World War II and the Walters (Lippmann and Winchell):  Their Implications for Our Time

Around the turn of the century, I wrote a book about white advocate William Pierce (1933–2002)—The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds (1stBooks Library, 2001).  One of the things that stuck with me about that experience is Pierce’s consuming interest in World War II.   I put it this way in the book:

Pierce is engrossed in the World War II period. The most powerful stimulus behind Pierce’s consuming interest in this era is his conviction that it was a monumentally important turning point in the course of Western history [i.e., white history].   The direction cultural and political events of Europe and America have taken over the past half-century were set in motion by that war, Pierce believes.   If white people are to understand their time, he contends, they are going to have to get beyond the official version of what World War II was about and take a hard look at what really happened back then.  He sees himself in a tough battle in getting them to do it, however, because there are powerful forces that make questioning the prevailing interpretation of those years, and any suggestion of an alternative account, a highly unwelcome, and even condemned and punished, undertaking.

A primary focus in Pierce’s work was the effect Jews have on the wellbeing of white people.   Basically, he saw World War II as bad news for whites and, despite the Holocaust (which Pierce was skeptical about), good news for Jews, as it contributed to the formation of Israel, the ascendency and sacred cow status of Jews, and to this country’s obsession with Middle East politics (that is, with the fate of Israel), and to what Pierce saw as the Jewish agenda of egalitarianism, racial integration, and feminism, and the demonization, emasculation, and displacement of whites. It can be argued that indeed these are the policies that have been favored by the mainstream Jewish community and its activist organizations in America.

Pierce went so far as to say that if we thought we had to fight in World War II, which we didn’t, we should have been on the other side, with the Germans taking on the Russians, and to have put our efforts into working out peace terms between Germany and Britain.  Pierce’s claim was that Hitler was an Anglophile and never wanted war with Britain (or the U.S.) in the first place.   If Churchill would have backed off he would have.  Churchill and Roosevelt were the ones that wanted war, not him.  That brought me up short—I’d never thought of that.

Since my contact with Pierce, I’ve thought about World War II now and again, though not systematically or in any great depth and not necessarily through Pierce’s lens; I have my differences with his outlook.  He did get me to look at World War II more critically than I expect I would have, however.  For example, back in 2007, I didn’t uncritically accept the premise of Ken Burns’ seven-part PBS documentary on World War II, called “The War,” that it was an absolutely necessary, and good, war — case closed.

This writing is a report on some concerted reading and thought on this topic I’ve done over the last month or so.   I’ll cite some books I’ve read, all but one of them old, and what I’ve made of them with the idea that you may want to check into some of them and work with some of the topics and concerns I identify.  At the end, I’ll invite you to answer two questions in particular.

To begin, and it’s the strongest feeling—it’s visceral, more than just a thought—that’s come out of this month for me:   What a god-awful surreal/bloodbath/horror World War II was!  I’ve started reading a new book at this writing by Victor Davis Hanson, The Second World Wars: How the First Global Conflict Was Fought and Won (Basic Books, 2017).  Hanson writes:

Some sixty million people died in World War II.  On average, twenty-seven thousand people perished on each day between the invasion of Poland (September 1, 1939) and the formal surrender of Japan (September 2, 1945)—bombed, shot, stabbed, blown apart, incinerated, gassed, starved, or infected. The Axis losers killed or starved to death about 80 percent of all those who died during the war.  The Allied victors largely killed Axis soldiers; the defeated Axis, mostly civilians.  More German and Russian soldiers were killed in tanks at Kursk (well over 2,000 tanks lost) than at any other battle of armor in history.  The greatest loss of life of both civilians and soldiers on a single ship (9,400 fatalities) occurred when a Soviet submarine sank the German troop transport Wilhelm Gustloff in the Baltic Sea in January 1945.  The costliest land battle in history took place at Stalingrad; Leningrad was civilization’s most lethal siege.  The death machinery of the Holocaust made past mass murdering from Attila to Tamerlane to the Aztecs seem like child’s play. The deadliest single day in military history occurred in World War II during the March 10, 1945, firebombing of Tokyo, when a hundred thousand people, perhaps many more, lost their lives. The only atomic bombs ever dropped in war immediately killed more than a hundred thousand people at Hiroshima and Nagasaki together, most of them civilians, while tens of thousands more ultimately died and were maimed from radiation exposure.  World War II exhausted superlatives.  Its carnage seemed to reinvent ideas of war altogether.

