Kabullshit

Actual mural at the US embassy in Kabul

How much did the Afghan War cost?

“When you add up the cost of Defense and State Department funds sunk into Operations Enduring Freedom and Resolute Support, then throw in the cost of caring for the conflicts’ veterans and the interest on the money borrowed to cover it all, you’re looking at over $2 trillion, according to a report released Friday.” [source]

I estimate that’s about around $7000 per U.S. citizen. Real value for money! What about the allies?

The UK and Germany – who had the largest numbers of troops in Afghanistan after the US – spent an estimated $30bn and $19bn respectively over the course of the war. [source]

Of course, a lot of people also died, but we won’t go into that. So, what was it all about?

The “prole feed” version of why we were in Afghanistan for TWENTY YEARS!!!! was (1) to fight terrorism, (2) improve women’s education and opportunities, and (3) create a nice cosy environment for Afghan’s LGBTQ+ population.

Woke joke!
If you believed any of those “Kabullshit” reasons for even five seconds then you were sadly duped. In fact you can be absolutely sure that certain globalist scumbags were pissing themselves laughing at your gullibility.
No, the real reasons Western countries poured trillions of dollars into this failed enterprise was because there were real potential benefits to our power elites — at least in the early days. But what were they?
One obvious reason was, of course, not even connected to Afghanistan, but to an entirely different country in the Middle East:
Stop putting your country so close to our bases!
Yes, having U.S. bases in Afghanistan was a geopolitical move against Iran, either to serve Saudi Arabia, Israel, or the petrodollar, and probably all three. With the pull-out from Afghanistan, the Islamic Republic of Iran looks a little less surrounded than it was.
Also, you can extrapolate out from this and see Western involvement in Afghanistan as a move against China and Russia (ChiRus). But that’s a much bigger, fuzzier, and more complex picture, so let’s just stick with keeping this article tightly focused.
What other clear, concise reasons, then, did the West have for wasting the first two decades of the 21st century in a Third World shit hole?
Well, I guess, opium production is worth taking a look at:
Yup, that’s right. The Taliban, when they were first in power, were quite effective at stamping out the  opium trade. But once the West installed a puppet government, production shot up.
I’m not going to say that was deliberate U.S. policy, because the idea of the American government spending $2 trillion+ just to increase dope production in Central Asia looks retarded. But who knows? In my view, it’s much more a case of farmers turning to a surefire cash crop as a way of surviving the chaos unleashed by Western occupation and Taliban resistance. Also, as part of this picture, there’s plenty of evidence of Afghan government people being tied up in the opium trade and the West turning a blind eye.
But other economic factors are far more important.
Did you know that Afghanistan is sitting on a treasure trove of minerals? No, I didn’t either until I looked. The media was too busy telling me about how wonderful it was that young girls were being encouraged to burn their hijabs by feminist teachers flown in from the West.
Here’s an optimistic report on this mineral wealth from 2014:
“Despite being one of the poorest nations in the world, Afghanistan may be sitting on one of the richest troves of minerals in the world, valued at nearly $1 trillion, scientists say.
Afghanistan, a country nearly the size of Texas, is loaded with minerals deposited by the violent collision of the Indian subcontinent with Asia. The U.S. Geological Survey began inspecting what mineral resources Afghanistan had after U.S.-led forces drove the Taliban from power in the country in 2004.
In 2006, U.S. researchers flew airborne missions to conduct magnetic, gravity and hyperspectral surveys over Afghanistan.
The aerial surveys determined that Afghanistan may hold 60 million tons of copper, 2.2 billion tons of iron ore, 1.4 million tons of rare earth elements such as lanthanum, cerium and neodymium, and lodes of aluminum, gold, silver, zinc, mercury and lithium. For instance, the Khanneshin carbonatite deposit in Afghanistan’s Helmand province is valued at $89 billion, full as it is with rare earth elements.”
But minerals are hard to get out. The real riches lie just beyond Afghanistan, with Afghanistan merely serving as a stepping stone to get at them.
To the North of Afghanistan lies Turkmenistan, which has almost as much natural gas as the United States. As a remote, landlocked country, surrounded by greedy neighbours, however, it has very few easy routes to offload this precious resource.
Here’s a graph showing how it measures up to the other big gas producers:
That’s Turkmenistan in 6th place, right behind the USA.
Back in the early days of the occupation, the plan was to pacify the country and then build a nice, long pipeline through Afghanistan, linking Turkmenistan to Pakistan, India, and the Indian Ocean.
Yeh, I know, in hindsight it looks pretty stupid, and Pakistan is far from being a reliable ally. But in the early Zeroes, it must have seemed almost a possibility. So, what went wrong?

Well, quite simply, the US had a rival, namely China, which decided, as part of its Belt and Road Strategy, to build its own pipeline linking Turkmenistan to China’s vast industrial hinterland. By 2009, Turkmeni natural gas was flowing all the way to Shanghai.

That was the real death knell for Western involvement in Afghanistan, greatly lowering the incentives to stay there year after year.

After 2009, Western involvement increasingly became a question of saving face and protecting political reputations, while also forlornly hoping that the Afghans would turn their backs on the Taliban.

