The Political Ideas of Anders Behring Breivik

Kevin MacDonald

A quite clear picture of Anders Behring Breivik emerges from this collection of his online posts. I thought the following quotes were reasonably representative; they are edited slightly for English usage.

These snippets portray a Geert Wilders-type of cultural conservative, very opposed to ethnocentrism as a strategy, very positive about the Vienna School, staunchly pro-Israel (which he sees as beset by militant Islam), and very hostile toward Islam—what in the U.S. is called a neoconservative. Breivik sees Islam as eventually taking over Europe via differential fertility if nothing is done, noting historical data on other areas (e.g., Turkey, Lebanon, Kosovo). Based on his reading of history, he believes that the triumph of Islam would unleash horrific repression and violence against Europeans and against all manifestations of traditional European culture. It would be the end of European civilization based on Christianity and ordered liberty.

He also has a 1500-page book, titled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, suggesting his actions were intended to call attention to himself as a way of publicizing the book and maximizing its impact. See also the (very powerful) video below which is based on the ideas of the book. The video images strongly suggest that he identifies with historical figures like Charles Martel who fought to prevent the Muslim conquest of Europe in previous centuries. Note the many photos of Christian knights battling Islam (suggesting he sees Christianity [correctly] as a historically powerful force for the preservation of Europe rather than mainly about religious faith) and (at the very end) photos of himself in military dress and armed with automatic weapons.

In general, it must be said that he is a serious political thinker with a great many insights and some good practical ideas on strategy (e.g., developing culturally conservative media, gaining control of NGOs. and developing youth organizations that will confront the Marxist street thugs). (Parenthetically, during a recent lecture tour of Sweden, I was struck by the elaborate security procedures that were taken out of fear of physical beatings by “Communists,” described to me as typically the children of leftist elites. It is no exaggeration to say that racially conscious Scandinavians feel physically intimidated.) It could well be that Breivik’s silence on Jewish hostility toward Europe and the West and his rejection of ethnocentrism (see here) are motivated by his strategic sense. 


In the excerpts below, note his hostility toward the Frankfurt School which he identifies with cultural Marxism, but never mentions that the Frankfurt School is a Jewish intellectual movement; nor does he mention the anti-European, anti-Christian attitudes that pervade Jewish elites in the West—as noted in Paul Gottfried’s recent vdare article and repeatedly emphasized here. He notes the failure of “ethnocentric strategies”  but ignores the role of Jewish intellectual elites  in pathologizing expressions of ethnocentrism by Europeans since WWII (particularly the Frankfurt School) and in combating the scientific basis of the legitimacy of racial/ethnic interests (Boasian anthropology; the video identifies cultural Marxism with cultural relativism, one of the main thrusts of the Boasian school). He is also highly critical of the media (without noting that the  Norwegian media is controlled by a Swedish/Jewish family). In my experience, racially conscious Scandinavians are quite aware of Jewish media control. Again, these may be tactical moves, although I rather doubt it.

In any case, he is certainly right in characterizing multiculturalism as an ideology of hate. Note particularly his anger at the action of the Labour Party in England in opening the gates of immigration in order “to humiliate the right-wing opponents of immigration.” As he notes in several places, multiculturalism is hatred of Europeans and their culture masked by humanism.

It remains to be seen what the long term effect of his actions will be. There is certainly great revulsion at the murder of young people. However, I suppose it is possible that in the long run European elites will understand that the glorious multicultural future will not be attained without a great deal of bloodletting (including themselves and, as in this case, their children) and realize they will have to change their ways. Indeed, one of his insights is that in the long run “the multi-cultural neocolonial regimes will either have imploded or have become very Stalinist.” I agree.

The fear is that Breivik’s actions are more likely to result in Stalinism in the immediate future than to lessen the grip of the forces of evil.

Anders Behring Breivik:

50 years of efforts by the ethnocentric organizations / movements (from 1960-2009) have failed completely. We know this and further focus, illumination of these strategies will only be counter-productive and potentially very damaging to the current Norwegian and European cultural conservative movement.

Ethnocentric movements like the BNP and National Front are not successful and will never be able to get over 10% support (GDP [i.e., the BNP] 5%, the UN [National Front] has 7%). One can not fight racism (multikulti) with racism. Ethnocentrism is therefore the complete opposite of what we want to achieve.

We have selected the Vienna School of Thought as the ideological basis. This implies opposition to multiculturalism and Islamization (on cultural grounds). All ideological arguments based on anti-racism.

This has proven to be very successful which explains why the modern cultural conservative movement / parties that use the Vienna School of Thought are so successful: the Progress Party, Geert Wilders, document and many others.

Ethnocentrism is contrary to the principles of the Vienna School of Thought which is why you surely have been censored in the past.

I have worked several years for the Progress Party and guarantee you that the Progress Party had less than 10% support if they had not chosen Vienna School of Thought as an ideological basis.

Yes, we will defeat the multiculturalism / kulturmarxisme finally (as it is very discriminatory and racist). But we must do it in the correct ideological grounds. …

I got the impression that the younger generations in Oslo do not quite manage to see the political context here. They see the racist attack but do not fully understand that this is Jihad (political / cultural attacks). They repay what they perceive as racism with racism.

My hope is that they will see the cultural / political context, but one should not ignore the fact that the new generations of young people are going in the direction of ethnocentrism.

Young people need solutions, and currently there are no anti-racist youth cultural conservative options. Some people choose the options that exist, that is, the ethnocentric. …

I have only been politically active for 13 years. I am førstegenerasjonsdhimmi (Generation Y). I was active in the Oslo FrP / FpU in the first 6-7 years (in the cultural conservatives + laissez faire capitalist / liberal camp) and contributed to the Progress Party’s success before I stopped. I felt my time was better spent helping to develop / promote the political doctrines abroad especially British, German, French, American). I ran a business a few years while I studied and earned a few million so I could finance a inntektsløs politically active life. I now use these funds to be able to work full time to further develop / promote the Vienna Academy (Vienna School of Thought) that Fjordman, Bat Yeor, Spencer + many others have already contributed so much to. The last three years I worked full time as a cultural conservative working to help further develop / promote these political doctrines further.

Anyway, I consider the future consolidation of the cultural conservative forces on all seven fronts as the most important in Norway and in all Western European countries. It is essential that we work to ensure that all these 7 fronts using the Vienna School of Thought, or at least parts of the grunlag for 20-70 year-struggle that lies in front of us.

The book is called, by the way 2083 and is in English, 1100 pages).

To sum up the Vienna school of thought:

– Cultural Conservatism (anti-multiculturalism)
– Against Islamization
– Anti-racist
– Anti-authoritarian (resistance to all authoritarian ideologies of hate)
– Pro-Israel/forsvarer of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries
– Defender of the cultural aspects of Christianity
– To reveal the Eurabia project and the Frankfurt School (ny-marxisme/kulturmarxisme/multikulturalisme)
– Is not an economic policy and can collect everything from socialists to capitalists

The Frankfurt School (kulturmarxisme) is a very ambitious unofficial ideology (and quite unknown to most); they have succeeded in most areas (except to smash capitalism, European Christianity and European identity, traditions, culture). The Vienna school is more a defense against this where we often use the Marxists’ own creations against them (sexual liberation, feminism, liberalism, anti-racism, anti-authoritarian arguments).

The Vienna School of Thought is far from a complete ideology but consists of principles and ideas that are constantly under development. …

There is not necessarily a very big difference between controllers and dominators. The common denominators in all historical case are dhimmitude + demographic warfare. Are non-Muslims on Furuset, Holmlia [areas of Oslo] today dhimmis? Yes, of course they are. Why do you think they systematically choose to move [away]?

Why do you think Furuset, Holmlia and other areas in Oslo will soon be emptied of non-Muslims? Enklaviseringen in Oslo East continues slowly but surely every day.

For those words must have it with a teaspoon (this may be fine with a small demographic history reminder now and then):

Kosovo demographical development [1]:

1900 40% Islam
1913 50%
1925 60%
1948 72%
1971 79%
1981 85%
2008 93%



Lebanon demographical development – (Christian/Muslim pop)[1]:

1911 – 21% Islam
1921 – 45%
1932 – 49%
1943 – 48%
1970 – 58% (Civil war 1975–1990 started when Islam reached 60%)
1990 – 65% (Christians lost the war)
2008 – 75%


1. Tomass Mark, Game theory with instrumentally irrational players: A Case Study of Civil War and Sectarian Cleansing, Journal of Economic Issues, Lincoln; June 1997.


Source 1

1948 85% Christians[1]
2006 12% Christians[1]

Source 2

1948 – 60% Christians[2]
1983 – 20% Christians[2]



Anatolia (Turkey)

1300 – 99% Christians
1450 – 90% (3 years before the fall of Constantinople)
1600 – 55%
1850 – 35% (Genocide/forceful conversions intensifies)
1900 – 20%
1920 – 15%
1945 – 6% (Focus shifts to persecution of Muslim Kurds)
1980 – 3%
2009 – 1%

2. See all sources from Historic Balkan and Anatolia demographics

Syria [1]

1920 – 33% Christians
2007 – 10% (would be less than 5% if it weren’t for Christian immigration from Iraq).


Pakistan (Hindu/Muslim population) [1]

1941 – 25% Hindus
1948 – 17%
1991 – 1,5%
2007 – 1%

Bangladesh (Hindu/Muslim population) [1]

1941 – 30% Hindus
1948 – 25%
1971 – 15%
1991 – 10%
2007 – 8%

2008 – Numbers and percentages of Muslims in many European cities (legal/illegal including city suburbs)[1][2][3]:

Marseilles 38%
Malmö 35%
Brussels 35%
Amsterdam 30%
Stockholm 20%
London 20%
Paris 20%
Oslo 20%
Moscow 16-20%
Berlin 18%
The Hague 17%
Copenhagen 17%
Utrecht 15%
Rotterdam 15%
Antwerp 15%
Hamburg 15%


3. notes that Brussels is 25.5% Muslim

Hva er så fellesnevneren i alle disse historiske tilfellene?

Islam + dhimmitude + demografisk krigføring [demographic warfare] (Jihad)…

This is only the beginning of a protracted campaign of psychological warfare against the Swiss people. The worst of all, it works very effectively, as we saw in Austria a few years ago. The Swiss people will succumb to demonization, as Østerikerne and Serbs before them.

The fact that cultural Marxism controls the Euro / U.S. MSM, 95% of NGOs and 80% of the political parties is perhaps the main reason that we must expect to struggle with multiculturalism (kulturmarxisme) and the Islamization of at least 20-70 years.

Until this happens, the Hårstad points out further polarization between kulturmarxistene (elites) and the cultural conservatives (the people). Muslims make today 20-25% of the Oslo and similar areas in other European capitals. 50-60% is the magic enklaviseringsgrensen and there are several cities that gradually approach this. Marseilles is the worst example in Western Europe at the moment with 38% Muslims. The city will have a Muslim majority within 20 years. It is thus conceivable that the battle for Islam’s future in Europe will unfold in France within 20 years. Perhaps the consequence will be that France breaks out of the nåværeden U.S. / Euro dominated multiculturalism wonderful world order and seeks a new political alliance with Russia and some other mini-nations (hopefully followed by several European nations).

20 years earlier, my bet (70 years maximum). So change will come, guaranteed, we just have to be a little patient. …

We know by the way all of what happened to the Christians Marxists in Lebanon. Lebanon was once a Christian country (80% in 1911). When the Muslims were in majority in 1970 (an increase of 40% in just 60 years), they declared war. The reason that they were in that situation was due to the Marxist appeasement policy (they allowed demographic warfare). Marxists thought that they would get an extra special dhimmi status, which of course did not happen. There are now fewer than 25% Christians in Lebanon and even the Christian Marxists are living in a difficult situation. Do you really think you will get a special dhimmi status in few decades in Western Europe when all the historical examples show that Christians Marxists being stabbed in the back end again and again? …

Most people here have nothing against Muslims in general, Muslims who do not follow the Quran that is. It is the political doctrine of Islam is the problem.

The problem is that key Islamic concepts such as al-taqiyya and naskh (Quranic abrogation) makes it more or less impossible to distinguish “moderate Muslims” (individuals who do not follow the Quran) from orthodox Muslims. …

Mini-nations such as Norway have never pursued an independent, sovereign foreign policy.

They, however, have always followed the big three European heavyweights — France, UK, Germany, to the letter. In other words, Norway has always copied these heavyweights and will always do so.

It is like comparing Belarus and Russia. We will always be Belarus, and Russia is our three tigers.

The UK is no different from Germany and France. They have all chosen multiculturalism. The fact that the UK is wary of the EU is not about multikulti but more motivated by the idea hat the UK will continue to have a special relationship with the U.S. (which is also 100% multikulti).

The only “Western” nations that refused to implement multikulti are Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and partly Finland.

Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have been protected from the EU / US ‘s witch hunt because they are not Europeans.

If they had been Europeans, they would have been demonized as Nazis, fascists and racists.

Why Norway is “more European” than the EU has something to do with “Little Man Syndrome”. It can be likened to “converts to Islam.” They are often much more fundamentalist than even conservative Arab Muslims because they themselves feel they have much to prove (the “Little Man Syndrome”)….

Before one at all can begin to discuss [the Arab-Israeli] conflict, one must first agree on the fundamental truths of Islam’s political doctrine.

Most people here have great insight on key Muslim concepts like al-taqiiya (political deceit), naskh (Quranic abrogation) and Jihad. The problem is that kulturmarxists refuses to recognize these concepts.

They can not recognize these key Muslim concepts. For if they do so, it erodes the primary argument that Israel is a “racist state” and that this is a race war (Israelis vs. Arabs) and not defense against Jihad (Kafr vs. Ummah).

The cultural Marxists choose to ignore the  fact that there are 40 different Jihad Fronts (wars) throughout the world. For them, Jihad does not exist. For them, these 40 ethnic fronts (40 race wars) have nothing to do with Islam. …

It is wonderful to reflect on the fact that multiculturalism is a self-destructive ideology. The European cultural conservative movement is small at the moment, but we are growing every day. And within 70 years, it’s time for regime change in Europe. At that point, the multi-cultural neocolonial regimes will either have imploded or have become very Stalinist.

Before that, we must focus on the following:

1. Creating a cultural conservative newspaper with national distribution
2. Regaining control of several NGOs
3. Develop and consolidate the cultural conservative intellectual movement
4. Build an “EDL” [English Defense League] type of youth….

The problem is that many kulturmarxists actually care very little about religious freedom and human rights. They are driven by contempt and hatred for the cultural conservatives, for European cultures, etc. Many are hiding behind the false doctrines of human rights and religious freedom because these ideas serve as the perfect obfuscation of their true motives.

Where have they been for the past 20 years with regard to criticism of Islam? Why have they been totally absent in this area? They have however, spent much of their time attacking Christianity …

It is very difficult to deal with individuals who deliberately use deception to advance their agenda. Kulturmarxism has for 40 years been hiding behind humanistic principles when their real agenda was to crush the European tradition, culture, identity and sovereignty of nations. All in the name of human rights …

You cannot have a dialogue if one side is deliberately lying, again and again. …

National Socialism has always been an extreme left ideology. Then why do they try constantly to strategically place it on the right?…

Funny to see every single European cultural Marxist “foam around the mouth” of hatred against Denmark and Italy—the only Western European countries that have a hint of wise leadership. …

People must learn what multiculturalism’s wonderful doctrines will do to Europe:

Systematic breakdown:

– European Christianity
– European tradition
– European Cultures
– European (national) identity
– Sovereignty

Of course, it is known that kulturmarxistene and humanists in Europe think they are going to reform Islam. But they will fail like all before them have. For our part, the cultural conservatives and anti-Marxist liberal, must focus on the basic problem: multiculturalism (kulturmarxisme) and how to combat this hate ideology. …

Four important tasks we have to work on the next twenty years are the following:

1. Have in place a cultural conservative newspaper with national distribution (which will be the only newspaper that will support the Progress Party in 4 years). For believe me, the Progress Party is going to be sabotaged and torpedoed.  Their voter base of 35% will be “scared” down to 20%.

2. Develop an alternative to the violent extreme Norwegian Marxist organizations Blitz / SOS Racism / Red Youth. This can for example be done by supporting the development of SIOE. Conservatives dare not currently air their views on the street when they know that extreme Marxists will club them down. We can not accept that Labour subsidize these violent “Stoltenberg Art” that systematically terrorize political conservatives.

3. Working to gain control of 10-15 NGOs (kulturmarxists controls currently 10-15 while we only have 2-3).

4. Initiate a partnership with the conservative forces within the Norwegian Church. I know that the liberal forces within the European anti-Jihad movement (Bruce Bawer, among others, and some other liberals) will have a problem with this but the conservative forces within the church are actually some of our best allies. Our main opponents are not the Jihadists but the facilitators—namely multiculturalists.

A nightmare scenario as I see it is if multiculturalists do an “Ataturk” in Western Europe. The result would be a long and painful death for Europe, as in Lebanon. … A Muslim population can restrain itself under an authoritarian regime to demand Sharia 100 years (or more) in the future as soon as the possibility presents itself. This ability for continued Islamic demographic warfare is going to end in disaster. …

Labour wants mass immigration to engineer multicultural UK, says former Blair and Straw adviser.

Labour threw open Britain’s borders to mass immigration to help socially engineer a “truly multicultural” country, a former Government adviser has revealed.

The former Labour adviser said the Government opened up UK borders partly to humiliate Right-wing opponents of immigration.

This proves therefore that some of the motivation for mass immigration is not based on humanism (a cloak) but more due to direct hatred of people with conservative values like us, the cultural conservatives. A large part of them hate all Europeans and want to destroy Europe through multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is an anti-European hate ideology designed to destroy European culture / traditions, identity, Christianity and national sovereignty. The goal is a utopian Marxist superstate. To accomplish this, the first all European culture must be annihilated. Of course there are genuine humanists (who are suicidally naive) but I suspect that a larger proportion of them are cultural Marxists (multiculturalists) with hateful intentions. …

We should immediately work towards joint establishment of a cultural conservative major newspaper (paper / online national distribution).

I know many of the Progress Party and know that there are strong forces there that want to develop “Progress,” the Progress Party newspaper. I also know of several cultural conservative investors.

What about working to consolidate the Progress of document (may + Get funding from strategic investors?

Call the newspaper: “Conservative” as the only cultural conservative media company in Norway. …

Primary Doctrines:

Critical of multiculturalism (Anti-kulturmarxistisk)
Pro Progress Party (maybe right)
Pro Israel (+ support for Armenia, Christian Copts / Maronite / Assyriere, cultural conservative Indians, support for the establishment of a Christian state in Biafra, Southern Nigeria and support to the establishment of a Christian state in Sudan, support for Russian / Thailand / Philippines / China + fighting Jihad)
Critical of  kulturmarxistiske media (all)
Pro free market
Pro Christian …

Kulturmarxistene managed to bargain crucial popular platforms that secured them victory:

– Sexual Liberation (weakening of the church / morals / patriarchy / nuclear family / birth rates)

– Feminism — positive and negative effects (weakening of the church / patriarchy / nuclear family / birth rates)

– Rights of workers — positive aspects

– Drug / alcohol / party of liberation (weakening of the nuclear family / moral / birth rates)

– Multi-Culturalism—sold in as the introduction of exciting offers / food / experiences (negative aspects: mass immigration, Islam, ghettofication-> enklavisering, crime-murder / rape / robbery / violence, weakening of the identity / culture / unit / nation etc.. )

Too much of these elements (with a few exceptions) will help to draw us towards a Marxist utopia (chaos).

The only pragmatic thing we can do is work on cultural conservative consolidation in the next 10/20/30/40 year so that we can avail ourselves of the window that will surely open up (Fjord Man scenario.) …

Four weeks of Jihad in Gøteborg, Sweden. European media companies are refusing to report. This case and the Muslim riots in United Kingdom (also categorically ignored by 90% of journalists) could have influenced the Norwegian election. How can a democracy work when 98% of Western European journalists openly sympathize with “cultural Marxism”? These deliberate “media blackouts” are authoritarian in nature. …

The problem is that the assumptions for the discussion is not present in Norway and Western Europe. We, the cultural conservatives, are already being branded as fascists / racists / Nazis by the political and media establishment because we dare to criticize multiculturalism (cultural Marxism) which is totally unacceptable. It is as bad as the persecution of the Jews for 30 years or under the Inquisition. No / very few thus wish to share the solution-oriented ideas / concepts in an open forum at this stage as this can help to stigmatize people further in the future. …

The main focus should be on an intellectual platform consolidation of European cultural conservative organizations / individuals. This alliance should have as its main focus to de-legitimize multiculturalism (cultural Marxism) of the “European ideology of hate” it actually is. Its purpose (or indirect result) is known to completely destroy western civilization, nation-states, Western culture / norms / traditions, Christianity – European / Norwegian identity. …

I encourage you to read books that explain the ideology multiculturalism, Frankfurt School and its origin. You can for example start with the book “Defeating Eurabia”.

The main problem in Western Europe is that there is only one accepted alternative, namely PC (PC = cultural Marxism / multiculturalism).

Those who dare to criticize multiculturalism (and supporting cultural conservative views) are now branded as fascists / Nazis / racists. The problem is that the doctrines which form the basis of political correctness will not or can not allow alternative ideas and are thus very intolerant.

Progress Party is a victim of this intolerance. …

The question you should ask yourself is, if cultural differences were too great for the Christian Norwegians and Swedish Christians to live together, how can we expect that Norwegians and Somalis can live together peacefully?

The ideology of multiculturalism (cultural Marxism) is an anti-European hate ideology whose purpose is to destroy European culture, identity and Christianity in general. I equate making multiculturalism with the other hate ideologies: Nazism (anti-Jewish), communism (anti-individualism) and Islam (anti-Kafr).

Japan, South Korea and Taiwan refused to implement multiculturalism (the only three Western countries that still have monokulturalisme). They argued that “societal Cohesion” is synonymous with harmony within a society. They still look with amazement at this strange European experiment. …

Such cases must be considered together with similar cases where the media consistently ignores issues related to Muslim riots.

All remember the July riots in Marseilles and other French cities where the media were instructed not to report the news.

One can only wonder how many riots have been in France or other countries that we have never heard of. A trend is developing in Western Europe where there is full acceptance that the media can suppress such cases.

Estimated damage from the July riots in France: 800-1500 burnt-out cars, dozens of buildings burnt out, several people injured (including police officers). Not a single article in the MSM. I called both TV2 and NRK but they thought it was not “news worthy” … Maybe not so strange when 90-95% of all European journalists are in favor of multiculturalism and do not want to contribute to the injury “integration process” by conveying the truth.

This is a very frightening development and documents further how the media serves as propaganda machinery for multiculturalism.

The orders of “media blackout” have been strictly applied. Le Monde refused to respond, citing “ministerial instructions.” “Yesterday morning, every journalist who came, even for the smallest piece of news, to the firemen, or gendarmes or police, heard the same answer: ‘No fires’. In fact, the truth is quite different. Some of those we questioned admitted under their breath: ‘We cannot say anything about the fires. We have received orders.” In Lyons, the daily Le Progrès reports the same blackout: “Orders not to speak to the press were given to firemen, gendarmes and police.” …

I strongly doubt that your theory is correct. The whole conflict between the BNP and EDL started with a change of leadership in the EDL for a few months ago. They threw out the racist and denounced the BNP. They chose instead an ideological basis for SIOE that is more or less a mainstream view on the right side in Western Europe now (Vienna School of Thought).

Nick [Griffin] was very offended and began to demonize the EDL. Although they are now attacking each other, they don’t compete at all as these are two quite different fronts. 90% of all votes in the EDL continued BNP (since this is the only alternative to multikulti in the UK) and 90% of BNP support the EDL regardless of what Nick thinks. …

The tactics of the EDL are now out to “entice” an overreaction from Jihad Youth / Extreme-Marxists—something they have succeeded in several times already. The reaction has been repeatedly shown on the news which has boosted the EDL. This has also benefited BNP. Win-Win for both.

But I must say I am very impressed with how quickly they have grown. This has to do with smart tactical choice by management.

The EDL is an example and a Norwegian version is the only way to prevent Flash / SOS to harass Norwegian cultural conservatives from other fronts. Creating a Norwegian EDL should be No. 3 on the agenda after we have started up a cultural conservative newspaper with national distribution.

The agenda of the Norwegian cultural conservative movement over the next 5 years therefore consists of the following:

1. Newspaper with national distribution
2. Working for the control of several NGOs
3. Norwegian EDL

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414 Comments to "The Political Ideas of Anders Behring Breivik"

  1. Bruce Graeme's Gravatar Bruce Graeme
    August 2, 2011 - 11:50 am | Permalink

    Ulf Larsen wrote: “He is strongly anti NS and only a cultural nationalist, that is a denier of the importance of biological race. ” July 24, 2011 – 5:06 am

    Joe Webb wrote: “He is fixated, refuses socio-biology, science, and what we call bioculture. He has it totally back-asswards. He thinks Ideas come first, which is nonsense. ” July 25, 2011 – 12:25 am

    In 1947 Francis Parker Yockey wrote his magnum opus “Imperium.” In this book Yockey argues for the preservation of Western culture. However, he claims that the concept of race is the result of imposing a thought method adapted to material problems on to living things, and thus materialistic:

    “race is not a matter of stock, color, anatomy, skeletal structure, or anything else objective…. The mistake of Gobineau, Chamberlain, Grant consists in regarding racial realities as rigid, existing rather than becoming…. Safeguarding the purity of the race in a purely biological sense is sheer materialism…. They were ignoring the connections of race and history, race and spirit…. The quality of having race has no connection with which race one feels community…. There are numerous intellectuals in the West who feel community with the idea of Asiatic Nihilism.”

    According to him, race in its true sense is a matter of strong character, self-discipline, honor, ambition, renunciation of weakness, striving after perfection, superiority, leadership: factors that make up “the organic unity of a High Culture.” What matters is the cultural force and assimilative force!

    He explains that up until 1933, America had taken up into its race many millions of immigrants from Europe and from the Balkans. The newcomers disappeared as a group. The essence of the ingress of the alien into the proper racial body is his total absorption into the new idea, his complete adoption of the new plane of existence, his total loss of the old existence. The newcomers disappeared as a group. Assimilation is the demise of a group qua group. The bloodstream of the individuals comprising it continues, but the group is gone. As long it was a group, it was foreign.

    However, he continues, although mere race cannot prevent assimilation of a new stock from outside (physical differences are no barrier to assimilation), there are cases where this assimilation does not occur. They are the cases where there is a cultural bar between the two populations. While mere race cannot prevent assimilation of new stock from outside, cultural barriers will. Certain numbers must of course be present for an alien group to maintain its identity within the body of a culturally-alien host. A tiny group could not so preserve itself. It is the numbers that create racial questions. If a tiny group is involved, it will disappear; if a group of significant numbers is present, separated by a Cultural barrier from the surrounding population, it will not.

  2. Arvoredo's Gravatar Arvoredo
    July 31, 2011 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    People like bishop Richard Williamson and David Irving dialogue are very important, serving as inspiration for such high profile figures as Anders Behring Breivik.

  3. Noname's Gravatar Noname
    July 30, 2011 - 8:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m watching a movie I was hoping never to come back.
    Norway brought it back.

    It’s not a Islam issue, it’s a pure COMMUNISM issue.
    It’s a come back of the Cold War.
    The communist don’t have any God. Not even Allah.
    Their god is the party activist.

    Norway imported Iranians and these guys hijacked their Left Party.
    On that island there was a pure communist meeting.
    Who doesn’t believe his ears or eyes should find out more about Ali Esbati.
    Something extremely evil is happening in that country.
    As I said, it’s not an anti-Islam issue:

    It’s a pure anti-communism issue.

  4. July 28, 2011 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Bravo Curmudgeon,on the basis of speaking with five refugee families,you became the ultimate authority on all things regarding the former Yugoslavia.I was born and raised there and I always find it amusing when someone from the west (where people basically havent a clue as to their own history)lectures me on what transpired there and why.Both royalist and communist Yugoslavia were in Greater Serbia where the Serbs were the ruling and privilged nation in the country and ruled the country with the help of the army and police.In 1986,for example,66 % of the uniformed police and upwards of 80 % of the secret police in Zagreb,the Croat capital,were Serbs.That fact alone should speak volumes.What transpired in both Yugoslavias was the Serbianization of non-Serbs by means of massacre,expulsion and immigration,where in the decades following WW II,for example, hundreds of thousands of Croats were forced to seek their bread in the West as they were second-class citizens in their own country.Thats one of the reasons why the death rate exceeds the birth rate in Croatia.The murder or death in camps in Serbia of nearly 70 thousand members of the German minority ,8000 of them children,and the expulsion of most of the over half-million Germans from Yugoslavia is thoroughly documented,as is the fate of other non-Serbs(any historically literate individual would for example have predicted the Montenegrin proclamtion of independence).Its important to point out that history was systematically falsified in communist Srboslavia and that the national consciousness of non-Serbs was in large part destroyed by various methods.Most people in former Yugoslavia as a result have no idea of actual history and were in the dark as to the real nature of Serb mentalityAs someone once said,the best revenge of a totalitarian system is what it leaves behind-intellectual and spiritual darkness.Ironically,if there had been no war,Croats within six-seven years would probably have ceased to exist as a nation and as the result of decades of Serbianization “Yugoslavenization” and communism wuld have probably become some type of Serboslav,as goes the joke in Croatia.To close,the real face of Serb politics in the past century,in the words of Serb Aleksandar Ranković,head of the secret police, in his speech to the Belgrade parliament,carried in the daily “Politika” of 1. Feb. 1951:”Between 1945 and 1951 through our jails there passed 3,777,776 persons and we liquidated 586,000 enemies of the people”.The majority of those “liqiudated” were Croats.Thus far in Slovenia,Croatia and Bosnia alone nearly 2,000 mass graves containing the victims of communist terror,primarily killed by Serb communist units,have been found.In former Yugoslavia,many of those murdered,particularily those thrown into rivers and waterways were,filmed and passed off as “victims of the fascists”.

  5. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    July 28, 2011 - 3:55 am | Permalink

    @ Jin … Thank you for responding.

    There are too many comments responding to this article, causing many of the best to get overlooked (buried) in the untidy undergrowth created (deliberately) by our usual and tiresome NeoCon suspects: Jason Squeaks, Scooter, and Someday.

    A simple search of this comments thread will reveal 12 hits (not counting my 2) for Scooter, 6 for Someday, and over 33 for Jason Speaks! Are you getting the picture yet? This problem has been contaminating The Occidental Observer since January 2011 (if not earlier).

