US and Ukraine, Goals in Conflict

To shame NATO and the U.S. more fully and openly into his war, Zelenskyy is accusing reluctant Western nations of being appeasers cut from the same bolt of cloth as Neville Chamberlain at Munich.

Among the nations aiding Ukraine in its resistance to the Russian invasion, America has been foremost. Yet the war interests of our two nations are not identical.

To the U.S., the imperative is that the war be contained, not expanded, and that we not be drawn into a wider war with Russia.

For the independence, territorial integrity and democratic rule of Ukraine, while championed by the U.S., are not vital U.S. interests. None of them justifies a war with Russia that could imperil the security and, if it escalated to nuclear weapons, the very survival of our country.

That America is not “all in” in Ukraine is obvious. Before Feb. 24, the U.S. never brought Ukraine into NATO, never gave it an “Article 5” war guarantee, never agreed to fight alongside it if attacked.

From the first February days of this war, we ruled out U.S. “boots on the ground” or U.S. participation in a “no-fly zone,” which would require U.S. pilots to shoot down Russian planes.

These decisions and declarations about what we would not do testified to the limits of the U.S. commitment to Ukraine, as well as to our reluctance to take serious risks to ourselves on Kyiv’s behalf.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s goal, however, the defeat of the Russian invaders and their expulsion from Ukraine, would require greater support from the U.S. and NATO than he is receiving or is likely to receive.

The U.S. and NATO are willing to supply Ukraine with the weapons to defend themselves and defeat the Russians in battle, but neither NATO nor the U.S. is prepared to fight the Ukrainians’ war for them.

When it comes to the fighting and dying, this is their war, not ours.

To shame NATO and the U.S. more fully and openly into his war, Zelenskyy is accusing reluctant Western nations of being appeasers cut from the same bolt of cloth as Neville Chamberlain at Munich.

What is Zelenskyy saying?

Our cause is Europe’s cause. Our cause is NATO’s cause. Our cause is democracy’s cause. Our cause is the world’s cause. If we go down, we will be only the first to fall to Vladimir Putin’s empire. Others will follow.

Henry Kissinger has said that, in any negotiated settlement, Ukraine will likely have to cede some territory to Russia. Ideally, said Kissinger, “the dividing line should be a return to the status quo” before the 2022 invasion. Russia has held Crimea and parts of Luhansk and Donetsk since 2014.

“Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine,” said Kissinger, “but a new war against Russia itself.”

A livid Zelenskyy replied: “It seems that Mr. Kissinger’s calendar is not 2022, but 1938 … Nobody heard from him then that it was necessary to adapt to the Nazis instead of fleeing them or fighting them.”

These cracks in the coalition backing Ukraine are certain to become more pronounced, as Russia appears to be consolidating control of the Donbas, which Putin has set as his principal goal.

Italy, France and Germany are all in contact with Putin. All are pressing for negotiations. None has insisted on what Zelenskyy has at times demanded: Russia’s surrender of Ukrainian territory it has held since 2014.

East European nations, familiar with Russian rule, echo Zelenskyy in calling for the defeat, humiliation and expulsion of Russia from Ukraine.

When and if a ceasefire comes and negotiations begin, there seems certain to be a fracturing of the coalition backing Ukraine.

For while Russia was defeated in its offensives to capture Kyiv, Kharkiv and Odessa, Moscow has succeeded in capturing Mariupol, the Sea of Azov and the “land bridge” it sought from Russia to Crimea — and appears to be moving toward dominance of the entire Donbas.

Ukraine is also blockaded by Russian warships from exporting its wheat and corn, upon which a number of developing nations depend to feed their populations and avert malnutrition and even famine.

And with Russia making slow but steady gains in the Donbas, Putin does not appear to be holding a weak hand in any negotiations.

With the Ukrainians and Russians exchanging artillery fire in the Donbas, Zelenskyy asked the U.S. for its High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, known as HIMARS.

With strike capabilities of almost 50 miles, this could put Russia itself in range. But U.S. officials say they have assurances from Ukrainian leaders that HIMARS will not be used against Russian territory.

The Kremlin has warned that any nation sending advanced weapons to Ukraine will face harsh repercussions. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has charged the West with declaring “total war” on Russia.

What this suggests is that the war is now generating greater risks and dangers for the U.S. than any additional rewards we might realize from “weakening” Russia with further fighting.

It may be time to tell Zelenskyy not only what we will and will not provide but what we believe are the acceptable terms for a truce.

7 replies
  1. Thaddeus Noble
    Thaddeus Noble says:


    Whose pocket are you in here??

    This Ukraine / Russia FAKE war is nothing but a charade so the JEWS can extort cash and free military hardware from JEWISH infested Gentile countries.

    Russia has the military ability to roll over Ukraine in 24 hours flat out. Three months later they are still wanking off for the JEWSMEDIA propaganda arm.