The writing was clearly on the wall, but the Obama Administration thought it was worth a couple more rolls of the dice. That is what led to the pointless troop surges of 2009 and 2010:

Once that failed, it was merely a case of hanging on to pass the poisoned chalice of defeat to someone else. Finally, in the last few days, it ended up on Joe Biden’s lips. Suck it up, Joe! You’re the fall guy for decades of failure.
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Colin Liddell is the Chief Editor of Affirmative Right and the author of Interviews & Obituaries, a collection of encounters with the dead and the famous. Support his work by it here (USA), here (UK), and here (Australia). He is also featured in Arktos’s collection A Fair Hearing: The Alt-Right in the Words of Its Members and Leaders.

57 replies
  1. James Bowery
    James Bowery says:

    Speaking of geopolitical moves, it amazes me that, for over a decade, I’m the only person who has been raising the alarm bell about this 2006 article:

    Questions of survival

    The fear expressed that “a real decline of the West, particularly the United States, would have dramatic consequences for the Jewish people,” also led to controversy. Brandeis University president Jehuda Reinharz agreed that this type of decline can be expected “in the coming two decades” – but Stuart Eisenstadt was less emphatic about it. He believes the United States will remain the leading power. In all events, it was agreed the Jews “should strengthen cultural links with non-Western civilizations, particularly China and also India,” powers that are on the ascent. This is not a question of preference or closeness; it is a question of survival, of readiness for the future. How should this be done? That will have to be the topic of discussion in the next gatherings already being planned.

    • pterodactyl
      pterodactyl says:

      The Jews have a lot of power in the West due to (a) the western people refusing to notice race and therefore welcoming the Jews and letting them control the banks & the media (b) The white people feeling bad when told about the H

      They will find the Chinese & Indians harder to penetrate as these races priorities their own race, with the Chinese also wanting to conquer the world, and they will shed no tears when the H story is told to them. They are very good at corruption however and know how to make deals with anyone powerful who wishes to assist them in bringing about the downfall of the West. So they will co-operate at that stage,

      • hotrod31
        hotrod31 says:

        What kind of idiot makes a statement like … “with the Chinese also wanting to conquer the world” without any evidence? Only a shill, I suspect. Cui bono?
        The Chinese have had many opportunities over the centuries … to conquer ‘the world’, however, history indicates that they preferred not to do this. So, before you make unsubstantiated inflammatory statements, refer to facts that you can support with evidence.

        • Oscar Wilson
          Oscar Wilson says:

          The Chinese did not have the power or interest to engage in an imperialism far outside the Middle Kingdom perimeters – until recently. The Kaiser’s sleeping giant has woken up, and on a scale greater than the third-word revolution championed by Lin Piao. Obsession with Zionism should not distract from concerns about Islamism or “Socialism with Chinese characteristics” (such as the militarisation of outer space). “Make a noise in the East, and strike in the West” – or vice-versa.

        • charles frey
          charles frey says:

          01 What a clever handle: hotrod 31 ! Sounds quintessentially very road friendly and American. Almost like coming from a genuine shill.

          02 How about Taiwan overflights; Vietnam; Cambodia; north eastern Thailand; Indian border; Tibet; hoard of US Treasury bonds; South China Sea artificial, Navy-serving islands; criminal Casino-based subversion of underpopulated Australia; eyes on underpopulated Siberia; financial and political penetration of South America; purchase of Canadian, Alberta companies, bankrupted by Biden’s cancellation of the Keystone pipeline; [ affording China a window facing south, their binoculars looking straight into those of NORAD looking north, in search of Soviet missiles over the northern horizon ]; the Silk Road and its parallel financial and banking system with Europe, Russia, India, et.al., to replace the dollar as the world currency; COVID; wholesale theft of US intellectual property and defense secrets; purchase from Israel of its somehow acquired secret US fighter navigation systems; buying influence with gigantic grants to important US universities.

          03 Just for starters, without rummaging in the back of my skull too much.

          04 Don’t they teach you anything at the Israeli Ministry of Information !?

      • Jerry
        Jerry says:

        The Jews will try to penetrate the Chinese for sure. They will even try to penetrate the Chinese DNA (mixed marriages) to gain influence. It will not be as easy as with the Europeans.

    • William Gruff
      William Gruff says:

      The Jews have been cosying up to the Chinese for sometime. However, given that their historical successes in the Middle East and Europe have depended to some extent on looking very like those they have lived amongst, and the Chinese are known for their particular dislike of foreigners, it is unlikely that the <<>> are going to be able to control their new chums as they have managed to control us. Something else they should consider is that a nation that is not at all afraid of the USA and is working hard to replace it as the world’s number one, to the point of military or naval confrontation, is not going to bat an eye at the thought of destroying a little country in the Eastern Mediterranean.

      A people addicted to crypsis should avoid a country in which there is nowhere for them to hide.

      • Dave Bowman
        Dave Bowman says:

        A people addicted to crypsis should avoid a country in which there is nowhere for them to hide

        Thank you. This is one of the most simple, central and obvious, unchanging principles for any people who live the way of Jews. So any Jew should be able to understand it very easily.

        But they do not, and never have. Jewishness is, of all times and peoples, the most deranged, vicious, remorseless, hate-filled, conscience-free and murderously-evil form of insanity.

