Jewish Paranoia: Scientific and Cultural Perspectives


“The term ‘Esau hates Jacob’ symbolizes the world which Jews experience. It is deeply embedded in the Jewish folk tradition.”
    C.S. Liebman, “Myth, Tradition and Values in Israeli Society,” 1978.[1]

“Increased rates of paranoid states are commonly found among migratory and immigrant groups.”
    Maizel et al., “Folie à trois among two Soviet-Jewish immigrant families to Israel,” 1990.[2]

It surely isn’t coincidental that the two best twentieth-century novels on the theme of paranoia were written by members of the Jewish race. Although differing slightly in approach and direction, Marcel Proust’s In Search of Lost Time (1913–1927), with its focus on jealous paranoia, and Franz Kafka’s The Trial (1925), which emphasizes conspiracy-based paranoia, are probably unsurpassed in their dissection and communication of paranoid emotions and associated mental and social disturbance.[3] Both authors, with their schizoid and labyrinthine visions, came to mind recently when I read that Jewish financiers and academics are developing artificial intelligence in order to ceaselessly scan the internet for “hidden antisemitism on social media.” Britain’s The Times reports:

Workers on the Decoding Antisemitism project will write algorithms to find codes such as “Juice” instead of “Jews” and look for anti-Jewish narratives, conspiracy theories and stereotypes that are harder to detect automatically than explicit racism. They hope to develop a tool that can scan websites and social media profiles for implicit antisemitism.

This strange venture is being staffed by a motley of Jews and grant-hungry Europeans, eager for some of the several million Euro donated by the German Jewish Alfred Landecker Foundation, an organisation that is as tragic-comic as its new pet project. The Alfred Landecker Foundation was established recently by the Reimann family, German billionaires who own controlling stakes in Krispy Kreme, Dr Pepper and other major players in the nutrition-devoid, diabetes-inducing goy-feed market. The Reimann’s will initially support the Foundation with an astonishing 250 million euros over the next ten years. The family is not Jewish, but, in what appears to be a new “reparations” tactic to fill the coffers of Jewish “defense bodies,” were subjected last year to what amounts to an international public relations blackmail by several influential Jewish journalists and organisations who highlighted the family’s National Socialist past. Devra First, for example, a Jewish journalist at the Boston Globe, led one of the early attacks with an article titled, “I found out Nazi money is behind my favorite coffee. Should I keep drinking it?”

The New York Times later reported that the campaign resulted in Reimann employees (there are over 180,000 globally) reporting that customers accused them of “working for Nazis.” A boycott campaign then followed, after which the family meekly announced that it was “relieved to have the truth come out” and that it would make large donations on behalf of Jews. In the end, the Reimann’s renamed their family foundation after a Jew “murdered by the Nazis,” handed over control of the Foundation to an “independent” (mostly Jewish) council, and promised it would henceforth be dedicated to fund projects that “honor the memory of the victims of the Holocaust and of Nazi terror.”

The international organized Jewish community thus found itself, after relatively little effort, with a ready-made, lavishly funded vehicle for their interests. A new website for the Alfred Landecker Foundation says its mission is to educate “about the Holocaust and the terrible price that is paid when intolerance and bigotry reign.” This extremely wealthy foundation now professes that it will employ its considerable financial arsenal against “populism and nationalism.” The Decoding Antisemitism project is merely the latest surreal twist in this rather sordid tale.

What exactly “Decoding Antisemitism” will, or can, achieve remains to be seen. The most that one can say at present is that it’s part of a larger problem. As Gilad Atzmon recently asked, “What is it that causes some to constantly measure how much they are hated?” Jews now not only constantly measure how much they are hated, in the form of the usual surveys and so on, but also dedicate themselves to the innovation of new techniques of measurement. The “Decoding Antisemitism” project is, by any estimation, a form of technologized eavesdropping. And, like most eavesdropping endeavors, it is unlikely to bring much in the way of relief or profit to the eavesdropper. As my mother used to say, “eavesdroppers never hear any good of themselves.” Jews fully expect to be hated, and they devote significant resources to proving it to themselves and others, before declaring that “something” must be done about it. This “something,” aside from pushing for mass migration and censorship, inevitably involves further surveys or social surveillance, and thus the cycle of expectation, confirmation, and renewed determination continues. The key to the cyclical nature of this process is the Jewish expectation of irrational and inexplicable hatred from the outsider. In other words, Jewish paranoia plays a significant role in the seemingly endless provocation of anti-Semitism. Paranoia among Jews is therefore surely worthy of some consideration.

Understanding Jewish Paranoia

Gaining an evidence-based understanding of mental pathology among Jews is surprisingly difficult. Victor Sanua has noted the fact that although “mental illness among Jews has been a subject of interest and controversy for centuries,” the “dearth of studies on the mental illness of Jews is striking when compared to the number of Jewish professionals in the field.”[4] The reluctance of Jewish psychologists and psychiatrists to turn an analytical gaze inwards corresponds with the general pattern of Jewish interpretations of anti-Semitism, which is overwhelmingly portrayed as originating independently of Jews and their behavior. Jews are notable for their strong aversion to considerations of personal or group-level wrongdoing, and the fact that there are few studies of Jewish mental health is also confirmation of some of the findings of those studies that have taken place; namely, that Jews score significantly lower on guilt-associated pathologies, especially those involving self-criticism and suicide.[5] In this area, Jews more closely resemble populations with higher levels of psychopathy, such as those in sub-Saharan Africa and the Indian sub-continent, rather than populations with higher levels of anxiety and conscientiousness like Europeans and East Asians.[6]

Open hostility to the idea that Jews are particularly prone to certain mental illnesses is often conveyed within Jewish academia and psychiatry, something that further stifles discussion of the subject and the gathering of evidence. Sander Gilman, for example, an historian of medicine, has accused Jewish psychiatrists who studied Jews and mental illness of being self-hating Jews and complicit in the advancement of anti-Semitism:

In differentiating himself from the Jew as madman, the Jewish psychiatrist reified his own tenuous position in the power structure of medicine. The doctor and the patient are not to be confused, especially not by the doctor. The myth of the madness of the Jew can serve as a means of exploring how groups react to rhetoric aimed at them from their primary reference group.[7]

Although presented in Marxist terminology, what Gilman is essentially arguing is that Jewish psychiatrists betrayed their racial origins by producing studies that agreed with what Gilman believes to be little more than racist tropes — the idea, current from the 1860s to the present day, that certain mental illnesses are more prevalent among Jews than other populations. The major problem with Gilman’s 1984 study is that it fails to explore even a fraction of the relevant literature, simply making the assertion that the early twentieth-century studies were prejudiced and proceeding from that to a sweeping narrative of internalized anti-Semitism.

