Part 2: Jewish Responses to Wagner’s Ideas
Basically ignoring whether Wagner’s views on Jewish influence on German art and culture had any validity, a long line of Jewish music writers and intellectuals have furiously attacked the composer for having expressed them. In his essay “Know Thyself” Wagner writes of the fierce backlash that followed his drawing “notice to the Jews’ inaptitude for taking a productive share in our Art,” which was “met by the utmost indignation of Jews and Germans alike; it became quite dangerous to breathe the word ‘Jew’ with a doubtful accent.” Wagner’s critique of Jewish influence on German art and culture could not be dismissed as the ravings of an unintelligent and ignorant fool. Richard Wagner was, by common consent, one of the most brilliant human beings to have ever lived, and his views on the Jewish Question were cogent and rational. Accordingly, Jewish critics soon settled on the response of ascribing psychiatric disorders to Wagner, and this has been a stock approach ever since. As early as 1872 the German Jewish psychiatrist Theodor Puschmann, offered a psychological assessment of Wagner which was widely reported in the German press. He claimed that Wagner was suffering from “chronic megalomania, paranoia… and moral derangement.”
The long-time music critic for the New York Times, Harold Schonberg (who was a Jew), described Wagner in his Lives of the Great Composers (1997) as “amoral, hedonistic, selfish, virulently racist, arrogant, filled with gospels of the superman … and the superiority of the German race, he stands for all that is unpleasant in human character.” In 1968 the Jewish writer Robert Gutman published a biography of Wagner (Richard Wagner: the Man, his Mind and his Music) in which he portrayed his subject as a racist, psychopathic, proto-Nazi monster. Gutman’s scholarship was questioned at the time, but this did not prevent his book from becoming a best-seller, and as one source notes: “An entire generation of students has been encouraged to accept Gutman’s caricature of Richard Wagner. Even intelligent people, who have either never read Wagner’s writings or tried to penetrate them and failed … have read Gutman’s book and accepted his opinions as facts.”

Another prominent refrain from Jewish commentators like Jacob Katz, the author of The Darker Side of Genius: Richard Wagner’s Anti-Semitism, is that Wagner’s concern about the Jewish influence on German culture stemmed from his jealousy at the brilliant Jews around him like Mendelssohn, Meyerbeer and Heine. Taking up this theme, the music writer David Goldman insists that: “Wagner ripped off the scenario for his opera “The Flying Dutchman” from Heine and knocked off Mendelssohn’s “Fingal’s Cave” overture in the “Dutchman’s” evocation of the sea. Wagner tried to cover his guilty tracks by denouncing Jewish composers he emulated, including Giacomo Meyerbeer. Wagner was not just a Jew-hater, then, but a backstabbing self-promoter who defamed the Jewish artists he emulated and who (in Meyerbeer’s case) had advanced his career.” Boroson, writing in the Jewish Standard, likewise asserts that Wagner’s envy of Meyerbeer’s success “played a pivotal role in Wagner’s suddenly becoming a Jew-hater.”
Invoking Freud and the Frankfurt School, the Jewish music writer Marc A. Weiner in his Richard Wagner and the Anti-Semitic Imagination, claims that “Wagner’s vehement hatred of Jews was based on a model of projection involving a deep-seated fear of precisely those features within the Self (diminutive stature, nervous demeanour and avarice, as well as lascivious nature) that are projected upon and then recognized and stigmatized in the hated Other.” (p. 6) Weiner’s view echoes that of Theodore Rubin who views anti-Semitism as a “symbol sickness” that involves “envy, low self-esteem and projection of one’s inner conflicts onto a stereotyped other.” All these various theories, where Wagner’s criticism of Jewish influence is made entirely a scapegoat for his own psychological frustrations, vastly overemphasize the irrational sources of prejudice and effectively serve, as Higham put it, to “clothe the Jews in defensive innocence.” (p. 58) According to these theories, anti-Jewish sentiment is never rational, but invariably the product of a warped mind, while Jewish critiques of Europeans and their culture always have a rational basis.