  2. Robert Henderson
    Robert Henderson says:

    The idea that the USA or a collection of countries can as a matter of practicality control countries in the second and third worlds has been shown to be a nonsense ever since the 1950s when the European empires began to dissolve.

    At that time colonial powers tried nation building with their ex-colonies which failed miserably and it has continued to fail miserably ever since, with the Afghan attempt being a particularly dramatic failure considering the huge resources of manpower and money . applied over 20 years.

    The West can save itself by refusing to engage with countries which are either hopeless cases whose rulers relayon AID to totalitarian states such as China.

    The Western states still (just) control enough territory and have enough cultural homogeneity to survive under such a regime, although they need to end mass immigration now,.

    What the First World elites need to understand is that their societies are not invulnerable and could be overturned, especially if the totalitarian creed which is political correctness is allowed to flourish and make it more and more impossible to speak and write the truth.

    John Milton put the need for free expression eloquently centuries ago:

    ‘And though all the winds of doctrine were let loose upon the earth, so truth be in the field [and] we do injuriously by licensing and prohibiting to misdoubt her strength. Let her and falsehood grapple; who ever knew truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter…’ [Milton – Areogapitica].

    • Rae West
      Rae West says:

      @Robert Henderson —
      You say “What the First World elites need to understand is that their societies are not invulnerable…”
      .
      You don’t seem to realise Jews are a separate, hard, discrete chunk of elites world-wide. They know perfectly well that ‘their’ societies are very vulnerable!
      .
      I’m pleased to see and repeat Colin Liddell’s site is here
      https://affirmativeright.blogspot.com

      • Robert Henderson
        Robert Henderson says:

        But Jews amongst elites would would not be immune from the ill effects of what I call conquest by other means, ie not invasion by force but by the treachery of elites allowing mass immigration. . Suppose for example that France or the UK became a majority Muslim country that would not be desirable end for Jews.

        • Jerry
          Jerry says:

          The Jews (Jewish genes) are indifferent to extrapolatory thinking. Jews are wired the same way a cuckoo chick is wired to push out the foster mother’s eggs/chicks. Doesn’t the cuckoo chick know that if it keeps doing that there will be no “gentile” chicks to grow up and foster them? They donot “know” because they are wired to act this way. When that becomes a reality maybe they will adapt in a different way. Jews have survived well under Muslims for more than a thousand years and they do not see any threat except from the gentiles. So what if the US turns into another Latin America with parts of Middle East? They are programmed to think that is not a threat to them.

    • pterodactyl
      pterodactyl says:

      Robert Henderson: “What the First World elites need to understand is that their societies are not invulnerable and could be overturned, especially if the totalitarian creed which is political correctness is allowed to flourish..”

      White countries have been wealthy and not threatened for an entire generation, so the people are spoilt and pampered. They cannot conceive of this not carrying on forever. They seriously think pronouns and LGBT stuff are the big issues of the world. They have no idea what really matters outside their fake media-world, or how events can suddenly take a massive turn very quickly.

      Personally, I would have thought that rapid changes in demography due to mass immigration over a few decades would have woken them up, or the way the health service wants to jab people with RNA on the basis that ‘the gov and Big Pharma approve of it’ – I thought this would waken people up that something is seriously wrong with our governments and they are not on our side. I also thought that people would wake up by straying off the MSM into alternative news sites – surely ‘Fox News Tucker Carlson’ or ‘Sky News Australia’ easily found on the internet would not be too great a step for them away from the safety of the herd? But even the banning of a sitting president from social media did not set off alarm bells that the narrative is controlled.

      So the people are politically stupid, and too closed-minded and sheep-like to stray off MSM for ten minutes, so we cannot rely on the wisdom of the people to get us off this terrible path to self-destruction.

      However, when the first Western nation falls properly (and suddenly), this could be the wake up call for the others.

      Or, other factors that could wake them up:
      – economic crash wiping out savings and pensions before the govt gets is foot properly on our necks.
      – the collapse of the Covid narrative due to side effects levels of the jab.
      – the downfall of B Gates or another top player, accompanied by leaks similar in impact to Julian Assange’s. This shows they are not invulnerable.
      – A proper resistance developing such as might happen in France where they print the names and photographs of the politicians pushing the jabs and put them up in public places. A few assassins of politicians might make the others re-evaluate whether colluding with the enemy-within is the safest option after all.
      – One region such as France or Eastern Europe breaking free properly from the tyranny, followed by massive migration of the ‘awake’ to this region, which gives strength in numbers.

      • JM
        JM says:

        @pterodactyl
        “White countries have been wealthy and not threatened for an entire generation, so the people are spoilt and pampered. They cannot conceive of this not carrying on forever. They seriously think pronouns and LGBT stuff are the big issues of the world. They have no idea what really matters outside their fake media-world, or how events can suddenly take a massive turn very quickly.”

        How true. We have been in a situation where the main impact of wrong politics has been mass replacement immigration (‘assisted invasion’).

        But now the downside is FAR greater. It’s been spelled out and is in black and white for all to see. It’s the Reset, the biggest shakedown in the history of the world under the smokescreen of an extraordinarily overblown “epidemic” (Scamdemic). It has transcended the demographic issue, but going on the ‘faces in the crowds’ at the mass demos in Paris (&etc) – is related to it. Patriots had better be prepared to project alternative economic policies into the wider population (which is still dominated by the trivia of the commonplace – like the preserving their scant savings/property) or they will be outflanked by the evil ‘alternatives’ and will miss the greatest and perhaps the last opportunity to gain mass influence.