This is not to say that certain historical medical beliefs about the tendency of Jews toward some mental illnesses were always rooted in reality. For example, in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century it was commonly believed that Jews were more predisposed to schizophrenia than Europeans, something that scholarship had reversed entirely by the 1930s.[8] (In 2013 a genetic mutation was found that makes Ashkenazi Jews more prone to schizophrenia compared to other Ashkenazi Jews but this does not imply that Ashkenazi Jews are more prone to schizophrenia in general.) Misinterpretation, or poor cultural contextualization of data, has also led to the development of new tropes. For example, much of the scientific literature on an alleged link between Jews and hypochondriasis has been based on army recruitment data, with Jews and Italians noted as much more likely than Irish, British, or German recruits to report apparently non-existent illnesses or to exaggerate pain or incapacity.[9] Hypochondriasis can hardly be considered an appropriate diagnosis in such a context, however, given the well-known, and deeply historical, tendency of some young men to wish to avoid military service through simple malingering. As discussed in Derek Penslar’s Princeton-published Jews and the Military, Jews have a very long tradition of malingering in order to evade serving in the militaries of host nations, including acts of self-mutilation. Thus the link in the psychiatric literature between Jews and hypochondriasis based on army recruitment data is extremely naive.[10]

What does emerge from the existing literature on the mental health of Jews is a rather clear tendency towards forms of manic-depressive psychosis, a tendency toward paranoid siege mentality at the group level, and a generally very poor level of psychological adjustment to living among Whites. Ball and Clare (1990) found that Jews “are prone to suffer from affective disorders,” and added that “the possibility of a genetic contribution to the genesis of these illnesses must be considered.”[11] Halpern’s very early study of Jews in Palestine (1938) also found manic-depressive psychosis and paranoia to among the most marked manifestations of mental pathology among Jews.[12] Cooklin (1983) noted, like Ball and Clare, that there were significant differences in manic-depressive psychosis between Jews and non-Jews, and also made the argument that this difference was most probably genetic in origin.[13] In 1999, Kohn et al. responded to counter-arguments from individuals like Sander Gilman who advanced arguments that there was no scientific basis for the belief that Jews differed from non-Jews in terms of mental health. After employing a historical review and meta-analysis, Kohn et al. demonstrated conclusively that Jews had at least a “20% greater risk for affective disorders than non-Jews.”[14] In the recently-published Anti-Semitism and Psychiatry (2020), Loewenthal and Marcus add that “there is evidence that Ashkenazi Jews are more likely than others to possess genetic variations that may or may not predispose to heritable psychiatric syndromes such as bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.”[15]

Some of the scientific literature also provides greater insight into the tendency of Jews towards conspiracy paranoia. This is certainly relevant because the received wisdom about the nature of anti-Semitism has, since the late 1950s, essentially embodied paranoid Jewish thinking about the conspiratorial nature of out-groups. A particularly interesting aspect of the work of the Frankfurt School is the way this thinking on the part of Jews was reflected back onto a supposedly pathological out-group culture. In fact, as Jay (1980) notes, in such works as Prophets of Deceit and The Authoritarian Personality, the Frankfurt School presented Jews as victims of “paranoid projection.” The work of the Frankfurt School stunned many socialist contemporaries because of the manner in which it abandoned classical Marxist theory in favor of an almost obsessional dedication to psychologizing the out-group:

The generally psychologistic orientation of the work as a whole led some observers to believe that the Frankfurt School had abandoned its Marxist past entirely. Moreover, nowhere in the work was an attempt made to see anti-Semitism in essentially class terms.[16]

The available scientific literature strongly suggests that projection in fact operated inversely in this instance, with maladjusted Jews constructing paranoid narratives about non-Jews, in this case, European Americans. Rinder’s (1963) exploration of psychological adjustment in American populations, for example, found that Jewish “assimilation” only worsened the neuroses and mental health of Jews:

Every Jewish generation group scored lower in adjustment than the matched Gentile group on obtained Rorschach scores. The inner maladjustment of American Jews, on the basis of this evidence, seems to be greater than that of their Gentile peers, and the greater the Americanization, the greater the maladjustment.[17]

Some of this Jewish maladjustment is expressed in what Maizel et al. (1990) describe as “socially shared psychopathology,” with the additional comment that “increased rates of paranoid states are commonly found among migratory and immigrant groups.”[18] Jews have been noted as a unique “middleman minority” population that continues to behave culturally, economically, and politically, as if in a permanent state of transience. This is precisely the fertile context for socially shared psychopathology to develop.

Jews are also strongly ethnocentric, and their behavior in a diaspora condition corresponds closely with what Bar-Tal et al. (1992) found in their study of siege mentality among Israelis.[19] In this study, it was discussed that paranoid siege mentality emerges when “a significant and influential part of the group believes that outsiders have intentions to do wrong to or inflict harm on their group. … the crucial focus of the belief is on the rest of the world or out-groups.[20] This dovetails very well with the fact that Jews score very low on self-criticism or guilt-based emotions, and associated behaviors like suicide. This critical focus on the rest of the world or out-groups also explains the very strong reaction of Jews towards any sign of self-criticism within the group (e.g., accusations of “Jewish self-hatred”), and further explains the extraordinary tendency of Jews to obsessively develop theories psychologizing or pathologizing host populations, even in times of relatively peaceful co-existence, and to engage in endless monitoring of the attitudes of the out-group.

Paranoid siege mentality beliefs have serious behavioral implications, which in turn have very serious repercussions for intergroup relations. Bar-Tal et al. remark that “individuals and groups behave in ways which are consistent with their beliefs. … They may take drastic measures, even out of the range of the accepted norms for the intergroup behaviors, to prevent possible danger and avert the threat.”[21] Such drastic measures are clearly in evidence throughout Jewish history where, in bids to obtain maximum profit or security, Jews have engaged in high-risk aggression towards European masses (e.g., requesting harsh punishments from monarchs, assisting enemy armies). These measures have only ever been successful for as long as Jews could maintain strong links with a powerful elite. In times of weakened reigns or transitional stages at the top level, Jewish fortunes have suffered significantly, in the form of outbursts of violence or expulsions.