    The entire scenario stinks of JEW collusion all the way to Capital Hill and the bought and paid for sewage that inhabit it.

    Call it what it REALLY is !! ONE BIG JEWISH SCAM !!!

    • stergios triantafyllou
      stergios triantafyllou says:

      the Jews always did the same. In both the First and the Second World Wars they sold ammunition to both opposing factions.After the war the Jews were the decision-makers through organizations they had created.

  2. Gerry
    Gerry says:

    “Ukraine is also blockaded by Russian warships from exporting its wheat and corn, upon which a number of developing nations depend to feed their populations and avert malnutrition and even famine.”

    The transcript of Putin saying this is not the case at all can be found here:

    They are free to leave any time they wish. The problem though is the mines that were laid by the ukies and the ships sunk in the harbor again by the ukies.

  3. Templar
    Templar says:

    Russia has not attempted to capture Kyiv. Indeed, it has shown maximum restraint in order to avoid collateral damage during a small number of targeted precision attacks. Russia is not interested in occupying western Ukraine. Ensuring the autonomy and security of the Donbas region, a land bridge and water security for Crimea and the military neutrality of Ukraine are Putin’s main objectives.

  4. George Kocan
    George Kocan says:

    While I am it total sympathy with Ukrainians’ desire for freedom from Russian rule, I agree with Buchanan that this war is not in the interests of the US. This is another European war, the kind the Founding Fathers warned against, where Christians/Europeans are killing Christians/Europeans. Who benefits from this war? Certainly, not the US. Yet, the ability of the Powers That Be to sucker Russia into attacking Ukraine continues to amaze me.

  5. Simple Man
    Simple Man says:

    I am not that bright, my IQ has been tested professionally to be 90, so maybe one of the smart TOO members can explain this to me. Regarding the evolutionary genetics of Russia, can someone explain their evolutionary genetics to explain their relationship with the Ashkenazi people. If my history is correct, the Ashkenazim has several times waged war against Russia in the last 100 or so years, and in each case, many Russians died, but no Ashkenazi people lost their lives. For example, Ashkenazim waged a war against Russia in the Bolshevik Revolution, and 20 million Russians were killed. However, the number of Ashkenazi people who lost their lives was: Zero. Next, After Russia made a partnership with Assad and Syria, the Ashkenazim against launched a war against Russia in Syria. My understanding is that around one thousand Russian soldiers died in Syria, but the number of Ashkenazim who lost their lives is: Zero. Next, the Ashkenazim again launched a war against Russia in Ukraine, which is the current war going on. So far, several thousand Russians have been killed by the Ashkenazim. Thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed by the Ashkenazim in Ukraine, and the Ashkenzim have launched hundreds of missiles/bombs into Western Russia, killing a few thousand Russian civilians in the last several months. However, the number of Ashkenazim that have lost their lives in this war is: Zero. The Russian government has made sure that not a single Ashkenazi person lose their lives – this is priority number one for them. In fact, before Russia invaded Ukraine, they sent a message to the billionaire Ukrainian Ashkenazi oligarchs to leave Ukraine so they can be safe. had an article where they showed how the Ashkenazi Oligarchs in Ukraine left Ukraine a few weeks before the war started. So, here is my question: what can we say about the evolutionary genetics of the Russian race when in all their wars against the Ashkenazim, millions of Russians have died, but no Ashkenazi person has lost their lives because the Russians have put policy into place that only millions of Russians should die, but every Russian should give their lives to ensure that not a single Ashkenazi person should lose their life? Does this mean that Russian evolutionary genetics have now failed in the evolutionary wars and Russians will very soon go extinct and be replaced by the genetically superior Ashkenazim?

    One thing I find interesting is that the Russian government has passed a law making it a crime to point out the fact that they are at war with the Ashekenazim. Instead, the Russian government uses proxies such as they are at war with the “west,” or with “Washington,” or with “NATO,” or with “Neo-Nazis,” and so forth. What does this say about the evolutionary genetics of the Russian race? My speculation is that this shows that the Russian genetics have completely degenerated via dysgenics and mutational load, and they will very soon be destroy by the Ashkenazim. But, I am too unintelligent to really understand this, my IQ is only 90. Can the TOO members please explain to me what is going on?

    Some have speculated that Russia was just bluffing about using nukes against the Ashkenazim. It seems to me that the Ashkenazim have also concluded that Russia is just bluffing. As such, they have saturated Ukraine with weapons, such as long range missiles. Soon, I speculate that the Ashkenazim will provide Ukraine with biological/chemical/nuclear weapons to eliminate the entire Russian population. I speculate that Russians as an ethnicity will very soon go extinct. And interestingly, the Russian government themselves have passed laws making it a crime for any Russian to support preserving the Russian race, thus making the job even easier for the Ashkenazim to eliminate all Russians. What does this all say about current Russian evolutionary genetics?

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