        The tragedy is that patriots have been very busy seeking unity on sundry social/demographic issues and haven’t spent the time on doing the same with economic fundamentals. I suspect that part of the reason for this is that the latter is the single issue on which the achievement of unity is most difficult. The main analysis and discussion I see on this question is on the UNZ site where the sole input comes from someone who is completely separated from patriotic concerns. It’s as though patriots don’t see economics as politics.

      • Robert Henderson
        Robert Henderson says:

        ” White countries have been wealthy and not threatened for an entire generation, so the people are spoilt and pampered. They cannot conceive of this not carrying on forever. They seriously think pronouns and LGBT stuff are the big issues of the world. They have no idea what really matters outside their fake media-world, or how events can suddenly take a massive turn very quickly.”

        I disagree with that. I think many of the white elites have a large component of people who fear the effects of mass immigration – vide white flight from the cities in the West – but are unwilling to speak out about the “joy” which comes with immigration from the second and third worlds because of the penalties they would incur if they did speak out, everything from criminal charges, loss of job and general ostracisation .

        • pterodactyl
          pterodactyl says:

          Robert Henderson –
          I do not know what the powerful elites think – but I think the wealthy types think they can avoid the effects of immigration by living in exclusive areas where housing costs are high – how wrong they are and it is coming to them for certain.

          As for ordinary voters, in private conversation many/most ordinary people do complain about immigration, that is, after the other person has signalled that he disapproves, so free talk is possible and the other party will not be ‘reported’ to others as a right wing racist for expressing concern.

          But when it comes to voting, these same people, in Britain at least, continue to vote in the main for the mainstream politicians who are pro open border. The video link shows how the Tories have been open border for decades.

          (The Tory Party is the same one that arranged for S. Rhodesia to be transferred to Chinese-backed Mugabe all those years ago, and even knighted Mugabe to show whose side they were on).

          https://www.bitchute.com/video/a6c4XBN38se7/

          If people really believed the implications of mass immigration were terrible and not far off, they surely would have voted over the years for the ‘right wing’ alternatives such as UKIP (a bit right wing) or BNP (actually spoke of repatriation via incentives).

          The fact that we have no BNP or UKIP MPs at all proves that the people, whilst not wanting immigration, are not actually prepared to vote for something to be done about it.

          • Robert Henderson
            Robert Henderson says:

            “The fact that we have no BNP or UKIP MPs at all proves that the people, whilst not wanting immigration, are not actually prepared to vote for something to be done about it.”

            History shows the British parliamentary system is virtually impervious to new political parties coming to power. Since full adult suffrage was achieved in 1929 no party other than the Tories and Labour has managed a majority in the House of Commons . No has any entirely new party been part of a coalition government,

            This is unsurprising The fact that any new party would have to find 650 people willing to stand in a general election, the mainstream British media rarely gives coverage to new parties and any new parties which wish to speak against non pc subjects such as mass immigration and political correctness.

    • 12AX7
      12AX7 says:

      The First World elites are vigorously destroying their own countries, what they are doing is not a mistake or an accident. There are some exceptions such as Dementia Joe who always was an idiot and whose mind is now shot. Dementia Joe wasn’t smart enough to realize the long range implications of anything, he was always just a cheap, crooked politician. He represents that class of people who used their positions to enrich themselves beyond measure and to wield arbitrary power. The elites are happy to wreck their own countries, and I’m not referring to The Usual Suspects here either, they are a separate case.

      Elite behavior was on wretched display for the whole world to see when the USSR imploded. Communist elites such as factory managers got busy stealing and selling everything they could lay their hands on without regard to the future of the new ex-Soviet republics that would need these industrial assets to prosper. Military officers did likewise, sometimes selling modern weapons for scrap value, other times removing valuable parts such as aircraft engines while leaving the rest of the asset to rot. There was justified fear in the early 1990’s that even nuclear weapons or materials might have been stolen and sold.

      The elites in the West would be glad to have their societies implode and are actually working towards that goal. They intend to pick the carcasses of western countries clean when the implosion happens; think of the people who got wealthy during Weimar Germany as well as the collapse of the USSR. Those are the examples to follow.

      That’s what makes the elites so evil, they are freely choosing the ruin of their nations, the impoverishment of the vast majority of the citizenry and the displacement of the citizenry by the worst foreigners they can find. Evil ultimately is illogical; ruining one’s nation and piling up wealth that can never be used defies common sense.

      • charles frey
        charles frey says:

        01 Indeed, after the SU collapsed, nuclear material was confiscated by Police in the vicinity of Ulm, West Germany. Suspected origin: SU or Ukraine.

        02 Yes, they sold all kinds and quantities of military equipment before departing East Germany. Army truck parts, gasoline and all kinds of weaponry. Within the shadow of the Brandenburg Gate’s eastern side, they set up a huge bazaar, selling off the sidewalks and asphalt.

        03 There, I bought a Red Airforce senior officer’s dress-cap, had it dry-cleaned, mounted on a hunting trophy wooden plaque and mailed it to Reagan in Los Angeles, with a note thanking him for ridding us of the Wall.