The challenge is to come to grips with these realities.  Sixty million deaths, 27,000 a day, 100,000 in a night.  Human beings did this to each other?  White people, including Americans, did this to one another in Europe?   This is madness.   Who thought this was a good idea?

I picked up in school — and everywhere else, really — that everybody bought into this war back then.  Not so.  Writing the Pierce book, I learned about large-scale organized opposition to the impending war by right-wing women who identified themselves as mothers — history books hadn’t told me about them. In the book, I quoted one of the movement’s leaders, Lyrl Clark Van Hyning:

Those boys who will be forced to throw their young flesh against that impregnable wall of steel are the same babies mothers cherished and comforted and brought to manhood.  Mother’s kiss healed all hurts of childhood.  But on invasion day no kiss can heal the terrible hurts and mother won’t be there.   Mothers have betrayed their sons to the butchers.

For background, see Glen Jeansonne, Women of the Far Right:  The Mother’s Movement and World War II (University of Chicago Press, 1996).

One individual who tried to keep the U.S. out of World War II was Charles Lindbergh.  Lindbergh was a great American hero for having been the first person, in 1927, to fly solo across the Atlantic.  Arguably, the two most prominent Americans at that time were President Franklin Roosevelt and Charles Lindbergh.  Lindbergh’s radio talks would reach upwards of half of the adult population in the country.  There was talk of him running for president.  I checked a book out of the library about Lindbergh’s non-interventionist activity by Wayne Cole published back in 1974, Charles Lindbergh and The Battle Against American Intervention in World War II (Houghton Mifflin) and found it very informative.

Lindbergh was the leading figure in the America First Committee, which in the late 1930s and early ‘40s sought to keep the U.S. out of the European war that began on September 1, 1939.  On September 11, 1941 in a speech in Des Moines, Iowa, Lindbergh listed three groups as the most important in pressing the United States to enter the war: the British, the Roosevelt administration, and the Jews.   Of the Jews, Lindbergh said:

It is not difficult to understand why Jewish people desire the overthrow of Nazi Germany.  The persecution they suffered in Germany would be sufficient to make bitter enemies of any race.  No person with a sense of the dignity of mankind can condone the persecution of the Jewish race in Germany.  But no person of honesty and vision can look at their pro-war policy here today without seeing the dangers involved in such a policy, both for us and for them.

Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way for they will be among the first to feel its consequences.   Tolerance is a virtue that depends on peace and strength.  History shows that it cannot survive war and devastations.  A few farsighted Jewish people realize this and stand opposed to intervention.  But the majority still do not.   Their greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government.

I’m not attacking either the Jewish or British people.  Both races I admire.  But I am saying that leaders of both the British and Jewish races, for reasons which are understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war.   We cannot blame them for looking out for what they believe to be their own interests, but we must look out for ours.  We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples to lead our country to destruction.

Biographer Cole reports that those three paragraphs constitute Lindbergh’s only public reference to Jews, and that they reflect his thoughts as expressed in his journals and private communications.  It’s a matter of interpretation to be sure, but as I see it, while Lindbergh’s comments are critical of Jews and reflect an us-them perspective with regard to Jews, they don’t demonstrate the kind of unhinged animus I associate with anti-Semitism; they don’t rise to “ism” status.  More, in his mind he was trying to help Jews (his warning that if there is war, “they will be among the first to feel its consequences”).  Plus, according to Cole, American Jews were in fact actively promoting U.S. entry into the war

Nevertheless, after Lindbergh spoke those words in Des Moines, the roof caved in on him.  He was denounced as an anti-Semite, the America First Committee was called upon to repudiate him, and there were calls for a Congressional investigation of him.  The Texas legislature adopted a resolution informing Lindbergh he was not welcome to speak in that state.  Vandals broke windows in the Manhattan offices of America First, and security was greatly increased at Lindbergh’s later (and few) public appearances in response to threats against his safety.  That was the end of Lindbergh.

