren’t many fools in Tehran. So, for the time being, Trump may actually be toying with the option of withdrawing—despite his talk of going back to his failed blockade strategy. Another possible sign that Trump is seriously considering the opt out is that the Israelis have once again deployed their “Iranian assassination plot” gag to try to bring Trump back in line.

Mearsheimer finishes on a pessimistic note. He calls up the example of Vietnam. When Johnson bowed out it was clear that he knew he had lost the war. But Nixon and Kissinger spent years trying to find some clever way to win the war. It didn’t work, but it does look like the same dynamic could be at play with Trump—once a modern state gets into a war it’s well-nigh impossible to simply call it quits. And especially not when that involves a surrender of hegemony.

So there we are. Trump goosed the markets on Friday—that much is clear. It remains to be seen how the rest works out.

I’ll close with some relevant remarks that Doug Macgregor made today to Glenn Diesen. Excerpts:

I don’t think President Trump has any idea how dangerous his statements are and how foolish he looks in front of the world and how easily he’s being manipulated by the wrong people.

It’s this parent child relationship that Trump attempts to establish everywhere he goes with everyone and the rest of the world, you know. ‘Well, I told them they have a chance and they want a deal. Well, if they want a deal, they’ll have to do what I say.’

‘Oh, the Iranians are desperate. They want a deal.’ Well, guess what? The Iranians are on a full war footing. Are we? No. And if you’re going to fight them in the region where they live on their doorstep, you better think long and hard about what that means because you’re in for a long fight in a real war. And again, we’re not prepared for that. I don’t give a damn what he says publicly. We’re not. You know, the Navy has now admitted that they have more launchers and more tubes for missiles than they have missiles to fire. He’s out in the open.

This is a Jewish war waged against Iran. I say ‘Jewish’ because it’s by no means exclusively Israeli. It involves the Jewish lobby here in the United States and the massive numbers of billionaires that constitute the backbone of it. They effectively own—lock, stock, and barrel—not just Donald Trump, but the Hill. Mr. Netanyahu when he embarked on this war. This was a war to the finish, he was talking in effectively from the very beginning in scorched earth terms.

Or is this again just talk? Well, you remember the operation in Isfahan where we tried to insert special operations forces with considerable air support and expertise from the CIA and so forth on the grounds that they were within range of plutonium that could be I guess acquired and then spirited out of the country. That ended in disaster. It was covered or concealed, if you will, by this supposed officer who had been shot down that had to be recovered. That was kind of a cover story. And what we discovered was that, in a part of Iran where we thought they would be vulnerable, they didn’t turn out to be vulnerable. And so once again, it was a question of have we underestimated the regime? Have we underestimated the military establishment, its various systems, human and remote? Well, I guess we did. And I think a number of people said—in fact, I know they did—they were grateful that this happened because it put an end to Trump’s fantasy that we could replicate what we did in Venezuela.

You do have people that have talked about Chabahar–seizing that port, because it’s outside of the Gulf, on the theory that if you gained control of Chabahar that would give you leverage over Iran. I haven’t quite figured out what that leverage is, strategically. I think the Iranians would probably take the Russian position. ‘Well, if they’re going to seize Chabahar, we’ll defend it if we can, but if we can’t, we’ll make sure they seize nothing.’ So then are you going to use the ruins of Chabahar as your launchpad for penetrating Iranian airspace once again, with helicopters and B2s, to take control of, say, Bandar Abbas? Or are you going to try to fly from the UAE right across the Gulf? I think everybody’s saying, ‘Wait a minute!’ If you’re looking for something clean, decisive, and effective, this may not be a good option. But I don’t know who’s there. You’ve listened to General Kellogg and General Keane. I think they would probably support any of those options. I don’t know. I assume so. They’ll do whatever in order to widen this war in the hopes that by doing so they can bring Iran to its knees. I don’t see that happening.

 

9 replies
  1. Joe Webb
    Joe Webb says:

    Thank god for Macgregor. Think the other war hero, Dwight Eisenhower who in 1956 forced Israel, France, and England to get out of Suez in their attempt to steal it from Nasser/Egypt. Israel of course was at the time
    a bit player and England and France were total vassals of the US. But then there were The Jews here at home….

    Today the Master-Slave Jew state is much stronger, since it has the US as its proxy, and Trumpstein is a Jew Tool. What is restraining the US hegemony today? Just public opinion writ small in Trumpstein’s psychopathic brain, and, uh, Reality that Iran holds all the cards, from military reality to world public opinion to financial and economic reality that tells this miscreant talkshow fool to go home and count his money and not worry about all those epsteined girls who will dog him to jail….naw, he has said that he could murder somebody and his maga turnips would clap…and World Depression…naw, I can survive anything these little cunts claim about me and I control Wall Street’s Jews, etc.

    Meanwhile the countdown continues to Depression, with stock and bond markets getting very very nervous. What? Trumpstein waves his hand, 5% for the ten year treasury,? I can handle that. King Canute and his order for the waves from the sea to cease rolling in. Actually, Canute knew the waves would continue, and he was trying to show his idiot court that he did not have the power to stop the waves.

    Trump is no Canute and he is no anything, just his own absurd self. Let’s see, maybe I should arrest Jeff Sachs and a couple others as well. Trumpstein and his Magic. May he die soon, before he and the Jews set the world on fire.

    • Paracelsus88
      Paracelsus88 says:

      Well-stated Joe Webb! Macgregor thinks more like you and me than many of the other alternative media figures that many of us admire and follow. I saw Prof. Glenn Diesen’s interview with Col. Macgregor earlier today– Col. Macgregor hits the Jews the hardest that I’ve heard so far.