That paranoid siege mentality is a driver of the cyclical nature of anti-Semitism is more or less suggested implicitly within the scientific literature. Sanua (1992), for example, found the psychological profile of Jewish political radicals in the United States to be “paranoid-masochistic” with “the expectation of victimization seen as justifying aggressive acting out.”[22] The trend was also noted even among some Jewish psychoanalysts, with Stanley Rothman and Howard Stein suggesting that Jews, especially aggressive Left-leaning Jews, were beholden to group fantasies and had “developed a shared repetition compulsion rooted in the need for punishment.”[23]

Especially interesting in light of the recent move by Jewish groups to create software in order to monitor even the most nuanced of discussions of Jews on social media, Bar-Tal et al. remark that a key feature of paranoid siege mentality is the development of “special sensitivity to cues indicating negative intentions emitted by out-groups.”[24] There is probably no ethnic group on earth that has so finely developed its sensitivity to cues indicating negative intentions omitted by out-groups than the Jews.

Equally important to note is that this phenomenon is not indicative of low self-esteem on the part of the paranoid group. In fact, the trend again is towards low self-criticism and psychopathic levels of high self-esteem. Bar-Tal et al. explain:

Not surprisingly, Siege Mentality is related to Ethnocentrism. The belief that the world has negative intentions towards the group indicates its evil, malice, and aggressiveness. In this context, the group not only feels victimized and self-righteous, but also superior to the out-group.

Conclusion

One of the remarkable aspects of anti-Semitism is its repetitive nature. The surveyed literature offers some valuable insight into the etiological factors of anti-Semitism, especially the ways in which supremacist Jewish paranoia about anti-Semitism justifies, and operates in tandem with, aggressive behaviors against out-groups. This aggression then provokes real anti-Semitism, which consequently offers further impetus for the “shared repetition compulsion” to continue. Jews unquestionably differ from non-Jews in terms of their psychological profile, a fact that is increasingly being attributed to genetic differences, and they appear to remain significantly psychologically maladjusted to life among Whites. The continued dedication of “significant and influential” Jews to the close monitoring of out-groups, in the form of surveys, software, and government surveillance, and the intense involvement of Jewish groups in restricting the freedoms of host populations, suggests that Jewish paranoid siege mentality is in fact worsening, even entering the phase of “drastic measures” in an effort to obtain what is perhaps an unobtainable level of psychological comfort and security. Certainly these measures go “out of the range of the accepted norms for the intergroup behaviors.” A reasonable prediction, based on historical precedent, would therefore be that the further acceleration of this trend, and the ongoing neglect of the real causes of anti-Semitism, would lead to genuine intergroup conflict and the continuance of the cycle of Jewish history.


[1] C.S. Liebman, “Myth, Tradition and Values in Israeli Society,” Midstream, 24 (1978), 44-53, 44.

[2] Maizel S, Knobler HY, Herbstein R., “Folie à trois among two Soviet-Jewish immigrant families to Israel,” British Journal of Psychiatry (1990), 157, 290-292, 290.

[3] Proust’s father was apparently native French. His Jewish mother, Jeanne Clémence Weil, was a descendant of wealthy Alsatian moneylenders. Harold Bloom comments that Proust’s “love for his Gentile father was real, but his passion for his Jewish mother was overwhelming.” See H. Bloom, The Western Canon: The Books and School of the Ages (New York: Riverhead, 1995), 369. Proust’s Jewish identity was complex but strong. See I, Ebert, “Le Premier Dreyfusard”: Jewishness in Marcel Proust,” The French Review, 67(2), 196-217; J. Hyde, “Proust, His Jews and His Jewishness” The French Review, 39(6), 837-848; and J. Brami, “Strange Jewishness: Essay on the Treatment of Jewish Identity in Proust,” in A. Benhaim (ed), The Strange M. Proust (New York: Routledge, 2009).

[4] Sanua, Victor D. “Mental Illness and Other Forms of Psychiatric Deviance Among Contemporary Jewry 1.” Transcultural Psychiatric Research Review 29, no. 3 (January 1992): 197–233., 197-8.

[5] Ball, R. A., and Clare, A. W. “Symptoms and Social Adjustment in Jewish Depressives.” British Journal of Psychiatry 156, no. 3 (1990): 379–83, 379, 381-2. Israel has historically had a very low suicide rate, in contrast to nations like Japan which have a culture high in self-criticism. Sanua (1992) found that Jews in Britain had a suicide rate roughly half that of British non-Jews.

[6] Lynn, R. “Racial and ethnic differences in psychopathic personality,” Personality and Individual Differences, Volume 32, Issue 2, 2002, 273-316.

[7] Gilman, Sander L. “Jews and mental illness: Medical metaphors, anti‐semitism, and the Jewish response.” Journal of the History of the Behavioral Sciences 20, no. 2 (1984): 150-159, 158.

[8] See, Halpern, Lipman. “Some data of the psychic morbidity of Jews and Arabs in Palestine.” American Journal of Psychiatry 94, no. 5 (1938): 1215-1222, 1218. A survey of the literature found that international rates of schizophrenia (from highest) were predominantly northern European: Ireland, Norway, Scotland, Switzerland, England, Sweden, NY State, Denmark, Germany, Russia, and Finland.

[9] See, Ball, R. A., and A. W. Clare. “Symptoms and Social Adjustment in Jewish Depressives.” British Journal of Psychiatry 156, no. 3 (1990): 379–83, 381.

[10] Penslar, Derek J. Jews and the Military: A History. Princeton University Press, 2015. Malingering and service-avoidance are discussed on pages 11, 27, 29, 30, 31, 38, 45, 46, 48, 256.

[11] Ball, R. A., and A. W. Clare. “Symptoms and Social Adjustment in Jewish Depressives.” British Journal of Psychiatry 156, no. 3 (1990): 379–83, 379, 381-2.

[12] Halpern, Lipman. “Some data of the psychic morbidity of Jews and Arabs in Palestine.” American Journal of Psychiatry 94, no. 5 (1938): 1215-1222, 1220.

[13] Cooklin, Ruth S., A. Ravindran, and M. W. P. Carney. “The Patterns of Mental Disorder in Jewish and Non-Jewish Admissions to a District General Hospital Psychiatric Unit: Is Manic-Depressive Illness a Typically Jewish Disorder?” Psychological Medicine 13, no. 1 (1983): 209–12, 211.

