CDC: Vaxxed and Unvaxxed on Equal Footing

On August 19th, in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), among the most shocking statements ever made by any government agency in  US history was issued by the CDC. In its “Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19 on Individual Persons, Communities, and Health Care Systems — United States, August (19) 2022,” the CDC stated:

CDC’s COVID-19 prevention recommendations no longer differentiate based on a person’s vaccination status because breakthrough infections occur, though they are generally mild, and persons who have had COVID-19 but are not vaccinated have some degree of protection against severe illness from their previous infection.

Stating at this point that the recommendations for vaccinated and unvaccinated people are the same may be among the most shocking statement ever made in US history, given the absolute frenzy the CDC made of the urgency to get vaccinated over the last year and a half. It started inflicting covid vaccines on the elderly and “immune compromised,” then urged vaccines for pregnant “people,” adolescents, and eventually even children as young as five.

Lives and careers and health and families were destroyed when unvaccinated people were expelled from their jobs, prevented from entering public places, refused the right to travel, excluded from family gatherings, demonized as unpatriotic “anti-vaxxers,” and other tyrannies over their lives. But now the CDC is saying the vaccinated and unvaccinated are to be treated the same!

Why? The CDC gives 2 reasons: we are seeing “breakthrough” cases, essentially meaning the vaccines do not work to prevent infection—which the CDC has indirectly already said whenever it claims the vaccines only reduce symptoms—and that unvaccinated people who have had covid already and recovered have “some degree” of natural immunity.

“Breakthrough Cases”
This is astonishing. Let us see the first reason again:

“breakthrough infections occur, though they are generally mild…”

Under section “Vaccine Breakthrough Infections,” CDC says:

COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalization, and death. However, since vaccines are not 100% effective at preventing infection, some people who are up to date with the recommended vaccines will still get COVID-19. This is called a breakthrough infection. When people who are vaccinated develop symptoms of COVID-19, they tend to experience less severe symptoms than people who are unvaccinated.

This clearly claims that vaccinated and unvaccinated people experience different symptoms. But now the CDC is admitting that they have no different recommendations for vaccinated people than unvaccinated because unvaxxed people may have recovered and now have natural immunity. Vaccinated and unvaccinated people are considered the same now, according to the CDC. And one reason is, breakthrough cases!

The entire public health and governmental media apparatus has recently been featuring “Breakthrough Cases” in our faces, with such prominent examples as (supposedly) fully boosted Biden and Fauci, and now even the Jewish CEO of Pfizer, Albert Bourla. Are we seeing enough “breakthrough cases” that it appears there never was anything to “break through,” in the form of vaccine-induced protection? What barrier to infection is there to “break through”? Perhaps nothing.  As we will see, the CDC mostly asserts that vaccines reduce symptoms, not that they prevent contracting or transmitting disease. This is just one of the many internal walk-backs of the CDC.

The CDC’s “Covid Data Tracker” has a section which asks “Want more information on Covid-19 vaccine breakthrough cases?” I answered yes, and clicked the link to see what data the CDC provides on breakthrough cases on its page “The Possibility of Covid-19 After Vaccination: Breakthrough Infections.” The answer was none. I only got a generic explanation of what a breakthrough case means, and recommendations to get more vaccines. It included another direct condemnation of the “effectiveness” of vaccines themselves: “People who get vaccine breakthrough infections can spread COVID-19 to other people.”


CDC monitors reported vaccine breakthrough infections to better understand patterns of COVID-19 among people who are vaccinated and unvaccinated. The latest rates of COVID-19 cases and deaths by vaccination status are available on the CDC COVID Data Tracker.

The Tracker cycles back to the first page, where no real data on breakthrough cases is provided. The numbers and percentages of breakthrough cases remains cryptic.

Naturally Acquired Immunity

The 2nd reason the CDC gives for why vaccinated and unvaccinated people are now issued the same recommendations is this:

Persons who have had COVID-19 but are not vaccinated have some degree of protection against severe illness from their previous infection.

Recall that in July 2021, the Jewish CDC Director Rochelle Walensky used the phrase “a pandemic of the unvaccinated” in her news conference speech. All mainstream media reported on this and magnified the message that we were afflicted with a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” Choose WebMD, CNN, ABC, CNN, Yahoo! News and more, here. They all say almost exactly the same thing.

The following statement or similar was included in almost all main media reports: “White House COVID-19 coordinator Jeff Zients (Jewish) said four states accounted for 40% of new cases last week—one in five coming from Florida.” Florida was targeted for defamation because Governor Ron Desantis was defying CDC recommendations and rejecting covid lockdown policies, mask and vaccine mandates.

Earlier in the covid timeline, the World Health Organization (WHO) actually changed the definition of “Herd Immunity” to exclude naturally immune people through natural exposure, and retained only the vaccine-induced immunity contribution to herd immunity. On June 9th 2020, the WHO defined Herd Immunity on its “Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19): Serology” page as: “the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection.” By November 13th, on essentially the same page (now further titled “Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Serology, antibodies and immunity“), the WHO declared “‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.” WHO defended the change of definition with this line: “Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.”

If any credit can be given to the CDC at all, it did not change its own definition of what it terms “Community Immunity,” but retained the definition which included both naturally acquired immunity and vaccine-induced immunity as contributing to Community Immunity.

On November 12th, 2021, almost exactly one year since the WHO definition change, the Los Angeles Times published an article titled “CDC shifts pandemic goals away from reaching herd immunity.” It states: “Now the herd is restless. And experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have set aside herd immunity as a national goal.” The main reasons are given by Dr. Jefferson Jones, “a medical officer on the CDC’s COVID-19 Epidemiology Task Force”:

Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus, Jones noted. Recent evidence has also made clear that the immunity provided by vaccines can wane in a matter of months. The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread. (bold added)

Here a medical officer on the CDC’s Epidemiology Task Force admits that the covid vaccines do not prevent transmission. Now the CDC is saying that natural immunity is valid, and in the context of this statement by the CDC’s Jones, it appears even more valid than vaccination!

This should enrage hundreds of millions of people in our nation, especially those who got vaccinated thinking they were doing the only thing they could to produce what CDC calls Community Immunity, save their loved ones and end the pandemic. Even more outrageous, those who believe they contracted covid and recovered fine, but were still urged and coerced to get vaccinated, should be apoplectic. The CDC is now essentially admitting that they were wrong and natural immunity is once again acceptable and even preferred. It is unconscionable for the CDC to change its position on naturally acquired immunity, after having pushed vaccines as the only way to stop the pandemic.