Another well-worn theory has it is that Wagner may have been part-Jewish, and that his “rabid anti-Semitism” was his way of dealing this unedifying prospect (a variation of the “self-hating Jew” hypothesis). It is claimed that Wagner’s biological father was not his presumed father, Friedrich Wagner, but his stepfather, the successful actor and painter Ludwig Geyer. However, there is no evidence that Geyer had any Jewish roots. In his biography of the composer, John Chancellor states categorically that he had none, and that: “He [Geyer] claimed the same sturdy descent as the Wagners. His pedigree also went back to the middle of the seventeenth century and his forefathers were also, for the most part, organists in small Thuringian towns and villages.” (p. 6)
Chancellor blames Friedrich Nietzsche for first raising the question of Geyer’s possible Jewishness to add extra sting to his charge of illegitimacy, after the philosopher famously fell out with Wagner. In his 1888 book Der Fall Wagner (The Case of Wagner) Nietzsche claimed that Wagner’s father was Geyer, and made the pun that “Ein Geyer ist beinahe schon ein Adler” (A vulture is almost an eagle) — Geyer also being the German word for a vulture and Adler being a common Jewish surname. Despite these conjectures on the part of Nietzsche and then legions of music historians and biographers, there is no evidence that Ludwig Geyer was Jewish.
The lack of evidence did not deter Gutman, however, who contended that Richard Wagner and his wife Cosima tried to outdo each other in their anti-Semitism because they both had Jewish roots to conceal. While offering no proof that Geyer was Jewish, Gutman maintained that Wagner in his later years discovered letters from Geyer to his mother which led him to suspect that Geyer was his biological father, and thought that Geyer might have been Jewish. Wagner’s anti-Semitism was, according to Gutman, his way of dealing with the fear that people would think he was Jewish. Strahan recycles this theme in a recent article, noting that:
Geyer’s affair with Wagner’s mother pre-dated the death of Wagner’s presumed father, Friedrich Wagner, a Police Registrar who was ill at the time young Richard was conceived, and who died six months after his birth. Soon after this, Wagner’s mother Johanna married Ludwig Geyer. Richard Wagner himself was known as Richard Geyer until, at the age of 14, he had his name legally changed to Wagner. Apparently he had taken some abuse at school because of his Jewish-sounding name. Could his later anti-Semitism have been motivated, at least in part, by sensitivity to this abuse, and by a kind of pre-emptive denial to prevent difficulties and suffering arising from prejudice?
According to the only evidence we have on this point (Cosima’s diaries, 26 December 1868) Wagner “did not believe” that Ludwig Geyer was his real father. Cosima did, however, once note a resemblance between Wagner’s son Siegfried and a picture of Geyer (p. 1). Pursuing the theme that anyone who expresses antipathy toward Jews must be psychologically unhealthy, Larry Solomon draws a parallel between Wagner and Adolf Hitler in that “Both feared they had Jewish paternity, which led to fierce denial and destructive hatred.”
Wagner’s Music Dramas as Coded Anti-Semitism
T.W. Adorno and Robert Gutman began a modern Jewish intellectual tradition when they proposed that Wagner’s antipathy to Jews was not limited to articles like Judaism in Music, but that there are hidden anti-Semitic and racist messages in Wagner’s operas. Numerous Jewish writers have taken up this theme and encouraged audiences to retrospectively read into Wagner’s operas latent signs of anti-Semitism. The gold-loving Nibelung lord Alberich in Siegfried is, for instance, supposedly a symbol of Jewish materialism. Solomon writes that Alberich is clearly “the greedy merchant Jew, who becomes the power-crazed goblin-demon lusting after Aryan maidens, attempting to contaminate their blood, and who sacrifices his lust in order to acquire the gold.”

Viktor Chernomortsev, left, as Alberich and Vasliy Gorshkov as Mime in the Kirov Opera production of Wagner's "Siegfried" at the Orange County Performing Arts Center in 2006.
In The Mastersingers of Nuremburg, Beckmesser, who is incapable of original work and resorts to stealing the work of others, is said to symbolize the lack of Jewish originality that Wagner highlighted in Judaism in Music. According to Gutman, Beckmesser was modeled after Eduard Hanslick, the powerful half-Jewish music critic who constantly disparaged Wagner. The characters of Mime in the Ring and Klingsor in Parsifal are also identified as Jewish stereotypes, although none of these were actually identified as Jews by Wagner in the libretto. Mime is, for Solomon, depicted by Wagner “as a stinking ghetto Jew” while “Siegfried represents the conscience-free, fearless Teuton, he feels no remorse… He is glorified as the warrior hero of the Ring, the archetypal proto-Nazi.”