    July 27, 2011 – 7:52 pm | Permalink
    Response to: Anglo Saxon (July 27, 2011 – 12:30 pm)

    1) Unless you’re a forensic structural engineer that visited the Oslo bomb scene then your own assertions are completely unfounded. Visit YouTube or LiveLeak and watch what the Taliban are able to do with small truck or car bombs.

    Dear Jin. I don’t need to visit YouTube or LiveLeak. I have spent time in Baghdad, and know what being close to bomb explosions is like. I was once also very near to a car bomb that went off in Bangkok (a successful assassination) but that was when I was much younger.

    The point I was making earlier, which you may have misinterpreted, was that to make a bomb of the power seen in Oslo, using Fertilizer as the main element, would require a huge volume of material. The Lame-stream media have claimed (as confirmed by Prof. MacDonald) that Anders Behring Breivik is alleged to have assembled a bomb from Fertilizers he had previously stored at ‘his’ farm. This allegation must be a lie, because it is practically impossible to get a fertilizer bomb of such explosive power into a government building, undetected. It is simply too much material. If it were true, then Breivik would have to have had the aid of several accomplices.

    Consequently, I would like to politely suggest you stop wasting your own good intelligence on this issue. Check every fact given to you like a forensics expert, before swallowing it!!

    2) While Anders wandered the island he tricked groups of people at various times into thinking he was a legitimate police offer. While he was killing people he was also roaming around the island and sewing confusion. There wasn’t one unified picture as to what was occurring in real time as far as the victims were concerned, and this is backed 100% by their own testimony after the fact. As one would expect the island was permeated by adrenaline dumps, panic, terror, and a thick cloud of confusion.

    Exactly. So, why are you writing with such certainty and authority about exactly who was shooting who? Were you there? Sounds like you are overdosing on speculation to me. As I have already written in an earlier comment, there is corroborated evidence there was MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER. Just give this matter a couple more weeks and I am confident this will be confirmed as fact.

    Please visit www-dot-tarpley-dot-net and downloaded his MP3 audio files where he provides a cogent analysis of this FALSE FLAG event in Oslo, along with informed guesses as to who planned & executed it. Mr. Tarpley is pointing to sinister groups within NATO as being responsible, and is quoting GLADIO as the precedent.

    Do you know anything about GLADIO? Look it up, as you will never make proper sense of Oslo until you do.

    As far as the crash at Smolensk is concerned, I am inclined to think that this was a large scale political assassination of Poland’s entire Eurosceptic branch of government (a literal Katyn II). I don’t have any evidence to back that, however the level of outright deceit, corruption, and total lack of a proper modern and transparent investigation is very well documented.

    Dear Jin. We are in full agreement with each other regarding the unfortunate events at Smolensk. Let us move forward on this!

    Best wishes,

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 28, 2011 - 12:59 pm | Permalink

      Thankyou Anglo-Saxon.I have recognized these NEOCONSERVATIVSEM and have been attacked by them and they even subjected my beautiful girl friend to the vilest insult in a typical Judeo-Christian manner.They attempt to drive others who don’t share there regurgetated FOX NEWS,Limbaugh,Savage, type superficialities away.

  6. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    July 28, 2011 - 3:20 am | Permalink

    The American National Rifle Association has a good answer to this one. The armed citizen can be there when it matters – The likely response in Norway is likely to be disarm everyone, making it easier for criminals.

  7. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    July 28, 2011 - 1:32 am | Permalink

    “No tears for the children of the anti-white, pro-immigration Labour Party elite.”

    – nonamer

    It has been days since this psychopathic comment was posted. Not only is it still here, there is a large number of newer ones that are very much like it.



    A person can understand lashing out at multi-cult promoting lefties after the years of abuse that they have piled on pro whites .
    But , if we have to resort to supporting ” no tears” for dead kids of any political persuasion , then they have won already.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 28, 2011 - 3:18 am | Permalink

      John, did you get a chance to review the links I posted refuting the Kennedy video?

  8. Juan de la O's Gravatar Juan de la O
    July 28, 2011 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    He – and his backers – are certainly no better than the right side of this 1982 equation [which took place multiple times in other areas of the country].

    I sense that most commenters have had no direct experience, which is good but minimizes understanding.

  9. Jimmy's Gravatar Jimmy
    July 27, 2011 - 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Ah, by August this episode will be long forgotten. No need for the ShLeft to spin anything. Where is Norway?

  10. Gary Showalter's Gravatar Gary Showalter
    July 27, 2011 - 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Say what you want about him…he sacrificed himself for his beliefs. I respect him on that level.

  11. Jin's Gravatar Jin
    July 27, 2011 - 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Response to: Anglo Saxon (July 27, 2011 – 12:30 pm)

    1) Unless you’re a forensic structural engineer that visited the Oslo bomb scene then your own assertions are completely unfounded. Visit YouTube or LiveLeak and watch what the Taliban are able to do with small truck or car bombs.

    2) While Anders wandered the island he tricked groups of people at various times into thinking he was a legitimate police offer. While he was killing people he was also roaming around the island and sewing confusion. There wasn’t one unified picture as to what was occurring in real time as far as the victims were concerned, and this is backed 100% by their own testimony after the fact. As one would expect the island was permeated by adrenaline dumps, panic, terror, and a thick cloud of confusion.

    As far as the crash at Smolensk is concerned, I am inclined to think that this was a large scale political assassination of Poland’s entire Eurosceptic branch of government (a literal Katyn II). I don’t have any evidence to back that, however the level of outright deceit, corruption, and total lack of a proper modern and transparent investigation is very well documented. A large group consisting of many of the survivors family including Jarosław Kaczyński have filed a lawsuit against the Polish Government for what it claims is a cover up (with many other charges being leveled). Jarosław Kaczyński has publicly accused the cultural Marxist and neo-Lefist EU tool Donald Tusk (Prime Minister of Poland) as having played an active role in the crash and the subsequent cover up (including serious allegations regarding the bodies themselves). That whole situation sends up one massive red flag (EU Marxist pun intended).

    As the Smolensk crash relates to this Norway attack, I see absolutely no evidence in the media thus far of any form of a cover up, Mossad conspiracy, etc. There is no evidence in the media whatsoever that indicates that this was anything but an extremely motivated and intelligent assassin working alone or as a part of a wider militant indigenous rights group. A sign reading “Boycott Israel” on Utøya and other anti-Israeli coincidences in recent Norwegian Government legislation proves nothing. The whole of Europe is becoming extremely pro-Palestinian and extremely anti-Israeli, and this will continue so long as Europe slides towards increasingly aggressive forms of cultural Marxist governance. Are you telling me that Israel would risk further damage to it’s already heavily tarnished international reputation over 70+ leftist teenagers? If they were caught involved in an event like that they would be absolutely doomed as a nation.

    My own personal view on Israel and Jewish Zionism is “to hell with it and everything it stands for”. I’m not a supporter of Israel. There is an ocean of evidence that supports the notion that Israel is more of a criminal enterprise than a nation state. I do not however believe in an omnipotent Jewish conspiracy that is to blame for 99% of the contemporary events that take place in the world around us. Some of you speak of Jewish conspiracy in a way that almost sounds as if you believe it’s sewn into the Laws of physics. There is a very thick line between real Jewish Zionist subterfuge in the world and pure paranoia. In my opinion much of this paranoia comes from people too lazy or feeble minded to put in the time required to build an actual fact based opinion (like reading page 1 of a novel and then pretending to know what the storyline is about).

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      July 27, 2011 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

      Why would the Russians want Poland to be more pro-EU?

    • Jin's Gravatar Jin
      July 27, 2011 - 9:33 pm | Permalink

      Athanasius, you’re asking the wrong question. The question that you should be asking is what was Lech Kaczyński and his Law and Justice Party’s relationship with Russia? The answer to that question is simple, they were both the most anti-Russia political force in Poland since 1989 (crudely anti-Russian and rightfully so). And we’re not taking about just rhetorical anti-Russian sentiment, we’re talking about bold as it gets anti-Russian sentiment in action. Lech Kaczyński and several other heads of state camped out in Tbilisi during the 2008 South Ossetia war, presumably this was meant to dissuade Moscow from advancing on the Georgian capital and overthrowing Saakashvili’s Western backed government.

      As for the Smolensk crash, aboard that plane was almost all of Poland’s staunchly anti-Russian nationalist government, heads of the military, heads of the Polish Intelligence agency, and the head of Poland’s Central Bank. Other passengers included the original Katyn commission, most of whom were esteemed professors of Polish history and hard-line Polish nationalists (old timers who actually fought against the Russians during and after WWII). I could go on and on, however I think you get the point.

      I have no evidence that Putin, Donald Tusk, and the lever pullers in the EU collaborated together to have the plane crash, however if they did it would have been extremely beneficial to all three parties. Time will tell what the various Polish lawsuits will bring, my guess is that the Polish government will just continue to up the compensation level and try to buy silence.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 27, 2011 - 11:06 pm | Permalink

      Great post, Jin. I honestly wish we had some general disclaimer on the site that said, “Everyone is fully aware of the Rothschild, Illuminati, Trilateral, Truther, JFK, type theories. Unless you truly have something truly new to add, you are rehashing ancient stuff.”

      I heard the outline of most of these theories in my teen years. There were books written about most of it at least as long ago as at least the 1960s. What seems to happen is this: People who have never heard these theories before suddenly find a sensationalist website and become intoxicated with these awesome sounding conspiracy theories, they believe they are imbued with some special knowledge they need to share, and they are genuinely unaware that most people have already heard them and moved past them long ago.

    • John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
      July 27, 2011 - 11:46 pm | Permalink

      Jin and JS ,

      You guys seem a little too quick to write off the many sincere people who feel that history is filled with many unanswered questions and therefore unsolved mega-crimes .
      But , I will give you the benefit of the doubt as to say you are just not the types to be comfortable with loose ends . I would also say that you seem to be equally guilty of feeling like you have special knowledge as to be so certain that you know better than those misguided ” tin hatters ”

      I wonder if you would take a few minutes to watch this …..

      I just wonder what you would make of it ?
      In a few words how could this not raise some doubts to your ” there is no hidden agenda ” positions ?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 28, 2011 - 12:25 am | Permalink


      That clip is a good selection, because it illustrates how phony the conspiracy mongers are. You have fallen prey to a con. The people who created that clip, cut and stitched it together from a longer 20 minute speech, in order to create the impression JFK was warning us about secret societies inside the US and around the world.

      That is absolutely not what JFK was doing. The longer 20 minute speech from which it is pulled, makes clear JFK was talking about, among other things, his earlier Bay of Pigs invasion, and why they would want to keep such an action secret. He is saying that such secrecy is necessary at times, even though secrecy in general is abhorred by free societies. He is stating that he understands such official secrecy is abhorrent to a free society, but he is asking the publishers and newspapers to exercise restraint when the US government is conducting certain sensitive operations. He is actually pleading for the exact opposite of what the doctored clip claims!

      This is why so many of us are fed up with the conspiracy talk: It is full of dishonest people who make fake and misleading clips to promote their views.

      Here is a short clip that debunks that clip:

      And here is the transcript of the entire speech which makes obvious that JFK was not making the claim you think he was.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 28, 2011 - 12:57 am | Permalink

      Here is the transcript of the JFK speech. I heard about this fake conspiracy theory about 20 years ago the first time. I fell for it at first because it came from what I thought was a fairly reliable “rightwing” source. The version I read claimed that he made this speech in 1963, just before “they” took him out. As it turned out, this speech was given in 1961. The source I read it from was just trying to pump up their sales.

      The people who create these phony theories force us to waste thousands of hours on them, which could be better used getting at the truth. Some of these fakers may think it’s OK to lie in order to get at a “larger truth”, but all they do is discredit themselves and whomever they are associated with.

    • John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
      July 28, 2011 - 1:17 am | Permalink

      JS ,

      Fooled ? I only asked you to watch and for your opinion , I did not state mine . LOL

      That snippet was only one of many . And yes , there is plenty of over the top stuff from the conpiracy side . Much of it is probably made to create noise and confusion . We know that conspiracy has gone mainstream , so it makes sense that it would be very effective for the establishment to create lots of noise .
      There is also over the top mainstream accepted stuff like magic bullets and buildings that just fall down . There is admitted conspiracies that are too old to count . Presently , there are just too many questions with 911 . 911went very wrong as planned and it is just screaming out with
      suspicion .
      But , for now , I will admit to the fact that the video that I posted was not convincing to the conspiratorial view . In certainly does not disprove anything either .
      I often think that it is not an us verse them kind of contest when it comes to finding the truth . I want the truth and I hope everyone does . Even if a newly discovered truth makes me change my opinion .
      I have not changed my mind as to having very strong doubts about the 911 official version . I am surprised that any sincere person would not have big doubts .

      In closing , you are free to be pro status quo official version on everything . But , the truth will not change and hopefully discovering truth is what is essential as the goal for everyone .

  12. John Slota's Gravatar John Slota
    July 27, 2011 - 6:47 pm | Permalink

    For one thing, the Cabala is only supposed to be studied by men only, who are at least 40 years old. Otherwise, it is said the student will go mad.
    Thats exactly what happened to Breivik. He is simply on half way but he started act. This is reason why freemason and terrorist Giusepe Mazzini started play with youths. He knew how vurnerable their psyche is and how manipulative they are.
    In reality he just exactly fit profile of group where he was active: Christian-freemason-political party member.
    There is no comparable terrorists as christians are. Not just Cathars,inquistion and Jasenovac concentration camp, but they terrorize societies by ignoring principles let say golden rule. They simply think that because they declare, reality is far different, moral aspect of their acts, we all must accept it and be happy with it. And church is corporation protected by elites- aint pay no taxes.
    Freemasons. This is chapter by himself. Why someone in open society and democracy feel needs to be part of secrecy and what is goal of those secrecies? I think secret societies and religion goes hand-by-hand with elites, let mention CFR,Aspen Institute, Tavistock, and they just spreading agenda prepared by elites to the mases.
    Political party. In my view politacal party should be group of people who are involved in running the party and present their agenda. Political party does not need wide base of members. As soon as political party has too many memebrs it became religion and is pulling into game circles of members by corruption and protectionism. Political party goes on market in electoral race and result show how voters react on their agenda. This is not issue in monopolitical culture of USA.
    What Mr. Mc Donald did not mentioned is that Breivik wrote a lot about European history. It is the same populist agenda as he is freemason but against Marx, he’s christian but kill. His view of history is better than this in schools but he is missing points so his picture is mess.
    Apropo Marx. Marx is not what they say he was. He and Engels had been upset with slave conditions during industrial revolution in England. How they have been doing there read They were white they were slaves. Breivik, and many others did not get one key point of history: Khazars. In 13. century Khazarian elites moved to Spain, Germany and Hungary. In Spain they met Templars and Cathars. Templars renamed to Jesuits and Khazars as alumbrado/illuminati. They left Spain and moved to Italy and Germany. Example is los Banco/Warburg familly originally from Barcelona. Loyola was couple times accused that he is member of alumbrado by Vatican. They played vital role in religion wars in europe 16-17 centuries and reformation. Heads of those met in Frankfurt in second half 18th century: Bayer took name after biblical Ruth’s Child which was Moabite widow in bible, los Banco took name after village where they live Warburg, they shared house in Frankfurt, Adam Weishaupt, Jacob Frank, Jacob Schiff. They draw plan how to get Khazaria back from Russian tsar. Powers behind them controled Englnd and The city of London corporation, but britain did not have enough artilery needs for trip to Russia. So they send agend to French king who make him secretary of treasure. This guy was spending money in american way on high interests. When french king woke up it was too late. He tried to refinance his debt in Swiss bankers but revolution sparked. Jacob Frank’s realtive Moses Dobrushka died at guilotine with Dante as Iunius Frei. But they got control over France by Napoleon Bonaparte, freemason who get into order in Cairo and his symbol was Egyptian Bee. This guys financed Napoleons trip into Russia. Thanx genius general Kutuzov Russia was saved. Waterloo was just false flag operation and they got bailout by ripping off small investors in England. During century Khazarian elites supported their comrades in Pale Settlement with permenent rebelions which followed by Russian power step up and they called it pogroms. Khazars developed taktix of terror in Russia to promote their case. Similar to Breivik. Jacob Schiff secured loans to Japan with low interests so Japan won over Russia and revolution 1905 followed. There was a guy Joseph Shaakasvilli, later Stalin, who in 1901 worked at Rothschild’s refinery in Batumi. He was sent to Siberia. 6 months after creation Federal Reserve WW1 started in Europe. And Warburgs dominion-Germany as leader. But nobody was ready for war so in 1915 Germany offered all involved peace with everything as was before war. But England did not agree and they created Belgium relief found thru wich they were feeding German military aginst whom they have been in war. It was until february 1917 when Kerensky took control in Russia, but his goals were different from Khazarian elites in the west so they sent commando with 20 milion of gold from Wall Street and Jacob Schiff. Albert Gore daughter married into Schiff familly. When war ended surprise come in: German revolution 1919-Bavarian soviet republic, lead by communist who distanced themselfs from bolshevix in Russia and they even did not mention Marx. Beside hanging up couple aristocrats and Thule society leaders they wanted go to war against Switzerland, where BIS sits today. Thule later created DAP later NSDAP. They hire Hitler to go against Stalin. But as soon as Hitler got into power he prohibits Thule and Vril society and freemasonry in germany. Rudolf von Sebottendorf escaped to Turkey, stronghold of Khazars since is controled by Donmeh setled in Thessaloniki weher Attaturk was born. Sebottendorf as Sefik Husnu set fire of Reichstag, was arrested, but they turned it to communist. Germany slowly got away from Kahzarian influence so they turned to Stalin fight with Hitler who poses thread to their system in europe. But Stalin did not agree with Bretton Wood agreement and he refused Marshall plan, similar to american help to Cuba or lately Egypt refused loans from IMF and USA. So now Stalin became axe of evil himself, even 2x man of the year on Time magazine, and Uncle Joe on Wall Street, friend of Harriman.
    An what is in islam? Islamic law sharia prohibit lend money for in terests. Bankers becoming coinvestors and they share profit and loses. Islam is also not infected by multikurturalism, feminism,gay culture and so which turned western people into powerless cattle as project.

    Their strategy is: “No permanent enemies,no permannet friends.Permanent interest only.” Khazars once kontroled 1 milion sq miles now rich on oil. So this big piece of land is permanent ineterest.
    Another good one is:Competition is a sin. So competition is labeled as threat to democracy,dictators and so on.
    And finally about above talx Brzezinski in his book: The Grand Chessboard. And this is reason why NATO encircling Russia.
    Just reminder. West once created Operation Gladio over which they terrorized its own people and blamed leftists. Similar was operation Northwoods in USA finally got over in 9/11.
    And how Templars control world finances? Check Cathedral Bank on wikipedia.
    There is still trek path from France to Spain called Cathars path over Pyrenees. Templars and Cathars setled in Spain and later took control even over Vatican. Jose Barroso and Bill Clinton are product of private Jesuit Gerorgetown university. Washington DC is build on land formerly owned by Jesuit and original name of Washington was Rome and river was Tiber.

    In this scenario there is not much space left for Marx or Ayn Rand. In US supreme court there is no one protestant.

    Breivik named problems but get into wrong way because he was too young and too hyperactive. Patience pays.

    • Jimmy's Gravatar Jimmy
      July 27, 2011 - 10:52 pm | Permalink

      Wow, “Eastern” European thought-style all the way Slota. Communism shows its scars.

  13. Barkingmad's Gravatar Barkingmad
    July 27, 2011 - 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Probably Breivik’s “zionism” etc. was a front.

  14. Jimmy Marr's Gravatar Jimmy Marr
    July 27, 2011 - 1:13 pm | Permalink
  15. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    July 27, 2011 - 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Let me explain the WordPress issue. What happens is that an error dialogue appears on screen saying something like:

    “Ooops, it seems you have already said that”

    Implying you are posting an identical comment, when in fact you have not.

    You will see two (near identical) comments of mine above. In fact, WordPress told me I was posting a duplicate in response to the FIRST comment posted [11:56 am], which is/was nonsense. This is why I was obliged to repeat my comment post [11:58 am].

  16. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    July 27, 2011 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    A lengthy and well-thought article followed by so many insightful comments. I am coming late to this party, so there might be little of note for me to add, but I shall try. Thus, I shall stick to the basics.

    1) Anders Behring Breivik is a patsy. He is a contrived figure with a make-believe past. He is an instrument of the NATO dirty tricks brigade. Therefore nobody should waste their time & energy dissecting his alleged writings and statements.

    2) The handsome Nordic and son of a former employee of the Norwegian Embassy in London could not have single-handedly bombed the centre of Oslo before speeding off to an island, to cold-bloodedly kill something like 80 unarmed civilians (many of whom were barely adults). It is a physical impossibility. Some survivors insist there was a second shooter, who is described as NOT wearing a uniform;

    3) Motives point to Mossad (as usual), but they point even more strongly to rogue elements in the CIA and/or in NATO (in Brussels) because Norway’s determination to untangle itself from the ongoing criminal action in Libya threatened to unravel the whole bogus operation;

    4) Informed sources throughout the Internet have been warning for weeks that a false-flag operation was imminent, particularly one designed to paint so-called “right-wing”, individualistic and independently minded persons in a bad light;

    5) The video purportedly produced by Anders Behring Breivik prior to his alleged outrage is very slick and professionally produced. So, we are led to believe Breivik is a farmer, Breivik is a competent bomb-maker, Breivik is a sharp-shooter, Breivik is a competent movie-maker, oh and incidentally that he is also insane.

    If you wish to believe the utterly childish bile being concocted by the Rothschild financed shadow government of the world, then good luck to you. Meanwhile, I would rather go looking for the 2nd shooter, and also for the people who planted military grade explosives in that Norwegian government building.

    I recommend all TOO readers visit the Webster Tarpley website and download the MP3 file of him giving a far more cogent explanation of the whole operation, and the likely motives behind it, to Alex Jones (Prison Planet).

  17. point blank's Gravatar point blank
    July 26, 2011 - 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Here’s an honest and succinct article regarding the events in Norway , from David Duke’s website :

    As more information comes to light it looks like this homicidal maniac Anders Behring Breivik is a rabid pro-Israel kosher conservative. The horrific events in Norway is proof positive that the nuttiest and most dangerous people on the Right are pro-Israel kosher conservative ,and or, judeo/zionist christians.

    [ By the way. I posted that comment to one of the blog posts at The Political Cesspool blog , and it was promptly deleted !? Why? It’s a fairly tame comment. I figure the moderator of the blog must be a Kosher Conservatard or judeo christiatard and got offended somehow. Those damn nutty kosher conservatards ! ]

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 27, 2011 - 2:51 am | Permalink

      Let me guess, Jim Bowie. You also believe that 9/11 was an Arab Muslim attack, right?

      Of course you do.

  18. Jimmy's Gravatar Jimmy
    July 26, 2011 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Where is his speech? Was he allowed to give it in open court? The ‘media’ seem to be dropping this like a hot potato. Jewish guy on Alex Jones is calling this a ‘Swedish Neo-Nazi’ plot. Alex Jones actually called him on it. Seems they are worried about this one.

    Media is pushing this story under the table because of the immigration/jewish agenda angle.


  19. July 26, 2011 - 9:04 am | Permalink

    The official norwegian total body count has been ajusted downward to 76.

    Utøya til 68, and the Oslo bomsite 8.

    I think there are still missing persons, so it could go up again.

    To those who think it is impossible he shot all thoe people by himself; he had a full hours time on a small island where there was no getaway. Some are alleged to have died of drowning in stead of gunfire.

    I don’t know if this story has hit the foreign media yet, but it seems that Breivik was not completely without compassion.

    A survivor, by the name of Adrian Pracon who played dead heard an 11 year old boy plead for his life; “You already shot my father, I’m to young to die” and more. After that Brevik left him alone.

  20. Jin's Gravatar Jin
    July 26, 2011 - 1:14 am | Permalink

    I browsed the comments here once more and wanted to chime in with one last thought. There seems to be a growing conspiracy theory based vein of thought / ideology bleeding pure poison into the European cultural conservative and nationalist movements. Some of these comments read almost like they were written by an Alex Jones Hitler hybrid (pure drivel that accomplishes nothing except to discredit the gravity of Europe’s crisis). Jewish elites have a heavy hand in the cultural Marxist movements without question, but this tin foil hat “shadow underworld” nonsense is completely absurd.

    There is absolutely zero evidence that the Mossad carried out a false flag operation in Norway. There is tons of evidence however that an Olso native familiar with the city layout and terrain carried it out after 9 years of meticulous planning.

    • Jim Bowie's Gravatar Jim Bowie
      July 26, 2011 - 1:41 am | Permalink

      Amen. And it acts as a distraction to serious discussion.

    • July 26, 2011 - 2:02 am | Permalink

      “Jim Bowie” and “Jin” say:

      conspiracy theory … distraction to serious discussion

      As if their neo-conservative, pro-Israel, FOX news is “serious” and we are not.

      Without the benefit of a TV screen, these people are not really that interesting, are they?


      I’m a White American, I don’t give a damn about Israel. Listen to them whine – just like a parasite tick wiggles around when you pull them out of your skin.

    • Jim Bowie's Gravatar Jim Bowie
      July 26, 2011 - 2:45 am | Permalink

      I’m not a neoconservative Rich. And most of the articles here are way beyond the tinfoil stuff. You don’t seem to appreciate the need to be accurate, truthful and legitimate to the White community. And you have to remember, White people are a pretty smart group. The simplistic style of conspiracy theory flies in the mideast, but not so much in Europe or America.

      And you can’t claim the imprimatur of this site for whatever speculative theory you pull out of your ear. Just because the role of Jewish influence is denied, that doesn’t mean that every single crackpot theory is therefore correct. Professor MacDonald and Alex Jones are not equals.

    • Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
      July 26, 2011 - 4:24 am | Permalink

      False Flag operations are real. Zionist forces have a very big bag of dirty tricks and they are not afraid to use them to serve their agenda. They have been using these tricks for a very long time and have gotten very good at it. Those who do not believe this to be true are in denial. There is great value to academic approach that Prof MacDonald employs. However, we should also focus on ways and methods Jews accomplish their evolutionary goals. These are not conspiracy theories.. This is simply reality!

    • Jim Bowie's Gravatar Jim Bowie
      July 26, 2011 - 6:10 am | Permalink

      Conspiracies do exist and false flags do happen. But the fact they can happen, doesn’t mean every event of a dramatic nature is one. No one is arguing that there aren’t cruel, dark, deceptive powers in the world (just buying a used car can teach you that), but the proposition that the majority of shocking events are faked or falsified is not supported by the evidence.

      It’s the belief that world history can best be explained by conspiracies that I think is misleading. Other factors are more fundamental, such as the role of ideas, the material factors at work, and demographics. Most of the work done by groups like the Frankfurt School was pretty open. Now, they were dishonest a lot of the time, but their basic philosophy and goals were well known – at that level they weren’t what most people call conspiracies.

      I’m pretty well versed in most of the standard conspiracy theories, and I do think more attention should be paid to the Bilderbergers, Trilaterals, and all the rest. But based on what I’ve learned over the years, I now believe most guys at the Bohemian grove are a bunch of aging frat boys getting drunk.

      It is not effective for them to propel their agenda through a series of highly dramatic James Bond style operations. 99% of what the Hostile Elites have desired was accomplished via fairly boring techniques (education, TV shows, control of the commanding heights of the culture). The methods that are most important are not really that exciting.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 26, 2011 - 9:22 am | Permalink

      An intellectual’s “open” pseudo-scientific theory could be a clever (“conspiratorial”) means of propagandizing the less-clever masses. So the mere fact of being “open” does not preclude a “conspiracy” of sorts.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      July 27, 2011 - 12:30 pm | Permalink

      Jin [July 26, 2011 – 1:14 am] …

      Your uninformed assertions would make more sense if it wasn’t for the following FACTS:

      1) For a fertilizer bomb to have caused the damage and killing seen in Oslo, one would have had to have somehow shipped in, unseen into the centre of Oslo, one or two railroad wagon loads of the stuff. Therefore, that explosion could only have been caused by military grade explosives, and planted by experts;

      2) It has already been reported (and repeatedly) that at least 2 survivors on the island have reported the existence of a 2nd shooter. This shooter was seen finishing off any wounded discovered, and clinically at close quarters.

      I would also like to cast your minds back to the death of almost the entire Polish Government, and its senior military, resulting from a plane crash in Russia about one year ago (they were en-route to attend a Katyn Forest memorial). Trouble is, some eye-witnesses saw men with guns walking through the wreckage, shooting all of the surviving passengers point blank (execution style). Indeed, a video of this execution operation was posted on YouTube, although I must assume it has been wiped since.

      If you remember properly you will surely recall that just like the Norwegian government of late, the Polish government (prior to their clinical annihilation) was ‘guilty’ of acting independently of EU Diktat and refusing to sign the Lisbon Treaty.

      I suspect we are dealing here with the merciless activities of a very “high level” and murderous organization, which few of you commenting on this page seem to have the mental faculty to comprehend.

      Even worse, those of you who continue to deny the existence of “conspiracies” are simply being childish. What we call History is in fact written by the hiding or unravelling of conspiracies.

  21. July 26, 2011 - 1:11 am | Permalink

    A rebuttal to Anders.

  22. Jin's Gravatar Jin
    July 26, 2011 - 12:45 am | Permalink

    As the old saying goes, the only thing more painful than death itself is the death of one’s child.

    Mr. Breivik called upon one of the darkest and most effective shock warfare techniques. He distracted the proverbial palace guard, snuck into the courtyard, and then very violently executed a sizable portion of his country’s future ruling class. If you listen carefully to the Norwegian Prime Minister’s numerous post-massacre speeches he repeatedly claims to directly or indirectly know almost all of the victims (he knew the children or he knew the parents of the children). The social rank of these Norwegians is pretty evident when one finds out that the Princess of Norway’s step-brother died in the attack while protecting his son. The people on this island were without exception the future generation of Norway’s cultural Marxist idealogical machinery.

    As far as the Jewish question is concerned, Anders sets out guidelines in his book that all future cultural conservative run European nation states will not be able to exceed a 2% minority population per generation (he’s not particularly explicit in how he’d institutionalize that mandate). It’s also explicitly stated that European based cultural Marxists of any ethnic or religious background will be hunted down and liquidated. His blueprint leaves no room for European betrayal of any form, Jewish or otherwise.