Covid Vaccines only reduce symptoms, not prevent transmission

Here are more statements about vaccines—and now also natural acquired immunity—only preventing severe symptoms, from the CDC’s latest MMWR, “official Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19 on Individual Persons, Communities, and Health Care Systems — United States, August (19) 2022”:

“Medically significant illness, death, and health care system strain can be reduced through vaccination and therapeutics to prevent severe illness…”

“high levels of vaccine- and infection-induced immunity…have substantially reduced the risk for medically significant COVID-19 illness (severe acute illness and post–COVID-19 conditions) and associated hospitalization and death.”

“The risk for medically significant illness…is considerably reduced by immunity derived from vaccination, previous infection, or both.”

“CDC recommends a strategic approach to minimizing the impact of COVID-19 on health and society that relies on vaccination and therapeutics to prevent severe illness.”

“Efforts to expand access to vaccination and therapeutics … should be intensified to reduce the risk for medically significant illness and death.”

All these statements refer to the vaccines’ as well as naturally acquired immunity’s ability to reduce severe symptoms and prevent hospitalization and death outcomes. None declare the vaccines are capable of preventing contracting or transmitting disease or viruses.

The following are all from the document’s “Vaccines and Therapeutics to Reduce Medically Significant Illness” section:

COVID-19 vaccines are highly protective against severe illness and death and provide a lesser degree of protection against asymptomatic and mild infection.

It is still talking about protecting from severe outcomes, though the second part of this statement is confusing. It cannot be claiming to reduce harmful outcomes from asymptomatic and mild infections, because there are none. And how do they really know that the vaccines reduce harmful outcomes when you acknowledge that the previously infected-but-unvaccinated are also unlikely to have harmful outcomes?

Receipt of a primary series alone, in the absence of being up to date with vaccination* through receipt of all recommended booster doses, provides minimal protection against infection and transmission (3,6). Being up to date with vaccination provides a transient period of increased protection against infection and transmission after the most recent dose, although protection can wane over time.

This document is the first time the CDC clearly claims vaccination prevents infection and transmission. Protection fades fast, though, and is only significant in double-boosted people for a short time. The first footnote #3 goes to a CDC study of October 2021, titled “Science Brief: SARS-CoV-2 Infection-induced and Vaccine-induced Immunity.” Some key quotes:

“Although comprehensive, it is neither a formal systematic review nor meta-analysis.”

“Data are presently insufficient to determine an antibody titer threshold that indicates when an individual is protected from infection.”

“At this time, there is no FDA-authorized or approved test that providers or the public can use to reliably determine whether a person is protected from infection.”

“Multiple studies have shown that antibody titers correlate with protection at a population level, but protective titers at the individual level remain unknown.”

“There are insufficient data to extend the findings related to infection-induced immunity at this time to persons with very mild or asymptomatic infection or children.”

The CDC admits all that it does not know in its reference document for this footnote. Its original statement in the MMWR is thus poorly supported.

Footnote #6 shows the “Covid Data Tracker,” including the “COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Monthly Update.” This source only includes updates on vaccine effectiveness up to the end of June. It states: “Protection is highest in adults who receive a booster dose.” Then it says: “No new CDC studies were published in June on COVID-19 effectiveness among adults.” As of June, adults administered one dose of the Johnson & Johnson/Janssen vaccine had less than 18% effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infection, two weeks to a month after injection. Many other effectiveness rates are displayed in the complex chart, covering many age groups, different vaccines (all for covid), and over different time frames. The CDC emphasized in the title of the chart that these are all “estimates.” Many are under 50% and all are under 100% of course.

Returning to the MMWR from the beginning of this article, we see this statement:

“The rates of COVID-19–associated hospitalization and death are substantially higher among unvaccinated adults than among those who are up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccination, particularly adults aged ≥65 years (5,7)”

I opened the links in the footnotes CDC provides here. The statement is a complete lie if based upon the study CDC cites, because the study says nothing about vaccination rates, only disability rates. It is titled “COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Among Medicare Beneficiaries With and Without Disabilities — United States, January 1, 2020–November 20, 2021.”

I searched the document for vaccine-related information and found that the study never actually looked at vaccination status of these disabled subjects: “vaccination coverage was not considered in this analysis because of limitations in administrative reporting and data; persons with disabilities are less likely to receive COVID-19 vaccination than are persons without disabilities.” So they are inferring that negative outcomes in this group are partly the result of not being vaccinated, even though they acknowledge this group has many comorbidities, such as diabetes, obesity, etc.  Weak.

It was a recommendation to make vaccines accessible to elderly and disabled people to prevent severe illness and death (not prevent infection or transmission). It says nothing—NOTHING!—about unvaccinated people having higher incidence of death and hospitalization. Did CDC think no one would check?

The second footnote here only links back to the same document.

“Emerging evidence suggests that vaccination before infection also provides some protection against post–COVID-19 conditions,† and that vaccination among persons with post–COVID-19 conditions might help reduce their symptoms (8).” Both parts of this statement refer to reducing symptoms or “conditions,” not infection or transmission.

The link here goes to a meta study out of Britain, that examined results of 15 other studies on “The effectiveness of vaccination against long COVID.” It declares in most cases that vaccination improves symptoms of “long covid,” although they note that “All studies were observational, so the results may be from differences other than vaccination, and there was large heterogeneity between studies in the definition of long COVID,” and “there is a risk of bias across all studies due to differences in people who were vaccinated and unvaccinated, the measurement of outcomes, and in the selection of participants.”

Moreover, “it is unclear whether vaccination of previously unvaccinated people with long COVID is more likely to improve or worsen long COVID symptoms,” and “There were, however, some cases in all studies who reported a worsening in symptoms after vaccination.” And “In 3 of the 5 studies reporting on symptom changes following vaccination of people with long COVID, there was a higher proportion of people with long COVID who reported unchanged symptoms following vaccination (up to 70%) than people whose symptoms improved or worsened.”

The results are thus unclear; in some cases, symptoms got worse after vaccination, and the definition of “long COVID” varied among the studies. All we know is that symptoms were either unchanged, worse, or better. And there is no way to be sure that those who got better improved because of the vaccines.

Returning again to the MMWR, the CDC makes two statements using the phrase “irrespective of vaccination status.” “When implemented, screening testing strategies should include all persons, irrespective of vaccination status.” And: “Persons who have had recent confirmed or suspected exposure to an infected person should wear a mask for 10 days around others when indoors in public and should receive testing ≥5 days after exposure (or sooner, if they are symptomatic), irrespective of their vaccination status.”

