Christopher Donovan: The rage isn’t, in fact, about healthcare. Nobody is throwing bricks through windows in defense of insurance companies. Bricks get thrown when people are angry about very fundamental things, like racial displacement.
So, Frank Rich, the Jewish New York Times pundit with a history of white-bashing, is at least half right in the notorious Sunday column that drew 606 reader comments. He is more correct on that point than “Laurie from Bartlett, NH”, a “tea party” sympathizer and one of 606 commenters on the column:
Dangerous piece. Horrified when I read this because this writer obviously has never attended a “tea party” and knows not of what he speaks. The Americans who are giving of their precious time,limited funds and heart wrenching courage should NEVER be demonized and misstated like this.There were 10,000 people in Nevada today,there will be thousands in Boston on 4/14…these are faithful,hardworking,honest Americans. They have seen the takeover of our biggest freemarket institutions by government. They are frightened,concerned and,yes,angry. How dare you misinterpret and misrepresent the message of this great uprising. This has NOTHING to do w/race..it has everything to do with what our fathers,grandfather,greatgrandfathers fought for..LIBERTY!! LIBERTY!! LIBERTY!!!
Laurie from Bartlett, NH
Rich is more correct on the white rage point than even the venerable Pat Buchanan, who weakly suggests in this reaction column that because some non-whites think immigration needs controlling, the “tea party” crowd isn’t necessarily white resistance by another name.
But Laurie is wrong. Pat Buchanan is wrong.
It is about race.
Where I part sharply with Frank Rich, of course, is whether the white anger is justified — and requires organized action by whites to act on that anger. He dreads the prospect, while I cheer it.
But Frank Rich, to my mind, is only part of our problem. ”Laurie from Bartlett, NH” is an equally bedeviling problem for white advocacy. Here’s a (no doubt) conservative white woman who appears to have convinced herself that “This has NOTHING to do w/race…” It instead has to do with “LIBERTY!!” Among the liberating aspects of race realism and white advocacy is the abandonment of the belief that anyone anywhere is motivated by abstractions like “freedom” or “liberty”. Of course, they’re not. Blood and soil is more like it. It seems to me that a more important task for us to persuade “Laurie from Bartlett, NH” to shake herself from slumber and realize what’s really going on. I don’t think debating with Frank Rich will do any good.
There are fewer more disturbing trends than your average white conservative’s hyperventilating that “I’m not a racist” and “race has nothing to do with it — it’s about the free market!” Trust me, white-conservative-in-denial: admitting that race is real — and that whites have legitimate group interests — is like untying that other hand from behind your back.
As a reader service for TOO, I waded through all the comments. Most, disappointingly, cheered Rich on. Some openly disparaged whites, like this likely Jewish commenter:
We can’t say the GOP is not diverse. They run the gamut of white billionaires, white millionaires, white run-of-the mill McMansion “owners”, white trailer inhabitants, white gun nuts, to white oolitical opportunists, etc., etc.,
Anne Green from Columbia, MD
The “conservative” responses all took the tack of “Laurie from Bartlett, NH”: don’t smear us tea party activists as “racists.”
There was, that I saw, a lone pro-white comment:
what a disgusting article. the real people who face discrimination are whites (that is, people of european descent). white students are purposefully rejected from colleges just because of affirmative action for ‘minorities’ (who will very soon become the majority.) meanwhile, white adults are denied jobs just for the color of their skin! this, my friend, is racism.
whites are becoming a minority in the usa, canada, europe, australia, etc. europe will become majority muslim. and yet, it is a sin to want to preserve one’s heritage? in the usa, we have indian groups, asian groups, black groups, but white groups are racist!
it is about time we fight for our rights, and values and culture. it is not racist, everyone else is doing it. it is just fighting against racism and discrimination that is facing whites all over the world.
John from USA
Quite right, John from USA.
As a post-script, I’m doubting that my letter will run in the NYT. Here’s a piece by letters editor Thomas Feyer that sheds light on why. He is, he says, the son of “survivors of Nazism.” Where does this crap end, for God’s sake?
Christopher Donovan is the pen name of an attorney and former journalist. Email him.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Was the Immigration Act of 1924 Illiberal?
The whole kabuki dance of “Whites [or Republicans, tea-partiers, Glenn Beck listeners, Limbots, etc.] are racist!” “Well, I’m not a racist!” “Are too!” “Am not!” “Are too!!” “Am NOT!!” apparently is deeply satisfying to Jews and non-Jews alike, but I just can’t get into it, and never have been able to. It makes me think that racists must be in some sense born, not made. People who protest so much, who can profess to be so profoundly offended at the notion of sticking up for their own race are too far gone, I think, to ever be converted. I suspect the whole project of trying to convert them is a waste of time.
hum, and back here in Europe, state channel portrays the healthcare bill as a good thing and tells americans are glad it was passed
the link in first sentence is not right, remove last three chars
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28rich.htmlrns
Most, disappointingly, cheered Rich on.