    I’m from South Korea and thus have no dog in this race. I naturally do not believe in violence, however I can also clearly see that the stakes for Western Civilization could not possibly be any higher. To blotch out part or all of Western Civilization would in all likelihood irreparably cripple the progress of mankind as a whole. While you might think that sounds comical, simply look as the contributions of Western Civilization as a whole, then begin to deduct those individually while calculating the human-wide consequences of that deduction. We Asians can only do so much. :)

    I’m not sure if next week I will log into my local news portal to find out a revolution has started somewhere in Europe. Best of luck to you all. Hopefully a peaceful solution is still possible, however I’m honest and versed in history enough to know that armed conflict is almost a certainty at this point.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 26, 2011 - 2:01 am | Permalink

      I’m honest and versed in history enough to know that armed conflict is almost a certainty at this point.

      I agree 100%.
      It’s time to take compassion out of this. His targets were the budding elite being groomed to further immigration in Norway.
      This immigration has lead to and will continue to lead to rape and murder of his people.

      Hypthotheticly speaking. If he had other cells involved and actually over threw the Norweigan government that day and stopped immigration, would he not be hailed as a hero?
      He would, reguardless of the casulties.

      Look at the big picture here.

    • maaldweb's Gravatar maaldweb
      July 26, 2011 - 3:40 am | Permalink

      Well Said

      I always consider East Asians (with the exception of the communist chinese) the natural allies of the western world.

  23. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    July 26, 2011 - 12:10 am | Permalink

    Here is a copy of my recent comment on a Financial Times story on Norway and its Paradise Lost. If you subscribe, you can comment. I have been hammering the jews and the rest of it, but in polite and respectful language, and so far have been 86ed. more on Breivik.

    Report joe webb | July 26 5:00am | Permalink

    thinking a little more on Breivik, he is a sort of crusader with his vision of a Knights Templar revival to drive the Muslims out of Europe.

    Of course he will be the maximum Leader.

    When I was reconstructing my personal sense of political and social reality, I recognized that class struggle, capitalism, imperialism, internationalism, equality, and racial equality were either untrue, or eclipsed by : nationalism, racialism (and IQ and temperment differences between the races), and religlon. Then, I came to view socio-biology as a genuine scientific approach to human realities. Socio-biology is not scientism. ( LIberals like to think that they are with it…that Charles Darwin was and is correct. However, they now are back-peddling furiously to avoid the obvious implications of Darwinian Evolution: that different environments produced variations of homo sapiens sapien…over a very long period of time, like at least 60,000 years.)

    So, if these fundamentals replace and/or eclipse the earlier leftist (and liberal) view of Man, then Everything is changed. For example, Disraeli said Race was Everything. Well, add Religion, and the socio-biologically driven Nationalism and its variants with regard to scale, and that sort of takes care of it.

    Religion( recall Freud’s arrogant dismissal of it…The Future of an Illusion..(and the illusion if not sexual delusion of psychoanalysis)…..religion is here to stay. God, Biology, or Culture are the three competing points of view. Breivik wants to crusade for his True Christianity, and he somewhat incongruously fastens liberal race-equality onto his war-wagon. Christ never condemned slavery, and He never argued for any kind of Equality. He did argue for love, which is real, and is the only thing that can overcome inequality in some measure, in terms of keeping the social peace. Noblesse Oblige was always the genuine conservative principle that solved the social question (inequality) more or less.

    Religion, illusion or not , has a great future. It is one of many facts of life. It addresses the problem of death, and other vexing questions, and provides better existential answers than anything else, including socio-biology, for most folks.

    So now Breivik is going to abandon genuine Christian tradition and insist on racial equality. This will be as disastrous as communism, which never set Equality at the center of matters, in fact, just the opposite. Communism failed not because of equality or inequality, but because of central planning and tyranny, and totalitarian thinking. Another story.

    Breivik, thus, is another crackpot on a mission from God. He is neither a White Nationalist, nor a Christian of any sort of variety that we are aware of, nor a Right-wing extremist. He is a religious extremist, and a zionist extremist. He is another fanatic trying to start World War Three….
    along with the neocons and Likudniks. Joe

  24. Paul Hausser's Gravatar Paul Hausser
    July 25, 2011 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

    How is rupert moloch I mean mordecai taking this news?

    He look more and more like an old jew.

    I think that is a body double we see as rupert moloch

  25. Paul Hausser's Gravatar Paul Hausser
    July 25, 2011 - 11:24 pm | Permalink

    This whole thing does not pass the smell test

    A White Nationalist killing 10 year old White Norwegians at a BSA retreat on a remote island in Norway?

    Sorry no go.

    Bolshevik LIES

  26. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 25, 2011 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Has anybody bothered to ask where Breivik made his millions of dollars? Investigate how he made his money and you just might uncover some Jewish/Israeli ties.

    • Paul Hausser's Gravatar Paul Hausser
      July 25, 2011 - 11:26 pm | Permalink


      Follow the kosher money trail.

      He looks more Julian Assange(CIA MI5 MOSSAD) than a fellow with a “cause”

    • Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
      July 26, 2011 - 11:24 pm | Permalink

      The Jewish-owned TIME magazine’s readers have chosen Julian Assange, the man behind WikiLeaks, in the weekly’s annual poll for Person of the Year, while Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan came in second. On the other hand, Assange praised Netanyahu as a hero of transparency and openness!

  27. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    July 25, 2011 - 9:32 pm | Permalink

    BNP and National Front could learn a few tricks from America’s major political parties which are all ‘Islamophobe’ like their British counterparts. BNP and NF should start sharing bed with Jewish Lobby groups as EDL have done – and I bet their leaders will be inside 10 Downing St. in the near future.

    Here is how the smart US politicians do in the US.

    Over 300 million Americans are currently witnessing a chapter from British’s Jewish history. In fact, they have been told this story every four years for decades in the past. Jewish communities were expelled from almost every European country. Some of those Jews found more tolerance among Muslim societies in Spain, Sicily, Baghdad and Samarkand.

    The entire Jewish population of England was expelled in 1290 on the orders of King Edward I. In 1656, Zionist Christian Oliver Cromwell, the self-proclaimed ‘Lord Protector’ allowed Jews to return to England because he needed their financial support to bring a regime-change (King Charles I). Incidently, Oliver Cromwell’s ambassador to the Goyim was Portuguese-born Rabbi Menasseh Ben Israel (d. 1657).

    This year, Republican, Democrat and Tea Party are all trying to convince the 2% Jewish population of the US – which one of three is the modern Oliver Cromwell.

    • chad's Gravatar chad
      July 26, 2011 - 11:22 am | Permalink

      man rehmat, this was a good post.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 27, 2011 - 8:33 pm | Permalink

      Rehmat has given us wonderful history about Cromwell.’The Lord Protector’s strategy and tactics are very relevent to today.Even today he is a hero of Jews and fundementilists.The powers behind today’s conservertives.

  28. July 25, 2011 - 9:27 pm | Permalink
  29. chad's Gravatar chad
    July 25, 2011 - 9:01 pm | Permalink

    in my opinion a lot of people just don’t understand how powerful the television is as a brain washing technique. i call the t.v. the slow cooker, because when you first go in, the water is cold like the slow cooking of a frog. over time the water heats up until you’re cooked, or until the great majority of your views in life have come directly from the television without you even knowing it.

    Jesus Christ is attacked directly and indirectly over the airwaves more than any other thing on the planet earth. every single movie in the last 30 years, except for a tiny few, has the main character saying Jesus Christ like it’s some kind of cuss word. until every single person i know says it without even thinking about it.
    now can we be honest here? we all know jews have complete control of every movie house and television studio in america, and probably europe too. so we must understand that there is a war on to eradicate Christianity from the face of the earth, being waged by the very same people that are flooding our nations with the fruit of the satanic multiculturalism lie.

    so when a lot of the good folks who comment on this great web site attack Christianity as the problem, i fear that the enemies of our race have succeeded in reprogramming you without you even knowing it.

    ask yourselves this, do you really want to be in agreement with the likes of chuck schumer and joe lieberman? when our nation was completely devoted to Christ we we’re at our strongest, and so was europe.

    in order to destroy the american constitution that was based upon our love of God, they had to first destroy our love of God. and unfortunately, with too many of our people, it would appear that they’ve succeeded.

    don’t let the false prophets like that psychopath john hagee and that judas goat glenn beck drive you from Christ. in my humble opinion, we can’t save our race or our nations if we buy the greatest of the lies of those who are determined to destroy us.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 10:32 pm | Permalink

      You’re a good guy, Chad.

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 25, 2011 - 11:16 pm | Permalink

      Jesus Myth – The Case Against Historical Christ

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 25, 2011 - 11:17 pm | Permalink

      Jesus Myth Part II – Follow-up, Commentary, and Expansion

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 25, 2011 - 11:17 pm | Permalink

      The Gospel of Mark as Reaction and Allegory

    • fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
      July 25, 2011 - 11:18 pm | Permalink

      Chad: so I take it you’d be fine with Arabs displacing Europeans as long as they were Christians? Are you okay with millions of Christian Mexicans taking over the southwest?

    • chad's Gravatar chad
      July 26, 2011 - 11:20 am | Permalink

      thanks doug.

      z.o.g. my brother, think for yourself man, don’t let some other guy’s link think for you.

      fender_strat if i was cool with traitors giving away white homelands to other race’s, would i have called it the satanic multiculturalism lie? God seperated us for a reason, so one couldn’t corrupt the whole. the destruction of Christianity is just one of the enemies protocols, the destruction of the white race is another.

      so trust me, i am most definitely outraged with the intentional flooding of our nations with people who hate us. though i don’t hate them, and i would be equally upset if somebody was flooding their homelands with foreigners, with the intent of destroying them.

      me ant the wife went to chicago not to long ago, and it didn’t even seem like america anymore.

  30. mari's Gravatar mari
    July 25, 2011 - 8:11 pm | Permalink

    CNSnews has a hastily put together program with the talking heads yakking away about Breivk. He is a fan of pro Israel pundits like Gleen Beck, Robert Spencer, Geert Wilders, Daniel Pipes, Melanie Phillips & Bat Y eor. He also; horror of horrors quotes websites like the Jewish Little Green Footballs and Jihad Watch. He is a fan of anti immigration Brussels Watch and Gates of Vienna.

    My first thought is that he was a fall guy. Maybe he really wanted to draw world wide attention to his cause. Supposedly Lee Oswald was eager for a trial in which he would denounce America and all its evil works, particularly Kennedy’s speeches against Castro.

    Most “White right wing christian neo nazi” groups were set up by ADL to raise money from rich Jews who believe that another holocaust is around the corner if public Christmas trees are not banned next year.

    My local Jewish community weekly will be dumped in my workplace and every coffee shop in the neighborhood Thursday. I can’t wait to read about how this extremely pro Israel terrorist is really a neo nazi seeking to discredit Israel and Jews.

    They guy is a mason. So have been all but about 10 American presidents. The anti masonic league was right.
    The catholic church is right. Masons are an evil group seeking to take over the world!!!!!!!!!! Beware the masons!!
    Ban White leather aprons and compasses!!!!!

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 25, 2011 - 8:35 pm | Permalink

      I understand that the simpler conspiracy theories and masonic lore are the starting place for a lot of people (sometimes in their teens), but we can now understand these issues with a higher degree of detail and intelligence. This site has an amazing array of highly sophisticated articles that explains so about the ethnic dynamics that exist in our modern world – why not avail yourself of them?

      Why stay stuck repeating folk lore and old wives’ tales, when you have a goldmine available right here on this site?

    • Paul Hausser's Gravatar Paul Hausser
      July 25, 2011 - 11:33 pm | Permalink

      That is because he worships at the alter of egosim mammonism and zionism.

      Notice how they released pictures of this fellow in full Masonic uniform.

      I think the Jews and Freemasons are having a pissing contest and we all are stuck in the middle.

      Great WW3 here we go.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      July 26, 2011 - 12:17 am | Permalink

      I’m by no means a scholar of freemasonry. But it seems to me that the basic premise of freemasonry is a mythologized theosophy that encourages super-national business and cultural ties.

      Masonry became popular in a time when most Jews were still rejected by the closed societies that controlled various facets of the economy. These closed societies served as an adaptive strategy to promote in groups. I.e., someone who was a Catholic (or a Protestant in the North) was more likely to be like you and was someone you could trust and whose interests you would want to promote.

      Meta-credal freemasonry broke those societies opened and gave Christian elites reason to believe that they had some thing in common with Jewish elites, and therefore that they had something to gain by collaborating with them.

      Do Masons still actively collaborate with the Jewish agenda as it is outlined by Prof. MacDonald? I don’t know.

    • Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
      July 26, 2011 - 3:53 am | Permalink


      I agree..

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      July 26, 2011 - 5:35 am | Permalink

      Athanasius: American Freemasonry has changed remarkably little since colonial days. Most Masons—that is, those in the first ten or so degrees—are there for social and business reasons. The indoctrination is largely confined to the sort of easygoing religious indifferentism that most Americans equate with ordinary neighborliness and thus find it hard to object to, certainly in the context of normal day-to-day social intercourse. The typical decent churchgoing American Protestant Lodge member who fights doggedly to protect his wife and children and community from the pernicious depredation and corruption of our Tribal masters has about as much connection with and understanding of the true aims and beliefs of Freemasonry’s secret inner directorate as a Saturday morning rerun of Rocky and Bullwinkle does with the poisonous agenda of the lords of television. Such a man is not silly or deluded or unintelligent or corrupt. He is simply being kept in the dark by people whose whole being is given over to crypsis.

      My impression is that only when one begins to approach the thirtieth degree do doors start opening and veils begin dropping. Then the gnosticism and cabalism, the hatred of throne and sanctified altar, that lie at Freemasonry’s core get presented bit by bit to the chosen few.

      Michael Hoffman has made study of this cult a focus of his work, as did Léon de Poncins seventy years ago. I recommend them both to you. For starters, however, go to the very temperate, scholarly, and splendid article in the online Catholic Encyclopedia. One reading will make it abundantly clear why for centuries a Catholic who joined a lodge was excommunicated latae sententiae (immediately and automatically). As you may know, the penalty is still formally in place, though the postconciliar Masonic hierarchy either downplays or dismisses the anathema—doubtless to increase the number of souls that will suffer eternally alongside their Satanic overlord.

    • Grand Republic's Gravatar Grand Republic
      July 27, 2011 - 3:15 am | Permalink

      Jason Speaks and Scooter insults are inapropriate and on the level of 7th graders.They both seeem to think only their very limited horizons should be heard.I come here for provocative insights and controversial opinions.Not moralizing,and personel insult to other bloggers.

  31. Hasbara Matata's Gravatar Hasbara Matata
    July 25, 2011 - 6:43 pm | Permalink

    KMD: “Again, these may be tactical moves, although I rather doubt it.”

    It’s uncanny how his history of Multiculturalism all points at Jews, and yet he never goes there explicitly– the sources he appears to have culled it from surely did not balk. And since he’s obviously no dummy, it’s difficult to tell if he’s doing it on purpose, with some larger strategic goal in mind. I, too, ultimately suspect he is not that calculating: it’s just part of Christian Philo-Semite turn of brain.

    KMD: “I suppose it is possible that in the long run European elites will understand that the glorious multicultural future will not be attained without a great deal of bloodletting (including themselves and, as in this case, their children) and realize they will have to change their ways.”

    Yep. We can hope. If they don’t they’ll be little left to hope for.

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      July 25, 2011 - 8:01 pm | Permalink

      I am guessing if he does not name the Jew, while pointing at them, it is because he does not believe naming them works in the political arena.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 26, 2011 - 10:29 pm | Permalink

      Jason Speaks (what a childess handle)knows nothing,and certainly not history.His philosophy is on par with the killer in Norway.KOSHER.But as all of my contacts ssy on here;HE”S SBORING.As my gorgeous Nordic girlfriend said;He sounds like a frustrated male Virgin to herlol.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 26, 2011 - 11:21 pm | Permalink

      Northern Light:

      Your spelling and grammar are weird and hard to read. Inappropriate capitalization is often a sign of the lower classes attempting to seem erudite, or a child attempting to fake us old guys into believing he is old and wise – which is it?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 26, 2011 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

      LOL – I was going to say NL, let your gorgeous Nordic girlfriend do the writing next time, maybe we’d get less typos and run-on sentences.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 27, 2011 - 12:00 am | Permalink

      He can’t afford her for that – she runs $300 per hour!

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      July 27, 2011 - 3:12 pm | Permalink

      Behave yourself, Scooter! A gentleman doesn’t quote prices in public. Not even in shekels. And especially not when the commodity in question is [wink wink, nudge nudge] pastry.

      Jason, consider this fair warning: if you continue using LOL and other scream-inducing texting abbreviations, I’ll have my Sicilian friends in iridescent suits hunt you down and teach you what pain really is: confinement in a locked room with an endlessly repeating eight-track tape of Barry Manilow’s greatest hits. After 48 hours of that, see how far your OMGs get you!

  32. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    July 25, 2011 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Any clear thinking independent political mind would understand that peace in the Middle East would reduce the number of refugees coming from the region. It would also recognize that Israel is the cause, not the solution.
    MK Ultra anyone?

    Yeah , it’s the usual suspects .

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 26, 2011 - 5:58 pm | Permalink

      Chavez;the target of NEOCONSERVATIVES is a very great leader.AntiZionist,and his hated obly for keeping BIGOIL/The Jews from stealing Venuzual’s oil.All we get from JASON SPEAKs are sophamoric,spins from The JBS,, Limbaugh,and Fundementilist Christianity.His arguments have no effect on me r anyone with ‘good instincts’and are best suited for a neoconservative Jew talk show like Michiel Weiner AKA Savage.I proudly stand with Horst Wessel,and the greatness of Germany.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 26, 2011 - 6:13 pm | Permalink

      OK, so Northern Lights is yet another “anti-fascist”, “anti-racist”, troll, probably from searchlight, that comes on this site to disrupt honest discussion. Anytime you see someone spewing crazy theories, praising Nazis, or putting forward some other nutty idea (like love of communist dictators), you can be sure it is a troll trying to drive off readers from the site.

      Please, new readers, do not be affected by some of the comments here – focus on the articles and especially the work of MacDonald.

  33. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    July 25, 2011 - 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Knight Templers were earlier John Hagee & Associates. United States is Templers first Masonic state. That’s one of the reasons, Israel Shamir had said: “America is as much Jewish as Vatican is Catholic”.

    Now, Templers are busy bringing their second ‘Clash of Civilization’ – first being Crusades and Frankish wars.

    In September 2010 – Cuban leader Fidel Castro in his speech at Universty of Havana mass rally had said that “a nuclear conflict was inevitable if the United States, in alliance with Israel, tried to impose international sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program”.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 25, 2011 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

      Oh Castro said that? Oh well goodness me, what a reputable source. Has Donald Duck weighted in yet?

      And by the way, he isn’t a Cuban leader, he’s a Cuban dictator and oppressor, like Hugo Chavez.

  34. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 25, 2011 - 6:26 pm | Permalink

    July 25, 2011 – 1:02 pm | Permalink

    We all have to worship something. The authoritarian state wants to be God rather than an abstract idealized symbol of love and compassion found in Jesus worship.

    Yes, Jesus is a great symbol of love and compassion.

    [b]Rabbi Jesus the Hateful Jew[/b]

    If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 5:29

    And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 5:30

    But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 8:12

    Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:21

    Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:34

    For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:35

    Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:37

    They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 13:42

    and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 13:50

    If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 18:8

    If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Mark 9:43

    Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:51

    From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:52

    The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:53

    There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Luke 13:28

    If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters – yes, even his own life – he cannot be my disciple.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Luke 14:26

    In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.
    – Rabbi Jesus, Luke 14:33

    The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
    – Rabbi Jesus, John 12:25

  35. Harumphty_Dumpty's Gravatar Harumphty_Dumpty
    July 25, 2011 - 5:23 pm | Permalink
  36. Harumphty_Dumpty's Gravatar Harumphty_Dumpty
    July 25, 2011 - 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Among the youth at the camp, the part of the Western brain that is customarily occupied by the Holocaust® and the evil Nazis was apparently occupied by Palestine’s Occupation and the evil Israelis:

    “German journalist Ulrich Sahm reported on the pro-Israel website that many of the youths who survived the massacre said they thought the killer, dressed as a police officer, was simulating Israeli crimes against Palestinians in the occupied territories. They believed that ‘the cruelty of the Israeli occupation’ was being demonstrated to them, Sahm wrote.”

  37. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 25, 2011 - 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Well the media continues to play the story down. HuffPost has stories about the NFL, the debt debate, Amy Winehouse, and a man waking up from the dead in a morgue! The same is true for Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. And I believe they refused to let the suspect be covered live when he spoke (which is the normal procedure in that country). It’s easy to get the impression the elites don’t like the story and don’t want it covered.

    • John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
      July 25, 2011 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

      It’s easy to get the impression the elites don’t like the story and don’t want it covered.

      My guess is that it is more of an inter-elite message being sent than a widely public one .

  38. Michael Hardesty's Gravatar Michael Hardesty
    July 25, 2011 - 4:31 pm | Permalink

    I guess the truth hurts, just noticed my earlier comment was deleted by the censor. David Irving’s site revealed that this guy was a radical Right, Homosexual, Pro-Israel Anti-Arab and anti-Muslim Racist par excellence.
    People from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to David Horowitz to the Ayn Rand Institute should be in the total contempt that they deserve for their relentless promotion of the new

  39. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    July 25, 2011 - 4:25 pm | Permalink

    I was on a Catholic website the day of the shootings speaking with a rare species, a Swedish Catholic. Scandinavians are totally delusional, they regard themselves as morally superior to the rest of Europe. The woman I chatted with is an economist and I asked her about the role of Swedish banks in wrecking the Baltic states. She simply could not countenance the possibility that Sweden is as corrupt as anywhere else.

    It reminded me of the 2004 Euro soccer championships when Sweden and Denmark fixed a 2-2 drawn game to eliminate Italy. A former Danish international was on the BBC trying to justify the impossible. The “beeb” tried its best also to assure their fellow Northern Europeans (as in us, the British public that there was nothing to see here and could we please move along) but the reality is the game was fixed, live on national TV in front of millions of people.

    This pseudo-intellectual Norwegian is the inevitable product of the weird environment which is contemporary Scandinavia. This appalling episode might teach the region some kind of humility but I doubt it.

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      July 25, 2011 - 4:58 pm | Permalink

      buckle: May a fellow Trad inquire what the name of the site is that you refer to?

  40. Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
    July 25, 2011 - 4:11 pm | Permalink

    WONDERFUL MR HARDESTY!!!!!!!!I am sick of the warmed over Christain conservative types who sneak into here.Are they kidding?If they seek to evangilize let them give money to Pat Roberrtson that Rothchild backed Mason Zionist Billionare or if Catholic Mother Angelca(Who was taken by Vatican 2 Neocons)or join the Zionist Tea Party and vote GOP.CONSERVATISEM IS DEAD.TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY AS WELL(THANk GOD!!.The Jews have taken them all,and if that weak deserved to fail.To think this site would have people so ready to compromise for a ‘tax cut’or some other REPUBLICAN tenant.So ready to send bombers onto innocent lands the Jews say are’evil’just because they might be of another race or creed chosen as HATE OF THE MONTH.So ready to remember WW1 and 2 as something good,just because they are’Patriots’.This movment is about culture.What is the best about who we are.Beauty,power,virility and fertility,and the health,welfare and happiness of our people so abused by the world Jewish system. ;plus the earth.,preserving its bounty and granduer.To those who think this leftist you are inmature.(Just like the neoconservative,Norway killer)to those who call this National Socialisem’I will quote the Horst Wessel song;’WE MARCH AGAINST THE REDS AND REACTIONARIES”.

    • Michael Hardesty's Gravatar Michael Hardesty
      July 25, 2011 - 11:35 pm | Permalink

      Thanks, Northern Light.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 25, 2011 - 11:43 pm | Permalink

      Northern Lights, no one remotely associated with concerns for White people go around quoting Horst Wessel. That’s not even a serious post.

  41. The Iron Boot's Gravatar The Iron Boot
    July 25, 2011 - 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Anders should take heart. There is a future for terrorists. Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrne are now famous scholars working within elite institutions. And May 68 Generation that called for violent overthrow of the system now control Europe. And Che Guevara, the man who extolled HATE as the greatest virtue and said a revolutionary must be a ‘cold killing machine’ is revered by leftists all around the world. Looks like Anders followed the leftist book down to the letter. Maybe he will be a professor one day in some university.

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      July 25, 2011 - 4:55 pm | Permalink

      Don’t forget Angela Davis. Who says crime doesn’t pay?

  42. Altot's Gravatar Altot
    July 25, 2011 - 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Some say he’s a Christian Zionist and argue that such views are incompatible with European Rightism, but I think that isn’t necessarily true.

    Brevik seems to admire Israel for rightwing or nationalist reasons. Zionists are fighting to save …their land from Muslim hordes. And I think we would support and admire Israel too but for the fact that Jews undermine nationalism in the West while promoting it in Israel. If most Jews in the West were rightwing, we would broker a deal whereby we support Israel and Jews support us.

    Breivik probably knows this. But he also knows he can’t attack Jews because of the Holocaust cult. So, he uses the term ‘cultural marxism’, which is codeword for Western Jewish Left. By supporting Zionism while attacking cultural marxism, he is essentially exposing Jewish hypocrisy, i.e. Jews are proud nationalists in Israel but subversive radicals in the West.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 10:52 pm | Permalink

      He supports Zionism because Zionists are nationalist fighting the same enemy, full stop. Zionists do not undermine nationalism in the West, that is the doing of “World Jewry” – the antithesis of a Zionist.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 11:08 pm | Permalink

      Brahms, don’t you think that is a distinction without a difference? “World Jewry” includes all Jews, including Zionists, which doubtless are the great majority.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 27, 2011 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

      I believe that the meaning of “world Jewry” is Jews not in Palestine; some say “diaspora Jews”. The strategy of World Jewry is assimilation through destruction of homogenous native population (destruction of culture, cohesiveness, religion, race ) through cultural marxism. Zionist Jews are anti-assimilation and believe Jewish success will come from separation and nationalism. There are plenty of similarities among all Jews but not among the two strategies, they are opposites. Hitler understood this difference. The best thing that could ever happen to the West is fall all Jews to become rapid Zionists.

      ” The solution of the Jewish problem is not in creating a Jewish state among other non Jewish states but in restructuring society into a solid internationalist cohesive structure.”

      Herzl’s Zionism was anti-assimilation
      “Wherever we remain politically secure for any length of time, we assimilate. I think this is not praiseworthy…”

  43. Andrea D. Merciless's Gravatar Andrea D. Merciless
    July 25, 2011 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Is he really a Christian Zionist? If so, he seems to think Muslim immigration will be bad for Jews as well. Indeed, many rightists are puzzled as to why Jews support immigration from the Muslim world into Europe when so many Muslims don’t like Jews.

    Maybe the answer can be found in the game of chess. To win in chess, you have to give up certain pieces in order to gain strategic advantage on the board. So, it’s simple-minded to wonder… “hmm, how does this guy hope to win when he’s giving up his pieces and even sacrificing certain pieces in gambits?” In fact, of course, the player loses certain pieces but gains greater dominance on the board. Chess cannot be won without gaining dominance over the board, and that cannot achieved without giving up certain pieces. So yes, more Muslims mean more anti-Jewish hostility in Europe. But it also means reduced power for the white majority that had been the bane of Jewish power for centuries.

    In a way, Breivik should be a sticky figure to Jews. On the one hand, he is the ultimate nightmare that Jews have feared: the crazy ultra-rightwing nationalist killer. Thankfully, he’s a lone nutjob but what if many Europeans were to come to share his views? Might it not lead to another Holocaust? For this reason, Jews feel safer in a more diverse Europe. (Ironically, otoh, it’s greater diversity which creates extreme figures like Breivik.)
    On the other hand, due to extensive Holocaust consciousness (or Holoconsciousness) and laws against antisemitism, even the European Right has become philosemitic. It’s as though the only acceptable way to be a European nationalist is in the defense of Jews and Israel. And Breivik fits that mold too. As Europe becomes more anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian(like the Norwegian Labour Party), Israel is in an uneasy position of having to forge closer ties with the European Right, among whom there are some extreme figures like Breivik.

    • Wayne's Gravatar Wayne
      July 26, 2011 - 12:46 am | Permalink

      Well said, Andrea! I suspect the very same thing. Regardless, since the act is already done, we must be practical and look at how it can serve our ends. This should be easy to do. Take a line from the Progressive playbook we’re so sick of: Bemoan the incident as tragic and senseless, then say that his irrational behaviour was a direct result of multi-culturalism, the same multi-culturalsim that allowed 800+ Norwegain women to be raped by immigrants. Then tie multi-culturalism to the labor party. As an added bonus, point out the double-standard with the abolitionist John Brown or Nelson Mandela, both which killed innocent people. Beat the liberals about the head with this over and over, don’t let them off the hook. It’s fun just to see them squirm.

  44. anymouse's Gravatar anymouse
    July 25, 2011 - 2:17 pm | Permalink

    I question the intelligence and life experience of anybody who would call Breivik a serious political thinker or Aryan Superman. His ideas are a combination of good and parochial. His physical appearance is closer to that of the Pillsbury Doughboy.

    Open racialists and judeo-critics do not become millionaires in the judeo-anglo capitalist mainstream. And no, Breivik is not attempting to outfox the jew by lying about his attitude toward them. Despite the growing ethnocentrism among Europe’s youth his writing is replete with anti-white and philo-judaic scribbling.

    Children and women are the traditional targets of jews and their tools.

  45. Harumphty_Dumpty's Gravatar Harumphty_Dumpty
    July 25, 2011 - 2:15 pm | Permalink

    What does one need to do here to have one’s posts put up immediately instead of having to await moderation?

    • Fynn's Gravatar Fynn
      July 25, 2011 - 8:58 pm | Permalink

      There are certain words that the computer program will catch if used, then your post will automatically be queued for moderation. One of those words is k*ll – among others I haven’t discovered.

  46. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 25, 2011 - 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Systemic, what is a religious kook like you doing posting on the website of an evolutionary psychologist? Doesn’t make a lot of sense, does it?

    Jesus – A Very Jewish Myth—a-very-jewish-myth/2079912

    Did Jesus really exist? There are many views about the origin of the Jesus story. This book makes the case for the Jesus story having developed out of existing Jewish messianic and apocalyptic literature and beliefs, with no historical person at the core of the story. This is an excellent book for both Christians and non-Christians, and actually takes a very close look at much of the symbolism and meaning of the New Testament scriptures in ways that will be very familiar to Christians. Readers will be introduced to all of the major points in the discussion of the historicity of Jesus, as well as all of the primary source materials that underly this topic. There is no other book on Jesus historicity that provides as much access to the relevant source materials.