Just yesterday I heard an ad on the radio. It is recommended to still get boosted with covid vaccines in order to reduce symptoms and relieve our hospital system of patient burden. This ad was paid for by funds from the Dept of Health and Human Services (which includes the CDC). Our tax money is paying for government-issued advertisements on behalf of the pharmaceutical industry to sell more vaccines. The point is: they admit now that the vaccines do not prevent contracting or transmitting disease. The CDC seems to have stopped also saying the opposite, that everyone must get vaccinated to stop the spread. Is this now damage control?

Public trust in the CDC is now so low that only 33% of people 50 and older are double-boosted and less than 4% of children 5 to 11 recommended for vaccination have received a single “booster.” Boosters prove that vaccines are a failed technology.

But despite all that, they just approved a  new omicron-specific booster before being “fully tested” on humans. I’m sure that will turn this disaster around. Or maybe not. The old saying that “if you’re in a hole, stop digging” comes to mind.

The CDC contradicts itself so often, public trust in the agency is near absent. With its shocking statement last week that vaccinated and unvaccinated people are issued the same covid prevention recommendations, distrust is turning into active contempt and outrage. Lawsuits are expected against the CDC over this, en masse. Anyone who subjected himself to a covid vaccination based on the CDC’s prior recommendations—which became coercsions–has a strong case now. Even the unvaccinated have strong claims against the CDC.

56 replies
  1. Captainchaos
    Captainchaos says:

    The idea that the mRNA covid vaccines are in the main a killshot or will render you sterile is delusional rubbish fit only for Qanon-tier retards. Funny how Israel had its population aggressively vaccinated. Was it part of the plot of the Jewish oligarchs that rule the West to kill and sterilize their co-ethnics? Conspiratarded buffoons can’t be bothered with such questions!

    PS. Yes, I put my money where my mouth is and got vaccinated (Moderna).

    • RockaBoatus
      RockaBoatus says:

      “Yes, I put my money where my mouth is and got vaccinated (Moderna)” – That doesn’t sound a like a good thing to boast about, particularly when even the CDC is conceding the ineffectiveness of the vaccines and the huge numbers of people who been seriously injured and died as a result. The Covid narrative and vaccine efficacy has changed repeatedly over the past two years, so there’s every reason to be skeptical. None of our government officials are to be trusted (with rare exception).

      You mock the “conspiratorial buffoons” who oppose the Covid vaccines and, admittedly, there are indeed some strange notions that some are peddling. At the same time, why should we trust any of these people when the vaccine trials were rushed and when there are dubious origins of the virus itself? A good many of those involved in the WEF believe in population control and that we have far too many useless eaters, so why would it be wrong to be suspicious of their motives and the vaccines they’re desperate to force upon all of us? The fact that the MSM and social media outlets de-platformed anyone who dared to question the vaccines should be a major indicator that something’s not right. Look also at all the crazy things the government did in order to make people take the jab.

      More than that, responsible critics of the vaccines have seriously investigated the mRNA technology and have blown quite a number of holes in it. When even the originator of the mRNA seriously questions what is being done, there is good cause to re-think what the government’s intentions are.

      How many lies must the American people subject themselves to before they call baloney on the entire narrative?

      • Captainchaos
        Captainchaos says:

        If the WEF wanted to implement a plan of inflicting premature death and sterilization on the people of the West why wouldn’t they have chosen a vastly less conspicuous method of doing so, rather than a highly publicized campaign for vaccination? Why not just secretly and quietly put some noxious chemicals in the drinking water? Such question never occur to conspiratards, because they have their heads so far up their asses that even day looks like night to them.

        • Weaver
          Weaver says:

          It doesnt matter about any conspiracy. The tech itself is dangerous, and there are many billions in profit to be made selling it.

          Great profit is made from Ukraine just as it was from Afghanistan. Look at the science, not the conspiracies. I think none of yall are reading the actual medical studies.

          You didnt even bother to look up how viral vector or mrna vaccines work.

          Ivermectin and HCQ both work, and vitamins work very well for most people. But there’s no money in that.

    • Emicho
      Emicho says:

      But what makes you think the Israelis got the same shot as the goyim? Because they said so? And anyway, since when has the Jewish elite gave a damn about Jewish peasants? If the Israeli ‘vaxx’ crippled the fertility of the Jewish masses, if it straight killed a bunch of them, ruied the health of thousands and took years off the rest, would the Jewish elite lose any sleep over this?
      Christians have had intermittent misery inflicted by elite, Satanic Jews through the centuries, everyday Jews have had it non-stop.
      Official figures state there was zero excess deaths anywhere during the ‘deadly’ pandemic, but deaths shot up as soon as the the clot-shots were rolled out.
      Though these numbers could still be garbage, it wouldn’t surprise me, they’ve deliberately wrecked any confidence in everything, all the better to terrify everyone.
      I think there never has been any such thing as Covid19. They haven’t isolated it, they haven’t isolated any virus.
      When they announced normal season flu deaths disappeared to be replaced by plague deaths, well, if you believe that, you really should call it a day and find a new hobby.
      Though I reckon they probably did hit the Chinese and Iranians with a bio-weapon, it wouldn’t be the first time.
      They almost certainly knocked-off a bunch of old folks in Britain with Midazolam, and in New York etc with Remdesivir, to create an illusion of a crisis.
      But this was just to kick off the Covid hoax.
      If you haven’t realised at this late stage that everything ZOG pushes at the top of it’s lungs is a hoax, you really need to do some hard thinking.

      And “Qanon-tier retards” is pretty insulting. Especially coming from someone who puts Jewish poison in his veins. (Though I salute you for at least admitting it)
      Q folks are at least open-minded truth-seekers, if somewhat naive, but who are wise enough not to believe MSM bull shit.
      Plus they were also hit with the most sophisticated and cruellest phy-op since the Bolshevik’s Operation Trust.

    • Weaver
      Weaver says:

      You failed the IQ test then. Don’t get another vaccination that uses mrna or viral vector technology. When the leading virologists are against something, you should look into why. I wrote a list in the other thread of the danger areas of the vaccines.

      It doesn’t matter about proving that you “believe” nor standing up to be counted, as if you knew enough to even have an opinion. The data shows you wrong.

      Whoever tricked you, you should see as a fed and never read that person again.

    • quasi_verbatim
      quasi_verbatim says:

      Then you failed the intelligence test. Be sure to take your boosters, particularly the new bivalent “SpikeMax.”