        04 I got his mailing address from the US Embassy to East Germany, in East Berlin and mailed it from a few doors down, raising some approving laughter and remarks. I treasure his and Nancy’s thank-you-note.

        05 While approaching Berlin on a secondary road from the south, I noticed a car which had been before me for many miles, suddenly turn off into the woods at a mere driveway. My curiosity slowed me down and I then noticed a Red Army truck, having come from the north [ Berlin ] in my rear mirror, turn into the same lane. Obviously a monetization of some marketable items.

        06 Ordinary Red Army soldiers lived in barracks with windows curtained with pages of Pravda. They didn’t go hungry and were always in the best of spirits, but got only ca. 2 West Marks as monthly pocket money. None wanted to rejoin their sweethearts back home without some sort of western luxury items as gifts. Who can blame them. They took back an infinitesimal fraction from what their paradisiacal state had collectively stolen from them in the first place.

        07 US and Red Army troops and convoys mingled freely on the newly all-German Autobahnen and in their rest stops, before their well-regulated departures. [ In contrast to Idiot Biden’s holydaying best ].

        08 Whenever I saw them come up short for a beer or some wurst at these stops, I could not but help them out, as I would with any of my former US college buddies. But for the language and uniform – indistinguishable, and no longer swine Ehrenburg’s puppets.

        09 And what are these minor re-appropriations of their original productivity, compared to the Harvard President and Jew Larry Summers and his Moscow-born fellow Harvard professor and co-ethnic Shleifer. Together with a majority of their Russian tribesmen and women, working out of comparatively luxurious Moscow offices, over-paid and taking USAID-funded group junkets, to break from their task of once again robbing the Russian people blind through their euphonious, in-house designed Privatization mandate !!!.

        Clearing the way for the likes of swine Browder [ Magnitski Act ] and their multi-billionaire Khodorkovsky, who stole ca. 450 billion in natural resources, had one mayor killed, who was en route to the governor of the Oblast, to complain of K’s oil company not paying municipal taxes to the town housing his uncounted workers.

        K sold his resources to a shell company in the Caribbean at a loss, claiming huge tax credits from the Russian Treasury. Said shell company then resold it on the world market at going prices.

        The Treasury sued him successfully before the International Court, but could not even collect on its awarded costs, of 54,000, because Baron de Rothschild of London, in a last second maneuver had K’s remaining assets transferred to him.
        Pattern recognition illegal, but luckily superfluous.

        10 The regularly leftist and politically demented Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, funded by the public, explained this poor, victimized Jew’s story in a prime time one hour segment, with the main interview having taken place in his residually modest Swiss mansion.

        11 Unfortunately, at last count I had several sets of underwear. Otherwise I would join the sans culottes of 1793, wholly in their methods and partly in their goals. A pitchfork I could borrow.

        • 12AX7
          12AX7 says:

          Very interesting. I visited the USSR shortly before its breakup and I was overwhelmed by the friendliness, good nature and hospitality of people in several of the Soviet republics. No one believed in Communism or even feared the KGB by that time. A general air of disdain towards the communist ruling class and particularly the nomenklatura was evident everywhere.

          Most of the people were lucky to pick up scraps from the implosion of the system, that’s all the average person got. The big Christmas presents were hauled off by The Usual Suspects with the connivance of their comrades in the U.S. and UK as you mentioned. The whole “privatisation” scheme was just a way of legalizing the wholesale looting of the state. The same think happened in Weimar Germany with unpleasant consequences eventually. Look for it to happen in the U.S. when this country implodes too.

          I think I’m beginning to see an historical pattern here. Is that allowed anymore?

          • pterodactyl
            pterodactyl says:

            12AX7 & Charles Frey – what I never understood was why there was no payback against the communists after their system collapsed. Why were the KGB allowed to continue to be employed in the new regime? Why did Merkel being an ex communist not preclude her from leading the unified Germany? Germans in E Germany must, to this day, vote for her in large numbers. Why did they not string them all up?
            This suggests, unfortunately, that if the Covid plot fails that everything will be ‘forgiven & forgotten’ and there will be no repercussions, and Gates will be allowed to keep his wealth.

        • pterodactyl
          pterodactyl says:

          Charles Frey – v interesting.
          As an aside, anyone who reads the erudite articles & comments in The Occidental Observer will gain a better understanding of the world and politics and history and how it all works than such a person would gain by being a student of history at university for 3 years. Imagine being the latter, and emerging with your degree believing you are an expert, then coming across this blog with an open mind. It must be quite disconcerting.

      • Stig
        Stig says:

        ECC83:
        Who said this wealth can never be used?
        Maybe we don’t understand what the goal is, and that is why we see it as illogical.
        The richest few wealth heading into the stratosphere, stocks at record high (whatever this means), cattle immobilized, marked and beat into submission while our overseers do as they please. Evil is not illogical but misunderstood.

      • pterodactyl
        pterodactyl says:

        12AX7 – ” Evil ultimately is illogical; ruining one’s nation and piling up wealth that can never be used defies common sense.”