  47. Philip's Gravatar Philip
    July 25, 2011 - 1:14 pm | Permalink

    The Norway case is an extreme example of what may increasingly happen in the future. As pro-immigration politicians subvert democracy (whenever they have the power) by the means of allowing in immigrants who will support them politically, more and more opponents of immigration will start acting outside of the system.

  48. Harumphty_Dumpty's Gravatar Harumphty_Dumpty
    July 25, 2011 - 12:49 pm | Permalink

    I just posted the comment below on my mainstream site,

    Thanks to several of you here for your links, and to all of you for your commentary.

    In his manifesto, Breivik expresses repeatedly his fanatical support for Israel.

    The Jerusalem Post says that in his manifesto, Breivik mentions Israel 359 times and “Jews” 324 times, and the Post describes Breivik as a supporter of “far-right Zionism”:

    Breivik killed the children of the Norwegian political class

    that has recently given official Norwegian government backing to Palestinian statehood

    and has divested the Norway Oil Fund from Israeli companies in protest of continued settlement construction in the West Bank:

    Also, the leader of the Labour youth group that was attacked at the camp said in an interview two days before Breivik’s attack that he “believes the time has come for more drastic measures against Israel, and (that he) wants the Foreign Minister to impose an economic boycott against the country.”

    This fact and related matters are discussed by the always interesting Gilad Atzmon, Israeli-born musician and commentator:

    I apologize for playing catch-up in this post, since I’m sure all of this is being heavily reported and discussed in the mainstream media and you are all way ahead of me in thinking about these facts.

  49. joeglas1's Gravatar joeglas1
    July 25, 2011 - 12:34 pm | Permalink

    I have the utmost respect for Mr. MacDonald,but citing a Serb site as factual in regards to Kosovo demographics in the past century is ludicrous.Its surprising to see that so many well-meaning academics and others in the West are still unwitting victims of Serb disinfo and propaganda.Serb colonization and land confiscation and massive expulsion of non-Serbs,Albanians in particular,from 1912 onwards is well-documented (for one,see the writings by University of Yale Prof. Ivo Banac on land reform and colonization carried out by the Serb regime in 1918 and 1919).It is the Albanians who comprised 64 % of the population in 1918 even following the massacres and expulsions of the two Balkan Wars of 1912 and 1913 and the following years.Serb forces during the period prior to 1924 made incursions into Albania as well and killed tens of thousands and destroyed 126 villages,The British Ambassador in Tirana,writing to London,states that he drove for six hours and didnt see a single house that wasnt gutted.Serb expansion by means of mass murder,colonization,expulsion and state terror over the past 100 some years has completely changed the demographics of Bosnia and Heregovina,Montenegro,the Sandžak region of Serbia,Croatia,Vojvodina and Croatia.In a little over one month in the autumn of 1944 Serb Partisans under Titos command murdered some 40.000 members of the Hungarian minority in Vojvodina,several thousand members of the German minority there and several thousand Croats in Vjvodina and in eastern Srijem during the same period,to mention just one instance of Serb hegemonism at work in the past century.

    • July 25, 2011 - 3:20 pm | Permalink

      Approximately 16 years ago in a neighbourhood park, my wife and I met a group of 5 refugee families from the former Yugoslavia (Bosnian, Serb and Croat). In 2 of the families, there were “mixed” mariages. Our convesation covered many topics, including why they were allowed into the country if there was no employment for them and the problem with their qualifications not being recognized. The theme that came through loud and clear was that while they spoke the same language, they were 3 religions and there were religious zealots responsible for the fighting. There was no mention of Serb expansionism.

      I worked with a woman whose family had come from Slovenia. When Slovenia separated there was no nasty comments about being under Serbian rule.

      You do a disservice to reality by not adding context. Tito had many people killed, but they were killed in the Stalinist method – because they were a threat to his view of the world. Thousands of Serbs died as well.
      Historically, Kosovo was Serbian. Hundreds of thousands of Serbs died battling the expansion of the Ottoman Empire. Albanians chose to be co-opted and suffered few repercussions, thus allowing them to out populate the Serbs in Kosovo.

      You do not mention the slaughter of Serbs by Kosovo Albanians and Croats.

      As for Albanians being the victims, tell that to the Italians in the southern areas where Albanian organized crime has driven out the Mafia.

  50. July 25, 2011 - 10:07 am | Permalink

    “Four important tasks we have to work on the next twenty years are the following:

    1. Have in place a cultural conservative newspaper with national distribution (which will be the only newspaper that will support the Progress Party in 4 years). For believe me, the Progress Party is going to be sabotaged and torpedoed. Their voter base of 35% will be “scared” down to 20%.”

    There is much more to this than meets the eye.
    His actions have begun the “scare down”.
    Ben Partin, a retired brigadier general in the United States Air Force, wrote a paper debunking the fertilizer bomb at Oklahoma City.
    There is a rumour that there was a police exercise taking place. If true, that would put it up there with London 7/7, and 9/11.
    His company had no real business.
    He had no visible means of support.

    Recent police statements about 100% of the gang rapes in Norway being perpetrated by non-whites, and suicides of young white victims because of the rape, have more impact on a population’s psyche to be anti-immigration than any of this man’s political ramblings.

    Any clear thinking independent political mind would understand that peace in the Middle East would reduce the number of refugees coming from the region. It would also recognize that Israel is the cause, not the solution.
    MK Ultra anyone?

  51. July 25, 2011 - 9:47 am | Permalink

    “In the meantime, between now and the Second Coming, could someone from “gun toting America” explain to me how one man could kill 90 teenagers and not one of them slug him over the head with a rock. True, I say this from the safety of gun control happy Canada but what is it I don’t understand?”

    I was having similar thoughts myself. If even one person on that island had had a firearm, Mr. Breivik wouldn’t have been able to carry out such a slaughter. 90+ is a staggeringly high body count.

    Is Norway as big on gun control as the People’s Republic of Canada is? I would never go camp out on a remote island without having a weapon with me, if only to protect me and my fellow campers from wildlife.

  52. July 25, 2011 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    “These were not adults he murdered, they were still children. How can children be traitors? They do not know any better.”

    Children who don’t know any better grow up to be adults who don’t know any better.

  53. July 25, 2011 - 9:08 am | Permalink

    “…along with the 10s of millions of white anti-whites conspirators” – the herd being lead by the judas goats.

  54. July 25, 2011 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    “Our main opponents are not the Jihadists but the facilitators—namely multiculturalists.”

    Well, at least he understands who the real enemy is, which puts him well above the average Fox News watcher in intelligence.

    I have a hard time believing that this guy doesn’t know that Cultural Marxism is jewish. I think he’s just being practical.

  55. Brian's Gravatar Brian
    July 25, 2011 - 7:10 am | Permalink

    People should understand WHO is behind multiculturalism. This is a good time to let Europeans where ever they live to know why the entire white western world is being over-run. Two quick links to inform our people

    Google: Jewish Involvement in shaping Immigration Policy” by California State University Professor Kevin MacDonald

    You Tube Video: “Jews Will Play A Leading Role In Multicultural Europe”

    Cut, past and post everywhere. Print out a copy of Professor MacDonald’s Immigration paper and give it educated and disaffected whites. I have a relative I gave this paper to whose a PhD from MIT – Now he . These are the kind of people we need to educated

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      July 25, 2011 - 8:18 am | Permalink

      Anti-white Jews are behind it, along with the 10s of millions of white anti-whites conspirators that agree with them and are working with them.

  56. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 25, 2011 - 7:02 am | Permalink

    Anders Behring Breivik is a classical GOLEM.

    What is a Golem??

    BTW is a factory site for Golems. That site is run by Jews and that’s the reason I stopped going there. Additionally, there are a number of people here at TOO I would considered as encouraging Golem making.. i.e. Squeaks.. just read his earlier posts.. Jews are good and Muslims are bad etc.. that is his line of thinking to the T..

    • Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
      July 25, 2011 - 7:14 am | Permalink

      But it’s not just him.. There are many many others here.. Lets just open our eyes..

  57. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 25, 2011 - 4:41 am | Permalink


    Every time you attack me, you make the baby Jesus cry.

    • Systemic's Gravatar Systemic
      July 25, 2011 - 12:48 pm | Permalink

      Hey Zog:
      “The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
      –Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

  58. maaldweb's Gravatar maaldweb
    July 25, 2011 - 4:38 am | Permalink

    @Richard V

    you wrote: “And you can’t say what they would have become”

    Can we please stop referring to 15-25 year olds as kids? Half of them could vote and they were voting for the islamification of Norway.
    Those teens had been brainwashed since childbirth to be anti-white and pro-immigration. Have you ever met any European leftists? The Left in Europe is not like the typical liberals you see in the US, they are heavily indoctrinated with methods and ideas inspired by the communists. Most of them are like zombies, they will get gangraped by blacks or muslims and they would argue that what happened is the result of white racism and oppression.

    • Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
      July 25, 2011 - 7:21 am | Permalink


      “Can we please stop referring to 15-25 year olds as kids? Half of them could vote and they were voting for the islamification of Norway.”

      You’re a f&*$%^g idiot!

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      July 25, 2011 - 8:28 am | Permalink

      “heavily indoctrinated”

      So you kill people because you say they are brainwashed?

      Well the problem is not with them, it is with you.

      If your deprogramming methods are not working, then you find deprogramming methods that do work. I listen to Horus the Avenger and read Bob Whitakers blog regularly and have no problem with deconstructing anti-white ideology, in front of any audience.

      So I suggest you search until you find a method that works for you, or you leave pro white politics for good.

      @Facio Libre
      Either that or he is a troll from some anti-white organization. He can’t do anything about being an anti-white troll, but saying stupid things is easy to fix.

  59. maaldweb's Gravatar maaldweb
    July 25, 2011 - 2:55 am | Permalink

    Everyone has different theories on Breivik’s motivation.

    Lets just look at the results of the attack. The Norwegian Labour Party’s future leadership was decapitated with a single blow. Such teenagers (not children) were brainwashed pro-immigration, anti-white, self-hating robots. They would grow to become the future MPs of the Labour Party and push for more immigration, more affirmative action, more gay rights, more feminism. They are the offspring of those who opened wide the gates and welcomed the third world and Islam to Norway.

    Are we supposed to cry for the loss of our enemies? Are we supposed to cry for the loss of the traitors of our people? Am I missing something?

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      July 25, 2011 - 3:42 am | Permalink

      Well they were children that were murdered and normal people would find that murder repulsive, but the murder of children is unthinkable.

      And you can’t say what they would have become. Many children rebel against their parents. And people do change their political views in life, so he could have killed future WN.

    • Jeff Hook's Gravatar Jeff Hook
      July 25, 2011 - 4:09 am | Permalink

      There’s a group photo of them standing in front of a huge, bright red flag with a picture of Nelson Mandela on it. Their AUF camp has a long history, being formed in 1927 by the Communist Youth League of Norway and financed by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

      Mandela, of course, was a founder and commander of Umkhonto we Sizwe (Spear of the Nation), the terrorist arm of the ANC that committed random bombing attacks on white civilians. To this day Mandela has never disowned or even criticized the organization. Indeed, after the transition to Black rule in 1994, the terrorist group was integrated into the new South African Defense Force.

      Rational discussion of why Anders Behring Breivik is willing to sacrifice himself in order to massacre the next generation of Norway’s Cultural Marxist elite is suppressed by treating it as support for mass murder, and so the whole situation comes to be seen by most people as irrational and inexplicable. Hardly.

    • John Norman Howard's Gravatar John Norman Howard
      July 25, 2011 - 10:32 am | Permalink

      Considering the children that are murdered every time a bomb is dropped from the skies by men we are told to consider “heroes”, I find all this hand-wringing off-putting.

  60. July 25, 2011 - 2:16 am | Permalink

    Before I offer my thoughts on this tragedy, I would like to ask the writer why he did not mention that at the end of the clip Breivik also appears in masonic dress.

    Now Norway has what Australia experienced on 28 April 1996 the Port Arthur Massacre – a lone gunman killed 35 persons. Result: A tightening of Australian gun laws.

    1. This clip allegedly uploaded by the self-confessed killer Anders Behring Breivik has been deleted by YouTube for offending against community standards.

    2. The mindset behind the video spells out the new dialectic is between Nationalism and Internationalism with emphasis on traditional Christian European values, and the addition of the Masonic factor means this world view would include the Jewish-Talmudic factor, which means predatory capitalism also gets covered as a compromise to Internationalism/Globalism.

    3. Ten years ago, on 9 September 2011, after the Capitalism/democracy-Communism
    dialectic lost its power, the new global dialectic was set between the free and democratic world and Muslim terrorism and attempts to enforce it saw numerous events occur that were clearly insider jobs, such as the 2003 WMDs, 7/7 London bombings, the Bali bombings,the recent Nigerian bombings, and others.

    4. That the 9/11 dialectic failed to set the world aflame was admitted by the USA when it wrote out of the global dialectic script its own created protagonist, Osama bin Laden.

    5. On 1 May 2011, which is Israel’s Holocaust Memorial Day, US soldiers allegedly assassinated Osama bin Laden hiding in a Pakistan compound. It took the US war machine, the most powerful in the world, a decade to hunt down this most powerful terrorist. Something just does not add up here.

    6. The dilemma faced by the neo-Marxist-liberal-politically correct dictatorship that currently has the sway of world politics is the refusal to confront the 1933-45 Adolf Hitler world view without employing the usual stock of self-serving fabrications and outright lies.

    7. Any commentator on world politics, when proposing a new world order, who falls into the trap and continues to espouse World War Two propaganda, has lost the plot. Using shut-up words to stifle an open debate, such as ‘hater’, ‘Holocaust (climate-change)denier’, ‘antisemite’, ‘racist’, ‘Nazi’, ‘xenophobe’, will not be accepted by the younger generation that devours information via the Internet.

    8. The free flow of information enables them to develop their own world view where ideals such as beauty, truth, courage, honesty, honour, freedom, etc. are values of inspiration, as opposed to ugliness and playing the victim of dependence, thereby becoming an autark individual within a socially self-sustaining environment.

    9. – and note how commentators are wielding out Adolf Hitler and Nazism and extreme Nationalism in order to come to grips with this Norwegian tragedy and to warn of the danger if Nationalism re-emerges as a viable political alternative. After all, so runs the spin: Economic problems gave rise to Adolf Hitler – and that led to absolute evil and homicidal gas chambers!

    • July 25, 2011 - 1:14 pm | Permalink

      Thanks for your work Mr. Toben. I watched the video of with Steven Lewis, a disgusting worm. I would think the fact that he quite clearly states his intent to *make you go bankrupt* would signal the court of an injustice. Good on you Mr. Toben.

    • Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
      July 25, 2011 - 2:19 pm | Permalink

      Mr. Toben, Your point #6 , that our enemies have a “dilemma” in refusing to “confront” the AH world view, sounds like you are out-of-touch with our times.

      There is zero need for our enemies to confront the AH world view. There is no dilemma here. It is a total non-issue. As for our kids, they are smoking dope, not speculating on world views.

      Your point #7, seems to include yourself. World War 2 is long-gone, except for folks who might read Buchanan’s WW2, the Unnecessary War. But the ideology of Total Hitler Hatred is alive and well. We cannot do anything about it except to do an “end-run” around it.

      Let them cackle on with hitler this and hitler that. We just need to avoid their trap, in getting into an unwinnable debate, and stick to the facts of immigration, the Jewish character of finance cannibal capitalism (maybe), and White losses.

      Especially in America, the home of pragmatism (this is not France), the arguments that work best are those that accord with ordinary folks’ every-day perceptions. The remarkable thing is that so many people are overcoming the lies of our enemies and just starting to talk like the child on the Emperor’s Clothes.

      Don’t confuse this “child” with a lot of abstruse material about an AH world view…this is what the jews , etc. want us to do.


    • John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
      July 25, 2011 - 11:57 pm | Permalink

      Hello Fredrick Toben ,

      I have read you and other courageous revisionists for years . You are man amongst mice , as has been said .
      Thanks for your work .

    • John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
      July 26, 2011 - 12:15 am | Permalink

      Mr. Toben, Your point #6 , that our enemies have a “dilemma” in refusing to “confront” the AH world view, sounds like you are out-of-touch with our times.

      I stongly disagree .
      IMO , when the world will not come to grips with some of the most sinister lies in all of world history , then there is no chance for real improvement .
      There is no time limit to righting monumental wrongs . WWII will not go away until seen in the light of truth and for the struggle that it really was .

  61. Riley DeWiley's Gravatar Riley DeWiley
    July 25, 2011 - 2:02 am | Permalink

    The White Terror is just beginning.

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      July 25, 2011 - 3:45 am | Permalink

      Sadly I agree with you. IMO this is the first shot fired in a civil war that is inevitable. I don’t know if it will come within 20 years, but it is coming. These anti-white Marxists have made sure of that.

  62. Observer's Gravatar Observer
    July 25, 2011 - 1:21 am | Permalink

    How many women and children have been slaughtered by the coalition of the willing, over a million? Is not Norway a member? Was it not a Norwegian ships captain of the Tampa that picked up a boatload of economic refugees in international waters and shamed Australia into taking them as they told the Captain that is where they were heading. Norway should cease being the Human rights champion of the world and start attending to their own peoples human rights…that’s their survival.

    A observer from Australia.

    • Wayne's Gravatar Wayne
      July 26, 2011 - 12:08 am | Permalink

      You hit the nail on the head. All Western countries should do that. Imagine, a white nation looking out for it’s own. Shocking!

  63. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    July 25, 2011 - 1:19 am | Permalink

    9-11 attacks coincided with government-run ‘terror prevention drills’ aimed @ identical targets.
    7-7 attacks coincided with government-run ‘terror prevention drills’ aimed @ identical targets.
    7-22 attacks coincided with government-run ‘terror prevention drills’ aimed @ identical targets.
    Are you fascinated yet ? I know I am !

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      July 25, 2011 - 1:39 am | Permalink

      To JDD:
      Idem the Port Arthur massacre, Australia. A mock exercise that morphed into the real helter-skelter.

  64. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    July 25, 2011 - 12:52 am | Permalink

    I will repeat here my experience in Norway 3 years ago. I have a big mouth. I just start conversations. When you travel, you are usually given something of a green light privilege….Uh,…Hi, I’m from San Francisco and would like…etc. close to 100% of the time, I got folks to talk to me. Almost always I steered conversation onto immigration. They young folks, like college kids, were more or less Pee-Cee, the young women more so than the young men, but were also courteous and willing to listen to me. I routinely assingned them reading with Philippe Rushton. Adults past , say 35, were beginning to doubt the whole liberal race lie. Many told me they were disgusted; the older they were the more disgusted they were, also including their feelings about some of the Parks architecture that was Modern as opposed to traditional.

    The single best remark I got was from a 40ish professional woman who was delighted with my big mouth and said, “We were very naive.” This woman had been indoctrinated with liberal race lies, along with everyone else. They are waking up. They see these Somalis and other non-whites in their villages, etc. There is zero interaction with them. I met one guy from a village or town who was leading the local campaign against the Oslo apparatchiks who had simply assigned about 100 non-whites, I think Somalis, to their town. He was outraged. This feeling was general in the over 40 folks I talked to.

    Now, what does this mean? I think it means that the Liberal Iron Curtain is rotting away, just as the communist Iron Curtain ultimately did. The facts of these stupid, useless, ugly, crime-prone non-whites right in your own home town, usually not working at all but on the dole….there is no need of Rushton for these folks. They see it , and feel it.

    We are in process. Things do not happen all at once, and as Komrad Marx said, Man makes his own history, but he does not make it just as he pleases. Marx was a Darwinian, and bestowed the term “Oriental Despotism” on the East, meaning it was outside the realm of European development and the Laws of History. He got it at least partially right. The laws of history have been subject to review, but not the genetics.

    Norwegians and Europeans are beginning their revolt against the liberal Iron Curtain. It is not going to happen overnight, but it is starting.

    So, the first thing, like the Hippocratic oath…is: “do no harm.” Things are moving, the counter-revolution is starting, we need to stay as calm as possible and not screw it up. J

  65. Jimmy's Gravatar Jimmy
    July 25, 2011 - 12:02 am | Permalink
  66. Baltasar Nordstrom's Gravatar Baltasar Nordstrom
    July 24, 2011 - 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Christianity certainly was “a historically powerful force for the preservation of Europe rather than mainly about religious faith).” I do think however that the faith was a critical part of that. All great civilizations have had a religion as an essential component. If it were not a rooted and functioning religion, I doubt it would have served as the powerful historical force it was. This is because most people need a religion and believe there is a transcendental or divine reality. That said, Christianity now seems to be a spent force in the West. I doubt that is can serve as a pillar of European (or American) preservation, never mind revival. We can blame this on Jewish and cultural Marxist erosion of the West’s religious base, but that implies there are no inherent defects and limitations in the religion itself that lead people’s faith to weaken or disappear. Without examining for the possibility of those defects, we would therefore risk a great mistake were we to attempt to re-found Europe and the U.S. on these religious beliefs, the mistake being one of error that is culturally unsustainable in the long run and consequently an inadequate civilizational basis. This is not to deny the tremendous good that has come out of Christianity, but rather to question the extent of its factual validity as well as its viability and effectiveness in the face of serious antithetical forces like Jewish antipathy, secularism, Islamic activism, and cultural Marxism. At this point in history, we cannot afford to build our castle upon sand if that is the case, and, as I mentioned, I do think Christianity is a spent force in the West.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 10:40 pm | Permalink

      I agree, modern Christianity is not the answer, but part of the problem. imo

    • Alexander's Gravatar Alexander
      July 24, 2011 - 10:57 pm | Permalink

      Christianity is not a spent force. Christianity is in apostasy and has been since about 1914. Before that it was merely in decline having suffered numerous breakaway sects. Modern Christianity is not merely part of the problem as Henry B suggests but is, IMHO, the whole of the problem.
      In the meantime, between now and the Second Coming, could someone from “gun toting America” explain to me how one man could kill 90 teenagers and not one of them slug him over the head with a rock. True, I say this from the safety of gun control happy Canada but what is it I don’t understand?

    • Laconophile's Gravatar Laconophile
      July 24, 2011 - 10:58 pm | Permalink

      I forgot who (Revilo Oliver?) called Christianity ‘ancient bolshevism’. I think it’s fitting.
      If you look at all of the failed communal attempts to follow NT ‘sermon on the mount’ Christianity fully and literally it’s hard to distinguish them from Marxist communes.

  67. Andrea D. Merciless's Gravatar Andrea D. Merciless
    July 24, 2011 - 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Some people say Breivik could not have been a real white nationalist because he killed his own kind. But plenty of nationalists have killed those deemed to be ‘traitors’, ‘heretics’, or ‘subversives’ even amongst their own kind. Hitler for one killed a whole bunch of fellow Nazis during the NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES. And Stalin killed a lot of fellow communists.
    So, there’s nothing out of the ordinary in Brevik killing Norwegians that he deemed to be traitors to the nation.
    And remember that Jewish nationalist who assassinated Rabin for being a traitor(and selling out West Bank to the Palestinians)?

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      July 24, 2011 - 11:10 pm | Permalink

      These were not adults he murdered, they were still children. How can children be traitors? They do not know any better.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 6:20 am | Permalink

      The Workers’ Youth League (Bokmål: Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking, Nynorsk: Arbeidaranes Ungdomsfylking, or AUF) is the youth organization affiliated with the Norwegian Labour Party.
      AUF was formed in April 1927, following the merger of Left Communist Youth League and Socialist Youth League of Norway. Its ideology is social democracy and democratic socialism. The current leader is Eskil Pedersen. Many former leading figures in AUF have gone on to serve in significant positions in government, such as the incumbent Prime Minister of Norway, Jens Stoltenberg.

    • July 25, 2011 - 9:13 am | Permalink

      Andrea, how can a white nationalist be for the jews and anti- racist? The only people Breivik seemed to have a problem with are *liberals* and Muslims, the same folks that Richard Perl has problems with.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      July 25, 2011 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

      They were at that summer camp because of their political views, they had presumably thought through the implications. They thought the best thing about Norway was liberal values and ‘openness’. The fact that they became murder victims does not make those political viewpoints any less wrong.

  68. Andrea D. Merciless's Gravatar Andrea D. Merciless
    July 24, 2011 - 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Did leftist Norwegians ever care about all those white women raped by Muslims and Africans? I think not. In fact, if anyone complained, he was denounced as a ‘racist’. I for one prefer Norwegian racism to ‘Immigrant’ rapism.

  69. Tatt's Gravatar Tatt
    July 24, 2011 - 9:40 pm | Permalink


    – I also know that the ideology that he espoused if followed will accomplish to goal of saving Norway.

    Finally my opinion….

    I do not know if it would save the United States as the US has a larger Jewish problem. I feel like in the US too many things are directly prevented or caused by the jewish population to the point that not having an understanding of judaism will cause you to misinterpret events and make a strategic error.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 6:18 am | Permalink

      Nice post. What is the answer when being a traitor is encouraged by the government. There is only one option.

  70. Tatt's Gravatar Tatt
    July 24, 2011 - 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Here are the things I know:

    – I know that the ‘innocent victims’ were comitting treason against the indigenous population. They should not have been murdered, but in saner times, they would have been tried in a court of law.

    – I know that Anders cannot be called anti-Jew.

    – I know that all of his suggestions in his book are good suggestions because they are Our Suggestions all written down into one manual.

    – I know that he did display the strength of one man. (that is not a negative or positive judgement)

    – Whether he has to answer to God for his crime, that’s his sin, not mine.

    – Those who condemn violence as being Un-Christian are really just putting their head in the sand. Currently the elite runs amok because we have no way to hold them accountable. Ideally, we would take people to court and expose them for what they really are.

  71. Mr. Dithers's Gravatar Mr. Dithers
    July 24, 2011 - 9:29 pm | Permalink

    I wonder why Anders didn’t target a Muslim housing project within Oslo instead of Marxist teeny boppers frolicking on an island? The only thing I can surmise is that he believed the teen progeny of Muslim coddling, Labour party elites were fair game based on the treasonous actions of their parents and elder relatives.

    Incidents like this really highlight the timidity and cravenness that pervades the white nationalist movement. No sooner than the dust settles I’m treated to the obligatory hand wringing and denunciations of violence as if that will endear potential allies or sworn enemies to us or change our dire circumstances for the better. Personally, I consider this murder spree a tactical blunder much like the OKC bombing but I’m not going to shed tears or waste time second guessing Anders like many seem to be doing.

    We face literal extinction and our racial and political enemies not only encourage but commit acts of violence against with virtual impunity. If some radical leftist group murdered a bunch of children of American conservative big wigs the only tears the leftist media would shed would be crocodile ones.

    • Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
      July 25, 2011 - 12:25 am | Permalink

      Dithering, “tactical error?” his whole anti-racist, “culturist,” zionist, extreme anti-muslimist, and one-dimensional view… totally confused intellectually (see my first post above on his “culturism”)…this is not a tactical error, it is a “strategic error” if the Goal is to secure White Civilization. The whole thing is demented. He is fixated, refuses socio-biology, science, and what we call bioculture. He has it totally back-asswards. He thinks Ideas come first, which is nonsense. Urges or impulses come first.

      Christianity and religion may or may not be true or untrue. What matters is whether they serve group interests, in our case, White interests. Breivik’s rejection of Racialism only leads to more liberalism with a religious face. It is total confusion, or worse, with regard to the jew connection.

      Violence: you do not deploy violence unless you can win. How winning is defined is open to debate, but there can be no debate about overwhelming public outrage about any particular act. Might makes Right to a very large degree. You want to get mighty? then get at a great groundswell of folks behind you. Right now that is politics, politics, politics, not guns. Guns may be in the future, but not now. Elections, as unromantic as it sounds, is the way forward. When elections are disallowed by the state, then the guns can and will come out. Self-defense, and self-defense that makes sense to our fellows, not some kind of abstract and emotional claim that killing the kids of our enemies will get us anywhere. Joe

  72. Elitism Planted in the Soil's Gravatar Elitism Planted in the Soil
    July 24, 2011 - 8:21 pm | Permalink
    • July 25, 2011 - 2:44 am | Permalink

      Good link. The blogs of the world are literally flooded with information and ideas about the massacre. There is so much out there. One can even begin to compare the variety of styles on the anti-Israel side.
      The internet blogs and internet social media are truly transforming the spread of information instantly throughout the world, to everyone who has internet connection. What used to be forever inside information is out in the open. Although it is out there with tons of other stuff. This transformation is historic, with still-developing unknown effects, and it is instantly across the whole planet, with ideas spread instantly between billions in different countries almost anywhere on earth.

  73. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 7:58 pm | Permalink

    It’s a perfect setup for WW3. They just need a couple of patsy Muslims with ties to Iran to blow up a Diversocrat conference at Brandeis University. Then we get a black President screaming “Remember Breivik,” unleashing the full force of the Big Gay Army unapologetically on the Muslim world in the name of the multicult. End of the West, end of Islam. The final order of manipulable chaos out of the ashes of ancient Tradition. Apocalypse.

  74. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    July 24, 2011 - 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Well, pigs are flying. The Jerusalem Post admits Breivek is a jew loving Pro Israel kinda guy. Obviously, not all jews are as bad as Caleb!

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 24, 2011 - 6:59 pm | Permalink
    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 7:03 pm | Permalink

      Wow they are admitting that? This blows my triple false flag combo theory.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 7:58 pm | Permalink

      This blows my triple false flag combo theory.

      It’s amazing he can be wrong so consistently yet project himself as sophisticated and knowledgeble. Chutzpah one supposes.

      “Al Qaeda” immediately took credit for the attack, the Jewish media publicized their confession, and if the shooter had not been caught, he would be attacking anyone who didn’t buy it as a “conspiracy theorist.” So it a false flag attack.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 8:05 pm | Permalink

      So you are positing a quadruple false flag attack with a modified half-twist. Interesting and certainly worthy of consideration. Now if only the media would play their role and even cover the darn thing.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 24, 2011 - 9:49 pm | Permalink

      They realize the false flag is so easy to spot nowadays, so they make their false flag operations flagrantly obvious, because everyone knows only badly camoflauged false flag operations are obvious, so they can deny it is a false flag operation because everyone knows they wouldn’t make it so obvious if it was a false flag operation, unless they were being setup to look like they were responisble for the false flag operation.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 10:30 pm | Permalink

      I have a better one Scooter, when something goes wrong and the propaganda gets too obvious, they sent out Megaphone spammers to bury us with snark. Personally though, I think you could have gone with a Jason Speaks style “UFO Lizard People” joke. Those are the funniest.