If Americans ultimately weren’t listening to Lindbergh back then, who were they listening to?   Two people are worthy of special mention.  The New Yorker magazine critic and commentator Alexander Woollcott writing in 1933 predicted that historians would someday label that era “the Age of the Two Walters, Lippmann and Winchell.”

Walter Lippmann and Walter Winchell, both Jewish, were nationally known journalists.   In the past couple of weeks, I’ve read two excellent biographies of the two men: Walter Lippmann and the American Century by Ronald Steel (Knopf, 1980), and Walter Winchell: Gossip, Power and the Culture of Celebrity by Neal Gabler (Knopf, 1994).  The conclusion I came to after reading the two books is that indeed Lippmann and Winchell were enormously influential in shaping mass opinion and public policy during the World War II era and post-war period.  They both banged the drums—particularly Winchell—for U.S. entry into WWII, and they came out in favor of what’s come to be known as the politically correct side of issues that became salient after the war: black civil rights, racial integration, immigration, and women’s issues.  In my view, you can speak of these two men in the same breath as the Frankfurt School of intellectuals and Freudian psychology in influencing what America has become since the 1930s.  They are not at that level of significance I suppose, or maybe they are, but anyway, they are in the ballpark.

I’ll leave the details of Lippmann and Winchell’s lives, ideas, approaches, and         impact to your investigations.  In this context, just capsule descriptions of the two:

Walter Lippmann (1889–1974), born and raised in New York City, from a cultured upper-middle-class German-Jewish background, private school and Harvard education, philosophy major at Harvard, studied with George Santayana, erudite, on a first name basis with heads of state worldwide, the type to receive honorary degrees, commencement speaker par excellence.  Lippmann authored a number of best-selling books on public policy and, for much of his working life, wrote a widely syndicated and much discussed column for the New York Herald Tribune newspaper.

Biographer Steel describes Lippmann:

For nearly forty years, his syndicated column appeared in the leading newspapers of the United States and throughout the world.  When he went into semi-retirement in 1967 it was as though an institution had suddenly ceased to exist.  Three generations had been led through the maze of political affairs by Walter Lippmann. Readers turned to Lippmann, not for solutions, but for dispassionate analysis. [Well, he proposed solutions.] He had a marvelous ability for simplifying the complex.  His extraordinary success was due to two qualities, a mind that could plunge through the miasma of contention to grasp the essence of a situation, and a superbly lucid literary style.  He had an intellect of a sort that is rarely attracted to journalism.

Lippmann was personally a cold fish.  One telling anecdote from the Steel biography:  After several decades of marriage, Lippmann decided to divorce his wife.  From that moment on, he never spoke another word to her, not one.  He phoned her father, his father-in-law, and asked him to inform his daughter that her marriage had ended.  From then on, it was lawyers.  The point here, Lippmann was not of the sort to lose sleep worrying about snuffing out the lives of twenty-year-old Iowa farm boys in order to keep German-speaking Sudetenland part of Czechoslovakia.

Walter Winchell (1897–1972) was also from New York City, but contrasted starkly from Lippmann: money scarce growing up, descended from the more raucous Eastern European Jewish stock, sixth grade dropout, down to earth manner, former vaudeville song and dance man.  Biographer Gabler:

By the time of Walter Winchell’s death, a friend admitted that trying to explain him to a generation unfamiliar with him “would be like trying to explain Napoleon to the second French generation after the Napoleonic wars.”  For more than four decades Walter Winchell was an American institution, and arguably one of the principal architects of the culture.  By one estimate, fifty million Americans—out of an adult population of roughly seventy-five million—either listened to his weekly radio broadcast or read his daily column, which, at its height in the late thirties and forties, was syndicated in more than two thousand newspapers; it was, according to one observer, the “largest continuous audience ever possessed by a man who was neither a politician nor divine.”  Winchell helped inaugurate a new mass culture of celebrity—centered in New York and Hollywood and Washington, fixated on personalities, promulgated by the media, predicated on publicity, dedicated to the ephemeral and grounded in the principle that notoriety confers power.   Few lives are more instructive of the forces that shaped mass culture in America than Walter Winchell’s.