    • Chris
      Chris says:

      taken from….by retard

      I don’t have any medical or scientific expertise, but from the beginning nothing about the official COVID-19 narrative has made sense to me. The following are some questions I have concerning the Covid-19 pandemic:

      If the masks work—Why the six feet?

      If the six feet works—Why the masks?

      If both of the above work—Why the lockdowns?

      If all three of the above work—Why the vaccines?

      If the vaccines are safe—Why protect them with a no liability clause?

      If the vaccines are safe—Why not test them on animals before using them on humans?

      If the vaccines are safe—Why did Tiffany Dover, a healthy 30-year-old nurse, faint 17 minutes after receiving a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine? Is Tiffany Dover dead? Why are so many other people having adverse reactions and dying from the vaccines?

      If it normally takes 10 to 15 years to develop vaccines—How were the COVD-19 vaccines safely developed in less than a year?

      If the vaccines are safe—Why not fully disclose all of the ingredients in the vaccines?

      If the vaccines are safe—Why did Dr. Andreas Noack say the graphene particles are extremely dangerous? Why did Dr. Noack die shortly after releasing his video? Was Dr. Noack murdered?

      If successful vaccines have never been developed for other coronaviruses—Why should we expect successful vaccines for this coronavirus?

      If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why has it never been isolated?

      If SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated—How can effective vaccines be developed?

      If SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated–How can SARS-CoV-2 variants be determined to exist?

      If the RT-PCR test works—Why so many false positives?

      If Kary Mullis, the inventor of the RT-PCR test who conveniently died in August 2019, said his test shouldn’t be used to diagnose infectious diseases—Why use it to detect SARS-CoV-2?

      If the RT-PCR test works—Why did samples from papaya fruit and a goat sent to a testing lab by Tanzanian President John Magufuli, using fictitious human names and ages, test positive for SARS-CoV-2?

      If there was a COVID epidemic—Why were there so many empty hospitals?

      If large numbers of people were dying from SARS-CoV-2—Why were so many fake causes of death put on the death certificates? Were flu deaths being recharacterized as COVID-19 deaths?

      If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why give doctors financial incentives to diagnose SARS-CoV-2?

      If the official COVID-19 narrative is defensible—Why censor people who dispute this narrative? Why not debate them instead?

      If the official COVID-19 narrative is defensible—Why are national leaders who contest this narrative, such as Haitian President Jovenel Moise, Tanzanian President John Magufuli, and Burundi President Pierre Nkurunziza, dying at relatively young ages and being replaced by leaders who support the official COVID-19 narrative?

      If the vaccines work—Why did U.S. President Joe Biden say that the unvaccinated pose a threat to the vaccinated?

      If the vaccines work—Why are so may vaccinated people allegedly still getting COVID?

      • Emicho
        Emicho says:

        Good comment Chris, putting these things together, that’s real yeomen’s work.
        On other thing, we were told all the new variants were to be given Greek Alphabet names.
        We got the ‘Beta’ variant so they could have a good laugh about ‘beta-males’ lining up for their jag like lemmings lining up cliff-side.
        Then they hit us with ‘Omicron’ (obviously they left unsaid why we jumped straight to that one)
        But the answer is obvious: To the elites, it’s absolutely hilarious because it’s a perfect anagram of ‘moronic’.
        They find this so funny, they cannot bear to change it. It tells you everything about how they feel about us.
        (Well, not me. I’ve never believed in their hoax, and I’d rather inject dog shit than a Jewish concoction that hurts you & messes with your genes)

      • Weaver
        Weaver says:

        From the other thread, I wrote:

        * The lipid nanoparticles are toxic.
        * The spike protein taken from the Covid virus is toxic.
        * Artificial mrna can last for a very long time (spike found months later)
        *Spike can be found in unwanted parts of the body.
        *The immune system can learn to attack body cells which are producing the spike.
        *The immune system can be temporarily weakened after vaccination.
        *”Original antigenic sin”: The immune system is trained on the spike and not on the complete virus as with natural immunity.
        *Blood clots

        To explain an example of how the vaccine can be dangerous, if you get injected, the spike can then form in a blood vessel wall. Your immune system then attacks, and this creates damage to your blood vessel. After repeated vaccinations, you’ve had many parts of your body attacked. The damage is cumulative.

        Pregnancy and reproduction are two huge concerns with the vaccine.

        Great sources:
        rwmalonemd on gettr
        doctors4covidethics website

  2. RockaBoatus
    RockaBoatus says:

    I know I shouldn’t be, but I’m still amazed at times at how many seemingly educated people voluntarily took the Covid jab. Even though the U.S. federal government, its various institutions, and media have proven to be completely untrustworthy, massive numbers of Americans still chose to believe them when it came to the efficacy of the vaccines. Perhaps it’s an obvious point, but this is a clear indicator that most people are sheep with little critical discernment. Americans have every right to not trust – and to even despise the Washington establishment – and yet they fell for one of the greatest deceptions ever foisted on the American people.

    Although I believe the Covid ‘virus’ is real, I don’t believe the media’s narrative of how it originated nor in the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines. There appears to be a host of sinister motives behind it all.

    Yet doesn’t common sense alone tell you that when some new product or technology arrives, the smart person waits until all the bugs and errors are worked out? People do this all the time when it comes to new products, machinery, and technology – and yet when it came to their own health, they were more than willing to believe what the government and media told them.

    Even before I knew anything about the ineffectiveness of the Covid vaccine trials, including the persons behind it all at Big Pharma and the WEF, I told myself that I was going to first wait and see if there were any complications from the vaccines before taking it. Within a very short time, I discovered there were numerous serious and even deadly consequences in submitting to the jab. As I read more about it from a variety of sources, it became apparent that there were many valid reasons for not taking it.

    Why wasn’t something as simple and basic as just waiting and trying to find more information about the vaccines before submitting to it the response of most people? It was because most Americans, I my opinion, are trusting of their government (even though such trust has been eroding over the past few years). People are also trusting of the medical establishment which in large measure is simply an arm of the government.

    What’s also disturbing is how many Americans were indifferent to the growing mountain of evidence against the vaccines, including the origin of the virus which appears to have been a bio-lab leak and not from Wuhan’s wet market as the government and media claimed. None of this caused a mass awakening and distrust of the government among Americans which should have been the response of every intelligent and thoughtful citizen.

    The country has been dumbed down so badly that this kind of mass critical thinking is nearly impossible in today’s America.

    • Captainchaos
      Captainchaos says:

      Did someone you know get covid and die as a result? Someone I know did.