      Macgregor for President!

      Thank you.

      • Joe Webb
        Joe Webb says:

        Thanks Paracelsus. Yup, DM has the biggest balls and the biggest brain of all the folks on the anti-war/anti-semitic circuit.

        Meanwhile, I just watched Jeffey Sachs on the Hormuz crisis…and yes I guess it is a crisis.
        However, Sachs seems to have the thing boiled down to a contest of wills with two intractable adversaries in a semi -static situation. What is more than just a confrontation of two wills, is the World economic situation ready to blow up mostly in the faces of the fat maniac in the White House and his jew mafia, both in his cabinet and Congress.

        So it it not a static situation and Time is on the side of Tehran. In the news today there was VW having fired about 50,000 workers a few months ago and considering firing another 50,000 soon. AI is in some trouble and the financial pages of jew york times, WSJ, and Financial Times saying nothing about all the straws blowing in the financial winds.

        Mum is the word. Then China today just disciplined its bond and stock markets by degrading bond ratings. Like, I suppose our school grade inflation over the last 20? years, it seems that the official “graders” of Chinese bonds have been too lenient on assessing the safety and worth of Chinese government bonds, or maybe also including private capital firms. An interesting development of how national socialism with Chinese characteristics pays attention to Reality….maybe.

        I live in SF Bay Area. local governments are running deficits (resulting from the free money for mud sliders) and California state bond issues are not making it thru the ballot because of failing to reach the two thirds majority required in California.

        The local papers keep down the bad news on economics. On the Jew front, where I live, there are two local give-away newspapers, one owned by a Jew. The paper not owned by a jew, has almost daily reports on the war with all its bad news. The Jew paper solves its problem of “is it good for the jews?” simply by not reporting anything on the war. Pretty clever.

        Getting back to the economy, all the anti-war folks, who are also paying attention to the economy, plus estabishment types like Warren Buffet see a very big crash coming soon. Trumpstsein is helping bringing it on. Thank you very much. So….Hormuz is going to blow up the world economy…probably. Another gift fromThejews, Give Gawd a hand!

  2. Tim
    Tim says:

    Think like few, speak like many.
    Make happen what really works.
    Transcend metaphysical barriers.

    Disguise the unusual as ordinary.
    Melodies are intervals; a tension
    between familiar and unexpected.

    Our brain is a predictive organ: it
    anticipates which note will come
    next, based on made experiences.

    Melodies correspond to ethnic characte-
    ristics, just as every bird has its own song.
    We recognize our own uniqueness in them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melody

    Death doesn’t seem to care a-
    bout “equality.” It still makes us
    die five years earlier than women.

    In the age of feminist self-libe-
    ration, being born a man feels
    more like burden than blessing.

    A trend of places children in
    nursing homes to familiarize
    the elderly with the youn-
    gest members of society.

    In principle, a good idea—the end of
    life meets the beginning. Although I’m
    not sure if the beginning likes the end.

    But since there’ll soon be only brown
    and black children, who have no roots
    whatsoever in the genetic pool of the
    elderly, I imagine this to be a horror.

  3. Frank
    Frank says:

    After 10/7, dugout Doug came out, quite famously, and said israel wasn’t up to it, that they’d fall apart, couldn’t deploy an army, Gaza would win.
    It was untrue at the time, and certainly proved to be fiction.
    People don’t get into the mainstream unless they have approval, they tell you 95-99% of what you want to hear, and the other bit is the propaganda.
    (Double, triple warnings for ‘FORMER’ officers)
    You would get a very, very different take if you followed pro-Iran Telegram channels. The MOU was an Iranian surrender, ZOG got their oil, after devastating Iran with over 10k bombing sortes, killing it’s top people, and maintaining an offensive military posture right off Iran’s shore-plus, continuing to strike Iran.

    Israel wanted S Lebanon, and got it- bc we isolated Iran from them.

    What’s the harm is being overly positive?
    Well, it’s very very easy to get people to do nothing whrn they believe things will just ‘work themselves out,’ and that the psyop with dugout Doug

  4. Anon
    Anon says:

    So many YouTube personalities have popped up once the Iran war started. Coincidence? Who is this Larry Johnson person? A guy who supposedly worked for the CIA, but now in his late age, suddenly “grew a heart” and wants to help mankind by utilizing his CIA experience? Does anyone really believe this? Johnson, along with Pepe Escobar, in a joint statement said that (even though Johnson and Escobar are a couple of “nobodies”) contacts in the highest levels of the governments of the Middle East and South Asia told them that Iran possesses functional nuclear missiles, and because of this, the Ashkenazim will no longer bomb Iran. But then, the Ashkenazim bombed Iran several times, the latest occurrence being a massive devastating attack. This fact alone makes Escobar and Johnson, in my eyes, 100% non-credible sources.

    Let’s be honest about Iran. Iran has a median IQ of 80, it does not possess hydrogen high-yield nuclear bombs attached to mach ten hypersonic missiles, it does not possess extreme bio/chem weapons attached to mach ten missiles, Iran has a measly population of 90 million, etc. There is no way Iran can defeat the Ashkenazim, who has absolute 100% control and ownership of North, Central, and South America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, etc. Iran is de facto defeated and genocided, along with Lebanon and Palestine.

    Russia is also about to fall due to constant drone attacks by the Ashkenazim. Then China will stand alone, surrounded 360 degrees by enemies. The Ashkenazim have won the evolutionary wars. But, can the Ashkenazim defeat the laws of physics? The laws of physics dictates that all Ashkenazi life must die.

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