      It’s all pretty consistent, isn’t it. What? Jews run the media? Conspiracy theory! What, Jews run Hollywood? Anti-semitic conspiracy theory! What? AIPAC runs Congress – guess they forgot to invite me to the World Zionist Conspiracy Meeting!

      It’s all very Jerry Seinfeld isn’t it?

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 6:08 am | Permalink

      The same leftists that whine about Israel being an apartheid state are pro-multiculturalism in their own country.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 25, 2011 - 9:52 am | Permalink


      You have a point, but really, we are in the clear on this one. A pro jewish anti muslim guy did it. This site is world famous as not being pro jewish, plus we have the house negro Rehmat to prove we are not anti Muslim.

  75. Joe's Gravatar Joe
    July 24, 2011 - 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Israel Shamir and Gilad Atzmon link Behring Breivik to Zionism and Muslimphobia.


    Atzmon: Was the massacre in Norway a reaction to boycott Israel movement?

  76. Andrea D. Merciless's Gravatar Andrea D. Merciless
    July 24, 2011 - 6:15 pm | Permalink

    He’s kinda like Glenn Beck on steroids. ACT AGAINST THE JEW IN THE NAME OF THE JEW. What do Jews want most in the West? Open Borders and massive non-white immigration. To oppose it is deemed ‘racist’. So, how about calling for end to non-white immigration in the name of protecting Jews? This puts Jews in something of a spot.

    And keep in mind that Jews pulled the same shit on the West for a very long time. Leftwing Jews and Zionists often acted in their own tribal interest while pretending to be for some ‘higher cause’ for the good of everyone, especially non-Jews. Jewish communists in Russia said they were for THE WORKERS AND THE PEOPLE when, in fact, most Russian Jews supported communism because they thought it would be great for Jews.
    Jews push for Open Borders to create more ‘diversity’, which is good for the Jewish strategy of ‘divide and conquer’ among the goy populace, but Jews say it’s all for ‘justice’ and ‘equality’–and for the good of EVERYONE.
    And in the 1950s, Jewish communists in the US pretended to be for civil rights and liberties out of their love of the US Constitution when, in fact, they were really trying to keep radical leftism alive when it was against the ropes during the so-called “McCarthy Era”. Jews have played this game for a long time and very well.

    It could be guys like Glenn Beck and Breivik are really stupid/deranged OR playing the Jewish game against the Jews. Both fellas push for causes/policies opposed by most Jews but in the name of helping/saving Jews.

    Obama pulls the same stunt. Obama is clearly for black interests, but he always couches his policies in the name of ‘going beyond race’, racial healing, colorblind society, etc.

    So, it’s possible that Breivik’s pro-Zionism is, consciously or subconsciously, an attempt to subvert the Jewish agenda in the name of Jewish interests. If so, it’s not such a bad thing. After all, Jews incessantly push for anti-white policies on the basis that those are actually good for white people. Jews tell white folks that more non-white immigrants in the West will actually be good for white people. You see how Jews work?

    • Wayne's Gravatar Wayne
      July 26, 2011 - 12:17 am | Permalink

      Awesome post Andrea! I likewise have reason to suspect he was angling the whole Zionist/anti-Muslim argument to suit his agenda of ending multi-culturalism.

  77. Tom Brown's Gravatar Tom Brown
    July 24, 2011 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Anders Behring Breivik said, “Young people need solutions.”
    This pseudo intellectual masturbator murdered 95 of these youngsters–now there’s a solution for you Dr. Mac!

    • Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
      July 25, 2011 - 7:28 am | Permalink

      That is a cheap swipe my friend! Anders Behring Breivik is a classical Golem and you know it. In case you didn’t, you’re not that bright..

  78. Lancashire lad's Gravatar Lancashire lad
    July 24, 2011 - 4:55 pm | Permalink

    I have had the advantage of a day in analysing the political ideas of Mr Breivik in his rambling booklet and video. The core idea is in the video, where he argues that from 2002-06 there is no democratic solution for ‘cultural conservatives’ as the ‘cultural marxists’ have imported so many migrant voters, hence vigilante action by ‘knights’ is the way forward.

    Professor Macdonald is thus wrong to say he is a ‘serious political thinker’. He is advocating abandoning political persuasion for a terrorist agenda. And that on the basis of unsupported claims about demographics and voting patterns.

    • maaldweb's Gravatar maaldweb
      July 25, 2011 - 2:32 am | Permalink

      “And that on the basis of unsupported claims about demographics and voting patterns.”

      You aren’t serious are you? Muslims vote Labour and social-democrats in Europe and native European birthrates are sinking. Breivik was correct on his assessment.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 6:02 am | Permalink

      Whites are below 50% among America children – that is a demographic reality; your political persuasion strategy has about 15 years left here. I see no hope. Whites have maybe two elections left – if no radical change occurs during that time, the country will be lost.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 25, 2011 - 6:14 am | Permalink

      In 15 years things will surely be different and the writing will be on the wall for all but the most obtuse Whites. However, that doesn’t mean there won’t be hope, even at that point. Whites have gained control of entire societies even though they were only a small minority within them (South America, South Africa, India, etc).

      Even vastly outnumbered, Whites have shown themselves the fiercest competitors on earth. It is a question of getting them to stop handicapping themselves.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 6:54 am | Permalink


  79. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    July 24, 2011 - 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Whether or not a given terror attack happens to claim Jewish victims is an unreliable indicator. The number of kosher ones killed on 9-11 was sufficient for then mayor Rudy Jewliani to invite rabbis from every stream and sub-sect of Judaism to appear for the original victims commemoration ceremony.
    Shortly afterwards, George Bush The Lesser invades and smashes up one of Israel’s most lethal foes in the region. While the events unfold as though 1:1 according to the script outlined in the Clean Break policy paper prepared by Richard Perl alongside a group of recovering trotskyites and shabbos goys.
    Coincidence, you say ?

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      July 25, 2011 - 1:28 am | Permalink

      Only one Israeli national died in 9/11.

  80. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 24, 2011 - 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Jason Speaks
    July 24, 2011 – 7:45 am | Permalink

    While we can all critique Christianity, it isn’t going away. There is zero chance of Christianity fading from the White scene in the next 100 years, so I can’t see any way forward that alienates it.

    Wrong. The internet is making possible the widespread knowledge of the Jesus myth theory, which will be the final nail in the coffin of the twisted Semitic ideology known as “Christianity”.

    • chad's Gravatar chad
      July 24, 2011 - 8:14 pm | Permalink

      man z.o.g. you’re starting to make a fool of yourself guy. the other poster was right you are becoming a one trick pony.

      and what’s up with you hiding your identity behind that ridiculous super hero z.o.g. alias you always use? no matter what the topic all you ever talk about is “ending christianity.” you’re like a broken record.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 5:50 am | Permalink

      And ending Christianity will help how exactly?

    • Greg's Gravatar Greg
      July 26, 2011 - 12:19 am | Permalink

      He is a tad bit repetitive, but I think his point is that Christianity is not an inherently ethnic based religion, such as Judaism. Christianity promotes universalism and “acceptance” of other races. Furthermore, whites cannot operate for their own ethnic interests under the guise of religion, much like the Jews can. Judaism is basically one big ethnic club but it doesn’t get called out, because it’s their “religion.”

      Christianity makes whites weak and really hurts the nationalist cause, IMO.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 26, 2011 - 10:34 am | Permalink

      I think that’s true – its a slave’s religion. However, ending Christianity will not ipso facto strengthen nationalism and if anything will weaken it initially. There may be benefit in lifting silly “love everyone; we’re all brothers” morals. I think fighting against Christians will only divide whites in the short term – and we’re dealing with a short term scenario. Focus on our enemies not on our differences.

  81. Bohemianh's Gravatar Bohemianh
    July 24, 2011 - 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Seems there once were people called Vikings! The took action to solve the foreign influence pressed upon them. They were feared by the more “civilized people”. We have an individual who took action, the re action not what I would care for, I don’t really agree with his methods? However it shows the power of the individual European man once again! That one man can do something big! Change the current thinking, and popular thought of the masses.

    • Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
      July 25, 2011 - 7:31 am | Permalink

      You should have your head examined dude…

  82. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 24, 2011 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

    The media are barely covering the Norway event, considering how huge it is. Apparently it doesn’t fit into any narrative they are comfortable with or even understand. Amy Winehouse is getting more media play. It’s not even among the lead stories on Huffpost or Drudge.

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 24, 2011 - 4:47 pm | Permalink

      That’s probably because the Jews in the mass media don’t want the public to know that the killer is a rabid Christian Zionist pro-Israel neo-con.

  83. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 24, 2011 - 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Onward, Christian soldiers! Fight for Zionism and Israel!

  84. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    July 24, 2011 - 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Greg Johnson on Breivik:

    You have done far more, and far worse, than killing 90-odd Norwegians, as terrible as that may be. You have set back the cause of saving the white race as a whole from extinction. For the predictable consequences of this sort of pointless terrorism do not include the revival of the Knights Templar. Rather, they include (1) political crackdowns on dissenters, and (2) increased public resistance to our message by normal people, who are repulsed by mass murder, especially of cute blonde teenagers

    Contrary to what some will have you believe the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing had no real effect on the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Likewise, Breivik’s running amok (like a evil murdering bastard Viking, not a disciplined Templar) will have no real effect on the displacement of white people either way. The ellipse of whites is being caused by ‘tectonic’ cultural forces which are not altered by particular events. Those who think that their line of argument would have had an appreciable effect on the ellipse of whites, if only wider nationalism would stop “coddling the insane among us” are, as regards the likely course of events, more deluded than Breivik.

    Jared Lee Loughner was pretty disorganized in his thinking (probably insane). Judging by his book Breivik’s concerns have many similarities to nationalist thinking; KM was correct to discuss them, we need to be accurately informed.

    When the Knights Templar were charged with heresy the Dominicans followed the examples given in their training and presumed that Knights Templar were apostates; would be heretics; obviously involved in obscene rituals; homosexual. So they were tortured into confessing to endless sodomy.

    It is the same today with nationalists the government, police and semi-official anti (white) racist bodies ‘know’ that a white nationalist is on a slippery slope to committing racist violence. All the arguments about eschewing violence don’t alter that. Opposition to gay marriage is met with talk about the Holocaust. Verbally condemning all violence by individuals or the states (past present or future) is not going to rehabilitate White Nationalism. Nothing wrong with condemning violence, but there are immensely powerful forces working to maintain and intensify the perception of nationalist ideology as inducing violence in those who hold it.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 4:24 pm | Permalink

      the ellipse of whites is being caused by ‘tectonic’ cultural forces which are not altered by particular events.

      Great line that sums it all up.

    • Freki's Gravatar Freki
      July 24, 2011 - 4:27 pm | Permalink

      Good points. I’d like to add that I strongly dislike Johnson’s diagnostic approach. Does he have any educational/professional background as a psychologist/psychiatrist? I doubt it. And even if he did, no diagnoses could be made with any certainty without face-to-face examinations.

  85. Reloader's Gravatar Reloader
    July 24, 2011 - 3:33 pm | Permalink

    “All we need is the opportunity to debate and we will carry the day.”

    This is what bedwetters on our side don’t understand. You are never going to get that chance until physical retribution is assured to those that would silence us. Consistently.

    • I's Gravatar I
      July 24, 2011 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

      And how were the people that Breivik shot up “those who would silence us”? Are anti-Zionist activists “those who would silence us”? Is a pro-Israel anti-racist one of “us”?

    • Lancashire lad's Gravatar Lancashire lad
      July 24, 2011 - 5:21 pm | Permalink

      Reloader: “You are never going to get that chance until physical retribution is assured to those that would silence us.”
      That’s abandoning politics for assassination (see my analysis of the video below).

  86. Phil Iverson's Gravatar Phil Iverson
    July 24, 2011 - 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Why does this massacre remind me so much of the Port Arthur massacre of 1996! The official story hasn’t changed in 15 years but many have said that Martin Bryant couldn’t possibly of killed all those people that quickly, even if he was a trained military sniper! There must of been a number of military trained snipers helping him to do this! Add onto that the fact that he was borderline retarded! This massacre in Norway has been painted in much the same way as the Port Arthur massacre. Lone gunman, killed many people with an assault rifle etc. Anybody who has actually been in a
    war shooting at people will tell you that even if you have a fully automatic machine gun, (which this Norwegian didn’t) you will still have a very difficult time picking off more than a few people in a crowd, with each short burst of gunfire. The people are panicked, they run off in different directions, they duck etc. This makes it extremely difficult to hit people and even more difficult to hit them in the vital areas that will kill them! We have been programmed through Hollywood movies to think a certain way about how this happens and the Hollywood way is simply not true.

    My view on this massacre is that he has been mentally programmed (Manchurian Candidate style) by the Mossad/CIA/British Intelligence to do this and take the fall, and was aided by SAS style commandos. The whole purpose of this exercise is to keep the Europeans on the edge about Muslims and so called right-wing political extremists while gently dropping hints that he is not anti-Jewish. This gives the message that we are all in this together, Jews and Europeans against the Muslim menace. I also see another strategy for this is to keep the Europeans confused about who the right wingers are. Are the right-wingers pro Israel and against Muslims or are they European racialist, neo-Nazi haters who are against everybody who isn’t white. Sewing constant confusion such as this is a Jewish trademark and has been very successful in keeping European racialist parties small and disparate.

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 24, 2011 - 4:16 pm | Permalink

      I think you’re probably right.

  87. Andrea D. Merciless's Gravatar Andrea D. Merciless
    July 24, 2011 - 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Though what he did to those kids was evil & stupid, his actions had a perverse logic to it. Had he attacked Muslims/Africans, he would have been denounced as a ‘racist’. Had he gone after Jews, he would have been called a ‘Nazi’. Instead, he went after the white liberal elite in the name of Zionism(among other things). Since there isn’t much sympathy for dead whites, his violence was more acceptable & effective. After all, the pro-immigration policy is the product of white liberals, not Muslims or Africans. He went after the SOURCE. If one’s agenda is to fight and kill the beast, he must go for the headshot. All those European rightists who focus on Muslims and Africans are missing the point. Muslims and Africans are in Europe because of policies created, devised, and implemented by European liberals and leftists. If one wants to fight Open Borders, one must go after the MASTERMIND behind it. The MASTERMIND is the white liberal and leftist. Of course, Jews play an important role, but due to Holocaustianity, they are untouchable in the current political and moral climate. Instead, it’s better to expose the hypocrisy between Jewish nationalism in the Middle East and Jewish liberalism in the West. Breivik did just that. He committed his acts of violence in the name of Norway and Israel, implying that ‘If Jews have a right to defend their own homeland, so do Europeans.” This forces the Jews to accept liberalism/multiculturalis​m for Israel too OR accept nationalism for Europe too. They can’t have it both ways.

    And recall that Israel killed all those people in Gaza in the name of national security. Israel didn’t just kill teens but babies and little children and pregnant women–hundreds if not thousands of them. But the US media was okay with that cuz it’s owned by YOU KNOW WHO!!! If Israel has the right to do that for its safety, then so do Europeans. That seems to be Breivik’s hidden message.

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 24, 2011 - 4:19 pm | Permalink

      This forces the Jews to accept liberalism/multiculturalis​m for Israel too OR accept nationalism for Europe too. They can’t have it both ways.

      They can and they do. Have you learned nothing from reading TOO blog?

    • Andrea D. Merciless's Gravatar Andrea D. Merciless
      July 24, 2011 - 6:02 pm | Permalink

      Yes, they do but after events like this, it will be MORE DIFFICULT to carry on the charade, which was my point.

    • John Norman Howard's Gravatar John Norman Howard
      July 25, 2011 - 10:12 am | Permalink

      I think it would be better if that became his OVERT message… I’d like to hear him say, in no uncertain terms, that this was his motivation.

      That way the spin doctors and clueless man-on-the-street could not pervert nor ignore the message.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

      At his trial, Breivik will very likely reveal his motivation unless his defense lawyer is selected for him by his neocon associates, in which case he will likely indict all pro-White advocates.

  88. I love my peoople's Gravatar I love my peoople
    July 24, 2011 - 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Anyone who is human would agree that what Anders Behring Breivik did was reprehensible. This type of behavior must be strongly, strongly condemned by all of us who wish to save Western Civilization from colonization and replacement by the Third World.

    To save our people from eventual genocide, we must use LEGAL means, and never break the law. Our hearts go out to the grieving families of the 90 or so victims, the same way our hearts go out to the hundreds of thousands of European victims who are killed, raped, assaulted, or abused annually by the Third World hoards that are being imported and placed into our formerly safe communities by our “leaders.”

    I wish Breivik a quick execution and a speedy trip to Hell.

  89. July 24, 2011 - 2:41 pm | Permalink

    This is Prof. Kevin MacDonald’s assessment of Breivik.
    This in effect, approves of fighting Jewish Culture by the Jewish Vienna school.
    Breivik is eliminating the Race factor to please the Jews – he is piloted by Them.

    Breivik thinks that limiting this fight for survival to Cultural issues –
    will enable “Western Christian Civilisation” to survive.
    And does the learned Prof. think that the Rodents, will ever let us be?

    The Rodents want to extirpate the White Race off the face of the earth.
    They will not stop, never, till they exterminate us, or totally enslave us.
    This is a Race War: the Rodents view it that way – and so must We.

    Norman Lowell

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

      I has it again.Too many see things in terms of ideology and the pathetic remnants of that Jewish platform Christianity.THE PRIORITY in this fight are JEW/Isreal,and the preservations of ALL the distinct higher cultures of the beautful earth.I care not what ideology of the moment,color,or faith the enemy of the Jews are our friends.Unless this nagging reactionary conservatisem is overcome here and amongst the wider movment wwe will always loose.Brvins was not with us,nor should ANY of his views.HE WOULD KILL US ALL FOR THE JEWS.Just as FDR,Churchill and Stalin all seemingly desparate,did in alliance,.which are all the presant victorious ideologies who rule us today are symbolized amongst those three monsters.In Brvins mind and those of his neoconservative Christian ilk;The opponant is the enemy. In Jewish fashion they must be totally destroyed without compromise.Francis Parker Yockey who overode the left-right racket firmy explains this in his classic work :IMPERIUM .

  90. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Is Freemasonry the only remaining actionable philosophy in the West? Perhaps the act was meant to present what is supposed to be the leading philosophical front in the coming war against Islam. It’s preemptively derailing any notion that the coming war against Islam is pro-White or Christian. It’s finalizing and setting in stone the rationale. We’ll be fighting for gays and all the blessings of the multicult against the remnants of tradition or other cultural sovereignty. If there is at all an element of psyop to this event, this is it.

  91. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    July 24, 2011 - 2:10 pm | Permalink

    The Crusaders had nothing to do with Christianity. They were mostly war-lord militias and criminals who were shipped to the Holy land in the past as the Jews were dispatched to Holy Land after WW I under British mandate.

    The first Crusade was the result of the war between two Popes.

    The TIME magazine published Karen Armstrong’s article tiled “Islam, A Short History” (April 16, 2001) in which she wrote: “Islam’s great Caliph Omar Ibn Al Khatab gave Islam’s teachings a practical shape by showing justice and manifesting respect for other faiths. When Caliph Omar conquered Jerusalem from Christian Byzantines in 638, he insisted that the three faiths of Abraham coexist. He refused to pray in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher when he was escorted around the city by the Greek Orthodox Patriarch. Had he done so, he explained, the Muslims would have wanted to build a mosque there to commemorate the first Islamic prayer in Jerusalem. The Jews found their new Muslim rulers far more congenial than the Byzantines. The Christians had never allowed the Jews to reside permanently in the city, whereas Omar invited 70 Jewish families back. The Byzantines had left the Temple Mount in ruins and had even begun to use the Temple Mount as a garbage dump. Omar, according to a variety of accounts, was horrified to see this desecration. He helped clear it with his own hands, reconstructed the platform and built a simple wooden mosque on the Southern end, site of the al-Aqsa Mosque today”.

    • Bear's Gravatar Bear
      July 24, 2011 - 8:57 pm | Permalink

      Rhemat. Jihaad and Crusade had commercial, plunder aspects to them; that’s how they were in part financed and sustained. Your Jihaadis were only too happy to take sexual slaves and force them into concubinage as well as plunder for slaves, booty and land.

      Your people and your religion do no belong on the Continent. Not in Spain, not in Portugual, Not France where Martell defeated your Armies near Poitiers/Tours in the year 732. Your religion and people did not belong in Moscow or Warsaw either where they used to conduct annual plunder and slaving raids in the first milenium.

      The Crusades were a valid response to centuries of Muslim agression, Europe had to take the war from their homeland to the homelands of the agressor. Islam came off second best in a war it started. So now you cry.

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 25, 2011 - 1:30 am | Permalink

      @ Rehmat

      {“…The Crusaders…were mostly war-lord militias and criminals…”}

      The “moral indignation” of Muslims about the christian Crusades in the Holy Land is ridiculous.These Crusades,criminal in certain aspects as they may have been,lasted only two centuries in only a small part of the islamic world. But the islamic Jihad in Europe lasted far longer: 700 years in Spain,500 years in the Balkans and covered a far greater territory,often bringing oppression, robbery and slavery.Jihad not only attacked Europe but great parts of Asia as well,including India and the borderlands of China.In fact most of the islamic world was CREATED by Jihad.And yet so characteristic do the Muslims consider the Crusades for us,that they call us – even to this day – “crusaders”. The hypocrisy is staggering.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 8:26 am | Permalink

      In general, the Muslim masses are , for whatever reason, uneducated, fanatical and, in many cases, just plain stupid. Their hatreds take precedence over the facts, particularly where religion is involved.

  92. Voltaire's Gravatar Voltaire
    July 24, 2011 - 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Apparently few readers here know what occurred at this camp the day before the massacre.

    There was a gathering there supporting Palestinian rights and a boycott of Israeli goods. Somehow I don’t think there wouldn’t have been many Jewish kids in camp during this period because of this this boycott event. Or, for that matter, present the day after.

    The boycott event would have given one particular group a convenient reason not to be present. In other words, not “all” of the “Norwegian elite’s children” might have been present when the massacre took place. The previous day’s rally had the convenient effect of winnowing out one particular group’s attendance.

    Here is another very recent event that would have most definitely contributed to that group’s feeling that the other groups should be “taught a lesson.”

    Mike Rivero of the website “” has posted several of the shooter’s old blog comments. He wasn’t just mildly pro Israel, he was fanatically pro Israel, as bad at the worst Likkudnik.

    I think that the easiest way to determine if this was indeed a “false flag” would be to seen if any Jewish children were killed. Somehow, we might already getting an answer to this question. Notice the rapidly disappearing coverage of this event in the MSM. If Jewish kids had been killed the the screaming wouldn’t have lessened so quickly and the calls for “crackdowns and investigations” would have been far more intense.

    • I's Gravatar I
      July 24, 2011 - 3:25 pm | Permalink

      This act was, primarily, the killing of a large number of White, anti-Jewish activists by a pro-Jewish activist. It’s pretty striking to see how many people around here are supporting this guy. This had absolutely nothing to do with immigration or multiculturalism.

    • John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
      July 24, 2011 - 3:37 pm | Permalink

      Apparently few readers here know what occurred at this camp the day before the massacre.

      There was a gathering there supporting Palestinian rights and a boycott of Israeli goods.

      A very important detail .

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 24, 2011 - 3:51 pm | Permalink

      I don’t believe anyone on this site is “supporting” Breivik. They are speculating on his motive(s).

    • I's Gravatar I
      July 24, 2011 - 4:13 pm | Permalink

      Lots of people are saying “he killed the children of the elite who are destroying Norway”, with a general tone of approval, as though others are too weak or shortsighted to see the wisdom in his methods. I see no evidence whatsoever for the idea that he did this. In fact, the opposite appears to be true – there was an anti-Zionist rally on the island the day before, and Norway is in the front of the revolt against international Jewry, at least among European nations.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 5:17 pm | Permalink

      very recent event that would have most definitely contributed to that group’s feeling that the other groups should be “taught a lesson.”

      If I was an Israeli Jew I would hate pro-Palestinian Norwegians, I would think they were all a bunch of Nazis, and I would want to see their children killed. Many Jewish children have been killed in the Israel/Palestine conflict.

      This sort of thing is inevitable and it’s probably going to get worse.

  93. Felix Grubel's Gravatar Felix Grubel
    July 24, 2011 - 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Based on his writings the man sounds as if he is a Norwegian neocon.

  94. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 1:40 pm | Permalink

    As I delve deeper into the meaning of this event it becomes more and more amazing.

    I hate Freemasons even more than I hate Protestants. Because even though they are totally incapable of maintaining genuine culture, at least Protestants pay lip service to it. Freemasons are NWO all the way.

    So, now that the Freemason/Protestant/Jew NWO has completely destroyed the Catholic Church, there is no one left to actually defend traditional culture. So the Freemasons are forced to protect the Golden (scrambled) Egg from the Muslims! The irony is so thick it’s nearly impossible to fathom its depth.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 24, 2011 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

      If you only knew how insignificant Freemasons are today. They may have been a force in the past, but they are essentially nothing – repeat, nothing – today, at least in the U.S. Worry about something else.

    • Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
      July 24, 2011 - 7:14 pm | Permalink

      You know nothing of Freemasonry. They are everywhere. Repeat. Everywhere. Every town, village, city. Everywhere.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 7:20 pm | Permalink

      Anonymous is having a wee bit of fun with us. He knows “Freemasonry” has been benign and bland for generations.

    • Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
      July 24, 2011 - 7:31 pm | Permalink

      I know no such thing.

  95. Lew's Gravatar Lew
    July 24, 2011 - 1:26 pm | Permalink

    I’m way behind on this. I do not have time to read even this article much less the comments or other commentary around the Internet.

    However, I don’t believe the false flag angle should be completely ruled out at this point.

    Anders has succeeded in associating opposition to multiculturalism with the mass murder of children in the public mind. The likely effect is going to be more support for multiculturalism across Europe not less. The question naturally arises: who benefits? The answer is Western elites and by extension their agenda.

    The ideal scenario for Western elites is for Europeans to voluntarily embrace policies that will result in genocide. This way, the elites will not have to resort to police state or Stalinist measures to get what they want.

    Anders’ actions make it more likely people will continue to voluntarily choose multiculturalism.

  96. Heinrich's Gravatar Heinrich
    July 24, 2011 - 1:00 pm | Permalink

    This was just another Mossad False Flag Operation. It was only initated to punish Norway for not totally coming on board with the Jew World Order agenda, and to speed up the process of the de-Aryanization of Scandinavia.

    • Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
      July 24, 2011 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

      I disagree. This is a Jew World Order True Believer who didn’t understand that the multicult his own lodge endorsed was bigger than his ability to comprehend and milk. He thought it was going to be NWO light. He didn’t understand that it was NWO dark. With nothing left of what remained. If he’d gotten the true message he would have understood he was killing the sons and daughters of the higher ups of his own lodge. Oops.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 1:02 pm | Permalink

      Mr.Heinrich,Stone,Larson and Hess have made mavelous contributions here!Insightful,brilliant.

  97. rockingham race track's Gravatar rockingham race track
    July 24, 2011 - 12:56 pm | Permalink

    There are very few Jews in Norway. Maybe 4,000 or so. Jews are not bringing Muslims in. The sappy Norwegians are, the liberal ones are. Those opposed to the Muslim invasion of Europe have been hurt by this mass murdering idiot who killed only his own kind. He hated Muslims? He didn’t kill any, only his own Norwegians. This is as stupid as the Watts riot where blacks destroyed their own neighborhoods

    • Frank Edwin Stone's Gravatar Frank Edwin Stone
      July 25, 2011 - 12:38 am | Permalink


      A high percentage of the young victims were of Third World origin, as had already being reported.
      He saw the island as an incubator for the next generation of Multi-Kulti criminals, this time Imported Third Worlders with Norwegian passports. This symbolized everything he hated.

      However, Breivik is truly a choirboy compared to mass murderer Winston Churchill.
      In Dresden alone this bloodthirsty war criminal incinerated around 125 thousand Saxon women and children.
      The Anglo-Saxon Air Force slaughtering Saxon women and children to satisfy the blood lust of a truly evil man.

      Talk about killing your own people.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 25, 2011 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

      Rockingham, with very few jews in Norway, I’m suprised they have managed to survive, let alone prosper. Just think how great a society it would be with all the “contributions” from jews.
      As I’m sure you got the sarcasm, let me just say that it is proof white people can do fine without jews – and this one guy who went crazy was evidently pro zionist, to boot!

    • Wayne's Gravatar Wayne
      July 25, 2011 - 11:59 pm | Permalink

      I personally believed his comments regarding Israel and Muslims were tactical maneuvers. What he really feared and hated was multi-culturalism, all of it. Black christians as well as muslims. Since muslims are the majority of immigrants, if he can get Jewish sentiment against them, it would be a serious blow to immigration (Jews have lots of power in Norway) and at least a small victory for natives. I saw on the news this morning (CNN I think) that he was refused a public hearing to avoid his anti-muslim “rhetoric”. This is BS. They refused the hearing because he was going to denounce multi-culturalism! Elites don’t care about muslims, only that they are a useful tool to destroy the West.

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 26, 2011 - 6:35 am | Permalink

      @ rockingham race track

      { “…There are very few Jews in Norway.Maybe 4.000 or so.Jews are not bringing Muslims in…”}

      The argument – often used by Jews – that there are “too few” Jews in a given country to be harmful is a spurious one.Jews are highly intelligent and highly ambitious and therefore wield influence far beyond their numbers.Jews contradict their own argument when for example they point to the fact that some 25% of all Nobel prizes have been won by Jews while they only are 0,25 % of the world’s population.If such a small number of Jews can achieve positive results disproportionally,why cannot a small number of Jews be the cause of negative results disproportionally?

      On closer inspection it is almost always the case that behind destructive movements there are Jews.When you see negative developments that go against the interests of a given population it is advisable to CHERCHEZ LE JUIF.

  98. Shawn's Gravatar Shawn
    July 24, 2011 - 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Political change is a “top down” thing. It is likely that the shooter thought that he could tap very primal fears in the existing leaders by going after their children, or maybe even themselves.

    The people turned on the leaders during the French Revolution.

  99. Thomas Mallon's Gravatar Thomas Mallon
    July 24, 2011 - 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Apparently the camp that was attacked was also a breeding ground for multiculturalist ideologues:

    Ultimately governments which promote this promiscuous immigration without regard for consequences bear a great burden of responsibility.

  100. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Educate people on how the state maintains its power.