Yes, disappointing, these days, usually when NPR or someone floats something out like this there is a strong reaction against – I don’t doubt a lot are ethnic jews but sadly enough most are probably SWPL white people.
PS I was a little disappointed with PB’s reaction- he really should have pulled the gloves off on this one – generally speaking the conservative reaction was ‘Rich is wrong, we’re not racists’ …
I fear this an the positve reaction will only embolden the frank rich’s (and there are a LOT of them – Harold “unamericanly-white republican convention” Meyerson leads a list of 100s)
PSS does anyone know what Frank Rich’s stance on Israel is ?
From Buchanan’s reaction piece:
“68 percent of African-Americans think legal immigration is too high . . . it is leftist elites who detest and wish to be rid of the America they grew up in and love”
This contains profound wisdom. Immigration restriction is the most important short term political goal which needs to be accomplished for the good of our people. We need non-white allies to accomplish this goal, and blacks are the best potential allies.
“Leftist elites” (and “neoconservative elites”) – you do understand Buchanan’s need to speak in code, don’t you? – are the inevitable enemy in the coming struggle over immigration.
Christopher, your article encapsulates the gist of the White racial dilemma. The ideologically damaged Anglo mindset that can’t face the truth about their ethnic identity. They have good instincts, but have misread the racial nature of the conflict. They are so indoctrinated in the toxin of race denial that they hate to lose their “respectability” by being called loaded words like “racist”, or, horror of horrors, a “Nazi”. The Jews have captured the high ground and dictate what’s “acceptable” in the domestic play pen. The ruling alien elites have the captured White milk herd milling about restlessly, taunting them, as a cat does a mouse, as they reduce their numbers, and prepare them for the coming Anglo Holodomor.
Old time “Southern” politician Glenn Miller is shaking things up across the nation with his radio advertisments for the US Senate in Missouri:
Hey, white man. 100 million more dark aliens are coming to America. Google ‘the next hundred million’ for proof. In 1960 white people were 90% of the population. Today, truth be told, we’re less than half. Another 100 million foreign mongrels are on the way. But you don’t care, do ya, whitey?
“All you care about is satisfying your belly, pocketbook and genitals, or watching the coons play ball on television. The future white children will be a nightmare and you don’t care. Your own women and children ought to spit on you every day. Go to whty.org and get involved, and phone me at 417-463-7703.”
If Whty.org is under attack you can read about Glenn Miller’s US Senate campaign here:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=107547&page=16
Miller knows he can’t win, but, he is determined to get the message out.
“I suspect the whole project of trying to convert them is a waste of time.”
Pretty much everything suggested here, Adam, you say is a waste of time. Why do you waste your time posting and reading here?
(Answer for lurkers: Because he’s not, actually, pro-White. What he’s really up to is trying to demoralize us.)
Donovan: “Where I part sharply with Frank Rich, of course, is whether the white anger is justified — and requires organized action by whites to act on that anger. He dreads the prospect, while I cheer it. But Frank Rich, to my mind, is only part of our problem. “Laurie from Bartlett, NH” is an equally bedeviling problem for white advocacy.”
Laurie, who downplays the racial issue because she knows it’s radioactive and can be easily used to crush the Resistance, is as big a problem for whites as Rich, a subversive, Jewish supremacist, white-hating Jewish liberal who propagandizes in the NYT?
Racial concousness is one thing; shouting “white pride” or advocating white racial hegemony is another.
Anyway, I guess how one resists all depends on what their final goal is: the breakup of America and an eventually white homeland carved out of the rump, or retaking America from the Zionists and their (mostly white) collaborators for ALL Americans?
What, exactly, is your goal “Donovan”? And if you’re such a gung ho white nationalist ready to scream “white pride” from the rooftops, why are you still writing with a pen name? Do you lack the courage of your convictions? Perhaps your a typical snake in the grass lawyer, egging on others while you sit in the background weaving your web, rubbing your hands together, and counting your money.
This contains profound wisdom
yes but the elites will ignore the opinion of minorities as well especially since the largest ethnic block – hispanics – are pro immigraiton – at least their activist groups are – as are every ethnic activist group – indians are trying to get more indians in, chinese are trying to get more chinese in, ect.
Side note, I was trying to think of what the motivation behind the FBI raids in the midwest were for, beyond the obvious… and if you look how the media has plastered it all over the place i think the answer is obvious – Obama and the jewish elite are preparing us for “whites are the enemy ‘
“It seems to me that a more important task for us to persuade “Laurie from Bartlett, NH” to shake herself from slumber and realize what’s really going on. I don’t think debating with Frank Rich will do any good.”
NH is still by and large a white utopia. Outside of the cities near Mass. Most NH residents see a non-white about 1 or two times a year, if that. Racial issues do not register because they have only what they have been taught in public schools and the MSM, and zero practical experience.