        I do not think they do it for money or power, as once a wealthy nation is reduced to ruins (or handed over to Islam) there is less money & power for them. Take the downfall of white run S Africa as an example – clearly there never was going to be any power or money for banks ((or anyone)) from its downfall, none for big business or wealthy whites or politicians, yet all these either worked tirelessly themselves towards the goal of the destruction of White rule, or let others work towards this goal whilst raising no resistance or objections. They knew there was nothing for them from its downfall (and they knew the blacks also would be far worse off) so their motive can only have been hatred – an inner hatred of the better. Our behaviour is in our genes and the left (etc) are programmed with this hate, even if there is no gain for them.

        Basically, the wealthy elite wants to sink the luxury liner in which they too live & enjoy a fantastic lifestyle. They put this aim above self-interest. Obviously they will still try and get the best lifeboats for themselves.

    • Pierre de Craon
      Pierre de Craon says:

      Anyone who has read Areopagitica (it is spelt correctly thus) with true care knows that it is far from being a clarion call for freedom of expression. It is indeed unalterably opposed to any such thing.

      No one need take my word for this claim. Willmoore Kendall read the pamphlet with extraordinary attention some sixty years ago, and his discussion of Arepagitica’s true signification within its many subtleties and assumptions and of Milton’s frequent and suggestive use of misdirection constitutes one of the best ways to make productive use of an hour of one’s life of which I am aware.

      https://www.jstor.org/stable/2126891?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

  3. Forever Guilty
    Forever Guilty says:

    Its just beginning. With leadership firmly in Jewish and Affirmative Action hands and hands of their servants there would be more and more disasters.

    Jews are very good in corrupting and destroying. Building? Not so much.

  4. Karl Haemers
    Karl Haemers says:

    The Taliban are the Pashtun people of Southern Afghanistan. They have been there for 1000s of years. Only became Muslim some time after Muhammad of course, 7 or 800 AD. It’s their nation.
    It must be said that after the Taliban was chased out of leadership and opium production was ramped up again, the Taliban eventually got involved in the business themselves, in order to fund their resistance.
    It also must be said that Jews (again) were heavily into this opium trade, especially the Sackler family that profited from their opioid sales in the US, leading to all those deaths. Our modern day Sassoon family.

    • Stig
      Stig says:

      The Taliban seem to be pretty principled bunch and they stamped out the poppy cultivation, as you mentioned. That they started dealing in it later, would appear to be uncharacteristic.
      Do you have proof of this?
      And Stickler’s business was not in opioids of afgan origin as far as I know.
      Correct me if I’m wrong.

  5. Lucius Vanini
    Lucius Vanini says:

    The media are making a big issue of what the Taliban recovery of their country means for Afghan women. Well, my heart bleeds for Afghan women’s inability to
    *treat their men like johns;
    *make their husbands pay for the raising of children who, usually unbeknownst to the husbands, aren’t theirs but another man’s;
    *divorce-rape their husbands, despoiling them of houses and children;
    *me-too any man for whom they come to conceive a dislike or from whom they want extortion money;
    *make accusation of men equivalent to conviction;
    *launch vicious androphobic campaigns in the name of “feminism”;
    *deny men’s parental rights in aborting children in the womb contrary to the father’s wishes, or, on the other hand, compel the father to pay for the child he’d prefer to have aborted.

    One reason why Islamist warriors are as committed as they are is that they see what’s happened to US after we stopped being men. They’d rather die than go the way we have…. Actually, the reason why we can be tyrannized by a few Talmudic bigots and battered by barely-humans (blacks), humans by the skin of their big teeth, is the same for which we are the frequent victims of our own women. Weakness.

    • pterodactyl
      pterodactyl says:

      Lucius Vanini
      – It is hard to ‘rebuild nations’ when your main priority is women’s rights and LGBT stuff. It makes you look ridiculous. Yesterday Safiya feroz, who was Afghanistan’s first female fighter pilot, was stoned to death.

      She was persuaded by some US ‘equality & women’s rights department’ that being a fighter pilot was a good career move for a young woman. There is a terrible image of her reaching out whilst half stoned. How many of the people involved in making her into a pilot seriously thought they were spreading enlightenment to the world?

      • Lucius Vanini
        Lucius Vanini says:

        PTERODACTYL–
        I’d say few or none.

        I’d say that like the venomous serpents who’ve sown dissension between the sexes in the West, those instigators had an interest in weakening Afghan Islamic society and rendering it ripe for exploitation and ruin. I’d say they are the SAME instigators–and we know who are disproportionately among them.

        From instinct I desire that females be as happy and prosperous as they can be: free too, but not quite so free that they’re able to become monsters, become men’s serial victimizers, sell out their race, collaborate with enemies in our ethnic/genetic/cultural ruin.

        Had the culture of the poisoned West ultimately prevailed in Afghanistan, you can be sure that Afghan women would eventually have done all of the above, as our women are doing. That fighter pilot was just part of the advance guard.

        Stoning is a pretty severe measure; and I wish the Taliban could’ve found some other way of making an example of her; but I’m reluctant to condemn men who’ve done a better job of being a man than I have.

  6. pterodactyl
    pterodactyl says:

    $7000 per American = $50,000 per Afghani.
    In past centuries wars were to plunder other nations and take money from them, but these days wars seem to be to spend money on the enemy, then at the end of the war invite the enemy over to your own lands after feeling bad about causing all the chaos.