[14] Kohn, Robert, Itzhak Levav, Stacey Zolondek, and Michaele Richter. “Affective Disorders among Jews: A Historical Review and Meta-Analysis.” History of Psychiatry 10, no. 38 (June 1999): 245–67, 261.

[15] Loewenthal, K. M. & Marcus, B, “Jewish Stereotypes in Psychiatric Diagnosis and Treatment,” in Moffic, H.S. (ed) Anti-Semitism and Psychiatry: Recognition, Prevention, and Interventions (New York: Springer, 2020), 186.

[16] Jay, Martin. “The Jews and the Frankfurt School: Critical Theory’s Analysis of Anti-Semitism.” New German Critique, no. 19 (1980): 137-49, 141-2.

[17] Rinder, I D. “Mental health of American Jewish urbanites: a review of literature and predictions.” The International journal of social psychiatry vol. 9 (1963): 104-9, 108.

[18] Maizel S, Knobler HY, Herbstein R., “Folie à trois among two Soviet-Jewish immigrant families to Israel,” British Journal of Psychiatry (1990), 157, 290-292, 290.

[19] Bar-Tal, Daniel, and Dikla Antebi. “Beliefs about Negative Intentions of the World: A Study of the Israeli Siege Mentality.” Political Psychology 13, no. 4 (1992): 633-45.

[20] Ibid, 634.

[21] Ibid, 643.

[22] Sanua, Victor D. “Mental Illness and Other Forms of Psychiatric Deviance Among Contemporary Jewry 1.” Transcultural Psychiatric Research Review 29, no. 3 (January 1992): 197–233., 212.

[23] See, Stein, Howard F. “Judaism and the group-fantasy of martyrdom: The psychodynamic paradox of survival through persecution.” The Journal of Psychohistory 6, no. 2 (1978): 151; Rothman, Stanley (1978). “Group Fantasies and Jewish Radicalism.”Journal of Psychohistory 6:211–240.

[24] Bar-Tal, Daniel, and Dikla Antebi. “Beliefs about Negative Intentions of the World: A Study of the Israeli Siege Mentality.” Political Psychology 13, no. 4 (1992): 633-45, 642.

51 replies
  1. 9593
    9593 says:

    As a boy in Catholic school, I was taught that we children in the third grade were members of the “Church Militant”. We would finally join the “Church Triumphant” in heaven, if we followed the rules.

    But of course, the perception of being embattled against (mostly Protestant) enemies enhances solidarity and isolation, promotes marrying within the sect, and probably increases the pledge amounts. For me, it wore off. Judaism is locked into dependence upon eternal enemies to maintain the precepts of their scriptures, as can be read plainly, without the commentary.

    I attended a meeting of the local Zionists, to talk about antisemitism on a local college campus – arguably nonexistent, except for supporters of Palestinian human rights. In the introduction of the out-of-town speaker from the Amcha Initiative, a local, highly revered rabbi reminded the audience that: “Esau hates Jacob”. Unaware was he that an informed Goy was in the audience.

    • Coll Doll
      Coll Doll says:

      Thank you. I can’t imagine how that factoid and “respectable” link wasn’t spotted by Andrew Joyce.

  2. Canadian Goy
    Canadian Goy says:

    I am starting to think that paranoia can be adaptive and it is only at the extreme that it becomes pathalogical.

    I am personally prone to paranoia. For me it is just an innate suspiciousness of the motives of other people. I think that was part of what allowed me to delve deeply into taboo subjects such as the JQ.

    If Jews are paranoid at a pathological level, most Europeans are so lacking in paranoia that they can’t easily identify threats or deception. The reason that Jews run circles around us is because we are typically trusting by nature.

    So, Europeans by being too trusting can get themselves into trouble by getting conned by hostile outgroups, Jews can be too far the other direction in terms of being too paranoid. Thus Europeans believe everyone is their friend, even when they are grooming their kids, throwing acid in their faces, talking about abolishing whiteness, and inviting hostile foreigners into their homelands. Jews on the other end of the spectrum use AI to sniff out interner discussion of Juice when there is no evidence that they are talking about food.

    I think the healthy balance is somewhere in the middle. Europeans need to be more suspicious of what people tell them, and Jews would be wise to tone down their paranoid fantasies a bit.

    That said, Jews are winning and they have survived for thousands of years in hostile environments. Maybe paranoia is necessary for long term group survival.

    • moneytalks
      moneytalks says:

      ” The reason that Jews run circles around us is because we are typically trusting by nature.”

      “run circles around us” is metaphorical expression which means
      [ have us corralled ] so the most likely major reason for that is because __

      Christianity is a sheeple-oriented religion of self-enslavement to
      the chosenhite juewmasters .

    • Pierre de Craon
      Pierre de Craon says:

      Thanks for the link, Karen. I’m in your debt. Ryssen impresses immensely with his knowledge and sheer rationality in the thirty-seven-minute interview listed first. No wonder he is considered a threat!

      Of his books, I found only two available in English: “The Jewish Mafia” and “History of Anti-Semitism.” The prices for the few available copies listed on BookFinder are astronomical. Quelle surprise!

      • Pierre de Craon
        Pierre de Craon says:

        One thing Ryssen said that I found particularly striking was his suggestion, with reference to an idea he attributed to Cyrano de Bergerac (unclear whether he meant the Rostand play or the historical figure), that “where imagination is strong, memory is weak.”

        The idea that imagination and memory are in zero-sum balance has never occurred to me; indeed, I would be interested to know whether it is familiar or unfamiliar to others. I wouldn’t yet venture to declare the notion either true or false, but as Ryssen applies it to the Jewish inability or refusal (take your pick) to record history in an unfalsified, undistorted form, it is as intellectually, psychologically, and morally provocative an idea as any I’ve encountered regarding the Jews’ modus operandi in a decade.

  3. ariadna
    ariadna says:

    In this:
    “There is probably no ethnic group on earth that has so finely developed its sensitivity to cues indicating negative intentions omitted by out-groups than the Jews.”
    Correction needed: “emitted” not “omitted”

  4. ronehjr
    ronehjr says:

    The good news for these jews looking for coded anti-semitism is the more they engage in this kind of behavior the less anti-semitism will be coded.

  5. Robert Henderson
    Robert Henderson says:

    The fact that any member of a minority will have a tendency towards paranoia is not to be wondered at because anyone in a group which is not natural to them will feel insecure. All it demonstrates is the general truth that homogeneous societies are more likely to be stable than heterogeneous society.