Solomon is unconcerned at the lack of any real evidence for his thesis, maintaining that virulent racism “permeates all aspects of his music dramas through metaphorical suggestion. Wagner is always just a step away from actually calling his evil characters ‘Jews’, even though it was obvious to his contemporaries.” He claims that Wagner was too clever to identify Jews in his music dramas, especially after he had received critical reactions to his essay Judaism in Music. “His intent was far more artful and covert, but nevertheless still political: to reach his audience on an emotional, subliminal level, bypassing their critical faculties.” In the final analysis, Wagner’s operas are for Solomon “tools of racist, proto-Nazi hate propaganda, written for the purpose of redeeming the German race from Jewish contamination, and for expelling the Jews from Germany.” Moreover, the malign influence of Wagner sadly continues insofar as “the subtext of racist metaphors has not diminished in Wagner’s operas, so they will continue to exert a subliminal influence.”
In his book Richard Wagner and the Anti-Semitic Imagination (1997) Marc A. Weiner similarly argued that Wagner deliberately used his characters to promote his sociological theories of a pure Germany purged of Jewish influence. According to Weiner:
Wagner’s anti-Semitism is integral to an understanding of his mature music dramas. … I have analyzed the corporeal images in his dramatic works against the background of 19th-century racist imagery. By examining such bodily images as the elevated, nasal voice, the “foetor judaicus” (Jewish stench), the hobbling gait, the ashen skin color, and deviant sexuality associated with Jews in the 19th century, it’s become clear to me that the images of Alberich, Mime, and Hagen [in the Ring cycle], Beckmesser [in Die Meistersinger], and Klingsor [in Parsifal], were drawn from stock anti-Semitic clichés of Wagner’s time.
For Weiner, Wagner’s anti-Semitic caricatures can be readily identified from their manner of speech, their singing, their roles, and their body language. “All of the stereotypical cardboard, cookie-cutter features of a Jew … show up all over the place in his musical dramas.” Under Weiner’s deconstruction of Wagner’s characters it emerges that his Teutonic heroes are “invariably clear-eyed, deep-voiced, straight-featured and sure-footed. The Jewish anti-heroes have dripping eyes, high voices, bent, crooked bodies and a hobbling, awkward step, with these embodied metaphors all serving to reinforce the ideology of racism.” In response to Weiner’s critique one is reminded of the aptness of historian Goldwin Smith’s remark that “critics of Judaism are accused of bigotry of race, as well as bigotry of religion. This accusation comes strangely from those who style themselves the Chosen People, make race a religion, and treat all races except their own as Gentile and unclean.” (p. 56)
Numerous Jewish commentators cite Wagner’s Parsifal, the last of his music dramas, as “possibly his most racist opera.” For the Jewish writer Paul Lawrence Rose, in his 1992 book Wagner, Race and Revolution, Wagner intended his Parsifal to be
a profound religious parable about how the whole essence of European humanity had been poisoned by alien, inhuman, Jewish values. It is an allegory of the Judaization of Christianity and of Germany — and of purifying redemption. In place of theological purity, the secularized religion of Parsifal preached the new doctrine of racial purity, which was reflected in the moral and indeed religious, purity of Parsifal himself. In Wagner’s mind, this redeeming purity was infringed by Jews, just as devils and witches infringed the purity of traditional Christianity. In this scheme, it is axiomatic that compassion and redemption have no application to the inexorably damned Judaized Klingsor and hence the Jews. (p. 166)
Jewish music critics and intellectuals, like those cited above, have enthusiastically seized upon Wagner’s great grandson Gottfried for having backed their various theories about the inherently anti-Semitic nature of Wagner’s operas, and Wagner’s firm standing as a moral
pariah. Gottfried Wagner has made a virtual career out of relentlessly attacking his ancestors — constantly denouncing his great-grandfather and other family members as evil anti-Semites. In his 1999 book, Twilight of the Wagners: The Unveiling of a Family’s Legacy, Gottfried Wagner, according to Solomon, “in an act of self-imposed moral obligation and great personal sacrifice, restored to his roots the conscience that Wagner and Hitler took away.” To the great satisfaction of Carol Jean Delmar (the Jewish leader of a campaign to have the LA Opera’s 2009 production of the Ring cancelled), the philo-Semitic Gottfried Wagner appeared at a symposium at the American Jewish University in 2010 where he continued “to set the record straight today. Always on the side of the Jews, he stopped off on Shabbos to mingle with congregants at a local temple.”
Despite all the claims made about the anti-Semitic nature of Wagner’s operas, Strahan points out that it is equally possible to point to cultural references in Wagner’s work that are sympathetic to the Jewish place in European culture. For Strahan, “the hero of the early opera The Flying Dutchman is synonymous with the ‘Wandering Jew,’ the Dutchman’s endless journeying analogous to that symbol of the Jewish Diaspora.” Wagner himself referred to his eminently non-Jewish personification of redemption through love, the Flying Dutchman, as an “Ahasverus of the Ocean.”