    • Lucius Vanini
      Lucius Vanini says:

      PTERODACTYL–
      Now the American citizenry IS the enemy, if they’re White and especially middle-class. Europhobic oligarchs are at war, undeclared but very real, against America as we’ve known it. They’d destroy the foundations on which the USA became a great empire.

  7. Alieu
    Alieu says:

    (((Richard Holbrooke))) came up with a new strategy in Afghanistan under Obama’s nominal time in charge. The strategy was to ally with the poppy growers and heroin smugglers rather than try to prevent their operations since they both had a common enemy in the Taliban. As mentioned in the article, they banned opium production in 2001 before the US invasion and so the heroin smugglers didn’t want the Taliban back in charge since they stood to lose their very lucrative business. So, after 2009, US and Nato forces were ordered not to destroy poppy fields or try to prevent the smuggling of heroin out of the country.

    Of course, this policy also had the side benefit of flooding the US and Europe with cheap heroin, playing a huge part in the opoid epidemic that has killed hundreds of thousands of European-Americans, causing the first ever decline in their population in America – which Jewish Supremacists like Jennifer Rubin celebrate as “fabulous”. Over the last ten years around 90% of America’s heroin imports have come from Afghanistan. Interesting to note that the massive proliferation of both legal (Sacklers) and illegal opoids (Holbrooke) which have so negatively affected European-Americans – have a Jewish origin. This must be another one of the much-vaunted “blessings” America has received for all the support they’ve given to Israel over the decades.

  8. charles frey
    charles frey says:

    01 It has become ultimately obvious, that no contract with this whispering Administration is worth the verbiage or ink and paper.

    02 No contract, based on International Law or Conventions is honored by these swine. Nor any ad hoc or specific formal contract. Nor any ” implied ” contract, nor any contract established by mere mutual modus operandi.

    03 Forget, altogether, unofficial promises, decency or even HONOR.

    04 Most of us remember the live footage from within the White House SITUATION ROOM during highest level, in-person deliberations, minute to minute, during the Cuban missile crisis.

    05 Now we are treated to purported, current video conferences by the Whisperer with alleged other parties at the other end while quite enjoying quiet Camp David. . Except, that some astute journalists noticed, on the wall, the wrong current time difference between Camp David and Moscow: strongly suggesting the current broadcasting of a different, earlier video with a previously correct time difference. It’s no disgrace to have to re-read the above. Being subjected to CRT leaves little time to intensively learn how to read time, and avoid bullshitting the deplorable taxpayer.

    06 I can well feel for and understand the fear of imminent, diabolically inflicted death, felt by the hundreds of thousands who sided, to one degree or another, and WITH OBVIOUSLY MISPLACED TRUST, with the US Command there. As a toddler I violently acted out against my mother when she was obliged to tightly strap an entire skull covering gas mask over my head, in preparation for hitting the improvised shelter below our apartment building in Berlin. To date I am repulsed by the smell of latex.

    07 Even at that young age one understands the fates of neighbors who were less lucky and burned to death in their cellars, unable to escape through caved-in exterior basement doors. And so, claustrophobia is another lasting by-product. Claustrophobia can be felt in a state like the DDR, hermetically sealed off, under penalty of almost certain death, as in Afghanistan. With imbecilic, Peter-principle promoted Generals, shamelessly bullshitting us, that escape flights from their well-protected air-base are working well, WHEN, IN REALITY, THE TALIBAN CONTROLS ALL ACCESS ROADS TO IT !!!

    08 WHEN, EXACTLY, WILL THE MAJORITY OF OLD-TYPE AMERICANS ENGAGE IN A THREE MILLION MARCH ON WASHINGTON, TO ENCOURAGE THIS LIMITLESS TUB OF UNTREATED SEWAGE TO QUIT ??????

    WHEN WILL YOU DRAW UP THE LONG-DESERVED AND JUDICIALLY ALMOST ASSURED

    I M P E A C H M E N T !!!!!!

    OR ARE BOTH OF THE ABOVE MORE ” INCONVENIENT ” THAN THE CERTAIN, DIABOLICAL FATE BEFALLING THEIR AMERICAN-MISLED GIRLS, WOMEN AND MEN ???

  9. Chris Cosmos
    Chris Cosmos says:

    Yes all these things have some importance but the real engine of war is the most obvious, i.e., the military-industrial-complex along with the drug-dealing CIA. The money went to contractors of one kind or another and it was a lot of money and often these contracts were fraudulent.

  10. Travis
    Travis says:

    “having U.S. bases in Afghanistan was a geopolitical move against Iran, either to serve Saudi Arabia, Israel, or the petrodollar, and probably all three”

    The other two may be factors in gaining cooperation, but we all know the goal here is “Greater Israel” and the Jews are running this show.

    • Oscar Wilson
      Oscar Wilson says:

      @ Travis: People who would agree with your last sentence include the Taliban, Hamas, many Saudis and Iranians.

  11. Edward Harris
    Edward Harris says:

    Long ago I had Pashtun students whom I liked very much.
    Afghanis are not the problem, it is Islam and, of course, the Glaubenjuden controlled USA.
    I am glad the Americans and their British stooges were defeated.
    If the USA survives I believe that the White Man will lose Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Siberia.
    Europe should socially distance itself 3,000 miles from the USA, be friendly with Russia, end the American occupation and break the power of the Glaubenjuden in Europe.
    Yankee go home!