  6. Junghans
    Junghans says:

    An interesting deep dive into the paranoid Jewish psyche by Mr. Joyce. Congratulations again! As I recall, G.L. Rockwell also had some rather astute things to say about Jewish schizophrenia, paranoia and psychological projection way back in the 1960’s.
    The subject has been noted by many historical observers of the JQ over the years, of course. Paranoia is clearly a paradamadic hallmark of Jewry.

  7. Thomas Faber
    Thomas Faber says:

    An interesting and well-written article.

    On balance, though, I feel compelled to raise two points. The first, that I think we should be wary in ascribing differences in mental health to genetics, without giving the large cultural differences that exist precedence in our analysis.

    Secondly, I feel that a more nuanced view of “The Jews” is lacking. I do not believe that one can get a true grasp of the situation without realizing that there are intense in-group differences among jews. More specifically, I am convinced that there is a very powerful minority that is in practice using “the masses” of the jews for their own purposes, and have done so historically.

    Which, I would argue, is why the Protocols of Zions Elders say that: “we shall control our lesser brethren by anti-semitism”,

    and why Theodor Herzl, “The Father of Zionism”, wrote in his diary that: “I wanted in particular to contrast the suffering, despised, and decent mass of poor Jews with the rich ones. The latter experience nothing of anti-Semitism which they are actually and mainly responsible for”.

    I believe that if there is to be any hope of bettering the current situation in a just and lasting way, that this distinction must be explicitly made. Otherwise, I fear that the tensions will only rise, and result in tragedy. May it be avoided!

    • Chris M
      Chris M says:

      In other words, if there’s a problem it’ll be White people’s fault.

      Personally, I wouldn’t make a comment like yours without properly identifying myself as either White or Jewish. Since we don’t know, at least two answers are possible.

      1. That you’re Jewish and don’t want to be lumped in with and judged like those bad Jews who lead today’s Hostile Elite.

      2. You’re White and suffering from Pathological Altruism. You’re willing to look past the enormous destruction of the Jewish Hostile Elite so as to make sure nothing bad happens to the good ones.

      You also call for a “nuanced view” of “The Jews” (why the quotes?), but no such consideration is extended toward Whites.

      You end your comment saying “I believe that if there is to be any hope of bettering the current situation in a just and lasting way, that this distinction must be explicitly made.”

      If you’re not Jewish, you might as well be. Which is exactly what is said about those Whites suffering from Pathological Altruism.

      If you wanted the situation to improve why wouldn’t you want the good Jews to publicly denounce the bad ones while making an alliance with the host population that the bad Jews have targeted for destruction?

      And since the good Jews are not denouncing the bad ones, they’re bad too. So why are you defending them? And, given the mission statement of this site, why aren’t you defending Whites?

      Also, though there are some good Jews, they are so small in number that it doesn’t make sense for Whites to break their backs bending over backwards to get them on their side (the way the RNC ingratiates itself with black and Latino voters).

      In fact, if they were good Jews there’d be no need for Whites to bend over backwards. Again, it makes no sense.

      But it does make sense for Whites to unite and defend themselves. Obviously. It’s called self-preservation, which is something the Hostile Elite Jews are declaring an act of terrorism if acted out by Whites (witness their reation to Kyle Rittenhouse).

      But you don’t even mention that, at all. So, again, if you’re not Jewish you might as well be. Either way, what are you doing here?

      • Thomas Faber
        Thomas Faber says:

        You are too hasty in drawing conclusions. I agree with you, the mass of jews ought in justice to denounce the bad ones. Indeed, it might be their only chance of avoiding calamity, as far as I can see.

        But the chances of them doing that are far greater if they are not met with blanket accusations; as it is, they are bombarded with hate-filled and evil propaganda by their own so-called leaders, to divide and conquer (as always!), and so far, at least, most of them seem to be ignorant of the bigger picture.

        We are blind when we hate, blind when we fear. I wish, perhaps naively, to avoid ruin. If another war is started over the jewish question… what will be left afterwards?

        The reason that I used the quotation marks around “The Jews” is because I do not consider those who are the really evil ones to be jews in any meaningful, religious sense. They are impostors.

        My hope is that the very real problems that involve “The Jews” can be solved peacefully. It is simply that. Be well.

        • Pierre de Craon
          Pierre de Craon says:

          The reason that I used the quotation marks around “The Jews” is because I do not consider those who are the really evil ones to be Jews in any meaningful, religious sense. They are impostors.

          The core of my disagreement with what you have written, Mr. Faber, is that, by the Jews’ own testimony, rabbis and laymen both, their identity has nothing whatsoever to do with their soi-disant religious practice, even granting for the sake of argument that there might be some overlap between what they construe as “meaningful religion” and what you or I might.

          In fact, Judaism as what might be considered a religion was already a dead letter when Christ walked the earth. His words, as reported in the Gospels, leave no room for doubt on that score. The Jews themselves admitted to the truth of Christ’s indictment when, post 70 AD and the sack of Jerusalem that put paid to the Zealot uprising, they created rabbinic Judaism, effectively out of whole cloth, as a vitriolic oppositional force to Christianity. In a certain sense, the year 70 saw the true birth of the phenomenon that Professor MacDonald has insightfully named the Culture of Critique and that has turned Western society into a poisonous simulacrum of its former self.

          • Thomas Faber
            Thomas Faber says:

            That the testimony of some jews, rabbis included, is that “their identity” has nothing to do with the old religion can hardly be used to generalize to 15 million people. I may as well speak on your behalf, because we both have european names!

            Are you familiar with, e.g., “To Eliminate the Opiate” by Rabbi Marvin Antelman? He intensely critizises Communism, Sabbatianism, Frankism, among other insidious ideologies, as “jewish” creations, and condemns them as evil, on religious grounds. Here, surely, is a man who did his best to be morally upright, and to follow the spirit of original judaism – and, I would add, succeeded in it, to a large extent.

            By the same token, some of the harshest critics of jews and judaism, historically and currently, are and have been jews themselves. Is it not better to find common ground with them, both in the interest of being more reasonable in the eyes of fellow humans, and for the sake of justice and fairness?

          • Pierre de Craon
            Pierre de Craon says:

            Sad to say, percentage-wise, the Jews who have been critical, harshly or otherwise, of Judaism constitute a far smaller fragment of Jews than do, say, Catholics who have been critical of the Church or Englishmen who have been critical of the Crown. Put otherwise, in claiming what you do, you are picking cherries in an especially bad harvest year!