      Did someone you know get vaccinated, subsequently get covid, and experience only mild symptoms? There are people I know personally who fit those criteria.

      I was personally vaccinated and experienced no symptoms other than joint soreness the following day.

      Yes I know, anecdotal and not statistical, but rhetorically good none the less. There is some sub-rational psychological process at work here which makes conspiratards believe things that are patently obvious bullshit. Perhaps Kevin MacDonald can enlighten us on the subject.

      • Not Important
        Not Important says:

        How do you know they wouldn’t have gotten mild symptoms anyways?

        Getting the obviously worthless and dangerous “vaccine” was, at best, a poor choice. I’d stop worrying about trying to convince yourself and others otherwise and start looking into ways to salvage your health.
        Or are you enjoying the endless “boosters” as well?

        • Captainchaos
          Captainchaos says:

          I’m in perfect health, you pathetic bozo.

          Did you know that the Japanese political class is involved in the Jooish plot to kill and sterilize the Japanese people via covid vaccination? Yes, the Japs bought billions of dollars worth of vaccines from American manufacturers. It turns out treachery knows no bounds!

          Here’s the thing: what the lot of you needs is to have all these conspiracy pacifiers vigorously slapped from your drooling, slack-jawed mouths so that you will focus on something useful, namely Red State secession.

      • Emicho
        Emicho says:

        Capt. Chaos: “Did someone you know get covid and die as a result? Someone I know did.”
        How do you know they died of Covid? Because they said so? How do you know it wasn’t the flu? Or 100,000 other things? Might it have been Remdesivir?
        I never got ‘vaxxed'(it’s not a vaccine, yet they call it a vaccine, this really inspires confidence . . . . ), and I never got ‘Covid19’ either. And I worked in a public place through the whole hoax.
        Although plenty of people I work with have been vaxxxed and boosted and obsessive mask wearing and have ‘tested positive’ for ‘Covid’ three or four times, and now seem to pick up every sniffle and bug going.
        So from my personal experience it seems these injections have wrecked their immune systems, which in my view is exactly what they were supposed to do.
        My last two grandparents have died in the last three years, both mid-90’s, and as weak and vulnerable as it’s possible to be and still be alive at the end, yet Covid wasn’t strong enough to knock out either of them.
        Can anyone name one single aspect of this hoax that officialdom has told the truth or been consistent about? We could all write a triple volume book on their lies. If they have been honest about even one thing, I’d like to hear it.
        We live in the era of the hoax. It would go against their nature if they told the truth, doubtless they cannot physically do it.

      • Karl Haemers
        Karl Haemers says:

        I suspect, with a name such as “Captainchaos” and the vile provocateur language used, he is a Neo-Communist troll.
        Still, his comments can be useful to our discussion.
        How do we know anyone “got” covid? The PRC procedure cannot be used to diagnose disease. Symptoms (a “presumed case”) are the same as a dozen other conditions.
        We don’t need a professional evolutionary psychologist to explain the “sub-rational psychological process at work” here. People have an innate drive for safety and self-defense, coupled to their innate and learned bullshit detectors. Mystery solved.
        Most of those who got vaxxed, then “got covid”, had mild symptoms, because mild symptoms is by far the most common severity of the condition, whatever it is. How many died of the vax but whose deaths were attributed to “covid”? Too many.

    • Emicho
      Emicho says:

      I sympathise, but I don’t believe such a thing as “mass critical thinking” is possible(perhaps not even desirable) in any society, at any time.
      I think many got the shot out of patriotism, to help their people and their country, and not simply out of trust for the institutions.
      It’s all God’s plan anyway.
      Black people’s mass awareness of things like the Tuskegee experiment meant much less blacks got the poison shots, because they sensibly don’t trust the white man’s weird potions.
      Magic Johnston would have carried on taking Fauci’s diabolical AZT, and he would have croaked of *AIDS* the way Freddie Mercury did.
      Maybe all this misery will turn out to be a big learning experience for when in the future the want to inject us all with something even worse.

      Long live the Purebloods, God help the vaxxed.

      • RockaBoatus
        RockaBoatus says:

        “I sympathise, but I don’t believe such a thing as “mass critical thinking” is possible (perhaps not even desirable) in any society, at any time” – True, and perhaps “mass critical thinking” wasn’t the best way of expressing it. I was thinking more or less of a general consensus among the greater number of people in the U.S. that causes them to seriously question the narrative and motives of those pushing the clot-shot. As dumbed-down Americans are, even this is highly unlikely.

        Perhaps such a general consensus will occur when the federal government reaches peak levels of tyranny and hypocrisy? It would be akin to the general awareness of the Russian people during the last days of the Soviet Union in which they mouthed the lies and platitudes of their government, but very few if any actually believed it. Either way, good points.

      • Karl Haemers
        Karl Haemers says:

        “Black people’s mass awareness of things like the Tuskegee experiment meant much less blacks got the poison shots, because they sensibly don’t trust the white man’s weird potions.”
        I am not convinced of this. How likely is it that blacks generally have a broader awareness of such obscure history as the Tuskegee experiment than whites? Whites should have as much or more of a distrust of weird potions, since the first mass mind control experiments were conducted on an unknowing population of a French town, who were slipped a potion of ergot, a precursor to synthetic LSD.
        I hope you are putting *AIDS* in this manner because you don’t believe in any “AIDS”. Freddie Mercury most likely died as so many other homosexual sodomite men died, of their excessive lifestyle which gave them real STDs, immune suppression through use of amyl nitrate poppers, over-use of anti-biotics, poisoning from “recreational” drugs, and other dysfunctional lifestyle behaviors. No “AIDS” virus needed. Of course the illusion that they had to take AZT, originally a chemotherapy drug (ie. poison) only contributed to their deaths.
        Then it was attributed to “AIDS”! It’s the same playbook when ventilators, midazolam and remdesevir are killing people. It must be covid!

    • Anne C
      Anne C says:

      “I’m still amazed at times at how many seemingly educated people voluntarily took the Covid jab.”

      I share your amazement, RockaBoatus. One contributor to the “dumbing down” of our society you refer to might be the divide between the left and right hemispheres of our brains. Many of today’s “educated” people seem to be left-brain dominated and this may be contributing in a big way to our collective demise.

      I recently came across a couple of substack articles that provide some interesting food for thought on this matter. Essentially, they are exploring the work of psychiatrist Iain McGilchrist. The basic argument is “wholistic right brain thinking” helps one see through cons like the covid narrative; “reductionist left brain thinking” steers us right through the gates.