Wagner produced thousands of pages of written material analyzing every aspect of himself, his operas, and his views on Jews (as well as many other topics); and yet the purportedly “Jewish” characterizations identified by Adorno, Gutman and countless others are never mentioned, nor are there any references to them in Cosima Wagner’s copious diaries. None of Wagner’s supposedly obvious characterizations were ever used in the propaganda of the Third Reich.To identify such characters as Beckmesser, Alberich, Mime, Klingsor and Kundry as Jews is thus entirely speculative. The Jewish pianist and conductor Daniel Barenboim makes the point that: “Whoever wants to see a repulsive attack on Jews in Wagner’s operas can of course do so. But is it really justified? Beckmesser, for example, who might be suspected of being a Jewish parody, was a state scribe in the year 1500, a position that was unavailable to Jews.”
Wagner and National Socialist Germany
Wagner has long been reviled by Jews as the intellectual and spiritual precursor to Adolf Hitler, who according to William Shirer, once declared “Whoever wants to understand National Socialist Germany must know Wagner.” This line is spoken by the Hitler character in the 2008 Hollywood film Valkyrie. For Solomon, no other composer in history had a greater impact on world events than Richard Wagner; and that “his devastating political legacy is second only to Adolf Hitler.” In his book Anti-Semitism: A Disease of the Mind: A Psychiatrist Explores the Psychodynamics of a Symbol Sickness, Theodore Isaac Rubin states categorically that a psychologically sick Adolf Hitler “borrowed from the almost equally sick anti-Semitic Wagner.”
This widely accepted notion of a direct intellectual line of descent from Wagner to Hitler has, however, been challenged by the historian Richard Evans (a key witness on behalf of Deborah Lipstadt in her defense against the libel suit brought by David Irving) who pointed out that there is no evidence that Hitler even read any of Wagner’s writings. In the early twentieth century these writings were rarely reprinted or discussed outside of academic circles. Hitler seldom mentioned Wagner in his own writings, and rarely in public, and when he did, it was never in relation to Jews, but rather to his standing as a German leader and visionary. Wagner’s influence on Hitler was at best secondhand through the influence of his son-in-law Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who developed some of Wagner’s ideas in his bestselling 1899 book The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, which did influence Hitler’s ideas on race and the Jewish Question. Despite the lack of a direct intellectual link between Wagner and Hitler, for the Jewish music writer David Goldman, Wagner’s name is eminently worthy of execration on the basis that he “mixed the compost heap in which the flowers of the 20th century’s greatest evil took root.” According to Goldman,
the Nazis embraced Wagner not by accident or opportunism but because they recognized in him the cultural trailblazer of the world they set out to rule. … Wagner may not have been the only anti-Semite among the composers of the 19th century, nor even the worst, but he did more than anyone else to mold the culture in which Nazism flourished. The Jewish people have had no enemy more dedicated and more dangerous, precisely because of his enormous talent. In a Jewish state, the public has a right to ask Jewish musicians to be Jews first and musicians second. With reluctance, and in cognizance of all the ambiguities, I think the Israelis are right to silence him. [Goldman here refers to the unofficial ban on performances of Wagner’s music in Israel]
For Goldman, Hitler’s intellectual debt to Wagner and the “proto-Nazi” nature of Wagner’s music dramas are unambiguous. Nevertheless, Evans dismisses the notion that Wagner’s works inherently support National Socialist notions of heroism, and notes that Wagner’s last opera Parsifal (frequently cited as Wagner’s most “racist” opera) was denounced by the regime in 1933 for being “ideologically unacceptable” and was not performed at Bayreuth during the war. Moreover, while Wagner’s music was often performed during the Third Reich, his popularity in Germany actually declined in favor of Italian composers like Verdi and Puccini. Evans notes that by the 1938–39 opera season, Wagner had only one opera in the top fifteen most popular operas of the season, with the list being headed by Leoncavallo’s Pagliacci. (p. 198–201)
It is well known that The Berlin Philharmonic’s last performance prior to their evacuation from Berlin in April 1945 was of Brünnhilde’s immolation scene at the end of Wagner’s Götterdämmerung to an audience that included Speer, Dönitz and Goebbels. This music has since been used in countless Third Reich documentaries — in the process consolidating the impression that Wagner’s music was uniquely bound up with the cultural politics of the National Socialist state. Although, as noted above, there is no evidence that Hitler’s attitudes on Jews derived from Wagner, it is clear that the National Socialist fascination with Wagner (to the extent it genuinely existed) was Hitler’s inspiration. In one of three brief references to Wagner in Mein Kampf, Hitler reflects on his early experiences attending Wagner’s operas: “I was captivated. My youthful enthusiasm for the master of Bayreuth knew no bounds. Again and again I was drawn to his works, and it still seems to me especially fortunate that the most modest provincial performance left me open to an intensified experience later on.” Hitler became a friend of Wagner’s children and grandchildren, and particularly of his English-born daughter-in-law Winifred. In 1933 he ordered that each Nuremberg Rally would open with a performance of the Meistersinger overture, though these performances were mostly unpopular with other Party functionaries who had be ordered to attend.