            Nor can I regard any more seriously your call for finding common ground, least of all “for the sake of justice and fairness.” Implicit in what you say is more than a hint that such action would be unprecedented, whereas it has been the enterprise of great and saintly men for two thousand years. Their efforts have been met, at the best of times, by Jewish lies and deceit and at the worst of times—such as the present—by open scorn and contempt and the perennial (and perennially false) accusation of irrational hate.

            Is it truly possible that you do not see that Jews hold the whip hand in every formerly white Christian society in the world? What is more, they so signally lack any sense of noblesse oblige or even common decency that their arms continually ache from sadistic use of that whip.

            In both their actions and words, the Jews have declared that no common ground between them and those whom they consider cattle, white Christians foremost, can ever exist. In fact, the very idea of “common” ground is meaningless to them. They see only ground they control and ground they wish to control. There is no third category.

            I would sooner die than betray the principles and doctrines of my Christian faith, and as a component of that, I would never regard the Jews as they regard me—and as doubtless they regard you, too. But my Master, who instructed me and all the rest of His followers to be as wise as serpents but as harmless as doves, never thereby meant that we should deceive ourselves that the two are interchangeable.

            The time for moral preening is long past, Mr. Faber. The tiger is at the gates.

          • Thomas Faber
            Thomas Faber says:

            Well, I cannot say that I disagree with most of what you say. Yes, people who call themselves “jews” have an extremely disproportionate amount of power in today’s world (not just in formerly Christian countries). I will not even reject that they utterly dominate the current state of affairs – only say that at the highest levels of wordly power, things are quite murky – there seems also to be a strong streak of old european so-called nobility, but who has the upper hand is hard to say.

            I am not sure about the percentage of critical jews compared to catholics and englishmen, though. Seeing that “the jews” are seemingly in control of the press, the publishers, and the media… – surely, to keep their hold of power over jewish people, they have an even greater interest in burying critical voices that come from the ranks of jews than those that come from gentiles (I remind you here, for example, of Professor Ariel Toaff – try to study the reaction to his “Blood Passover”-book).

            It is true, also, that you can find words of extreme ignorance in both The Talmud and from the lips of some “Rabbis” as regards non-jews. But again – “we shall control our lesser brethren through anti-semitism” – those who mainly control what the jews hear are obviously not interested in peace. That does not mean that many jews are not. Historically, also, may I remind you – the city of Jerusalem was home to both jew, christian and muslim for hundreds and hundreds of years – living in peaceful coexistence. So the situation is not so simple as that. I will also add that The Talmud is a huge collection from many different hands and times. You can find good words in it, too.

            The thing is, you see, the situation has some highly relevant similarities to what the Divine Christ Jesus spoke of when he spoke of “those who call themselves jews, BUT WHO ARE NOT”… They are not jews – they are impostors. And those “rabbis” who spread such incredible ignorance as some of them do are not really rabbis (the word means master – in a religious sense – and that they are certainly not).

            Does it seem like I am just cleaving words to you? …

            Perhaps you are right, that the tiger is at the gates – that there are no more decent jews left – that Judaism is just a husk in which serpents brood – and that I am but a naive fool to say otherwise.
            I do not see it, however. Not yet, at any rate. And also, I must say – a world that does not recognize that Judaism was, once upon a time at least, a genuine emanation of the One God – is a world that will not survive. I believe that there are still good jews around. And indeed, I see evidence of it when I look.

            I am not here to try to dissuade you from criticizing “jewish” power – I consider it an essential task, and I do it myself. But as far as I can see, it must be done while separating the good from the evil among jews and judaism, or it will end catastrophically.

    • euro-observer
      euro-observer says:

      That quote from Herzl explains a lot. In inter-group dynamics what happens is that individuals get revenge for transgressions done by OTHER individuals. Hence, always the surprise from that person why THEY are receiving abuse, as they have done nothing wrong. The poor shopkeeper does not know that he pays for the financiers stock market fraud.

  8. Charles Frey
    Charles Frey says:

    Most of what Dr. Joyce writes of, and cites other professionals as stating, including Jews, is once again amply demonstrated by the recent conviction of Clare Bronfman and her cohorts; including Keith Raniere.

    Go to David Irving Action Report and read his two relevant posts at the top. The Daily Mail omits to mention, that Edgar Bronfman left Montreal for New York, to become President of The World Jewish Congress, and forgetting, among all this excitement, to pay Canada 800 millions in taxes. [ Monetary Times ].

    As President of the WJC, he was ‘viced’ by Vice President, Lord Janner; House of Lords. The quarter-century-protected pedophile by the UK’s misnamed Criminal Prosecution Office.

    A most suitable pair to lecture Swiss Banks on alleged lack of ethics.

    Edgar’s son, brother of the convicted madam, was very instrumental in PM Trudeau’s win.

      • Charles Frey
        Charles Frey says:

        William, this Prosecution Service is indeed criminal in its avoidance to prosecute this Jew: undoubtedly fearing the entire weight of UK Jewry descending on it; both governmental and multi-institutional: channeled by the BBC.

        This ” criminal office ” expended/wasted a total of 2.2 million pounds on this swine; requiring four separate, so-called Justices; the last one from as far away as New Zealand.

        The ” Lord ” died days before his actual, frequently delayed trial date. This swinish Service then held a :” trial of the facts “, after his fortuitous, timely demise. It was established, that these pigs had sat on decades-old Edinburgh Police reports, citing semen-drenched Kleenex and condoms in his Holiday Inn hotel room; after he and a fifteen year-old retarded boy victim vacated it. Also Vaseline in the night stand.

        To avoid having his absence missed at home, he had sent his wife and later Rabbi daughter away for the Edinburgh abuse weekend.

        Really inexplicable how Clare Bronfman was convicted in Brooklyn, of all places. This piece of unmitigated elite shit sluiced an illegal Mexican woman into the US to work as a domestic for her for 4,300 per month. In four years she received ca. that amount for her entire indentured service. The outstanding wages were awarded by the B court; just under 100 k.

        Irving’s Action Report posts offer greater swinish, psychotic and culture-specific details, based on court documents. All of which corroborate Dr. Joyce’s article and indeed well surpass it in unmitigated filth. ” Branded sex slaves ” [ photo ] exclusively used by Raniere, the fellow she funded from her whisky fortune, to assist with his ” self-improvement ” groups in NY’s capital Albany. Where the Speaker of the House, Hikind, skimmed hundreds of thousands between his grants to Columbia U and some sleazy asbestos-engendered NY law firm.