  101. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 11:51 am | Permalink

    He struck where the blame most justly lies. You can’t blame Muslims for being Muslims. But you can blame native leaders for not giving a crap about native populations, mores and customs.

    • Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
      July 25, 2011 - 1:51 pm | Permalink

      agreed, his target was correct, the elite social democratic liberals. However, going after their kids was weird, and will only be seen as monstrous. Assassination of political leaders is perceived as within the bounds of ,
      “that’s the way it goes” by most folks. They may condemn it, but they are not driven to their wit’s end by it.

      I understand that the old Italian mafia put family off-limits for assassination.

      Those are family values.

      When you start killing kids you have crossed some kind of mental health boundary. All those here who state that it is ok, should go out and kill some kids themselves, and thus avoid the charge of hypocrisy.

      You may recall the Zebra killers of the SF bay area back in the early 70s, They were black muslims and also affiliated with a statewide group of blacks who probably murdered about 75 Whites as part of an initiation ritual.
      Around SF, I think the number of dead Whites was about 15 before they were caught. Thanks to black IQ, they were using a .32 that left some folks only wounded. They shot Mayor Agnos, a liberal, who remained a liberal..alive.

      Point: these guys put a premium on killing white kids. More or less this was the formula: you had to kill 10 white men, OR, 5 white women, OR, 3 white kids as your initiation. Even these niggers recognized a certain, shall we say, heinous, character to killing kids, even white kids.

      Some of the folks here don’t seem as morally advanced as our niggers.

      Conclusion: assassination may or may not be useful. But murdering kids puts one into the ranks of psychopaths, and Old Testament jews and present-day likudniks.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 2:32 pm | Permalink

      @Joe Webb
      You are right, Joe. We can make our case without condoning the shooting of children.

    • Wayne's Gravatar Wayne
      July 25, 2011 - 11:48 pm | Permalink

      Right on! White only need think about how this event can benefit them. This was a tragic event, but was caused by multi-culturalism, which was caused by the labor party. Therefore, though tragic, the labor party brought it all on themselves, case closed.

  102. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 11:48 am | Permalink

    Sure, most educated people let the useful idiots send their kids off to war and then sit back and talk about education.

    Yes indeed. A complex and dangerous situation. Let’s talk about it. I think that’s what they were doing during the Holodomor as well.

    Believe me, I’m not doing a thing. I’m fat and happy. But I’m also not spouting 20 year old hackneyed ineffectual garbage about the effectiveness of education while the opposition grows exponentially larger around us.

    • July 24, 2011 - 12:01 pm | Permalink

      May be you should be doing something like organizing people and letting them know why they shouldn’t be sending their children off to war for a state that hold them in contempt.

    • Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
      July 24, 2011 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

      You don’t know that I’m not.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 5:03 am | Permalink

      White kids are under 50% in America right now – the game is over. Cities will fall into third world status one by one as they are taken over by non-whites; whites will continue white flight until the country is balkanized and then war will come. The shooter in Norway understands the pattern and is trying to start the war while Norway is still white. Painting him as a Christian Zionist is ridiculous – he’s a nationalist.

  103. schlageter's Gravatar schlageter
    July 24, 2011 - 11:43 am | Permalink

    re: norway

    I havent watched his video or read his blog entries…but think about from this perspective: he knew he would be relatively powerless to combat each and every Muslim/ immigrant criminal currently raping, murdering, and defiling a once docile country. he likely rationalized that the best way to tackle the problem was to take the fight directly to the facilitators of the multi-kulti policies which have enabled these criminals to run rampant. therefore, he attacked Stoltenberg and his leftist party in Oslo, and more importantly tried to amputate the future leadership of the organization–the future leftist agitators, jurists, and parliamentarians being schooled at the indoctrination camp on the island.

    I’m not condoning the action, nor do i see him as truly “right-wing” in a pan-European sense (more like a Christian Zionist).

    Of course, the focus of rage will come down on true adherants to the former while the latter, as always, will be scot free.

    • Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
      July 24, 2011 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

      Very well said.

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 26, 2011 - 5:44 am | Permalink

      He decided to attack the cause rather than the effects. Makes sense to me. Only, we have to find a way that is morally acceptable. Any suggestions?

  104. Rick's Gravatar Rick
    July 24, 2011 - 11:39 am | Permalink


    I find it disgusting that you would reprint eager approval of violence against White children alongside Trainspotter’s clearheaded analysis at your website, and call it toss up as to who has the better argument.

    • July 24, 2011 - 1:02 pm | Permalink

      But you missed my point: I don’t know how to answer to this guy. Arguments please…

  105. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 11:38 am | Permalink

    Sorry. That’s so tired. Shall we also continue to send our children off to kill Afghans while we spend the next 50 years trying to educate people that we don’t need to kill ourselves because our forefathers were slave owners, just to make sure nobody feels threatened by our beliefs? Because Lord knows, nothing bends power like a good, educated argument.

    • July 24, 2011 - 11:42 am | Permalink

      An educated person wouldn’t join the military or support the government through violence. You want a quick and easy answer to a complex and dangerous situation, most fourteen year old do.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 10:34 pm | Permalink

      While I agree that knowledge is NOT power, neither is a few hundred or few thousand WNs with guns…or several lone wolfs..or Clan type resistance for that matter. Thats just what they WANT us to do.
      But when MILLIONS of people learn what is happening to them via the web, THEN we will have the power!

  106. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 10:59 am | Permalink

    So multicult leaders in Norway aren’t going to think twice now about what they are doing to their native populations? Sure, Breivik was anti-Muslim immigration for all the wrong reasons, but he was still anti-Muslim immigration and he did something about it.

    Is there any act whatsoever that any nationalist of any flavor can undertake that won’t fall right into the CIA/Mossad/NWO playbook?

    • July 24, 2011 - 11:18 am | Permalink

      Yes, educated people on how the state maintains their control. Organize native population into political groups to defend their rights and borders through the law. But don’t attack specific immigrate groups. Violence is what the state wants. An informed, truly educated populous is the only true threat to the state.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 11:46 am | Permalink

      “educate people on how the state maintains control”

      You hit the nail exactly on its head. Thanks.

    • Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
      July 24, 2011 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

      Yes. Do it the way 90% of ordinary folks want it done, without violence.

      The people who say that WN will never get over 10 or 20% of the vote…where is the evidence for this claim? Anti-immigration voting and polls in the US show a majority, some times a large majority voting for anti-immigration candidates.

      Europe is going nationalist…the trend is very strong. With continuing economic problems with the EU, and the heat being turned up in Europe generally around immigration…things are changing rapidly.

      Now, please someone give me an argument as to just how the WN vote will never rise above 20 in Europe when it is doing so right now in the US. j

  107. July 24, 2011 - 10:32 am | Permalink

    Multiculturalism is good for the imperialist STATE. It allows the State to play races and cultures off one another and then under the guise of keeping peace construct a police state. Breivik was pro-multicultural which means he wasn’t for the majority of Norwegians or Norwegian culture. His actions play perfectly into the hands of the imperialist State. Traditional societies have a dominate culture and make no apologies for it which is why the CIA/Mossad/MI5/Al-CIAduh (Saudi) have used discontent minorities to undermine traditional, homogenous, governments like Iraq (think Kurds), Serbia (KLA), Libya (rebel clowns) and many others. Afghanistan is where al-Qaeda was invented.

    The American people have been neutralized for a very long time with multiculturalism. We didn’t want the first or second world wars. We didn’t want Iraq or Libya. Our government was sending arms to the Mushahadeen (the forerunner of al-Qaeda) in Afghanistan to fight the Russians invasion but you will notice we haven’t gotten out. The ancient Greeks used the battle cry of Liberty for every one of their wars, it seems nothing has changed. Our schools do not teach history anymore for a reason.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 11:40 am | Permalink


      Jim Jones (Jonestown Massacre) is a good example, His lust for absolute power, both political and sexual, was a result of being raised by a doting single mother. leading to his egocentric world view.
      In keeping with NATURAL LAW (Newtons Third Law of Motion) the more he loved himself, the lower his opinion of others, especially women. By welcoming all as equals, he greatly enlarged his prospective gene pool (in which he went swimming with whoever his warped ego dictated) good for him, but deadly to all the kool-aid drinkers.

  108. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    July 24, 2011 - 10:09 am | Permalink

    Some reporting is going on that the island camp had many sons and daughters of the ruling political party there, they were his targets, and many of the children murdered were related to the elite, including sitting representatives. The camp was referred to as one for “current and future elites.” Additionally, he apparently recorded his planning over the last several months, so his thinking will be studied for awhile.

    From what I gather so far, he intended this to be an inspiration for other Israeli loving anti Muslims, while the press appears to be portraying him as a fundamentalist pro European, anti Muslim Christian – predictably with no mention of his zionism, as other commentors here have also pointed out.

  109. Fynn's Gravatar Fynn
    July 24, 2011 - 10:07 am | Permalink

    That some of his ideas are “serious” doesn’t imply an endorsement of his act, or all his ideas. Most lone mass-murderers are indeed kooks and in no way cogent, so it is of interest that this guy is different. At first I didn’t absorb that his targets were not random. The body count alone ensures that his trial will receive coverage in Norway (if he makes it that far), but I bet it will be largely ignored in the rest of the western media. He is right about the Norwegian ruling elite being under the thrall of multiculturalists in the major western governments. It will be interesting to see if this is used as an excuse for more repression – tougher gun laws and anti-free speech laws.

  110. July 24, 2011 - 9:59 am | Permalink

    What Sean Grant said several times. Multiculti’s do violence daily and produce children like themselves, even though the violence is more subtle and is done behind a smiley face -“I’m here to help you / I know what I’m doing”. Liars bearing children who are destined to be liars like themselves.

    Rev. 2:23.”..and I will slay her children with death”. The multiculti’s are busy sowing death so they reap what they sow, only it comes upon their children, the delights of their eyes. This is how consequences of behavior sometimes occurs to get the attention of those concerned.

  111. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 9:36 am | Permalink

    Let’s just all spend the next month wearing black armbands and marching on state capitols to “Stop the Hate.” It’s disgusting to see so many of you groveling under the building to make sure everyone knows you “don’t think like that.” Well, our enemies do. And I guarantee you that if anything is ever to be done before we’re all marched off to our own gulag, it will be equally as unpretty as what has occurred. Sorry.

  112. Trainspotter's Gravatar Trainspotter
    July 24, 2011 - 9:34 am | Permalink

    Wandrin: “I don’t really want to debate this as it will sound like i support tactics that are this extreme but i think he’s thought this through and the consequences aren’t as predictable as you think.”

    Then don’t consider it a debate, but simply a clarification of my position.

    The consequences are predictable, at least up to a point. It is entirely predictable that his action will/has appalled the bulk of the white population. That took no great prescience, anyone who is not a half loon would have known as much. Entirely predictable.

    Now, it may turn out that things are reaching a boil in Europe, but if so that would be due to larger forces and dynamics, not this guy. The slaughter of unarmed teenagers, innocents in a sea of the guilty, is not going to inspire the kind of movement that can win. He could have hurt the traitorous elites, and hurt them badly, in any number of ways. Ways that would have garnered every bit as much news coverage. But he choose to slaughter innocent teenagers.

    Any movement that arises, whether legal or violent, will do so in spite of this atrocity, not because of it. He has made progress of any kind less likely, not more likely.

    Cui bono? How is it that from McVeigh back to the church bombings, never does a “right winger” choose a target that causes a normal and reasonably sympathetic white to think to himself: “Well, the bomber shouldn’t have done that…but those people had it coming.”

    That should be a pretty simple standard to achieve, as there is no shortage of bad guys out there. But somehow this simple standard is never achieved. Never. One might ask as to why that is.

    Again, cui bono? I can tell you who doesn’t benefit: those of us who seek to reclaim our homelands.

    Having said all of that, as I’ve written elsewhere, I don’t think this is the end of the world. We are getting fairly late in the game, and events are likely to take on a life of their own. If not now, then in the not too distant future. Regardless, connecting in the public mind white resistance with the mass killing of teenagers is absolutely nuts.

  113. Thomas Mallon's Gravatar Thomas Mallon
    July 24, 2011 - 9:22 am | Permalink

    The Catholic view on immgration is the most realistic and balanced

  114. Denys Picard's Gravatar Denys Picard
    July 24, 2011 - 9:22 am | Permalink

    Thank you to Prof. MacDonald for these 2 blogs on the Oslo events. I must say that I am not dissatisfied to find that Breivik’s ideology is closer to Zionism than to Christianity. As the Prof pointed out, his ideology is filled with shortcomings, his strategy is absent, and as for his actions last Friday, I will resist any comments.
    Yet, despite what a little bit of research needed to allow identifying Breivik’s agenda as Zionist Neo-Conservatism, the Main Stream Media persists in generalizing him as a Christian only with a right Christian agenda.
    Among the incomplete analysis and associations he presents or adhere to, they are 2 which caught my attention. The first one has to do with the burning of cars in the Paris suburbs prior to the 2007 French election. Breivik appears blind to the fact that Sarkozy made quite a revealing statement soon after his election. While people wanted him to take drastic actions against the local Muslim community he said in an interview and to the best of my recollection: “these people may not be highly integrated but they have great leadership qualities in those communities, they have great leaders.” Not many reacted to these comments but for me it was clear that what Sarkozy was saying is that those leaders did what the UMP wanted them to do to make sure that Sarkozy would win. And that is why I have always felt that LePen’s (Jean-Marie) comments were more genuine than Sarkozy’s who only demonstrate excessive unbalance opportunism and economic elitism, even if LePen never expressed his vision very adroitly.
    There obviously was a shift in Sarkozy’s attitude and he took the same steps has other very pro-Jewish pro-Israel European statesperson by declaring that “Multiculturalism has failed”, yet he meant it from a typical Jewish standpoint, that is not Multiculturalism as a politico-economic system, but in regards to Muslims. This is a trait that characterizes NeoCon ideology as pointed out by Prof. MacDonald in his essay on Neo-conservatism as a Jewish Intellectual movement. For Sarkozy, his Jewish identity is at the front, yet he publicizes mostly his Christian faith, I believe for political reasons; and obviously he has revealed himself a total Neo-conservative European. This is quite a new breed in the European context in this new century, I believe; but I may be mistaken.
    The other interesting fact is the reference by the Vienna school to the support for, among others, Maronites and Cops. This is interesting, because from my observations, both these groups act in terms of ethnocentrism a lot more like the Jewish diaspora than as Christians. They have a strong perception of persecution through history, are highly opportunistic, resist assimilation, and finally deviate from the universal Christian form of altruism, yet their belonging to the Christian identity often have them act as bridges between Jewish local communities and Christian communities.
    I have yet to read on these groups from prof. MacDonald, but I believe, if I remember well, that there is mention of them in CoC.
    Lastly, and with a sense of disgust at the events of Oslo, I would like to underline the emergency of reacting against Main Stream Media indoctrination in destroying the Christian Church and Faith every time they can serve us generalities like the religious identity of Breivik. Thank you again to prof. MacDonald.

  115. Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
    July 24, 2011 - 8:51 am | Permalink

    A couple of points.

    1) Could this post not have been posted, like, after the mourning period is over? I agree with those commenters who think this comes through as insensitive. Maybe because it is insensitive. Or maybe it’s just me who is being oversensitive?

    2) A lot of horrible mass-murderers had thoughts that are remarkable. Mao Zedong had very clever theories about guerrilla warfare, and one can praise them even while in the same time fully aware what a genocidal mass murderer he was. This guy was an innocent girl from the kindergarten in comparison to Mao Zedong. This post might have been appropriate (in my mind, that is) a short time later. Like after the victims are buried, or something like that.

    3) I think the act was counterproductive.

    4) It was also morally abhorrent.

    5) Is there a source for the Norwegian media being owned by a Swedish-Jewish family?

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 24, 2011 - 10:47 am | Permalink

      I think you mean the Swedish BONNIER family who is of Ashkenazi-Jewish origin.They control the Swedish Bonnier Group that had in 2008 a revenue of 4,13 billion in US $.They have media interests not only in Scandinavia but in the whole Western world.For Norway I could find only magazines,a movie chain and distribution company and a book publishing company.No newspapers or TV channels are mentioned.For further information see Wikipedia:Bonnier family and Bonnier Group.

    • Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
      July 24, 2011 - 12:13 pm | Permalink

      Thank you, Franklin!

  116. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    July 24, 2011 - 8:22 am | Permalink

    Many on here advocate (from the armchair) similar violence to that executed by this tragic figure but Breivik’s conclusion of either a Stalinist state or ethnic meltdown is a false dichotomy. There are other options and this Norwegian pseudo-intellectual failed to explore them and a disgraceful price is now being paid for that failure.

  117. Petronius's Gravatar Petronius
    July 24, 2011 - 7:42 am | Permalink

    Can we please never forget to point out that this was purely psychopathic, psychotic act of an intelligent but sick mind that snapped? That puts everything else in place. All this was pure, nonsensical, politically devasting and backfiring evil. The media will try to defame his thought by downplaying this. A shitstorm from hell is approaching the Right from now on.

    • Reloader's Gravatar Reloader
      July 24, 2011 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

      Hurry Petronis! Head for the hills as fast as you can! Oh, don’t forget to delete all your accounts and email before you run out the door!

  118. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    July 24, 2011 - 7:36 am | Permalink

    We need Natural Polarization….the more or less total segregation of the sexes, races etc. NOT Christianity, Christianity is part of the PROBLEM.
    While Islam is but the latest manifestation of the false god of the jews ie. the god of Abraham, at least they have stable families, and they don’t view Jews as Gods like Chistians do.
    Its time to get off the horse that brought us to this sorry state. jmo.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 7:45 am | Permalink

      While we can all critique Christianity, it isn’t going away. There is zero chance of Christianity fading from the White scene in the next 100 years, so I can’t see any way forward that alienates it.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 9:08 am | Permalink

      If thats the case then there is zero chance of a white homeland in that same 100 years.

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 24, 2011 - 9:16 am | Permalink

      Just like Muslims (real) Christians too have stable families and they didn’t view Jews as gods until the Rothschilds pulled their Scofield-Bible trick.Christianity like the rest of Western culture has been hyjacked by Jews and Marxists.It wasn’t always that way.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 9:18 am | Permalink

      I forgot to mention that it IS going away (thank god) Islam is the worlds fastest growing religion…I guess the young are rejecting the hypocrisy and decadence of their Christian parents.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 9:38 am | Permalink

      Franklin R.
      “It wasn’t always this way”

      Yes, I agree, But its this way now. I have no problem with individual Christians who REJECT modern culture. But they are so few as to be irrelavant.
      As long as most westerners PROFESS Christianity, while at the same time implicitly condoning/approving their racial, cultural death with laws such as free sex, multiculti, universal sufrage, “equality” etc. I personally will continue to believe what they DO as opposed to what they SAY. It was Jesus who said “thou shalt know them by their works”, not me, but in this case I agree with him.

    • Wayne's Gravatar Wayne
      July 25, 2011 - 11:37 pm | Permalink

      I argue with center-right conservatives often saying that they WILL accept gay marriage, it is inevitable. The reason is they accepted the civil rights movement, now they will not be able to avoid gay marriage which is being argued on the same grounds. Also, Christianity is growing, in Subsarharan Africa. Look for chuches to begin inportation even more than now.

  119. Bengt's Gravatar Bengt
    July 24, 2011 - 7:25 am | Permalink

    I’ve done more reading on Breivik. He is certainly not a “serious political thinker”, as Dr. MacDonald writes. He is a neocon, zionist crackpot.

    “In general, it must be said that he is a serious political thinker with a great many insights and some good practical ideas on strategy”

    These words will come back to haunt Dr. MacDonald. I am sorry to see that the most important living scholar foolishly provides his enemies with ammunition by praising the political thinking of one of history’s worst mass murderers.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      July 24, 2011 - 12:38 pm | Permalink

      What makes Breivik a “serious political thinker”, is his understanding that nationalism will not, cannot, win over the majority of whites while whites are still in a voting majority.

      Ethnocentric movements like the BNP and National Front are not successful and will never be able to get over 10% support (GDP [i.e., the BNP] 5%, the UN [National Front] has 7%).

      I think around 20% is the ceiling myself but Breivik was totally realistic in saying whites are going to become a minority. I agree with Prof. MacDonald that:-

      Indeed, one of (Breivik’s) insights is that in the long run “the multi-cultural neocolonial regimes will either have imploded or have become very Stalinist.”

      The political and intellectual elite are the only ones who matter, and they are viscerally opposed to nationalism. They will never accept the need for measures to limit immigration but only partially because they are brainwashed by a culture hostile to white identity. IMO the main reason is the genetic differences that have been bred into white people as a result of the process of genetic remodeling through occupational that Gregory Clark has identified . The governing class has a high degree of ‘Effortful Control, Explicit Processing, and the Regulation of Human Evolved Predispositions’ (such as ethnocentrism). In a biological conflict they are particularly helpless in the face of the currently ubiquitous anti white cultural influences. So the mass of the population will be held down by the governing elites and their media allies.

      Just as McInerney , for all his youth and inherited defects can still be held responsible for what he did, for all their youth and background the victims were in reality guilty of treachery, (though our culture re-enforces and rewards their viciousness). Liberalism is a vice for those predisposed to it.

      None of the foregoing absolves Breivik in any respect whatsoever, of course.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 4:31 am | Permalink

      Right, and a serious political thinker thinks a Zionist gives a shit about the European multicultural nightmare, the lack of gay-divorce in Maryland, or whether race is a valid concept. Zionists care about Israel not about turning the West into a Jew friendly utopia – that’s the realm of culture-killing diaspora Jews.

  120. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    July 24, 2011 - 7:12 am | Permalink

    If Christianity is such a potent force for racial survival. why is it that in the modern age at least, wherever you find it, you find degeneracy of all kinds, Race-mixing, death of marriage, homosexuality etc. ? Just curious.

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 24, 2011 - 9:05 am | Permalink

      The answer to that is quite easy: wherever you find that degeneration you don’t find Christianity IN PRACTICE.No doubt degeneration is prominent all over the Western world,that is still NOMINALLY Christian,but you’ll not find it among PRACTISING Christians.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      July 24, 2011 - 10:58 am | Permalink

      Franlin R;

      I guess that would depend on ones definition of “practicing”

    • Laconophile's Gravatar Laconophile
      July 24, 2011 - 8:30 pm | Permalink

      Nietzsche thought that Christianity puts the degenerate on a pedestal.

  121. S Fowler's Gravatar S Fowler
    July 24, 2011 - 6:36 am | Permalink

    From suicide bombers to 9/11, false flag actions never hit legitimate, enemy targets.

  122. Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
    July 24, 2011 - 6:20 am | Permalink

    This interview with a Norwegian researcher might be of interest to TOO-readers:

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 6:43 am | Permalink

      Well I must say, that is one of the better reports I have seen on the issue. Russia Today had a spotty reputation to me in the past, but they certainly nailed it here on multiculturalism. Some of that RT said could come straight from TOO. It’s sad when a Russian outfit seem more concerned with our rights than our own leaders.

      This shows the absolutely crucial role of the media and the reason our opponents (especially the activist Jews) insist on media domination. Just a few dissenting voices reaching the public could have an enormous impact.

  123. July 24, 2011 - 5:47 am | Permalink
  124. July 24, 2011 - 5:26 am | Permalink

    It probably isn’t a “false flag” operation, it probably is just a narcissist who overestimates his own importance in the world, as well as he wants to get attention – and now he has: many people will read his silly manifest, and in a worst case scenario he will inspire people to to equally stupid things.

    • July 24, 2011 - 5:39 am | Permalink

      It is supposed to me “silly manifesto”.

    • Chromedome Brainstorm's Gravatar Chromedome Brainstorm
      July 24, 2011 - 8:53 am | Permalink

      Given that this Breivik is 32 he probably remembered how much media attention fellow Norwegian Varg Vikernes received in the mid-1990s and wished to emulate him to some degree.

      P.S. This is assuming however that it is not a false-flag operation. Heck even Wikipedia has an article on such things so they do in fact occur! ( ) I wish that Joe Vialls was still alive to investigate this case.

  125. July 24, 2011 - 5:13 am | Permalink

    Jason Speaks,

    Well, the important thing is what Freemasons stand for, politically. And that is a very capitalist form of globalism, without regard for ethnic interests and genuine ethnic culture. Thus they are opposed to political islam because it is traditionalist, not because the arabs are a biological, physical threat. This is important for Breivik’s views, thus I mentioned it. Just to point out that there is a vast difference between His form of “nationalism” and sound White Nationalism – he is rather part of the enemy camp.

  126. July 24, 2011 - 4:47 am | Permalink

    It is important to note that he, according to himself, is “anti-Nazi, pro-gay, and pro-Zionist”. And in addition he is a Freemason (in one of the pictures he wears his Freemason suit). Thus, he is to a large extent the exact opposite of a sound nationalist.

    Read this account:

    / A comment from Sweden

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 5:00 am | Permalink

      Ok, on the freemason thing, aren’t there literally millions of freemasons in the US? Most of them driving 1994 Crown Victorias with their nice 68 year old wife. I am fully aware of the big boogey man of freemason conspiracies (Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt), but can’t we at least say 99.9% of them appear to be uninitiated in the inner sanctum. And all they have to show for their complicity in the grand conspiracy is a social security check for $1350 a month.

    • July 24, 2011 - 5:06 am | Permalink

      Here is a Norwegian interview with a member of the lodge Breivik is part of (including a picture of Breivik in his Freemason suit):

      In addition to that he is a supporter of Geert Wilders, the most pro Jewish and pro Israel politician in Europe, and the very Jewish “Vienna school”. He is strongly anti NS and only a cultural nationalist, that is a denier of the importance of biological race.

      Just to point out that he is very far from “one of us”. This probably is not very easy to realize in the US, since you apparently don’t have many activists in Breivik’s category – in Europe we regrettably do. They are very modernist (what is bad with Islam is that it is anti-gay), very pro Jewish, and very destructive.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 5:16 am | Permalink

      Yeah for sure he is not “one of us”, he seems to deny the importance of race from everything I’ve seen. And the full freemason get-up is unusual for someone his age isn’t it? Here in the states they are always much older. So he definitely seemed to be off on a unique trip.

      By the way, for those that say it’s a false flag op, it seems like they would at least make him a full fledged racist, not a race-denier.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      July 24, 2011 - 10:40 am | Permalink


      You forgot to mention a large portion of those nefarious masons have well tended homes, cause no trouble (that we know about, they are so clever), help with their grandkids, occasionally go to Luby’s or Dairy Queen, and are rather polite to strangers in public, in spite of driving too slow.
      Apparently, they are engaged in a great global conspiracy I am to blind to see.

  127. July 24, 2011 - 4:29 am | Permalink

    Have you noticed that in the above quoted text, where Anders Behring Breivik refers to The Vienna School, he doesn’t have in mind any of these but that he refers to the “school” of the blogsite Gates of Vienna? (an exploration of this conclusion appears at Age of Treason, here and here).

    @ But dozens of high-ranking party leaders have lost their children–forever. While this act was indeed a failure in terms of achieving his explicit goals, it has been a rousing success in playing out his own private revenge fantasy and inflicting misery on his nemeses. – Parrott

    @ True, but it doesn’t matter. To the world, they are still teens. They are innocent. – Trainspotter

I don’t really want to debate this as it will sound like i support tactics that are this extreme but i think… –Wandrin

    Although I titled my first post on this subject “No White Nationalist would open fire on White kids”, I still have to figure out how to respond to a man who posted the following a few hours ago at my Facebook page:

    They deserved it.

    Terrorism is when you deliberately target non-combatant civilians in order to extract certain demands. Anders Behring Breivik did not do that. He did not target the Muslim or ethnic quarters of Oslo which motivated his actions, he targeted those parties directly responsible.

    What sort of “democracy” is it which weans its future political leaders from a narrow group of teenagers whom are all ideologically motivated both within and by an ideologically biased, Cultural Marxist educational system? – That is not a “democracy”, that is a single party state.

    If you make ethno-masochist Marxist Extremists out of Norwegian teenagers it’s no different from making boy soldiers out of Congolese minors.

    They were all legitimate military targets of political interest, no different from when the United States, or Israel or NATO eliminates Islamic leaders in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine.

    These were all legitimate military targets and this was a completely justified act of war by Norwegian National Resistance Forces.

    Whilst I cannot speak for Mr. Breivik’s Zionist leanings, as Nationalists, our only regret is that more enemy combatants were not killed in this, including the corrupt Prime Minister of that enemy state.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 4:56 pm | Permalink

      The rhetoric seems extremely similar to English Defense League type counter-jihad certainly. As to the comment that you are not sure how to repond to, I’ll try.

      Whether this is a horrible act of terrorism by a deranged madman, or the first blow in the civil war of Eurabia, is probably dependent on whether you’ve been a victim yet. If you’re an Oslo father whose daughter was gang raped by Muslims, the family of indie Dutch filmmakers murdered by jihadists, or some random European that’s been beated by Muslim gangs, you may feel the latter is closer to the truth. If you’ve never been a direct victim, and believe the path forward is rhetoric and political activism (obviously the majority view) than the former is how you would describe it.

      It is inevitable that the world war is coming to our shores, in Europe and America. It can’t not happen. God help us all.

    • Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
      July 24, 2011 - 11:26 pm | Permalink

      extending the logic of murdering 10 year old cultural marxists-in-the-making, how about, discovering their friends, girl or boy friends of the aforesaid 10 year olds, and tracking them down too, or bayoneting or shooting the pregnant wives of Norway’s Social Democrats…get ’em right in the belly, and take two lives with one bullet or bayonet. Why not skin these kids alive, and really freak out their parents….send them the videos, and then send them the skins, complete with faces attached, as well as their teddy bears, blood-soaked of course.

      Now, leaving this kind of madman logic (think Cape Fear and the “Justice” demanded by the criminal therein) behind. Just think politically about “who wins?” Any action that one takes , for any cause, finally must justify itself by its consequences. At this time, and in this place…. Breivik will be perceived as a monster, another Abstracted Monster. I hope his zionist and jew neocon connections can be attached to his CV. Then we win. Otherwise, we lose.

  128. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    July 24, 2011 - 4:19 am | Permalink

    “a lone gunman blows up a federal building in downtown Oslo, then proceeds to sail off to an island where he succeeds in shooting dead another 90. Meantime the SWAT team takes 90 minutes to show up.”

    Norway only started importing diversity in the last twenty or so years so obviously they don’t have SWAT teams in every town yet.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 12:49 pm | Permalink

      The Media will bury this:1 This man killed for the Jews.He’s alive and will make statements in court!(look out for an OSWALD)2.The victims were beautiful Ayran youth.Jews hate that.I’ll bet this evil fool loved films like THE DIRTY DOZEN and DIRTY ROTTEN BASTARDS.