Guido Fackler claims that Wagner’s music was sometimes used at the Dachau concentration camp in 1933 and 1934 to “reeducate” political prisoners through the beneficial exposure to nationalistic music. There is, however, no documentary evidence supporting the widespread claims that Wagner’s music provided “a soundtrack to the Holocaust,” and was played at concentration camps during wartime.Larry David mocked this urban legend (and the unhealthy Jewish obsession with Wagner) in an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where he is rebuked by a Jewish stranger for whistling a Wagner tune in the street (see here).
The ethno-political motivation that underpins the construction of Wagner as moral pariah is highlighted by the contrasting way that Jewish commentators have reflected on the life and legacy of the Jewish composer Hanns Eisler who declared Wagner to be “a great composer, unfortunately.” A committed Marxist, Eisler began in 1930 a long-standing collaboration with the poet and playwright Bertolt Brecht. With Hitler’s ascent to power, Eisler left Germany and eventually settled in Hollywood, where he was nominated for Oscars for writing the music for Fritz Lang’s film Hangmen Also Die (1942) and None But the Lonely Heart (1944). In 1947 Eisler appeared before the Un-American Activities Committee, and despite the intercession of Albert Einstein, Aaron Copland and Leonard Bernstein, was deported to East Germany in 1948 where he remained for the rest of his life, writing music for the totalitarian state (including its national anthem, and the Comintern anthem). Eisler collaborated with Adorno in 1947 to produce the book Composing for the Films. Instead of reproaching Eisler for his ardent commitment to a regime and an ideology that destroyed millions of lives, Jewish commentators have invariably portrayed him as a victim of the anti-Semitism of the Third Reich, and then of the HUAC hearings and the Hollywood blacklist.
The Jewish-dominated intellectual and media elite will ensure that next year’s Wagner bicentenary is overshadowed by claims that, in celebrating Wagner, the world is cruelly denying the unique suffering of the Jewish people. The bicentenary will provide a platform for advancing the anti-White narrative by using Wagner’s life and legacy as a salutary lesson on the evils of anti-Semitism and European nationalism. The construction of Wagner as an anti-Semitic exemplar and moral pariah (a form of ethnic warfare through the construction of culture) benefits Jews in several ways. First, it ensures that a White genius like Wagner (whose achievement far surpasses that of any Jewish composer) can never become a locus of White racial pride and group cohesion. Secondly, it ensures that Wagner and his works can be always used as a springboard for intensive reflections on the Holocaust, the evils of White racial identity and the moral necessity of state-sponsored multiculturalism and non-White immigration to the West. Only these policies, after all, will ensure that Wagner’s “morally loathsome” intellectual legacy (which amounts to a proposal for a group strategy in opposition to Judaism) can never again find a receptive White audience, by progressively doing away with white people altogether.








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Again, as with part I, a great article. Let’s not lose our love and enthusiasm for Wagner because of Jewish pressure – from the beginnings of time, ugly has always hated beautiful.
The last paragraph starts with “The Jewish-dominated intellectual and media elite will ensure that next year’s Wagner bicentenary is overshadowed by claims that, in celebrating Wagner, the world is cruelly denying the unique suffering of the Jewish people.”
They may dominate the media elite, the judicial elite, and the financial elite, but they do not dominate the intellectual elite, because we are the intellectual elite, and they shall never dominate us.
As a great fan of Wagner (and former German Chancellor) once said of the Jews, “In this world he will forever be master over bastards alone”.