        Assuming you are British, may I remind you, that the very same CPS sued Goldman Sack’s partner Rubin, for helping to structure Mossad-connected Maxwell’s theft of his ca. 400 companies’ pension funds. GS and the subaltern CPS settled for 200 million, to take Rubin off their prosecution list, in order to allow Clinton to appoint him to the Treasury.

        A little later a Jewish department chain-store owner declared bankruptcy, voiding all pensions, which were picked up by the general taxpayer. Asinine London. blubbered about stricter legislation, only for the 16 months later almost mirror-image repetition. The bankrupt owners watched from their oversized luxury-yachts moored in Monte Carlo. .

        I spent many happy months in GB, made many lasting friends and developed a liking for the average bloke. Therefore I hope, that Moldova will not successfully do to you what the Third Reich failed to achieve.

        When thousands of defrauded pensioners demonstrate throughout GB, carrying placards reading:” Ve Vont our Money Back !!! “, it doesn’t require an algorithm to determine the spelling mistake !

  9. m
    m says:

    It is interesting to ponder the Jewish v indigenous French aspects of Proust. How much came from the mother? How much is typically Jewish? How much of it represents the general decline of European civilization as it moved into bourgeois democracy?

    In addition to ‘jealous paranoia; Proust’s writing showed a strong feminine oriented psychological bent; an almost erotic remembrance of his mother. His obsessions and compulsions. His ability to focus on the minute and inconsequential, and draw from within a singular event pages over pages of dreamlike prose. Unusual for a man, Proust never worked, supported by his mother. And then there was issue of his homosexuality; one suspects that À l’ombre des jeunes filles en fleurs, In the Shadow of Young Girls in Flower, is not about ‘young girls’ at all. Finally, his poor physical health. Proust was clearly a ‘descending’ type.

    That said, his first several novels are probably worthwhile. Especially for the reactions of the Faubourg Saint Germain aristocracy to the ‘new moneyed’ Jewish interloper, Charles Swann. And Swann’s own psychological reaction over being cuckolded by his former prostitute wife’s affair. Proust’s later novels are mostly unreadable due to the ‘narrator’s’ neurotic obsessions, specifically his lover’s lesbian affairs, her general aloofness, and the boredom that ensues.

    Now, one hundred years later, the only thing missing within his continuous novel is the Third World aspect–that is to say, the current on-going negro and Moslem transformation of France. One that, in a real way, was heralded by the degeneracy of Proust’s own time.

    • Pierre de Craon
      Pierre de Craon says:

      Very interesting comment. Thank you. Surely the novel’s hypertrophic nostalgia can’t be blamed solely on a bite of a madeleine!

      More generally speaking, it is hardly a coincidence, I think, that the intellectual and spiritual degeneracy of Judaism should so often be found paired with the moral and psychological degeneracy of homosexuality.

  10. Eric
    Eric says:

    PHARANOIA: an exaggerated, excessive fear or belief that you are being watched by Pharisees !
    (from my expanding dictionary of neologisms)

  11. JRM
    JRM says:

    Another worthwhile exploration by Dr. Joyce.

    I am having a bit if trouble with the following:

    “(In 2013 a genetic mutation was found that makes Ashkenazi Jews more prone to schizophrenia compared to other Ashkenazi Jews but this does not imply that Ashkenazi Jews are more prone to schizophrenia in general.)”

    It seems that perhaps one qualifier, at minimum, is missing from this statement. As it stands, the sense of this remark eludes me.

    • Pierre de Craon
      Pierre de Craon says:

      Your point is well taken, JRM. My own suspicion, however, is that the problem is actually one qualifier too many! That is to say, if you omit the second of the three appearances of the word “Ashkenazi” from the sentence you quote, the remark makes good sense.

  12. John H
    John H says:

    Culture is formed significantly by early education and training and it’s a serious omission here to note cite the Jewish “holy” texts, notably the Talmud. Even admitting that its gruesome admonitions may not be followed by many Jews, it seems quite obvious that this antihumanist text would lead to be being an outsider in any civilized society, whether Christian or Buddhist, and this would invariably lead to psychoses that do not diminish with adjustment (acceptance or financial or other worldly success) to western societies.

    • Pierre de Craon
      Pierre de Craon says:

      Even putting diagnoses of psychosis to one side for the nonce, nurture really does seem to work hand in hand with nature in producing the characteristic Jewish antipathy toward cultured restraint, common civility, and even cleanliness. I suppose that the Australian Abos were even dirtier (they probably still are), but coming in second in that particular contest is surely nothing to envy.

      • Charles Frey
        Charles Frey says:

        During WW I the Kaiser’s troops marched off all inhabitants of occupied, Eastern Jewish communities to their weekly showers for delousing, pursuant to orders by their epidemic-fearing hygiene officers.

        Oh ! Horror ! – and six million Oy veys !

        However, after Brest-Litovsk, the Allies did the same for identical reasons.

        • Pierre de Craon
          Pierre de Craon says:

          If my recollection is correct, Charles, Patton did much the same thing after World War II.

  13. Robert Pinkerton
    Robert Pinkerton says:

    Perception of an external enemy, whether real or contrived by propagnda, promotes group cohesion.

    “Eternal paranoia is the price of survival.” – GARBO. Norman (writer of spy, and international blood-and-thunder novels)
    versus
    “The best ally any enemy of the United States can have is American complacency.” – longtime family friend (b. 1905, d. 1976)

  14. Tom Verso
    Tom Verso says:

    This article is so NOT Andrew Joyce

    I never thought I would say that I was disappointed in anything Andrew Joyce writes. As a social scientific historian, he never ceases to amaze me with encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Jews and the European societies in which they ‘meandered’.

    A good example, of this type of scholarship, comes from this article’s introduction about the extortion of the pathetically spineless Reimann family who sold out their personal dignity and their European history and culture for What; a threat of the reduction in their mega wealth status from super-rich to merely-rich?

    But, this anecdote aside, the rest of the article is to my mind not characteristic of the profound empirical research and logical analysis that I have come to associate with Prof. Joyce.

    First, for the first time I can recall (and I surely can be wrong on this note), he refers to the Jews as a ‘race’. He writes “… member of the Jewish race” (first sentence of article).

    Be it the first time or his general and regular characterization of the Jewish people, the term ‘race’ is a biological term, which historically, and most commonly, differentiates groups of homo-sapiens based on skin color (Black, White, Yellow). Further and most importantly, that difference is genetically based.