  129. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    July 24, 2011 - 4:11 am | Permalink

    First a hard-to-spot 6 ft 6 tall Arab nursing his busted kidneys in the comfort of a Waziristan cave manages on 9-11 to get NORAD to stand down; now a lone gunman blows up a federal building in downtown Oslo, then proceeds to sail off to an island where he succeeds in shooting dead another 90. Meantime the SWAT team takes 90 minutes to show up.
    And you thought the fables about Made-in-Auschwitz Jewish lamp shades were a ludicrous whale poop, huh ?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 4:25 am | Permalink

      Most of the media seem fairly uninterested in the matter, so it sure is an ineffective “false flag” event. Fox and MSNBC are barely covering it. CNN gives it more coverage but not as much as it merits. The Huffington Post headline is about the debt deadline. Most news outlets are giving more attention to Amy Winehouse’s death.

    • Laconophile's Gravatar Laconophile
      July 24, 2011 - 10:22 pm | Permalink


      Perhaps it was meant for European ‘audiences’ primarily? He doesn’t typify the american far-right anyway. But he does represent a growing number of euro ‘anti-jihadists’.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 4:14 am | Permalink

      The story is true, nothing he did was superhuman or amazing.

  130. Masculinity's Gravatar Masculinity
    July 24, 2011 - 4:05 am | Permalink

    Brave analysis Kevin McD.

  131. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    July 24, 2011 - 4:00 am | Permalink

    I don’t really want to debate this as it will sound like i support tactics that are this extreme but i think he’s thought this through and the consequences aren’t as predictable as you think. However, time will tell.

  132. Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
    July 24, 2011 - 3:00 am | Permalink

    Thanks to Dr. MacDonald for his unconventional, perhaps even brave, approach to these recent events. What people on “our side” tend to forget is that it’s not the events/crimes themselves that are important, but how they are interpreted in the aftermath. The leftist/liberal elites are winning that game now, without much competition from alternative viewpoints. Much will depend on ABB’s “performance” during the forthcoming trial.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 4:21 am | Permalink

      As long as you cow tow to the MSM and thier “view points” youv’e already lost.
      Who cares what they think.

    • Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
      July 24, 2011 - 5:42 am | Permalink

      Curiosity is also the business of the MSM. There are lots of questions to be answered, and there’s no divine determinism in that process.

  133. Trainspotter's Gravatar Trainspotter
    July 24, 2011 - 2:50 am | Permalink

    “He sent a message to the ruling elite.”

    Yes, he did. He also assured that ruling elite of quite a bit of sympathy from the white population of Europe. Who wants to campaign against the candidate that lost little Anna or Sven on the island?

    It remains to be seen how much his act will discredit overall white resistance to race replacement, but it certainly isn’t going to help. I think we’ll move on and put this behind us, but to the extent that white resistance is equated with child/teenager killing, well, it should be obvious to a half loon that such doesn’t help our cause.

    Frankly, I’m amazed that I have to debate this point. There is a reason why the Founders – you know, guys that actually launched a successful revolution – didn’t start things off by slaughtering the children of the enemy elite. Somehow, amazingly, they found more suitable targets. Targets that not only sent the message, that not only hurt the enemy elite, but won broader revolutionary support as well. You know, so they could actually win, not just send a message.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat, yet these guys always manage to do things in the most unpopular way possible. Why is that?

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      July 24, 2011 - 2:58 am | Permalink

      Ideas are more powerful than guns.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 3:54 am | Permalink

      The founders did slaugter children and they also wiped out the ruling elite.
      I don’t think many of you understand how bad things are going to get. This is a war and horrible things happen in war.
      Your PC attitudes get nothing done. As i said, I don’t condone this, but this was an attack on those he deemed an enemy of his nation.
      This is a horrible event, but this is minor in comparison to warfare tactics being waged right now as we sit here and type.
      Hundreds of children are wiped out daily thru laser guided munitions and street to street combat.
      Lets not blow this out of proportion. He acted out of vengence, the situation in Norway is the same as it is here in th states. These types off spree killings will increase exponentially in the near future. They already have. This is a symptom of the real problem.
      Get over it and get down to reality, this world is headed for much worse. All the moral judgement is a waste of time.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 4:12 am | Permalink

      These types off spree killings will increase exponentially in the near future

      Things have never been safer in the West and nothing will change that anytime soon. Everytime some event happens, we hear, “oh boy, now Armageddon is coming!”. And of course, it never does. People live really, really well in the West and this means most people want to continue living well. This means they aren’t going to idiotically put themselves in danger.

      Will it be the same in 50 years? Maybe not. But the more dramatic scenarios will only take place after we are all long dead. Get used to. Sorry, no Mad Max fun in your lifetime.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 4:25 am | Permalink

      Things have never been safer in the West and nothing will change that anytime soon.

      LOL, I’ll bet a hand full of Norwegians were bragging about thier safe enviroment just a few days ago. :)

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 4:35 am | Permalink

      Even with this event, things are incredibly safe in Norway. It’s very safe everywhere in the West compared to most of the world and certainly compared to most of human history. Since 9-11 there have had over 300,000 deaths on the hiways of America. Since Oklahoma City, there have been over 500,000 hiway deaths. And the total number who died due to escalating attacks in the US? Well a handful, probably less than 100. That gives us some perspective.

      Someday, things may bet more dangerous, but it simply isn’t happening now. Go drive around the suburbs, go to any nice area of town (and there are tons of them). People on this site are concerned over what they see coming, but most people are still living quite comfortably and have no such concerns.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 4:39 am | Permalink

      Someday, things may bet more dangerous, but it simply isn’t happening now. Go drive around the suburbs, go to any nice area of town (and there are tons of them). People on this site are concerned over what they see coming, but most people are still living quite comfortably and have no such concerns.

      I live in the inner city, and things are not safe.
      The majority of Americans live in cities. So you maybe out of the loop of reality, Jason.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 4:44 am | Permalink

      Jason, I read here daily and you get alot of crap. I won’t pile on, as I think you are a genuine commenter, nieve but sincere.
      I don’t want a back and forth. My views on this are clear and if you are confused, read my posts again.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 4:51 am | Permalink

      Most White Americans do not live in the inner city and the stats on murder and crime have declined since the 70s. I know things are dangerous for Whites (or anyone) in certain urban areas, but it simply doesn’t apply to most White Americans at this time.

      If you are White and live in a mostly black or Mestizos inner city area, your experience is not like that of most Whites. I have lived in an area like that and I know the sense of fear is greater, but most Whites still have it pretty good.

      Like I said, someday Whites will face more violence, but it ain’t about to spiral out of control in some exponential way any time soon. This is actually good, because it gives White Advocates time to develop their case.

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      July 24, 2011 - 5:54 am | Permalink

      Jason and Mr. Grant: May I butt in? I think you are both right to try keeping this squabble on a short leash, especially because you are, I believe, saying much the same thing from an only marginally differing perspective.

      Mr. Grant, like you I live in a big city—Manhattan; they don’t make cities any bigger within these borders—and my neighborhood is relatively stable but on constant high alert, surrounded as it is by 100,000 illegal aliens and darn near as many ghetto blacks and PRs beginning a quarter of a mile from my apartment building. That the number of crimes is about the same as what it was when I first moved here more than thirty-five years ago (incidentally, I would not be able to afford to move here today) is due less to minority enlightenment or the enemy’s realization that diversity is our greatest strength than to the plain fact that my fellow members of the crime-victim class seldom walk the streets after dark and have barred windows and triple-locked and reinforced doors on their apartments. That is to say, I side with Mr. Grant on this point. Crime isn’t down so much as that we, the good guys, have seen to it that the opportunities for crime are down.

      Going out of town for vacation still involves plan making comparable to the Normandy invasion: making sure that there are no UPS deliveries in one’s absence; having the mail picked up daily by a trusted neighbor (and thank the good Lord if you have even one!) since the mailperson’s illegitimate son Kalvin usually specializes in absentee break-ins; adjusting your blinds or shades to unsuspicious levels of closure; and setting up two, three, or four different light timers to go on and off at what will look like irregular intervals. I even know people who have the TV cycle on and off for an hour or two every day to keep the fantasy believable.

      Is this any way to live? Of course it isn’t! On that you two gentleman and I will surely agree. But it could be far, far worse—and here in my neighborhood it was far worse just ten or so years ago, when the locked street-level door was smashed every few weeks and the wipers on my car were swiped thrice a year. I now know where never to park the car.

      I suspect that Jason might be right about where a majority of white people live—at least those white people who read TOO and those more or less like TOO readers. (The defining issue here is not so much income as it is the ability and inclination to read and reflect upon something other than lottery ticket numbers.) Besides, I am certain that Jason is right about things getting unspeakably worse when, barring something on the order of an act of God, worse they do indeed get.

      In short, I have no inherent aversion to quarreling, but I am all in favor of confining our quarrels to larger matters, matters where quarreling might do some good. How terrible it is that Anders Breivik has given us such a matter.

    • Lancashire lad's Gravatar Lancashire lad
      July 24, 2011 - 8:18 am | Permalink

      I’m not a muslim, but the Prophet said: “The ink of the scholar is more valuable than the blood of the martyr.” All we need is the opportunity to debate and we will carry the day.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 24, 2011 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

      Pierre and Sean,

      I think you are both basically right. I’m really talking about the time frame for when things get worse – I mean exponentially worse – not whether things will get worse, because they will in time. I just think it will take longer.

      I would add that it is amazing how much psychological effect your residence has on your state of mind. I lived in an area that was rapidly declining due to an influx of Mestizos and blacks. The sense of despair and pessimism had grown pretty strong in my mind. It seem liked the whole world was falling apart.

      Then I moved to a better area (more Whites and a few Asians), and voila! The world didn’t seem so bad anymore. The sun was brighter and the trees greener. The White people living there didn’t have the same sense of impending doom we’d had in my old neighborhood.

      So one bit of advice for what it’s worth, if you can ever get to a Whiter area, by all means, do it! Go to a new state, or new city or whatever you can, if you can (I know we can’t always move, I was trapped for years). It truly does brighten your day not to have to worry about gangbangers taking your life. And just the sense of optimism and competence White people exude makes your day a little better.

  134. I's Gravatar I
    July 24, 2011 - 2:42 am | Permalink

    It could well be that Breivik’s silence on Jewish hostility toward Europe and the West and his rejection of ethnocentrism (see here) are motivated by his strategic sense.

    It’s not strategic, it’s surrender. Nothing is going to be done about immigration into the West until the Jewish stranglehold on power is broken. Talking about Muslims accomplishes nothing. The presence of Muslims in Europe has nothing to do with any “jihad”, it has to do with the fact that they are being LET IN. That is OBVIOUS and should be the beginning for any rational discussion of the immigration problem. All the crap about jihad, “dhimmitude”, the crusades, Charles Martel, and the rest is nothing but OBFUSCATION. The people who write this crap know exactly what they are doing.

    Ultimately the anti-Zionists that this guy shot up were doing a lot more to defend the West than he was – which is precisely why they were chosen as targets.

    I’m sitting here searching through this guy’s enormous tract for all references to the word “Jew”, and it’s truly astounding how much of this work is devoted to standard depictions of Jews as helpless, innocent victims. Really, the idea that there is something of value here is a pathetic joke.

    • Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
      July 24, 2011 - 3:38 am | Permalink

      The guy is a Christian neo-con Jew worshiper. I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns out to be partially Jewish himself.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 4:02 am | Permalink

      One can support Israel in their fight against Islam while at the same time naming the Jew for multiculturalism. There are two main factions of Jews – Zionist and Diaspora. Neither group wants to bad mouth the other in public but a hard core Israeli Zionist is not cheering Islamic immigration into Europe.
      This group of politically active Communist teens may have been anti-Zionist (as many Jews are) but they definitely were not anti-Frankfurt.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 25, 2011 - 4:11 am | Permalink

      Interesting point Brahms about the difference between Zionist and Diaspora Jews. They don’t seem to be totally distinct categories and there can be overlap, but nonetheless it gives us a more detailed picture. Frankly, I find the Leftist diaspora Jews far more dangerous to Whites and Western Civilization then any other.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 8:47 am | Permalink

      Israel is not fighting Islam per se. HIstorically, Jews have preferred Islam over Christianity. Israel is seen as anti-Muslim because it is taking lands belonging mainly to Muslims. It does the same thing to Christian Arabs who happen to own land Israel wants.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 12:34 pm | Permalink

      Brilliant post by I.

    • Systemic's Gravatar Systemic
      July 25, 2011 - 1:02 pm | Permalink

      We all have to worship something. The authoritarian state wants to be God rather than an abstract idealized symbol of love and compassion found in Jesus worship. But every state that destroys Christianity destroys itself in the end. Communism is anti-Jesus and we all know how much this humanist garbage has benefited mankind.LOL
      -Put it this way ZOG- If you and your hate represent White Identity then count out three fourths of your potential membership. I could just picture you passing out leaflets cursing Jesus and showcasing your loneliness and misery for all to see. Geez get this loser outta here before he scares off more of us.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 25, 2011 - 1:58 pm | Permalink

      One can support Israel in their fight against Islam while at the same time naming the Jew for multiculturalism.

      Brahams and Jason Speaks can support Israel while complaining about liberal Jews. I believe we call that “neo-conservatism.”

      But why should we? I’m not a jew, and I don’t give a damn about Israel. Who cares about Israel? The neo-conervatives tells us we need to support Israel against “Muslim Jihad” and the like.

      Ask yourself – if Scary Iran really nuked Israel – would your relatives die? Not mine. So again, why should we give a flying f— about that shitty little country half way around the world in the Middle east?

      Jews are always telling us we have to choose between them and Muslims. But we don’t.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 3:01 pm | Permalink

      Rich Pearson – I’m not telling anyone to support Israel. The point is that support of Israel does not make one a traitor to European people. You Israel haters would find you have some interesting bedfellows if you cared to look.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 25, 2011 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

      Brahams says:

      Rich Pearson – I’m not telling anyone to support Israel. The point is that support of Israel does not make one a traitor to European people. You Israel haters would find you have some interesting bedfellows if you cared to look.

      He sounds like Breivik – either you can be an Israel lover, or an Israel hater with “interesting bedfellows” presumably, Muslims, leftists, etc.

      Who cares about Israel? Maybe Brahms does, but why should I? I’m not a Jew.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 7:57 pm | Permalink

      Trotsky was an anti-Zionist – care to explain that? The theory that all Jews rally behind the same philosophy – and then use Zionist and Bolshevik interchangeably to name this philosophy is in error. What MacDonald describes in Culture of Critique is the strategy of Bolshevism/Marxism/Trotskyism – it took the form of Communism first and now multiculturalism; quite distinct from Zionism.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 8:13 pm | Permalink

      Lenin: “The idea of “Jewish nationalism” is against the interests of the Jewish proletariat, because it spreads amongst its ranks directly or indirectly, a spirit opposed to assimilation that being the spirit of the “ghetto”.

      ” The solution of the Jewish problem is not in creating a Jewish state among other non Jewish states but in restructuring society into a solid internationalist cohesive structure.”

      The goal is assimilation (with Jews on top of course) by socialism/PC/multiculturalism/Communism – see C of C. Zionism is Jewish separation via a Jewish homeland.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 8:56 pm | Permalink

      This also explains Hitler’s seeming inconsistency in supporting Zionism (transfer agreement etc.) while fighting Marxism. The Jewish Question concerned “International Jewry” not Zionist Jews. He was quite happy for Jews to leave Germany for a Jewish homeland.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      July 30, 2011 - 7:04 am | Permalink

      I’m tired of responding to inaccurate quotes, but just to reiterate, I don’t support Israel, I said that there is a difference worth noting between liberal Diaspora Jews and Nationalist Jews inside Israel – or least there seems to be. I think everyone agrees there is a difference. I am not for “aligning” with so-called conservative Jews, I am interested in more fully understanding the political dynamics of the situation – not trying to impress people with empty put downs.

  135. Trainspotter's Gravatar Trainspotter
    July 24, 2011 - 2:09 am | Permalink

    “A summer camp for a political party will be full of the children of politicians and party activists.”

    True, but it doesn’t matter. To the world, they are still teens. They are innocent. They have yet to wield power in a meaningful sense. They are not responsible for our world in the same way that an adult politician is. Maybe some will be in the future, maybe some won’t. Who knows, maybe some of those kids would have abandoned Leftism and come over to the good side. We’ll never know.

    Point is, if someone were seriously attempting to kick off a violent movement and inspire future acts, this would be one of the last targets that a sane and intelligent man would choose – coming in right above a nursery school, but not by a whole lot.

    So, to my mind the question still stands: mental disorder/psychopath/nutcase or something else? Cui bono?

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 2:16 am | Permalink

      He sent a message to the ruling elite.
      You put our kids in danger, you put your kids in danger. No more living behind gates of protection as you ruin the nation.
      Perhaps this guy had a relative raped by a muslim allowed to enter his nation.
      No one knows what put this guy over the edge.

  136. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    July 24, 2011 - 1:54 am | Permalink

    and, to hammer him for his Israel ties and zionist extremism.

  137. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    July 24, 2011 - 1:52 am | Permalink

    lost some stuff. The fact that Breivik claims to have thought things thru, demonstrates the danger of a half-educated “White (not really) Nationalist” getting his “message” out to the White Christians, I guess, never mind the rest of us, and further muddling folks minds. Better that he commit suicide while in police custody, and let the CT folks have another 10 year distraction, than to allow this idiot a fair trial in which his poison can be broadcast.

    The best political use we can make of him is to demonstrate his extreme confusion on major points, and stick to our racialist guns. The “culturists” can be tarred with this Breivik brush. Or, if that is too much to ask of folks, total repudiation of him, accompanied by Explanations of how immigration is driving people crazy. Joe

    • John Norman Howard's Gravatar John Norman Howard
      July 25, 2011 - 9:29 am | Permalink

      I read an alleged post/diary entry from him where he states that, as a youngster between the ages of 12 to 17, he hung around with Pakistani ‘friends’, thereby making him a “cool potato” (which I assume was their slang for Whites that were ‘in with the in crowd’) and which spared him from gang attacks and robberies that he witnessed them do on native Norwegian kids… giving him a feeling of ‘nausea’, I believe was the exact word he used.

      I find this very telling…

      Coincidentally, a famed pro-White author often recalls his high school days of being tormented by blacks in school, and upon graduation, vowing to spend the rest of his life making sure that “no White child would ever have to go through what I went through”.

      Different men chose to fight the war different ways… but the roots of their motivation invariably come from, during their formative years, living amid and often at the mercy of the non-whites.

  138. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    July 24, 2011 - 1:46 am | Permalink

    “Probably most of the “bad guys” would live within an hour of Oslo. So…let’s go for the teens. In all these years of meticulous planning and extensive thought, he couldn’t come up with a better target?”

    A summer camp for a political party will be full of the children of politicians and party activists.

  139. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    July 24, 2011 - 1:41 am | Permalink

    From the movie, The Pope of Greenwich Village, (I think, one of characters says to the other (small time petty criminals), “I tink you gotta serious tinking disorda.”

    Rah’s quotations from Breivik may indeed reveal a hidden agenda and thus make his other thinking less weird (to me). Then Pierre de Craon’s observations that his pro-zio views and his anti-multi-culti position make no sense….is spot on. Of course, he clearly cannot see the contradiction. He cannot see apparently that Jews have led the multi-culti and multi-raci campaign. He cannot see that zionism is the fundamental cause of our Muslim problem. He is an idiot, or just another useful idiot for the Likudniks.

    Which gets me back to his serious thinking disorder, the primary portion of that disorder being (apparently) the notion that “CULTURE” is unrelated to genes and race. His views are a total contradiction. If it is culture, then the muslims can be brought around, culture being the product of persuasion, reason, and good public relations.

    He seems to have actually taken the cultural marxists to heart, or been seduced by the view that after all it is just “culture.” That the leopard can change its spots thru cultural experiences that enrich, develop, and educate a particular human being and transform one from a leopard to a panther, to stay with the simile. Trouble is, nobody changes their spots, the third worlders demonstrate zero ability, intention, etc. to assimilate to Western standards. Is this lost on this character? Yes, and what he fails to appreciate is our position that White genes contain the trait of
    Trust, and hence we are vulnerable to the malign tactics of Jews, commies, niggers and mexers, and muslims, etc. What great teeth you have Grandmother! An my child, the better to protect you ….

    All of his stats on the growing threat of muslim demographics are a demonstration of the failure of Culture, and the Success of genes.

    This guy is demented. He is anti-racist, pro-culture, but cannot demonstrate how culture can change anything, but at the same time, sees cultural marxists as having changed the West. The solution to the riddle that he cannot unravel is that genes and race allow for a certain latitude of “freedom” of alternatives that can be manipulated by ideology or thinking.

    Whites tend to universalism but of a relatively large pluralistic character, and of universal Generosity and Openness to the Stranger. Muslims and probably all other races besides Whites cannot think of a Universalism of a large degree of relative Pluralism. Muslims, etc. have
    their universalistic claims, but their “pluralism” is severely delimited. You don’t like muslim universalism? You deny Allah, the most merciful, the most benificent? Off with your heathen head! Of course, White liberal pluralism of late has gotten more like the Muslims, etc. .

    We now have totalitarian liberalism which has not got to the point yet of chopping off heads or hands, they are content just to take your job. Muslims regard us liberals as saps. Ditto the mexers. No other race thinks like Whites.

    Breivik demonstrates the dangers of a half-educated “White Nationalist.” He should simply commit suicide while in police custody, rather than be allowed to blather his nonsense to other Whites who, in Europe and in the US, are finally starting to listen to their genes, and stop listening to the various “thinkers” that have not figured it out (socio-biology, Darwin, inequality, organic community).

    Finally, this kind of stuff is going to happen more frequently as the pot heats up. The 1960ish Algerian Revolution killed about one million people, Arabs killing more Arabs than French, like blowing up movie theatres. Hopefully, Whites will not get as goofy as Breivik or the Arabs.

    But I digress. This guy is confused. You cannot have an anti-racist (anti-genetic argument) and insist that culture can Change folks….if you cannot prove that, in this case, Muslims can change. If Muslims cannot change, then it is genetic.

    Also his claim that there are Muslims who do not necessarily take the Quran seriously, that is pretty dumb on the face of it.

    This guy is just dumb and mind-fuced by the jews, neocons, and maybe some kind of Christianity. Not to understand , or deal with the jew in the living room of Cultural Marxism, is beyond my comprehension, except to just chalk it all up to human, all too human.

    However, The fact that Breivik

  140. Trainspotter's Gravatar Trainspotter
    July 24, 2011 - 1:24 am | Permalink

    “If you people have made it a point to lose support, sympathy and credibility over the last few days, I can assure you that you are succeeding.”

    Come on, that’s really not fair. I think it’s obvious that Dr. MacDonald abhors what has happened.

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that the killer is not a dumb man, but in fact has given a great deal of thought to some pretty fundamental issues. Obviously, I disagree with much of his thinking, and it should go without saying that I am disgusted and horrified by his actions. There is no contradiction in acknowledging the truth of the matter.

    I’ve only had time to skim his book, and while he does make some interesting points, it’s also a strange read. On the one hand, he is an avowed anti-racist…then he turns around and starts favorably quoting Madison Grant. O.K.

    Then, he meticulously develops a mission that seems years in the making, provides a de facto instruction manual for those that follow (he hopes), and throws in a fairly comprehensive ideological/philosophical worldview for good measure….and then targets a bunch of Norwegian teens. A clearly intelligent man, and that’s what ends up at the top of his terror to do list. Remember, he lives in a small country. Probably most of the “bad guys” would live within an hour of Oslo. So…let’s go for the teens.

    In all these years of meticulous planning and extensive thought, he couldn’t come up with a better target?

    Much like McVeigh who, in bombing a Federal building, probably killed a bunch of workaday secretaries and low level administrators. Just average Joes and Janes who needed a job and had no idea that they were involved in a war. No warning, no ongoing conflict that would give notice to any reasonable person that even being a secretary for the Feds had become a dangerous proposition, and that maybe that job at the local diner wasn’t so bad after all.

    Yep, killing working class clerks and middle class teenagers on a holiday island…what a way to get your violent revolution started.

    Bottom line: are these guys, who are intelligent enough to pull off these rather astonishing operations, really so dumb/mentally ill that they can’t see the obvious? Or is there something else going on here?

    Hard to say at this point, and currently I’m still inclined toward the “intelligent but weird nut” explanation, but it’s always good to at least ask… cui bono? Something just isn’t adding up here. Very, very strange.

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      July 24, 2011 - 2:56 am | Permalink

      McVeigh was guilty of not seeing the bulls-eye his co-conspirators had painted on his back.

    • July 24, 2011 - 3:09 am | Permalink

      My suspicion is that this was less a political act against a group he was opposed to than a personal act against a group he hated and wanted to hurt. If you’re anti-mafia, you take out Vinnie. If you’re anti-Vinnie, you take out Vinnie’s daughter. I believe his emotions got the better of him, causing him to betray the ideological goal in favor of the cathartic one.

      Sure, Labor Party leaders will still get their ideological victories and carry on destroying Europe. This will probably actually help speed that along, if anything. But dozens of high-ranking party leaders have lost their children–forever. While this act was indeed a failure in terms of achieving his explicit goals, it has been a rousing success in playing out his own private revenge fantasy and inflicting misery on his nemeses. “Sure, you’ll win the next immigration vote by a landslide in an outburst of national unity, but your only son has been slaughtered and I haunt your nightmares.”

      I’m still absorbing all this, and there’s a lot to process all at once. But at this point, we appear to have a gifted and motivated man of the Alternative Right who made the fatal tactical (and moral) mistake of allowing his hatred to cloud his judgment…indelibly staining an impressive body of work with the blood of innocent children, most of whom belonged to his own extended family.

      My heart goes out to the families of those who’ve been killed or maimed by this man, and I regret that Norway lacks a death penalty for him. But his basic analysis of Europe’s future is accurate. The threat of these Labor Party leaders unleashing an unspeakable genocide and hardship on their people is very real. The problem facing Europe is as serious as Andrei claims it is, but the solution he offered is to respond to terror targeting Europeans with more terror targeting Europeans.

      It is, of course, no solution at all.

    • Floda's Gravatar Floda
      July 24, 2011 - 3:15 am | Permalink


      I see you share my view that this simply does NOT add up. This guy seems to see himself as a kind of historic figure, that he is highly intelligent goes without saying. Take a look at a picture of him, his is not the face of an imbecile, nor is it the face of a madman. This ‘type’ of person does not go about killing children and young people, let alone people of his own race, a race whom he sees himself as destined to protect.

      Our enemy are murderers, our enemy are liars, our enemy has much form and is extremely capable of committing crimes and fitting up ‘patsies’ with their unimaginably horrific crimes and our enemy has near total control of the means of mass communication and entertainment in every country where White Europeans live.

      For one man to have done what Anders is accused of seems impossible, even for a James Bond. This is the Jewish ‘Big Lie’ technique at work, I suspect you may you know the one I’m referring to.

      This will test the bloggers VS the Jewsmedia. My money is on the bloggers. Truth will out.

    • Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
      July 24, 2011 - 3:33 am | Permalink

      Matt Parrott: “…indelibly staining an impressive body of work with the blood of innocent children, most of whom belonged to his own extended family.”

      Most of the pictures I’ve seen of victims and survivors tell another story. Many of them were/are obviously of non-European origin. Many of the “extended-family”-victims seem to have drowned (they were not shot).

    • Victoria's Gravatar Victoria
      July 24, 2011 - 3:34 am | Permalink


    • Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
      July 24, 2011 - 8:51 am | Permalink

      Totally agree Trainspotter, who benefits? It just doesn’t add up to me either. BTW, your posts on Majority Rights is excellent.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 4:40 pm | Permalink

      Some blogs have claimed the book is mostly copy/paste from various counter-jihad websites, although I’m reading it and that’s not the impression I get. The book so far reminds me of the “Al Qaeda” glossy magazine that has appeared in recent years, and the “Knights Templar” idea is basically “Al Qaeda” for Europeans.

      I see no reason to assume the terrorist wrote the book, that any of his supposed online activities are actually him, nor that he was working alone. There’s been eyewitness reports of a “second shooter” and unexploded bombs found on the island. If it fact this really is the work of the “Knights Templar 2083″ it’s possible there could be more than one guy in on the plot. The author of the book doesn’t seem “crazy” he seems quite rational; cold-blooded in the way a soldier has to be.

      The sheer implausibility of one random crazy guy blowing up Parliament, then boating over to an island and shooting nearly a hundred teenagers after placing bombs leads me to believe this is the work of professionals. The fact the media immediately blamed “Al Qaeda” and Muslims is to be expected, as can the storyline being changed to “racist Islamophobe.”

      Cui bono? The targets were the Labor party of Norway, perhaps the most pro-Palestinian people in Europe, and we’re mere months away from a Palestinian state. Some have said “Boycott Israel” signs were common at the camp. Killing the children of the political elites sends a serious message, and in case you all hadn’t noticed, we’re in the middle of World War III right now.

      The Labor party of Norway is also fanatically pro-Muslim immigration and anti-European, and this will give them major sympathy in upcoming elections, and tends to discredit nationalism. The immigrant restrictionist party in Norway will obviously be smeared by association.

      Cui bono? Two major enemies of Zionism – liberal Norwegians and European nationalists – are the losers. Hard to say what is really happening, but if this is a “false flag” or a “true flag” either way it looks like White Al Qaeda has arrived in Europe.

      Bottom line: are these guys, who are intelligent enough to pull off these rather astonishing operations, really so dumb/mentally ill that they can’t see the obvious? Or is there something else going on here?

      Oh I think there’s something else going on here all right.

  141. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    July 24, 2011 - 1:16 am | Permalink

    Breivik is either a very ignorant person or a bigot like Glenn Beck.

    Turkey has been a Muslim-majority country since the 14th century – not due to high birth rate (2.3%) but due to conversion of local Christians and migration of Turks from Eastern Turkistan.

    Lebanon was part of Ottoman empire’s Al-Sham (Greater Syria) province until WW I. French colonist created Lebanon out of Al-Sham to have a Christian colonial post in Muslim heartland, which Zionazi Jews tried to maintain to serve their own colonial empire. The Lebanese Christians and Muslims have almost same birth rate. However, more Christians preferred to move to the ‘open Christian societies’ in the West than Lebanese Muslim, which resulted Christian becoming a minority (38%). However, the Christians still have French-given privileges – 60% of parliament seats in Lebanon’s parliament is reserved for Christians and country’s President and C-in-C have to be Christian under the Paris-made Constitution.