A brilliantly researched article packed with useful information and quotes. I love the title too…Evil Genius. This alone will stimulate me to return to Wagner with an added zest. ☺
I’ll bet Wagner would be welcome in Detroit, since the last synagogue is barely hanging in there. Interesting how the whites moved out, and the jews, having no one to suck the blood out of, left the city, also. Yet, no one blames the jews for Detroit’s downfall, even though they have apparently abandoned it.
After last night’s performance on the Jeff Rense Show, the estimable Gerry Celente will, no doubt about it, be joining Dr. Kevin MacDonald, Dr. David Duke and others on the SPLC & ADL hit list.
Gerry said last night on Rense, call me an anti-Semite, I don’t care, and nobody else cares either if the truth be known. The Jews are going to have to get over this, we are the chosen people stuff etc. etc. LOL.
Gerry also said, half of my employees are Jews, do you think they don’t know how I feel about things? He went on to name some of them, and talk about Israel and its negative political influence in the United States, the wars in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc. etc.
If the interview is available at Rense—its worth a listen.
There are probably some classic Italian operas that would be judged by the Jews to be anti-semitic. I listened to Rense & Celente sing one last night!
Here is another wonderful story how the Isrealites change history thru deceit, even then over 2000 years ago. Nothing has changed. If we don’t know history, it is bound to repeat itself. We whites become the Samaritans.
Hope some are gutsy enough to change that. May truth and the real light of the world stand up. Never, never ever bow to Jews. He paid the price. ***Let us never forget***who they realy are. Yes, deceivers!
I love Wagner, Haendel, Schumann, Tscaikovsky, Haydn, Mozart etc. all the classics. Who are the liers and immitators?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,827144,00.html
“He claimed that Wagner was suffering from “chronic megalomania, paranoia… and moral derangement.””
Aren’t these practically prerequisites for being an artistic genius?
Oh, and Gottfried Wagner– what a weasel. If there’s an afterlife I hope he gets a good ass-kicking from his great-grandfather.
I’m surprised that feige Deutschland hasn’t banned the Bayreuth festival yet. Ah, they’ll get around to it sooner or later. Some time in between giving Israel another nuclear sub and Turkish immigrants more welfare benefits.
To ascribe psychiatric disorders to Wagner because they thought he was anti-semitic is really quite funny. Who can now not see that psychoanaylsis was developed as a way for neurotics from a tradition that stripped them of any tendency they might have for honest introspection to deal with their own craziness? Why this infantile need to always be loved, even when you do things for which you should not just be not loved but despised?
Wagner was a superb social analyst and a courageous intellectual. What is unsettling to me is that profoundly intelligent men have come to the same conclusion regarding the overall effect of Jewish interaction on our European nations and culture, again and again, and here we are yet again 100+ years latter. Wagner is hated not because he expresses hate towards Jews but because he has analytically commented on them; clearly very on the mark. To notice jewish behaviour and to dare to mention it is perceived as an attack worthy act on its own act on its own. The counter attack on him is ad hominem, there is no attempt to explain or defend against his arguments the response is to pathologise, misrepresent. I think that Wagner and the other great men of our race who have dared to notice and then have been subject to ad hominem proves their point.
It’s worth noting that a substantial part of Wagners income came from King Ludwig II of Bavaria. It is extremely important for Whites to develope our own funding streams.
I was brought to Wagner by a friend of mine. At first, when he played some of his music, I thought it quaint. But, I gave it more chances, and realized this composer was a genius. He wrought some of the most sublime melodies ever heard. And his talent was varied. The Hollywood composers of movies having themes about the sea, the oceans power, etc. all modeled their music after Wagners music on this subject. Evil? Who can really define it? As a Christian, I look around and observe EVIL, everywhere. Evil is so common in this world, and in every single culture, that it borders on hypocrisy to single out any one nation, or individual. I would think it not neccessary to even be a Christian to see this. Even humanists should see it.
@fender: fender that’s an excellent point. What great artist in any field considered art or partly art didn’t have those qualities. Bobby Fischer in chess, Frank lloyd Wright in architecture, Pablo Picasso, Herbert Von Karajan, etc.etc. the list is endless.
I first heard Wagner (other than in cartoons) in the mid 60s. It was like no other, his music compells people to listen. The Ring operas are long, and it is difficult to listen to them without frequent breaks, but the music is wonderful – with or without the libretto. Wagner said Beethoven was a Titan struggling with the gods. I suggest he is no less of a Titan.
In 1971/2 I was browsing in a bookstore, and happened to see a book about Wagner. I have no memory of the title or author. It focussed on the “written” Wagner, not the “musical” one. Upon reading a few of Wagner’s statements (translated) about Jews, I couldn’t see anything that was not obvious to anyone who had been paying attention. This essay refines and defines what I thought was obvious.