      Here’s a quote from one of the articles (John Carter’s substack that gives the gist of the differences between how we think with our left and right brains:

      “… it is the right brain’s function to maintain a coherent, large-scale, empirically driven, and accurate model of reality. The right brain does not prioritize consistency: if new data presents itself that violates the existing model, the right brain will happily accept the novel datum and update the model. At the same time, the right brain doesn’t bother itself overmuch about the details of the world. It’s the big picture that concerns it: not the parts, but rather the whole that contains them.

      By contrast, the left brain’s function is to break reality down into its components, in order to more effectively discard that which is irrelevant to a given purpose and focus on that which ‘matters’. As part of this task, the left brain is a model-builder par excellence. It specializes in getting rid of extraneous detail in order to build simplified models of reality that can relatively quickly and easily provide useful heuristic predictions. As such, the left brain is rather in love with its models, and indeed seems to ascribe greater reality to the model than to the reality. Since the left brain is much better at discarding details it considers to be irrelevant in order to avoid unnecessarily complicating the simplicity of its beloved models, it is entirely comfortable simply ignoring facts that are inconsistent with the models.”

      Carter also links out to another interesting substack on the same topic here:

      If you want to dive right into the original source of all this info, Iain McGilchrists’s 800+ page tome, “The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World”, is available here:

      • Raeto West
        Raeto West says:

        No offence; don’t get too excited by the supposed left-right brain divide. Many years ago it was regarded as unproven and the brain still isn’t understood. The idea that part of the brain maintains a wonderful cogent model of the world makes little sense; consider how few people have any grasp of Jews, science, the effects of communication etc etc

  3. Gerry
    Gerry says:

    Had to visit an ICU to visit a sibling and was rendered speechless, why? For a pandemic it seemed like a perfectly normal day? I left the hospital that day with questions too many questions.

    But got the shock of my life today though with the strange videos of people apparently healthy at train stations, street, buses, and even one homemaker cooking a meal etc in China collapsing to the ground for no apparent reason?

    More Boosters!

  4. Captainchaos
    Captainchaos says:

    Off topic but germane nonetheless.

    The best way for a decisive mass of more or less right thinking White people in America to achieve political autonomy from ZOG is via Red State secession. This should not be attempted until a coalition of Red States that is large enough and powerful enough to pull it off peacefully and humanely has been constructed. Under this scenario, it would be suicidal FOR ZOG to oppose said secession, and not the other way around. You want goyim in high places to prove willing to become turncoats and turf the Jews out? That is how it can be done. That way and no other way, so far as I can see.

    Put aside your fear, lay down your petty skepticism and let’s start trying to save our race.

  5. Captainchaos
    Captainchaos says:

    Off topic yet germane nonetheless.

    National Socialism taken as a whole cannot be morally rehabilitated. The Nazis murdered tens of thousands of their fellow Germans – the mentally ill and physically handicapped. In Himmler’s 1943 Posen speech he speaks of the murder of Jews – hundreds at a time – and the confiscation of their valuables. He speaks of murdering their children so that those children would not seek revenge against Germans for the murder of their parents in coming generations. Very clearly, the Nazi took Raskolnikov’s gambit, trading in their humanity for power, and thence entering a moral universe unrecognizable to our own. A place where not morally normal men rule the roost but ghouls in human form.

    I fully understand that there are certain lies some people must tell themselves, exhibit A being the conspiratards, but this is not the stuff of leadership, and hence it is a path to nowhere.

    • Not Important
      Not Important says:

      He also had custom lampshades and chairs made out of jews he’d personally selected. He oversaw that process when he wasn’t smothering retards and kicking cripples in front of buses. Right?

      Nothing like a vaxxed Boomer’s out-of-nowhere lecture on “dah ebil Nawtzis!”

    • Carolyn Yeager
      Carolyn Yeager says:

      “In Himmler’s 1943 Posen speech he speaks of the murder of Jews – hundreds at a time – and the confiscation of their valuables. He speaks of murdering their children so that those children would not seek revenge against Germans for the murder of their parents in coming generations.”

      You are dead wrong on the content of Himmler’s 1943 Posen speech; it’s not about Jews but about the relationship between Germans and Slavs – mainly Poles and Russians. I challenge you to quote the passages in that speech on which you are basing your statement here. There are only two English translations of this speech in existence, that I know of, and one was made by Carlos Whitlock Porter expressly for ME and is on my website (copyrighted) here:

      You are probably confusing one of Himmler’s two 1944 speeches, shortly after the assassination attempt, also delivered in Posen, with the less well-known ’43 speech. But even that speech is highly controverted as to its legitimacy & faithfulness. So please justify your conclusion with direct quotes from a reliable translation. Also justify your over-the-top opinion that:
      “the Nazi took Raskolnikov’s gambit, trading in their humanity for power, and thence entering a moral universe unrecognizable to our own. A place where not morally normal men rule the roost but ghouls in human form.”

      But at least you’ve proven to me that you are definitely NOT the “Captainchaos” I remember from my earliest years on the Internet. Your often “nuts” and extreme opinions, so often recommending clearly unwise action, made me doubt that. You also showcase my position that the common use of anonymous screen names is BAD for our overall progress. People such as yourself take no responsibility and will say anything.

      • Captainchaos
        Captainchaos says:

        Two speeches were made by Himmler on October 4 and 6 1943 in Posen, Poland. An audio recording exists of one of these speeches. The full texts of these speeches are widely available on the internet in which the mass murder of Jews, including children, are mentioned by Himmler. Case closed.

        • Carolyn Yeager
          Carolyn Yeager says:

          I apologize. I confused an August 1944 “secret speech” to Gauleiters by Himmler with his Oct. 1943 speech to Gauleiters in Posen. Another confusing factor for me was a more important but little known speech from Oct. 24, 1943, also in Posen! Himmler was busy that month!! I doubt you even knew about that speech. You have taken your information entirely from Wikipedia, and their (((biased accounts))) on ALL WWII German topics. Another Franklin Ryckaert you are.

          HOWEVER, I still challenge you to quote directly from that speech (which IS legitimately accused of being tampered with, including the poor voice recording — a great deal has been written about this) the part you think he “mentions the mass murder of Jews, including children” in context with the rest of the speech (what comes before and after), because one cannot just throw around such serious charges based solely on enemy propaganda that you have not even investigated yourself. Okay? I’ll look for it.

        • Carolyn Yeager
          Carolyn Yeager says:

          P.S. By the way, you haven’t replied to my charge that you are not the original Captainchaos. Informing us when you first took on that ‘handle’ would be sufficient.