Winchell wrote this about himself:

I’m not a fighter, I’m a “waiter.”  I wait until I can catch an ingrate with his fly open, and then I take a picture of it.  When some heel does me dirt I return the compliment some day.  In the paper, on the air, or with a bottle of ketchup on the skull.

Consider this an invitation to check into the two Walters, Winchell and Lippmann.  The Steel and Gabler biographies would be good places to start.

A lot of questions come out of what I’ve just discussed, but a couple in particular to think about:

The first, The Occidental Observer is devoted to an examination of “White Identity, Interests, and Culture.”  A thought experiment: If the United States had done a Switzerland and successfully managed to stay out of World War II — no war in Europe or the Pacific — how, if at all, would present day white identity, interests, and culture in this country be different from what they are?   William Pierce thought that World War II had a big, and negative, effect on whites.   Was he right? Or was he wrong?

And the second, referenced by the successes Lippmann and Winchell had in influencing a mass audience, what are the best strategies for communicating with the general public?  It’s one thing to get a message across to a niche audience, but how do you do it with a mass audience?   And to particularize this question, in 2017 what’s the best way to get a white message — the kind of thing you might read in TOO, let’s say — across to average, everyday white Americans?  Picture them: in living rooms and back yards and playing fields and malls and workplaces and schools going about their lives. I think it fair to say that the vast majority of them don’t know that the ideas and proposals contained in this and similar publications even exist.  And those who do encounter these ideas and proposals dismiss both them and those who espouse them as being beyond the pale.

Is there anything that can be done about this?   Am I painting too bleak a picture?  What do you think?  What can we do?  What should we do?   What are you going to do?

Robert S. Griffin is Professor Emeritus at the University of Vermont.  His website is  He invites you to read his recent book manuscript, From Old to Elderly: A Decade of Thoughts, available on his site free as a PDF.


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  1. pterodactyl
    pterodactyl says:

    “The challenge is to come to grips with these realities. Sixty million deaths, 27,000 a day, 100,000 in a night. Human beings did this to each other? White people, including Americans, did this to one another in Europe? This is madness. Who thought this was a good idea?”

    And after all this the people needed to convince themselves that it was all worthwhile, and they were on the side of moral right, and what made it an extra hard sell (to themselves) is that they were actually on Stalin’s side. But despite it seeming a hard sell (that the war was valid and right) the people were eager to convince themselves that they had done the right thing, so they readily accepted all the wartime propaganda version of events, including the H.

    But future generations will not be so desperate to try and pretend it was all worthwhile, as they have less of a personal stake as they become more distant in time from their grandparents and other relatives who did have a personal stake – this stake being either they joined in the war themselves or they egged the others on, or condemned those who didn’t want to sign up, and therefore share responsibility for the devastation of the War.

    Perhaps another reason the ‘virtue of the War’ narrative is still going strong (in addition to the above effect about vested interest of participants that is fading away naturally with time) is that it is a war that the Left approve of, as the villains were whites who thought they should look after the interest of whites – this is the ultimate horror scenario for those whites who are genetically disposed to hate whites due to their lefty genes. As the left are in control of the MSM and education narrative, they have maintained the notion that the war was justified and ‘good versus evil’ as it helps them to demonise whites. In fact the next group of whites to be demonised after the Germans were whites in Rhodesia, then S.Africa, and demonised by other whites, lefty whites. The whites in S.Africa are still regarded as the villains by those who set the narrative, even as they are being genocided by racist blacks.

    So the reason we have the ‘virtuous and worth it War’ narrative still after all this time is that it is a narrative that the left (and the H industry) want to be maintained, and as the left are in charge of the culture, this is the cultural narrative that we have.

    Imagine if the USA stayed out of the War and Britain had sided with Germany against Stalin and had won and communism had collapsed in 1940s – the War today would not be presented via the MSM and education as the Allies being the goodies then. It would be depicted as the opposite.