I recall his comment on Jewish musicians and composers was something to the effect that they were technically good, but lacked true understanding of the depth of music. Mendelssohn was named, even though his parents worked to assimilate, he was baptized a Christian at an early age, and wrote “church” music. I found it curious for Wagner to have called Mendelssohn a Jew, as he had also commented favourably on “The Hebrides”, which is about the only Mendelssohn that I enjoy.
I have never understood the hype about Gershwin, and most of the Jewish Broadway Show type music has a few catchy bits, but is mostly fluff.
In Wagner’s case the new definition of anti-Semitism – an anti Semite is someone that Jews don’t like – is most appropriate. Wagner easily rises above his detractors, who, in typical Jewish fashion, exaggerate their own abilities in an attempt to denigrate others.
The topmost Picture, whats the protest and where and when?
@90404: It’s the 2010 LA protest of the Ring that Mr. Sanderson refers to in his article.
The breadth and depth of this essay are remarkable. I learned more about collective intellectual perfidy in the 15 minutes it took me to read both parts than I have learned about anything in the past 10 years bouncing around the internet.
And I finally have learned what a remarkable man Richard Wagner was and have been convinced to finally listen to what all the fuss is about. It’s unbelievable, but I have never knowingly heard a bar of Wagner’s music that I was made aware of. I suppose that’s because what I’d read about him when I was looking around for musical inspiration wasn’t flattering and that most references to his music made available to me told me he was “overblown” or “noisy”.
Sorry, I used to believe what I read…almost all of it.
Besides, I’ve always been a Mozart kind of guy up until now – with a deep attachment to Beethoven’s piano works when I’m not banging out rock tunes on the piano.
But I’ve ordered the Wagner cd’s that have been recommended by others here on the forum and I’m expectantly looking forward to their delivery.
Last thing: Not only is this two part essay remarkable, so too are many of the comments. Thanks to all. It’s quality thinking like yours that keeps me coming back to TOO.
Nicely done, Mr. Sanderson. Now that Jewish hegemony of the arts is complete, let’s look at what we have: The dissonance and cacophony of modern music, the insulting and dreary visual arts, and a nothing much that’s worth reading. You better like it, ’cause that’s all there is folks! Perhaps one day, People will look back at what they once had. A pity, too late!
Thank you for writing this insightful and excellent article. You understand the implications of our Jew problem and draw fine conclusions.
If you ever want a target, take a look at Jewish day schools in America. They encourage Jewishness and do not integrate themselves with enriching and vibrant negroid Diversity. Nobody is attacking them for their racism. You have an audience and platform- please start the campaign.
It is kind of funny how the culture promotes evil as a good thing with goth and hard rock and vampires and witches and black magic, etc etc, and then there is this “evil genius” lable that is supposed to be a different kind of evil that is really evil ?
Should really evil be seen as really good since evil is now a good thing? In the case of Wagner, I think it should be.
Mixed up world, it is.
Quite possibly ‘Judaism’ will some day be classified as a mental illness. Compulsive lying, belief in a special god who however never seems to deliver, chronic levels of crime, high frequency of genetic defects, periods of frantic raving aganst opponents, unsubstantiated belief in having birth certificates dating back thousands of years .. there’s a syndrome in there just waiting for a catchy name – though probably not a ‘Jewish’ one.
@Rerevisionist: “Quite possibly ‘Judaism’ will some day be classified as a mental illness.”
You may be on to something here, Rerevisionist. But certainly not before we break their stranglehold over the halls of power in the psychology racket.
Ugh. These Jews. How they worm their way into every sphere and twist and turn it to where they are on top. It’s pathological.
Sad to read about the great grandson Gottfried Wagner. I’ll bet he’s making a nice bundle on having that last name by disparaging his great grandfather. One would wonder why he couldn’t find anything more positive in his great grandfather’s work, from a strictly musical perspective for instance, than to pander to the Jews and abetting them to relegate Wagner to a future dustbin.
A very fascinating article and insight into the Jewish mindset. Brenton Sanderson should put all this into his own book.
1880 petition of prominent Germans to their government to do something about the increasing “Jewish problem.”
http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/413_Antisemites%20Petition_114.pdf
On a general level, one should not confuse a man and his work. Wagner’s character was notoriously egocentric, greedy and megalomaniac, and yet he could write unspeakably sublime music.