        • Carolyn Yeager
          Carolyn Yeager says:

          Since I don’t know what you will say, if anything, or how long this comment thread will remain open, I want to offer a little more. Since we know that no plan or written order by Hitler for any “extermination” of the Jews has ever been found, is it likely that Heinrich Himmler would have committed to a written transcript and even a voice recording, on his own, that indeed the killing of Jews, not just their exportation, was underway? NO. Himmler was an above-average intelligent man, not a dimwit. He was addressing a large group of SS officers from “the whole of the Reich.” What he said would certainly get back to Hitler if it seemed out of the ordinary or out of line.

          It’s this kind of logic that is consistently missing from the supporting “evidence” for the ‘Holocaust.’ It all works out as long as you don’t THINK about it for even 2 minutes.. Since these speeches were not found until 1970, or later, they could easily be forgeries or partial forgeries by the (((US Army Intelligence))) facilities. We know how they loved making forgeries. I have exposed many of them, and so have others. See

          Even though some like to dispute the meaning of the German word “Ausrottung” (commonly used in Germany for ‘eradication’ and ‘to disappear’) – I prefer to go with the forgery explanation. This part:

          “And then they turn up, the upstanding 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say the others are all swines, but this particular one is a splendid Jew.”

          … was attributed to Dr. Goebbels much earlier. This humorously sarcastic line doesn’t seem to have a purpose stuck between “it’s in our program, elimination of the Jews,” and “Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when there are 500 or when there are 1,000.”

          Himmler also purported told them:
          “I want to mention a very difficult subject before you here, completely openly.
          It should be discussed amongst us, and yet, nevertheless, we will never speak about it in public.”
          Does this make sense? He is going to speak “completely openly” but yet “we will never speak about it in public.” He would get in big trouble with Hitler on that. Hitler often complained about the German people’s inability to keep secrets!! That doesn’t exclude SS officers and Gauleiters. Plus there were waiters in and out, as it was a banquet. Just more illogic.

    • Emicho
      Emicho says:

      The Nazis were girl scouts led by Pollyanna compared to 20th/21st century America:
      Their good outdid their bad 1,000,000 x over, considering their short period in office and the pressures and times they lived in, example: Blood-drenched Bolsheviks on their doorstep and in all their cities, hyper-inflation, the recent destruction in WWI of an ancient civilisation.
      But Nazism or National Socialism is useless for our period because 1930’s Germans were a nation of men and warriors.
      We are a race of women, Jews, homosexuals and genders-benders. Partly because we are surrounded by mutants, kept alive by modernity. We aren’t fit to lace their boots, if a right-wing revolution does arise miraculously to save us, it will be nothing like German National Socialism.
      It will be as original, unexpected and unique as fascism was back then.

  6. Corona Hotspott
    Corona Hotspott says:

    Lies, lies and lies.

    I wonder what would happen if the people finally realize that there was never a pandemic as there are no viruses! It’s the biggest lie and the biggest crime in known human history.

    “Dismantling The virus Theory – The “measles virus” as an example

    Why should we doubt the existence of viruses? What are viruses and what are they not? How are viruses being scientifically demonstrated to exist?

    …During his experiments, Enders et al. sterilised the tissue cultures in order to exclude the possibility of bacteria killing the cells. What he didn’t take into consideration was that the sterilisation and the treatment of the cell culture when preparing it for the alleged infection was exactly what was killing the cells. Instead, he interpreted the cytopathic effects as the existence and the action of polio viruses, without ever having isolated a single virus and described its biochemistry. The necessary negative control experiments, which would have shown that the sterilisation and the treatment of the cells prior to the “infection” in the test tube was killing the cells, have never been performed. However, for this “performance” Enders received the Nobel prize in 1954.

    1954 is also the year in which Enders applied and introduced the same technique in order to allegedly replicate the measles virus. As he had been awarded the Nobel prize for the alleged polio virus the same year, all researchers believed his technique to be scientifically valid. Thus, to date, the entire concept of measles has been based upon this technique. Thus, the measles vaccines do not contain viruses, but particles of dead monkey kidney tissue or human cancer cells.”

    — Dr. Stefan Lanka – “Dismantling The virus Theory” –

    Watch Dr. Stefan Lanka, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Thomas Cowan, Dr. Amandha Vollmer

    • Barkingmad
      Barkingmad says:

      Virology is the biggest scam imaginable. A few loudmouth doctors said that illness is caused by this or that virus – and somehow, they made it stick. They even tried to blame cancer on a “virus”. The best example is attributing the complete breakdown of the immune system (AIDS) on an invisible substance called HIV. Everyone still believes this. SMH.

      • JM
        JM says:


        “Virology is the biggest scam imaginable.”

        That’s a pretty strong statement, considering that virtually the whole of the scientific community involved in microbiology/pathology believes otherwise and that there is almost unlimited evidence to substantiate their belief.

        What are your qualifications and experience in the field of microbiology/pathology.

        • JM
          JM says:

          I should have added that seeing through the sinister motivations behind the “Covid” “Pandemic” and publicly acting accordingly is quite another thing to wittingly or unwittingly trying to smuggle into the debate an attack on the legitimate and well established body of science.

          On the contrary it is the latter from which the Covid conspiracy has been best exposed and conversely it’s the denial of this that can only serve the conspirators.

          Of course paper (virtual and real) will take anything written on it but truth is established in ways other than mere scribbling.

        • Karl Haemers
          Karl Haemers says:

          I must agree that “Virology is the biggest scam imaginable” is a pretty strong statement, but for a different reason. Virology is indeed an immense scam, but some other immense scams contend for the honor of being the biggest. The holocaust, vaccines, and 911 being others.

  7. Tim Folke
    Tim Folke says:

    The COVID scam was simply the Hegelian Dialectic, to wit:
    a) Create a problem.
    b) Create hysteria over the problem.
    c) Create the solution to the problem.

    The Dialectic has been used successfully from starting wars to selling deodorant. Sad that so many people were ‘woke’ instead of awake.

  8. Bobby
    Bobby says:

    Thank you Karl for going through all of that GARBAGE because that’s what it really all is from the CDC – JEWISH GARBAGE!

    It’s the Pharisees 2.0, or whatever you want to call it. Pure Talmudic madness. They convinced the goyim to be afraid of the air. Then they convinced them to inject themselves with a vaccine that had no clinical trials. Masks… masks on school children… six feet apart… vaccinating children under 5…!

    I believe it’s a trial that will lead up to the Revelation. That’s how they’re planning to finally get rid of all of us.