  12. T.Gilligan
    T.Gilligan says:

    The net outcome for Western nations is yet Afghanis’ being fast-tracked to the UK, with all the usual moralising slogans designed to prey of the altruistic weakness of nimby-liberals with a large injection of moral blackmail: “We should be taking more- they worked for us”. How about placing Afghans in the nearest and safest culturally appropriate country to the one of their genetic heretic?
    In the mid-nineties I had an Afghan who needed to rent a council property. He told me boastfully that he cut the head off a Russian during their occupation of his country. Looking at his statue and adeptness, I could discern this was no hollow brag.

    Greetings Charles, I have the dubious honour of shaking hands with Khodorkovsky when he came to an office in Pall Mall, St.James, London about 6 years.

    • charles frey
      charles frey says:

      Did you ever replace the ring and wristwatch you noticed missing after shaking hands with this unfortunate ?

      • T.Gilligan
        T.Gilligan says:

        Charles, I am not one for decorative accoutrement, and would strongly advise against it London with the new ‘British’ imposing a street tax (mugging) on unwary travellers in the city.
        I detect ‘K’ was trying to flatter me with his oily charm – who knows?

  13. Stig
    Stig says:

    ECC83:
    Who said this wealth can never be used?
    Maybe we don’t understand what the goal is, and that is why we see it as illogical.
    The richest few wealth heading into the stratosphere, stocks at record high (whatever this means), cattle immobilized, marked and beat into submission while our overseers do as they please. Evil is not illogical but misunderstood.

  14. Maverick
    Maverick says:

    I read somewhere that the “Looney left “led by George Galloway Diane Abbot are pushing for western nations to pay reparations to the Taliban.Talk about “Chutzpah”.a triple whammy Tens of thousands of “refugees”,increased opium production and no doubt increasing terror attacks.

    • Dave Bowman
      Dave Bowman says:

      George Galloway is many things – but “looney left “he isn’t. He’s a highly-intelligent Scottish Nationalist who tries very hard to be as balanced as his own one-sided political biases permit him to be. He’s one of the very few talking-heads in Britain today who is still prepared to tell the (half-) truth about the Zionist government of the USA, and Israel’s never-ending genocide and war crimes in Gaza.

      It won’t do him – or us – any good. But it shows the rest of the liars and cowards in Parliament and public life for the spineless scumbags they all are.

      The deranged anti-White racist Diane Abbott needs no comment. She just needs a bullet.

    • Ned J. Casper
      Ned J. Casper says:

      Probably not more opium if theTaliban get their way, but our addicts are as much of the problem as their producers and exporters.
      Anyhow Sleepy Joe has changed the picture, except even more “refugees” on their way. Meanwhile, General “Sofa” Blair of Iraq, aka Phony Tony, still demands global intervention so that resistant cultures can be forced by bomb and bayonet to welcome payola parliaments, TV porn, lesbian lifestyles and usury banking. The millionaire war-monger won’t volunteer himself, of course.
      Two “mistakes”, not one: (i) bringing millions of Muslims into western homelands, and (ii) attacking Muslim millions in their homelands.

  15. anti-technocracy
    anti-technocracy says:

    Maybe:

    What if a deal was struck with China? Per reports I saw, the Taliban have already been recognized by the Chinese and met with them about 2 weeks prior to this embarrassing “withdrawal”. I don’t believe for a minute that this was not planned. There is no way that the Taliban could take back the country so quickly as the USA would have stopped it. So it was planned but Mr. Biden screwed up the withdrawal and now thousands of Americans are stuck there.

    I don’t think the US would have stuck around since 2009 to “save face” after the Chinese snagged the Turkmenistan gas. This is more complex.

    The late Brzezinski laid out why we were there up until a week ago in his “The Grand Chessboard”. Basically, it’s all about location and the role of USA as the main power in the region. That area is pivotal to power because it’s so strategically located. But something happened to change this.

    Israel is screaming for the blood of Iran. And China continues to grow in strength, building a huge alliance. Was there a “deal” struck with China? We’ll leave Afghanistan if you leave us alone when we blow Iran off the map for Israel.

    It’s no secret that Mr. Biden loaded his admin with Jews/Zionists.

    Also, I find it interesting that Rahm Emanuel has just been assigned by Mr. Biden as Ambassador of Japan. Rahm, the ex-IDF soldier, Ex-Chicago Mayor and Chief of Staff to Obama. He always shows up in all the administrations. Except for Trump. But he was involved with the Clintons as well.

  16. Dave Bowman
    Dave Bowman says:

    Suck it up, Joe! You’re the fall guy for decades of failure

    It couldn’t have happened to a nicer corrupt, vicious, lying, worthless, senile Jew-loving retard.

  17. todd hupp
    todd hupp says:

    Folks: Do not overlook the massive US arms sales to Afghanistan.Generally the DOD allows a 33% net profit to the vendor.The equipment was left behind so as not reenter the US DOD inventory : and interfere with new sales going forward.

  18. Chuckles
    Chuckles says:

    I think, perhaps, those who are arguing on this site about the Jews and their possible interaction with China, should maybe look a bit deeper.

    After all, China is (((communist))).

    How, exactly, did that happen?

    We’re never gonna get out of this, with all y’all geniuses tellin’ us what-for…

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