Before WWI, Wagner was championed a lot by many assimilated Jews in Germany. “Siegfried” was a name often to be found in Jewish families, to the extent it became a joke. This was of course a way to demonstrate their 150% “Germanness”, but the passion was sincere. Later this was seen as an indication of “self-hating Jews”, and indeed, as Theodor Lessing has shown in the 1920s, there was some truth in that.
Wagner’s antisemitic views were not much different than what was common at his time. I think that even if his antisemitic writings would not exist, he would still be hated for his “Aryanism” and “Germanness”, because that is the main reason they can’t stand him.
To be fair, it should be said, that Wagner has been used as a political antisemitic code and symbol from early on, so using him for politics is nothing new.
Wagner CDs ordered and on the way!
@Pierre de Craon:
They have nothing better to do?
Wagner is simply one more graspable perturbance, visible, to be despitefully drained of its nature; and along with the courage, spirit and genious that brought it about, pressed into the completely smoothed scape of jewish totalitarian control.
By the way, I am not sure which is a more monumental undertaking, Wagner’s works or these articles.
@Rerevisionist: While I cannot say that Judaism will one day be classified as a mental illness, it’s obvious that it’s a cult. As with any other cult, members must conform to group behavior or risk ostracism. They are dependent on a charismatic leader for guidance in all things, usually their rabbi. They must not go outside of the group without permission or also risk ostracism. They follow norms that make sense only to themselves, and they view the rest of the world with disdain and condescention.
Apocalypse Now‘s Lt. Colonel Kilgore(!) prior to strafing the village with a great beach-break:
“We use Wagner. It scares the shit out of the slopes. My boys love it!”
Apocalypse Now‘s Lt. Colonel Kilgore(!) prior to strafing the village with a great beach-break:
“We use Wagner. It scares the sh♫t out of the slopes. My boys love it!”
@Felix:
Judaism is most likely best understood as an expression of a race, a people. That is, it’s genes at the heart of it. Just getting rid of Judaism would NOT rid you of Jewish behavior.
@Vlad Writes:
in point of fact the Detroit opera subsists on Jewish financial contributions. I saw an opera there and it was underwritten by big money jewish names.
its one of the funny ironies of the opera world that jews underwrite some of the best european culture while today the average white man is uncultured. its funny to them that is, I find it disappointing and embarassing to be honest.
And while it is true that jews specialize in the back room operations, adminstration and stuff, they have some very good conductors at the highest level and obviously have produced some of the best violinists of the century.
maybe thats because they know how to work their tuchuses off. lets be honest and credit our tribal enemies in this regard.
@Petronius:
well said petronius
also Wagner’s anticapitalist views coincide with his dislike for jewry. this is sometimes lost on Americans who having grown up taking usury finance as a given and a positive can barely imagine the positive social benefits of socialism.
I again have to credit William Pierce’s book catalogue that recommended a Wagner book by Bertrand Russell that really explores the socialist themes in Wagner’s work. Its been what ten years since WLP died and I am still benefitting intellectually from his legacy and that book catalogue was one of the finest.
Marc Weiner’s book, I have read most if it, and it makes a very detailed and elaborate case about Wagner’s antijewishness and how it is programmed into his music. the book might actually be interesting to many of the readers here and I learned some interesting things from it that have helped me appreciate Wagner, such as the notion of the Jew as mimetic, as an imitator, like a monkey or ape. That story I told in my comment to part one, about the author who lectured about his book to the Wagner society, actually that was about Marc Weiner. I couldnt remember his name until I read this part 2.
So although when you listen to Marc Weiner you say, here goes another jewish putz with a hate screed against Wagner, actually the book is really better than that and can be a worthwhile study to help appeciate this topic better. Just have to filter out the jewish animosity in it and focus on the information.
Thanks for this article , really very interesting and why am I not surprised that there is so little discussion ? The goyem need to be clubbed over the head to make any intelligent connections .To me this article is pregnant with reflection .
The working class and farmer of Wagner’s day had their own culture and beliefs .And they believed! The working class and farmers of our day have TV culture , nothing will spring from this soil.
The working class and farmer of Wagner’s day revered their cultural roots .In our day they hardly know what such an idea would mean .
It is interesting to reflect that Jewish haters alway accuse others of being psyciactrically challenge when Jewish acquisitive strategies are questioned .
Another interesting thing I find is that though Jews relentlessly critique European cultures , there traditions and behaviour are placed beyond the pale of critique . Perhaps this is where their delusions of persecution start and from whence their reactionary paranoia sprouts.