    • Charles Frey
      Charles Frey says:

      Britain, through that lying, drunk, financially and politically indebted Churchill did side with Germany; after he realized that they ” had butchered the wrong pig “.

      That well known flip-flopper between his analysis and list in the 1920 London paper, as to who has been responsible for all the upheaval in the world, and “… who have now grasped the Russian people by its hair “, and his declaration of war on Germany, in non-obligatory concert with France, tried to belatedly save Europe with his deluded OPERATION UNTHINKABLE ;

      Royal and US Air Forces were strategically to bomb Moscow and its armament centers behind the Urals. Tactically they would destroy their supply lines at the front.

      The Royal Navy would operate on the left flank in the Baltic.

      On land Western Allied forces [ US, GB and Canada ] were scheduled to attack near Dresden —– ALONG WITH 100,000 EX WEHRMACHT TROOPS —– held at the ready by Patton.

      The US demurred, citing continued priorities in the Pacific. His own IMPERIAL General Staff with their oversized mustaches and elite vacuous eyes, characterized the chances of success as ‘ fanciful ‘, especially due to the disparity in infantry strength [ 1: 3.5 ], as well as in artillery and tanks.

      Was that it, or did his several political {{{ advisors }}} above the Army pay scale have the decisive NO vote, so as not to undo their recent achievement ?

      Already during the second Morocco Crisis [ 1911 ? ] the British decided that the war on the horizon would be for commercial considerations/necessities.

      We are doing {{{ them }}} an injustice by merely sweeping both WW ‘s in front of their door. If consistent, we need to add the Boer War as well.

      Those two London {{{Beit}}} brothers, immigrees from Germany were colluding with the ‘ intellectuals ‘ at Balliol College, Oxford; who would lend the ideological, ” western values, democracy garbage ” to assuage the cannon fodder from all over the Empire.

      Berlin, Ontario, after 1916 was renamed Kitchener, after ” LORD ” Kitchener, the inventor of the first concentration camps for the Boers.

      He can also be said to be the producer of the off-Broadway production of the later Holodomor.

      His Redcoats, even from Kitchener, Ontario and Winnipeg, placed circa 22,000 Boer women and children in these concentration camps, including their employees, then burned their buildings, killed their cattle, burned their fields and crops. In other words Genocide. Between 30 to 40 percent succumbed to the ill-treatment.

      All to isolate their men from their families; unable to mend their uniforms, supply them with food or warmth.

      One English woman, deprived of her local vote since she was not a citizen, complained to London, which ordered the famous, false-flag Jameson Raid to raise the war fever.

      The British fabricated a movie in a studio outside of London, showing German and Dutch Boers pulling babies from incubators. Identical to that lying fecal matter who stated on US TV that, as a nurse, she witnessed Iraqi troops commit these crimes when Sadam invaded Kuwait. Without ever mentioning the fact that she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the United States, [ and as such would never have washed her own dishes, much less a bed-pan ].

      The British movie goers drank in their propaganda garbage, while watching Pathe Newsreal before the feature film. Was it one or two who asked themselves why these Boer soldiers, living primitively off the land, where running around with movie cameras and allowing these self-incriminating films to fall into British hands. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it ?

      It necessitates very little reverse-engineering of that history when one considers who owned the GOLD and DIAMOND mines initially and who ended up with them and whose blood was spilled; again on both sides.

      I move that we add the Boer Wars to their side of the balance sheet and henceforth speak of it, in addition to the other two.

      Additionally I move, that those who deem themselves experts on the WW II era google OPERATION UNTHINKABLE.

      Germany surrendered on May 8, 1945, OPERATION UNTHINKABLE was scheduled to fire its first shot on July 1, 1945: you do the math – its planning would have had to been done BEFORE the last ” Kraut ” killed his last ” Ivan ” , or vice versa.

      [ Little wonder that Churchill was the world’s greatest geopolitical thinker, since his court-appointed Wine and Spirits Merchant had to threaten a suit to have him settle his enormous outstanding account ].

      • Charles Frey
        Charles Frey says:

        “… court-appointed Wine etc. ” , signifying any purveyor to the Royal Court: possessing a Royal Warrant, as in the German Hoflieferant or indeed Hofjude.

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