My guess is that many, many residents of similar white utopias would awaken after experience with the “blessings” of diversity.
Overcoming the white utopia residents “save zone mentality” barrier before the last of the remaining white utopias are destroyed is the real challenge.
It’s a more specific kind of White they’re trying to demonize.
You know, Whites from rural areas, Whites who didn’t vote for Obama, etc.
Who cares if the Teabaggers have hidden, unconscious racial motivations? They’re a bunch of unruly gun-lovin’, tax-hatin’ rednecks. They have nothing to do with Western Civlization. I really don’t think we (Cultivated Race Patriots) should be associating our cause with a bunch of irrational peasants (the media has been doing that for years). And that’s all the Tea Party “movement” is…a peasant revolt. They’re in the position they are in right now because they refuse to think of themselves as white people.
I say let them eat beef jerkey.
Thomas Feyer states in his letter
“Survivors of Nazism and refugees of Communism”
This is the old mentality of
“Stalin was the lesser of two evils”
“National Socialism the biggest threat to mankind”
Wow really sad but not surprising from the NYT.
Guess he never met a German citizen who grew up then. Well I have. Great people. I am one guy who isn’t afraid to stick up for the “Old Germans”
Laurie from Bartlett, NH, may not think it’s about race, but these people certainly do:
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=crash-tea-parties
“I really don’t think we (Cultivated Race Patriots) should be associating our cause with a bunch of irrational peasants”
I have found that it’s an excellent rule of thumb to determine who really is a Race Patriot and who is not by asking the question:
Is he contemptuous of the most vilified subset of White people such that he disparages them as “rednecks” and “a bunch of irrational peasants” who “have nothing to do with Western Civlization”? If the answer is yes, then he is NOT a Race Patriot but a status-seeker and will turn on us the second things get hot for him.
Good article. People need to realise the best defense is a good offense. The approach taken by ‘John from USA’ should be adopted by more people.
btw. Anne Green, MD, is apparently Catholic.
” I grew up Catholic but the church has cured me of “belonging” to anything.”
http://timespeople.nytimes.com/view/user/15475831/activities.html
Barb, we know what the trolls are up to. Their game is so tired it’s almost laughable. But their so convinced that they tower over all in intellectual capacity, never mind the innate arrogance, that they can’t see how ridiculous they’ve become.
we know what the trolls are up to
agreed – think 90% of these come from groups likethe SPLC – we know they monitor this site – and they don’t have the intellectual honesty to have a debate -
one note about frank rich and the comments section of the NYT – it might look skewed, but i suspect that the NYT has started to heavily prune comments – if a reasoned pro white argument slips through it’s by accident – they’ll let inflammatory stuff go through, or a few generic arguments but nothign really challenging -
I noticed this a few years ago on the old alexa rating site- the ADL’s ratings were 1 star and over 90% negative… a few weeks later nearly all the negative ratings disappeared.
the jewish elite does not want any real manifestation of public opinion – it does not work in their favor on ANY issue.
There is absolutely no “up side” to opening up fractures between the fledging tea party movement and the white consciousness demographic (which probably comprises the overwhelming majority of readers of this blog) in order to turn America’s growing contempt for its corrupt and traitorous elite into a racial issue and recruit for harder white nationalism. In fact, that a good way to get all of it strangled in the cradle.
The point that “John” makes as cited by Donovan above is very reasonable, but I fail to see how using terminology like “white resistance” to categorize that viewpoint is productive.
“Trust me, white-conservative-in-denial, admitting that race is real — and that whites have legitimate group interests — is like untying that other hand from behind your back.” Would Whites benefit from (a) eliminating public schools and (b) supporting massive civil disobedience to allow any and all White Europeans to immigrate into the USA and Canada?
“Would Whites benefit from (a) eliminating public schools and (b) supporting massive civil disobedience to allow any and all White Europeans to immigrate into the USA and Canada?”
And the Whites in South Africa, too, of course, and, even, especially.
Hm. I wonder what the chances are that the coming World Cup debacle will be what forces the boil to finally erupt?
As Barb, Drolstudy, and “me” have pointed out, Burt Sirloin is of course a troll. His one-hundred percent wrong “comment” should be ignored if not deleted. He is on the other side and posting here to try to make trouble.
“Perhaps your a typical snake in the grass lawyer, egging on others while you sit in the background weaving your web, rubbing your hands together, and counting your money.”
If only I had money, Chris. If only I had money.
Apologies for calling you a rich lawyer. That was a low blow that no one but a rich lawyer deserves.
While we are taking on the topic of Christopher Donovan: Frank Rich is Right About One Thing | The Occidental Observer – White Identity, Interests, and Culture, “paying it forward.” You’ve heard of that, haven’t you? If not, do a web search for it and you’ll see what I mean.