    As far as ‘taking over Europe’ – Muslims could have achieved that during Muslim rule in Spain (711-1492) or Ottoman empire between 15th and 17th centuries. In fact it did conquered most of Eastern Europe and Balkan.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 1:28 am | Permalink

      It was not part of their blood,
      It came to them very late,
      With long arrears to make good,
      When the Saxon began to hate.

      They were not easily moved,
      They were icy — willing to wait
      Till every count should be proved,
      Ere the Saxon began to hate.

      Their voices were even and low.
      Their eyes were level and straight.
      There was neither sign nor show
      When the Saxon began to hate.

      It was not preached to the crowd.
      It was not taught by the state.
      No man spoke it aloud
      When the Saxon began to hate.

      It was not suddently bred.
      It will not swiftly abate.
      Through the chilled years ahead,
      When Time shall count from the date
      That the Saxon began to hate

    • Bear's Gravatar Bear
      July 24, 2011 - 2:22 am | Permalink

      Conversion of Dhimis Rhemat. You know, when you force people to convert by economic pressure.

      You have truck loads of double standards.

      When Sudanese Blacks complain of the civil war and the “Apparthied policies” of Sudanese Arabs/Muslims you come up with Jewish/Western conspiracies while blaming “White Racism”. Hey, what about the aggressive efforts of Muslim Whabbis in Sudan to expand their hoped for Caliphate?

      You think you are a “good power engineer?” Have no illusions, you are in Canada because the elites want to keep wages down and have become too sloppy and lazy to train young people.

      I note there have been another 5 assasination in Pakistan, more or less a regular even in that country as muslim fanatics, having run out of kaffirs, start fragging each other.

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 24, 2011 - 7:11 am | Permalink

      @ Rehmat,july 24,2011-1:16

      The combination of immigration and a higher birth rate is the new formula of JIHAD for Muslims.Both Qadhafi and Turkish prime-minister Erdogan have made remarks to that effect.The conquest of “Rum” (Rome,the Roman Empire,a term often used by Muslims for Europe) has always been a dream for Muslims.Now they hope that dream can come true through their “new-formula” Jihad.

      You say: “…As far as ‘taking over Europe’-Muslims could have achieved that during Muslim rule in Spain (711-1492) or Ottoman empire between 15th and 17th centuries…”

      What do you mean with that?They could have achieved it,but abandoned it and that “proves” that Islam is not an aggressive religion?But why then did they attack Europe in the first place?Or do you want to say that Muslims abandoned it because they became peaceful,are peaceful ever since and are therefore no threat to us?Well I have to remind you that the Muslims didn’t leave Spain or the Balkans because they “became peaceful” but because they were expelled by Christians in a centuries long struggle.In Spain it took about 700 years,in the Balkans about 500 years. (and the process there still has not been completed,see occupied Constantinople,the “Granada of S.E. Europe). Islam is jihad,Islam is military conquest.No doubt about it.

      As for the socalled “voluntary” conversions of Christians in Muslim lands as an explanation for their dwindling numbers,everybody knows that as “dhimmis” they had to endure extra taxes and systematic discrimination and humiliation.Not everybody is capable of enduring such pressure,especially when there is an easy way out via “voluntary” conversion.

      I know for example that in Turkey,that “modern” and “secular” Muslim state,those few Christians who still exist and have to serve in the army are so much bullied by their fellow soldiers and their officers that at last they “voluntarily” convert to Islam.An even more ingenious way to cause “voluntary” conversions has been invented by Allah’s faithful in Egypt: raping-for-Allah.It works this way: a group of young Muslim men abduct a Coptic girl, rape her and then deliver her back to her parents.In Arab culture (even among Christians) when a girl has been raped it means that the “honour” of her family has been lost.It can only be restored by killing the girl ( because according to Arab “logic” SHE is guity). But there is a way out.If the girl marries her raper the honour of her family is restored.So that happens.But as in Islam a woman is obliged to adopt the religion of her husband,marriage in this case entails conversion to Islam.Next the Muslim man divorces the girl,which is very easy in Islam as it entails only saying “I divorce you” three times.The girl is now “free”,but…Muslim.Since in Islam apostacy is punishable by death ,the girl will remain Muslim for life.Voila,one more “voluntary” conversion!

      Islam is a militant-imperialistic,totalitarian-theocratic system bent on world conquest.Those who are awakened to this reality are not “bigots”, they are realists.We need more realists.

      So,Rehmat,keep on posting your ideas full of double standards and dishonesties,it will only bring home what I am saying all the time:


      (and don’t call me “zionazi” in your reply,the term is nonsense)

  142. Bear's Gravatar Bear
    July 24, 2011 - 1:01 am | Permalink

    I blame the situation entirely on Europe and Norways politically correct “hate speach laws” which prevent rational discusion and organisation around the issues of non-europen immigration, integration failure, crime. The laws are about shutting down free speech, debate, information gathering even exposure of facts and organisation around these issues by using the coercive power of the state (guns, jails, police, courts huge impoverishing fines) as well as destruction of carears and livelihood. The Norweigen Labour Party would likely have been behined these totalitarian laws.

    Otherwise democratic and debate orientated movements such as the BNP are attacked, infiltrated. Thus to some it must seem there are no options for legitimate resolution and ‘loan agent’ actions like that of Breivik who are then not engaged in a system that can channel their violent tendancies into moderate behaviours.

    The PC laws are so onerous that it is almost impossible to get data such as welfare dependancy, birth rate, crime ratios for non-European immigrants in many countries in Europe. France being among the worst.

    So blame Norways irresponsble and totalitarian ‘hate speach laws’

  143. chad's Gravatar chad
    July 24, 2011 - 12:45 am | Permalink

    this was a great article. there’s no doubt that when europe was predominantly Christian the muslims would have never even knew that a norway existed, let alone be there. what they never could have accomplished by might they are accomplishing through jewish treachery.

    it breaks my heart to see our people going out like this. much props to kevin macdonald for having the guts to post this. if i wouldn’t have learned this stuff here, all i would have heard about this guy would have been the communist propaganda coming out of the television.

    • Systemic's Gravatar Systemic
      July 25, 2011 - 12:51 pm | Permalink

      Benjamin Franklin
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution

      “Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.

      That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

      As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see;

  144. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    July 24, 2011 - 12:40 am | Permalink

    If he wanted to underscore the gravity of the situation, he couldn’t have picked a better tactic. Awful though it certainly is, perhaps he understood that nothing less would activate the megaphone.

    I thought it was false flag because it was hard to find the thread of reason among the blood. The reason was to turn on the megaphone.

    • Sean Grant's Gravatar Sean Grant
      July 24, 2011 - 1:13 am | Permalink

      I think his motivation was to kill the next “marxist” leader of Norway. (he may have)
      He targeted the youth whom are being groomed to promote further multi-cult activities in Norway.
      I, in no way, condone this, but expect more of this as whites in Europe are being increasingly displaced in their own nations.

    • Victoria's Gravatar Victoria
      July 24, 2011 - 3:25 am | Permalink

      It was a senseless act of violence against innocent people. There was and is no need for a “megaphone”. People are naturally coming to the realization that multiculturalism and unbridled immigration are destructive. Almost everybody knows it know, even normal, mainstream liberals. This criminal killed his own innocent young people and did great harm to many Norwegian families–harm which will affect those families for generations. He is probably deranged despite his coherent writings–or a “patsy” and part of left-wing false flag conspiracy.

  145. Mark Hess's Gravatar Mark Hess
    July 24, 2011 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    This must be a sick joke.

    Let us assume that this man is the guilty, that he acted alone, and that there is nothing else to the atrocity, as many of you seem to have already done.

    This monumental tragedy just happened. Over ninety people, most of them minors, were slaughtered. What their loved ones are experiencing is beyond excruciating.

    To post the political thoughts and writings of this man, and to compliment them, requires a breathtaking amount of insensitivity and foolishness.

    This combined with several of the disgusting comments to ‘The Norwegian Horror’ and to ‘The Brandon McInerney Hate Crime Trial’ would indeed lead a reasonable person to conclude that a disturbingly large percentage of the people who are concerned with revisionism, nationalism and the preservation of European culture and heritage consists of irrational, cruel, pathetic and loathsome hate-mongers.

    If you people have made it a point to lose support, sympathy and credibility over the last few days, I can assure you that you are succeeding.

    • Bear's Gravatar Bear
      July 24, 2011 - 1:32 am | Permalink

      @Mr Hess, most of us are here for facts, data and analysis. We need to understand this man and how it will impact us. If you want emotional posturing go to face book, the MSM or do a tribute video on you tube. Having said that, the pain and emotional loss the relatives of the victims will be immense with some requireing medication and I’m sure other posters of this group besides you and I feel pity and compassion. Nevertheless the job here is to get on with gathering the facts and analysis while not saying anything illconsidered, relexsive and imprudent.

      Honestly, at times I do not feel you are a genuine poster.

      The ‘standard’ of post on this site has admitedly has been a little low at times since perjorative insults have gotten through and some posters don’t even check ‘wikipedia’ level facts before posting their opinions. It is a difficult job moderating such a newgroup.

      What do you suggest?

    • Mark Hess's Gravatar Mark Hess
      July 24, 2011 - 1:54 am | Permalink

      Bear and Trainspotter,

      I am not posturing. Have either of your read most of the comments to the posts I mentioned?

      I do not doubt that Dr. MacDonald feels a great amount of sorrow for the victims of this tragedy. If I did not respect and admire him and his work, I would not have wasted my time at this site.

      However, I can promise you that those who do not think so highly of him will look at this post and say, “See? I told you so.”

    • Mothergoose's Gravatar Mothergoose
      July 24, 2011 - 3:43 am | Permalink

      @ Mark Hess

      I agree with Bear’s comment to you above (and with his comment below about the hate-crime laws bearing a heavy responsibility in all this). Your comment is totally off the point. What we are trying to do is to understand what this horrendous act implies for our own movement, and take note of the fact of the ethnic/racial violence lurking under the surface of our social setup seems to be inevitably written into its DNA.

      Anyway, I’m still not convinced that there isn’t a false flag element in this. Ask yourself the age-old question: cui bono?

    • nonamer's Gravatar nonamer
      July 24, 2011 - 7:08 am | Permalink


      This must be your first comment on the internet that isn’t a defence of judeofeminism. I am surprised. Are you feeling alright?

    • Mark Hess's Gravatar Mark Hess
      July 24, 2011 - 11:32 am | Permalink


      Thanks for what you have written above, as it underscores yet another alarmingly prevalent trait of many who comment at sites like this. You are quite comfortable with lying.

      I have never written anything that is pro-Judaic, let alone supportive of ‘Judeofeminism.’

      Do you think that being a liar does your cause, whatever that could be, any good?

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 11:49 am | Permalink


      most of us are here for facts, data and analysis. We need to understand this man and how it will impact us. If you want emotional posturing go to face book, the MSM or do a tribute video on you tube.

      Hear, hear. The general “concern troll” template goes something like this – “I’m very concerned that you will make us look badif you don’t stop talking about this, that, or the other. It’s typical “gate-keeping” behavior. Their presumption is quite humorous.

      @Mark Hess

      irrational, cruel, pathetic and loathsome hate-mongers.

      Are you talking about me? That’s not a very nice thing to say.

  146. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    July 24, 2011 - 12:17 am | Permalink

    I think a lot of people will read his book.

    • FWM's Gravatar FWM
      July 24, 2011 - 7:50 am | Permalink

      You mean like Kill the Best Gentiles! by James von Brunn?

  147. July 23, 2011 - 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Everyone should see the video in full screen and pause to read everything he wrote. I doubt any of us would disagree with any of it. (The videos posted on YouTube are not high definition so you can’t read what he says.)

    I disagree with his tactics but can understand why he chose them. (They were being indoctrinated at the island to accept multiculturalism.)

  148. Henry's Gravatar Henry
    July 23, 2011 - 10:48 pm | Permalink

    “50 years of efforts by the ethnocentric organizations / movements (from 1960-2009) have failed completely. We know this and further focus, illumination of these strategies will only be counter-productive and potentially very damaging to the current Norwegian and European cultural conservative movement.” I really don’t agree with him on this point or his mass murder of innocent people for that matter. But with regards to ethnocentrism; I feel it is growing among Whites, and the problem is with the Jewish owned mass media, which attacks Whites continuously for promoting racial interest but then goes on to promote non-White racial interests. The reality isn’t that Islam will take over, or a different culture will take over, the reality is that Whites will be killed based on race, no matter the invader, whether black, Asian, Arab, Muslim, doesn’t matter. Diversity=War, no matter what part of the world the diversity occurs in.

  149. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 23, 2011 - 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Professor MacDonald,

    While I agree that this guy’s ideas (at least what is written above) are worthy of contemplation, I hope you realize that posting his thoughts like this is going to become the equivalent of reading Mein Kampf in the student union. This guy’s evil behavior is going to be used to tar ANYONE who agrees with any such thoughts, and your clinical dispassion, while driven by legitimate motives, is going to be construed as a wink and a nod by those who wish to tar any nationalist as a sociopath.

    There were people in government who would like to put anyone who posts on this site on the terror watch list even before this incident.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 12:26 pm | Permalink

      Lets be Clear:THIS MAN KILLED FOR ISREAL!!!!!!Thats the bottom line-PERIOD.The media is desperatly trying to ignore and deflect this.HE IS A NEOCONSERVATIVE FREEMASON CHRISTAIN FUNDEMENTILIST in the old of the USA’s Republicans since Gingrich/Bush2/McCain and the rest.

  150. Bengt's Gravatar Bengt
    July 23, 2011 - 10:31 pm | Permalink

    “In general, however, it must be said that he is a serious political thinker with a great many insights and some good practical ideas on strategy”

    Even if this is true, it is not a very smart thing to say at this point.

  151. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    July 23, 2011 - 10:26 pm | Permalink

    It seems you guys think he’s guilty, I have serious misgivings about it, it REEKS of a false flag. He’s a patsy, think Oswald, McVeigh, OBL, etc. Think the Besslan massacre of Russian school children, the Bali Bombers massacre of 200 of whom 82 were Australians, think the Bombay random shooting of anyone in sight.

    A handsome 32 year old self made millionaire, who looks like the Aryan Ubermensch straight out of central casting, acting James Bond like alone, drives his home made truck-bomb containing six tons of Fertilizer into downtown Oslo to the Norwegian Prime Ministers’ office. After it successfully detonates killing at least nine persons, he drives to an Island an hour-and-a-half away, changes into a policeman’s uniform and boards a BOAT to the Island where Norway’s equivalent to the Democratic Party holds a youth rally celebrating Vladimir Lenin’s achievements and proceeds to shoot, at last count, over NINETY, free range Goyishe youths, aged from 14 to 25 stone motherless DEAD?

    All by himself?

    But wait, there’s more! It turns out in addition to being a handsome blonde self made 32 year old Aryan millionaire, he’s a deep political thinker, lecturing all over Scandinavia obsessed at what he sees as a demographic race war underway between Islam and European Christendom. He’s published his thoughts in a book and even made a film posted on Youtube (Now removed) on what he sees as a war lasting 20 to 70 years.

    He wants to rescue all Europe from the evils of Islam and he personally murders 100 people in a matter of hours all by himself?

    I don’t believe it. There is something unkosher about this story.

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      July 24, 2011 - 2:48 am | Permalink

      If it were a black op, it wouldn’t be the first in contemporary Europe. London the exemplar. Recommended viewing :The Ripple Effect.

    • Victoria's Gravatar Victoria
      July 24, 2011 - 3:07 am | Permalink

      This was my thought as well. It all just seems a bit too convenient for a victimized leftist government….the perfect perpetrator for potentially laying the foundations for anti-conservative persecution of one sort or another. The extremist Left is already much more inclined toward violence than the Right. Could this somehow have been an inside job? The probable false flag 911 attacks and ensuing Patriot Act and Homeland Security department come to mind…I am not willing to accept government statements and media reporting at face value.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      July 24, 2011 - 10:08 am | Permalink

      Floda, it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic.

      A handsome 32 year old self made millionaire, who looks like the Aryan Ubermensch straight out of central casting, acting James Bond like alone, drives his home made truck-bomb containing six tons of Fertilizer into downtown Oslo to the Norwegian Prime Ministers’ office. After it successfully detonates killing at least nine persons, he drives to an Island an hour-and-a-half away, changes into a policeman’s uniform and boards a BOAT to the Island where Norway’s equivalent to the Democratic Party holds a youth rally celebrating Vladimir Lenin’s achievements and proceeds to shoot, at last count, over NINETY, free range Goyishe youths, aged from 14 to 25 stone motherless DEAD?

      All by himself?

      New Hollywood blockbuster coming to a theater near you!

    • Systemic's Gravatar Systemic
      July 24, 2011 - 4:27 pm | Permalink

      No NO NO-you’re wrong. See Matt Parrot told me that we can trust the official account in this case because conspiracy theorists like yourself are just nutjobs looking for attention. You guys gotta start listening to Matt, he knows what he’s talking about.LOL

  152. Fynn's Gravatar Fynn
    July 23, 2011 - 9:58 pm | Permalink

    This guy seems to fall under a similar rubric as a Ted Kaczynski or a Tim McVeigh. McVeigh didn’t write any tracts that I know of, and even though he killed more people, doesn’t seem as creepy as this guy running around shooting teenagers. He might want a megaphone for his political ideas, but I don’t think he will get one beyond the initial coverage. Maybe now using the term “cultural marxism” will raise suspicion that you’re about to go on a killing spree.

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      July 24, 2011 - 1:58 am | Permalink

      Timothy McVeigh wasn’t likely the lone nutter we’ve all come to know (MSM identikit). Poor audio, but still packs a punch:

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      July 24, 2011 - 9:03 pm | Permalink

      Fynn – bingo.

    • Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
      July 24, 2011 - 9:06 pm | Permalink

      Not even close, actually.

    • Que Zee's Gravatar Que Zee
      July 24, 2011 - 11:03 pm | Permalink

      It appears by his initial statements that he is indeed following a specific strategy/tactic: ‎”The goal for the European resistance fighter is not to win the trial but to present all available evidence, presented in this compendium, and his cause in the most favourable way in order to help generate a maximum amount of sympathisers and supporters for the national and/or European patriotic resistance movement.” (from ) How Machiavellian of Mr. Breivik, hm?

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 8:43 am | Permalink

      Conservatisem today is JEWISH.Organized Christanity is controlled and ued by them to keep the Goyem controlled.This ‘Patriot’in Norway is the example on the ‘illegal scale’.Bush 2 was his type as well.But he got away with it.See Brevins calls Ntional Socialisem a ‘Far Left’ideology.Thats right out of that front group; the John Birch Society,FOX NEWS,National Review and the rest of Jewish Finance Capital,Conservtisem,where money and’the individual,counts more than our race and traditions.Oh how great that conservative Winston Churchill was as he backed by the Jews tore up Europe ‘FOR FREEDOM”.Brevins killed white people for ‘God,country and Jesus’.He’s whats wrong with the world.He’s why we are dying.

  153. Steve's Gravatar Steve
    July 23, 2011 - 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Enoch Powell’s “rivers of blood” continue to flow with greater voracity. Europe’s apathy towards massive and hostile non-White immigration continues to prove deadly. It shall be seen whether the bankers, EU, and mass media will continue to plot their course of forced immigration against the wishes of the majority at any cost.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 10:48 am | Permalink

      Europe has been occupied by Zionist America since 1945.With NATO expansion the American cancer moved East.There is know freedom of speech there,(David Irvings arrest the most prominent example).All of this stems from the Rothchilds of England and there Christain collaborators on the left,and right.Not unless the Jew menace is revealed and Aryan-Greco-Roman thought and pride is built again can this yoke be overturned.This rotten shooter is OUR WORSE ENEMY!He is a Christan Zionist.There is NOTHING MORE DANGEROUSE!

  154. RAH's Gravatar RAH
    July 23, 2011 - 9:38 pm | Permalink

    I think his anti-racism was tactical. From page 1180 of 2083:

    “In any case, we need to get over this taboo as soon as possible because it is estimated that the Nordic genotypes will be extinct completely within 200 years. This is mainly due to intermarriage between Nordics and non-Nordics. Multiculturalist doctrines have speeded this “indirect extermination process” up further in many Western European countries so the extinction might happen sooner. F example the Norwegian cultural Marxist government has created a vast network of asylum camps all over the country
    (and in historically isolated small towns and villages) which will contribute to accelerate this process substantially. The Nordic genotypes might be wiped out within 200 years and yet not a single counter-measure has been employed to prevent this from happening due to the fact that it is considered politically incorrect.”

    • July 24, 2011 - 2:01 pm | Permalink

      So why not just get married and have a dozen children? More fun and more partisans.

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      July 24, 2011 - 11:37 pm | Permalink

      Helvena – bingo.

  155. John's Gravatar John
    July 23, 2011 - 8:34 pm | Permalink

    He’s obviously not an unintelligent person. I just wonder how this shooting rampage really fits in with his goals of ending multiculturalism. I mean, obviously he views the labor party as hostile to the native Norwegians, but to kill children? Usually that’s a bad PR move, just sayin’.

    I can only think that perhaps he is trying to “martyr” himself in a way by illustrating that a lot of violence will occur by people opposed to a multicultural society before the end comes. My guess though is that nobody is going to follow in his footsteps. Norway is a small country and will probably be mostly Muslim in 20-30-40 years…people will complain, but that will be about it.

    • RegvlvsSeradly's Gravatar RegvlvsSeradly
      July 24, 2011 - 2:14 am | Permalink

      Revenge, I do suspect. Deranged revenge, which we call “going postal” in the US.

      He targeted the children of Labor party members, sending the most cruel, irrational message imaginable.

      However, I do see an Israeli angle playing into this. A rage against Norwegian Anti-Zionism may have been what pushed him over the edge.

    • John's Gravatar John
      July 24, 2011 - 10:53 am | Permalink

      This all reminds me of this dude:

      Mr. Goldstein is considered a hero in some circles of Israel.

    • John's Gravatar John
      July 24, 2011 - 10:57 am | Permalink

      Oh, and the bottom of that wikipedia page confirms it.

      At Goldstein’s funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are “not worth a Jewish fingernail”.[20][21][22] Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the “greatest Jew alive, not in one way but in every way” and said that he was “the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect.”[21][22] In contrast, mainstream Jewish religious leaders “rejected the suggestion that killing Palestinians with an automatic rifle” was authorized by the Torah.[20]

      In the weeks following the massacre, hundreds of Israelis traveled to Goldstein’s grave to celebrate Goldstein’s actions. Some Hasidim danced and sang around his grave.[23] Although the government has said that those who celebrated the massacre represented only a tiny minority of Israelis, a New York Times report states that Israeli government claims may understate the phenomenon.[23] According to one visitor to the gravesite in the wake of the attacks, “If [Goldstein] stopped these so-called peace talks, then he is truly holy because this is not real peace.”[23] Some visitors kissed and hugged the gravestone, or even kissed the earth under which Goldstein was buried, declaring him a “saint” and “hero of Israel.”[23]

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      July 25, 2011 - 3:24 am | Permalink

      The Chosen may have opened the immigration gates but they are not buying them airline tickets. The Frankfurt School philosophy has taken on its own momentum. There are violent white Marxist gangs in Europe (antifa, UAF, who support open borders and an end to European culture) who clash with nationalists. The attack on the Worker’s Youth League was an indirect attack on Norway’s Marxist faction. I believe he is hoping for a retaliation by these Marxist thugs and the beginning of a low intensity civil war. What is the answer if not civil war? Conservative TV stations/movies? conservative colleges? A redo of the anthropological take on race? Voting (where you have to have media support)? Sure, no problem. NO, the Chosen have these all locked down – only a mass awakening by the people will work and only the unveiling of the true violent intentions of the Marxist faction (its no longer just Jewish) will do it.

  156. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    July 23, 2011 - 8:10 pm | Permalink

    He’s just another brainwashed white Christard who thinks that abstract fantasies(religion) are more important than real things(genetics and biology)

    Worthless scum.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      July 23, 2011 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

      At least from what I’ve read above, he seems more interested in the cultural aspects of Christianity because they represent European peoples. There is no indication he was motivated by what you would construe as magical thinking.

      You really have become a one-trick pony.

    • Systemic's Gravatar Systemic
      July 24, 2011 - 1:47 pm | Permalink

      Like I’ve said in other posts about Zoggy Baby–Look how vile and full of hatred he is over the mention of What a loser. Only a Jew has that reaction.
      – Zoggy why are you so obsessed with Jesus, even more than a believer!? Once again, if Jesus is so fake, why act in a fetishised manner over the topic? You make no sense. You’re actually making people believe in Jesus because if YOU represent a NON-BELIEVER acting like the true fetishised weirdo that you are, then how is that attractive enough for someone to drop Jesus and follow you?lol Any salesman will tell you in order to persuade one to your side you can’t come off as a psycho as you have accomplished. Just sayin–lol

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      July 24, 2011 - 8:59 pm | Permalink

      Amen. There are, to my dumbfounded dismay, normally-bright, astute people romanticizing this cretin.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 1:32 am | Permalink

      The Norwegian killer was reacting to the Norwegian Governments ‘boycott I sreal stance.Theeee young people he shot were at a Labor Youth Camp which flew a ‘boycott Isreal flag!!(See Gilad Atzamen).The Jew press wants him to be a “Nazi”,but he is a typical NEOCONSERVATIVE Christan Zionist idiot.A typical Tea Party;modern Republican type.His hero is that cretin and Rothchild puppit:WINSTON CHURCHILL of course.I guess he was watching Rupert Murdochs FOX NEWS on Satellite!

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 25, 2011 - 8:31 am | Permalink

      @Northern Light
      Don’t confuse neocons with Tea Partiers. Regrettably, there may be some overlap, but they are not the same.

  157. Gray Prince's Gravatar Gray Prince
    July 23, 2011 - 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Come to think of it, from several email discourses and internet discussions I’ve had with a handfull of Scandinavian right-wingers, I do believe I have detected a number of subtle, subtextual advocations of terrorism. It may have been my imagination, but events would suggest that there is such an undercurrent in that milieu. The viking berserker ethos is very much alive! It’s a shame, because this is so destructive in the literal sense, and then with the “crackdowns” that will probably result.

    • Gray Prince's Gravatar Gray Prince
      July 24, 2011 - 10:51 am | Permalink

      Kind of funny, the maximum prison sentence this guy can get is 21 years! That’s the worst sentence in Norway! And they have (at least prior to this event) the lowest homicide rate in the world. What could it be? Surely not the demographics….

    • Gray Prince's Gravatar Gray Prince
      July 24, 2011 - 10:54 am | Permalink

      That also may explain why he didn’t kill himself.

  158. Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
    July 23, 2011 - 7:22 pm | Permalink
  159. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 23, 2011 - 7:03 pm | Permalink

    What at a first reading is most disturbing about this material is the extent to which it is reminiscent (in foam-flecked tone if not precise content) of the speech and writings of such shabbos-goy neocon stooges as Frank Gaffney and Thomas Barnett. Yet Breivik also seems to have no clue as to how irreconcilable the pro-Tribal and anti-multicultural aspects of his creed actually are.

    The combination of his robotic neocon indoctrination and his horrifically immoral actions brand him as a sort of prototype of the Universal Gentile Soldier for the Tribe’s endless wars on the goyim. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the central office of the Mossad or the ADL! What satanic hosannas one might hear!

    • Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
      July 24, 2011 - 8:33 am | Permalink

      Frank Gaffney – in spite of his “Irish” name – is a Jew,and that is clearly visible.Technically therefore he cannot be a “shabbos-goy”.His “neo-con” agenda is a Jewish agenda.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      July 24, 2011 - 8:48 am | Permalink

      Irreconcilable, indeed, Pierre. It will be interesting to see what Tribe influences on Breivik emerge.

    • Felix Grubel's Gravatar Felix Grubel
      July 24, 2011 - 1:46 pm | Permalink

      Did Breivik’s philo-semitism prevent him from acknowledging (or even seeing) who were disproportionately the largest proponents of Norwegian multiculturalism and open immigration?

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      July 24, 2011 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

      Mr. Ryckaert: You may know more about Frank Gaffney than I do—I have been watching Gaffney for thirty years and more, however—but there is nothing scare-quote Irish about his surname. It is as truly Irish as Flanagan, Donnelly, McNamara, Egan, or O’Toole. Being half Irish myself, I grew up with Gaffneys all around me.

      Nor do I see anything remotely kosher in his face, which is to all intents and purposes identical to that of a neighbor of mine named Farrell, right down to the hairline rapidly receding toward Cleveland. If Gaffney is a crypto rather than a stooge, I am not the only mick or half-mick to be duped.

      Mr. Grubel, I believe that the answer to your question is a plain and simple yes. Every day millions of our fellow Americans smugly succeed in kidding themselves in precisely the same way. They slavishily acquiesce in the fetid notion that accusing a member of the Tribe of wrongdoing is worse than mass murder.

  160. Fiction's Gravatar Fiction
    July 23, 2011 - 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Anders Behring Breivik a serious political thinker? Well, he’ll certainly have a lot of thinking time now that he’s in prison. He won’t be of much use to Europe behind bars.

    If he really was a millionaire, then why didn’t he spend his money more wisely? For example, setting up an animation studio and using it to produce propaganda cartoons to convert children with? (This is what the Muslims are doing)

    I don’t think his actions will result in a change of policy in Norway. If he was willing to risk a prison sentence then he probably would have been better off just bribing politicians into changing immigration policy.

    • Northern Light's Gravatar Northern Light
      July 25, 2011 - 1:55 am | Permalink

      In reading this fools writings he seems to have been getting FOX NEWS/MURDOCH views on satellite.He is a typical NEOCONSERVATIVE FUNDEMENTILIST ZIONIST Christain.His hero was the cretinenous alcholic murderous Rothchild puppit Winston Churchill.He was obviously reacting to the Norwegian governments boycotts of Isreal.The young people he shot were flying a ‘Boycott Isreal’,flag at a labor youth camp!The media won’t tell you that!The Jews want him to be a ‘Nazi’,and so do the ‘gooood’conservatives.But he was part of the most dangerous movment since Bolshivesem.The insipid creature of Zionist enslavement of the nations.Judeo-Christanity.

  161. Hans's Gravatar Hans
    July 23, 2011 - 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Even in light of how many people this man murdered, it’s undeniable that the most prolific murderers have been on the Left beginning with Mao and Stalin:

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