    This is to say, one can recognize (observable) a person’s race by skin pigmentation. Further, a geneticist can specify the genetic determinates of pigmentation (MC1R gene and melanocortin 1 receptor).

    Accordingly, if one claims that Jews are a unique race, in the traditional biological sense of the word race, this implies that in a crowd such as baseball stadium, one can walk around and identify the Jews in the crowd just by looking at them. Also, the DNA of those observably identified Jews would also differentiate them from other races.

    In short, one who claims that Jews are unique race is obliged to stipulate specifically what are the differentiating pheno- and geno-types. That is, what observable physical characteristic and testable genetic characteristic differentiates Jews from other ‘races’.

    Having said that, there is a large body of literature, which expands on the concept of race beyond biological to social groupings. However, all of these social definitions are subjective and anecdotal.

    Joyce seemingly, is in this camp. He completely leaves his traditional a hard-core verifiable empirical study behind and indulges in the pseudo-science of psychoanalysis. His repeated reference to “scientific literature” brings to mind the relentless mass news media refrain: “Scientist say… climate, virus, big-bang, etc.”

    Savior the irony! He is solidly in Kevin MacDonald’s “Culture of Critique” camp, which roundly criticizes the negative effects of the psychoanalysis of Freud et al on European culture and society. Then indulges in theories of paranoia.

    Paranoia is “An unrealistic distrust of others or a feeling of being persecuted.”

    “Unrealistic”! Aye now there’s the rub.
    How does one determine what is realistic or unrealistic for another individual persons perception of reality?
    I say: “I don’t trust that person based on my experience of interacting with him.”
    You say: “That’s unrealistic.”
    My experience and perception count for nothing.
    You are the judge of reality. I suffer from paranoia.

    Thus, paranoia is an un-empirically un-physically definable term. It is a metaphor for one person’s perception of another person’s perception of reality. Can you get less empirical?

    Further, to expand this personality metaphor to a sociological concept applied to a whole group of people spanning thousands of years and geographic miles, is metaphor to the nth power. It is absolutely meaningless; unless you’re writing poetry.

    Joyce and the “scientist’ say that the (undefined) ‘race’ of Jews, taken as a whole, is suffering from a mental illness (undefined) paranoia. [Has the real Andrew Joyce been kidnapped and an imposter using his name?]

    Following Kevin MacDonald (as I understand him) and Andrew Joyce (as I use to understand him) the psychological so-called paranoia is in fact a sociological cultivated cultural trait that has and does unify world wide Jewry into a homogeneous Jewish nation.

    It is not a mental illness! It is a cultural/sociological tool for group survival in, and domination of, alien societies.

    The Jewish attempt to dominate other nations e.g. America is no more based on a psychological paranoid mental state than Great Britain’s attempt to dominate France and Germany in the nineteenth century or America’s attempt to dominate the world after WW II.

    Hopefully, this sojourn is a one off trip in the mumbo jumbo psychoanalysis discourses for Dr. Joyce, and he will return to his usual hard-core empirical social scientific writings such as his recent brilliant article: “Semitism and Capitalism
    The Merits and Inadequacies of Middleman Minority Theory in Explaining the Jews”

    • moneytalks
      moneytalks says:

      “… America’s attempt to dominate the world after WW II.”

      should be

      [ USA ZOG’s attempt to dominate the world after WW II ]

  15. Anonyma
    Anonyma says:

    So this lockdown is essentially a Jewish coup…This is their paranoid response to Trump and Brexit and rising populism in Europe. They’ve really overreached themselves this time – that’s for sure.

  16. William Gruff
    William Gruff says:

    I can’t help thinking that ‘Decoding Antisemitism’ is actually code for ‘preventing the goyim from defending themselves from our (Jewish) depredations and parasitism’.

    One day there will be the mother of all pogroms, and then they will ask, as always, ‘why us?’

    • FREESPIRIT
      FREESPIRIT says:

      …….and they get to keep the WEALTH they stole from us, to start all over again, at a time of THEIR choosing.

  17. Rob Bottom
    Rob Bottom says:

    It seems as though in an effort to reassure themselves that whites are not going to go all Nazi on them, Jews are constantly pushing the overton window of what whites must tolerate. In effect, it’s a bit like the so-called “shit tests” that women put men through. The problem arises when they demand that we tolerate the intolerable. They simply cannot linger for very long in our comfort zone of what is tolerable. This then causes white people to realize Jews are the ones wrecking their society, and you end up with the cycle repeating.

    • Blair Fisk
      Blair Fisk says:

      You nailed it. Jews bring the trouble onto themselves due to their own behavior.
      Same with blacks.
      Jews keep poking and pushing and screwing with people until people finally scream,
      “ENOUGH!”

      • FREESPIRIT
        FREESPIRIT says:

        NO, not Blacks.

        They WERE minding their own business in AFRICA until WE and the JEWS, invaded, gave them our Bible and TALMUD, and then went about, STEALING their Land and resources.

        They are YET to receive Justice, or REVENGE

        WE WHITES are still doing that to them to this day, especially by Americans and oh, by the way, the Jews, all commenters here, seem to be talking about, are WHITE Ashkenazi. They go back to about 800 AD + or – and are NOT part of the Middle East, by descendancy, so ,in fact they are NOT Semitic.

        ONLY the TRUE SEMITIC JEWS, like the PALESTINIANS and YEMENIS are Brown.Itis WHY the Ashkenazi want to wipe them out.

        We non Jewish WHITES got an extra bad rap from THE Ashkenazi (White) JEWISH ownership of MOST of the SLAVE SHIPS

  18. Robert Henderson
    Robert Henderson says:

    The strange thing about Jews is that they are aware of the behaviours which prompt antisemitism, but continue to practice the behaviours over and over again. That speaks of either arrogance or brute stupidity,.

  19. 9593
    9593 says:

    Having renounced Catholicism about about age 25, in a quarrel over Papal infallibility related to birth control, I recall some emotional difficulty to resolve family connections: An Aunt who was a nun. A sister-in-law who had converted from fundamental Methodism to become an enthusiastic Catholic.
    So, it took about a year, to settle into generic Protestantism, as a practical place to hang out and consider marriage.
    Few there are, apparently, of unsettled Jews who would renounce Judaism and find another afilliation unburdened by the influence of the Talmud, or join Neturei Karta:

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ultra-orthodox-anti-zionist/

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