    One of the biggest problems is that through our Jewish controlled education system (what isn’t controlled by Jews in America…?) they have dumbed down and or, indoctrinated so much of the population. At least half of the American population will believe, do, and think what the TV tells them to believe, do, and think. They are incapable of any type of critical thinking.

    One of my Muslim friends told me; “Americans are so stupid, if you let someone take over your country, they will. This is why we don’t allow Jews into our country.” He makes a good point.

    Even though I lost my job, I’m still happy that I didn’t get vaccinated. I know two people who died after getting it. One ten days after, the other three days after.

    • Weaver
      Weaver says:

      Dr. MacDonald,

      Y’all are going overfar into conspiracies. I tried posting a link to an Ivermectin video, but the core issue is that Americans have money for expensive drugs that dont work.

      Other, poorer, populations only have a little money and so are given cheap drugs that work, Ivermectic, HCQ, vitamins.

      We’re witnessing regulatory capture and the failure of a sort of capitalism.

      • Karl Haemers
        Karl Haemers says:

        In most cases, we don’t go nearly far enough into conspiracies. If we don’t have a conspiracy theory, we have a trust fantasy. The depravity, duplicity and malevolence of Jewish Power in America is being underestimated.
        This is by design. We are discouraged from going further by such tactics as the Limited Hangout and Controlled Opposition.
        Dr. Malone’s wife worked in the biotech industry and public health. She lists as two of her “influencers”, Bill and Melinda Gates. Malone’s work to invent a mRNA useful in vaccines failed because it was not stable. It took the work of Dr. Drew The Jew Weissman at the Perelman School of Medicine at UPenn to stabilize it with urididine. Perelman who funds the School of Medicine is a particularly corrupt malevolent Jewish hedge fund manager.
        We must pass a ban on Jewish hedge funds.

    • Weaver
      Weaver says:

      The two conspiracies to take notice of:

      1. The virus was probably already widespread in 2019. I expect this is true, because a relative had a very bad illness in 2019, Covid like symptoms.

      Significance: We already had herd immunity in 2020; vaccines weren’t justified.

      2. Dr. Malone submitted an effective (and inexpensive) treatment for Covid in early 2020, using Ivermectin.

      Significance: If a treatment using a drug with a proven safety record already existed, then there would be no justification for the emergency rushed experimental vaccines.

      • JM
        JM says:

        You seem to be saying that there was no conspiracy and that the only problems were “regulatory capture” (!) and Americans having too much money. What of the unprecedented (in peacetime) exercise of state power by the police and in some places, military? Was this not a deliberately planned exercise in mass social control for the future?

        • Weaver
          Weaver says:


          I don’t know what to believe about the Covid hysteria. I doubt Covid was intentionally released. The person to ask would be Dr. Malone and people like him (eg. Dr. McCullough).

          I expect it was developed in China as a means of learning how to treat a potential outbreak. Once the outbreak happened, hysteria was used to try to make Trump look bad. The lockdown then created new opportunities and developed a following, channelling anti-Trump energies.

          Covid and the hysterical reaction just sort of happened. It wasn’t planned. And, yea, it was an opportunity to make a lot of money.

          It was wanted for there to be minimal unvaccinated to minimize contrasts that could be made with the vaccinated.

          I expect many drugs are pushed through the US system in pursuit of profit, regardless of their effectiveness and safety. China mocks us for how special interests have captured our society, “capitalism failing,” and that does appear correct.

          Some people involved like Bill Gates did want reduced births. However, I doubt he realized the vaccines could harm fertility. He knew lockdowns would reduce births; that was the only aspect he was aware of.

          Others who did know the fertility impact just wanted to profit. And that aspect was hidden from most regulators.

          I believe our elites are 1. Corrupt 2. Dummies.

          I don’t think most of them intended to harm fertility.

        • Weaver
          Weaver says:


          1. Covid the virus was less dangerous than was feared.

          2. Doctors were prevented from effectively treating patients. What the breakdown here was, I don’t know. It was not a normal thing. You’d have to ask Dr. Malone or another like him how things broke down.

          There are many doctors who complain they were unable to treat their patients as they wanted. I believe legal liability was raised for “mistreating” patients by using ivermectin.

          Money was part of this, because an effective, safe treatment couldn’t be allowed if vaccines were to be justified. But I don’t know the exact breakdown here.

          Ideally you’d have a decentralized system where doctors may treat patients as they deem best.

          3. Deaths “with Covid” were recorded as deaths “from Covid” to make the virus look more dangerous. So, gun shot wound to the head “with Covid,” for example.

          4. People do regularly die from the flu. So, sometimes people just die. Their immune systems are weakened from age or from metabolic syndrome, or from a lack of vitamins.

          5. The virus grew more contagious and less dangerous with time, which is what people predicted early on.

          Covid was legit dangerous, but it did not merit the response we saw. I’m unvaccinated, and I’ve had no troubles. I’ve been around many Covid infected, taking zero precautions. I haven’t puked nor had any serious symptoms that I can recall, not for years.

          The US is an unwieldy machine. People just try to profit where they can. It’s like a great cow, unlimited milk. Capitalism, classical liberalism.

      • Karl Haemers
        Karl Haemers says:

        I had a “very bad illness” in late 2019. Aches, fever, congestion, cough, loss of taste and smell…
        Why should I think these were “covid-like symptoms”? They are symptoms of the common cold or flu, and a half dozen other conditions, such as allergies, mold/fungus exposure, possibly tuberculosis and other respiratory and systemic conditions.

    • Karl Haemers
      Karl Haemers says:

      Interesting. I found the “diversity and inclusion” policies of Pfizer particularly revolting. They must be trying to bankrupt and displace their own company. Or are willing to do so in order to bankrupt and displace whites.
      The evidence that the vax targets whites the most and Ashkenasi Jews the least is hard to evaluate. I really don’t understand the genetic science applied. It seems to me that the best data on this would be pro-rated or per capita, rather than straight numbers. I would expect that more whites have been vaxxed because modern medical systems make vaccination more accessible to whites, and because high white IQ makes whites more susceptible to pro-vax propaganda (as Anne C mentions in her comment, with the link to left-right brain dynamics). So factoring out sheer numbers in favor of per capita deaths by vax, for instance, would help our understanding.

  9. crank
    crank says:

    Order to the chaos !
    Is anyone going to argue with a peer reviewed study (a lead author is editor of the British Medical Journal) which looks at the data sets *from the vaccine developers Pfizer and Moderna* and points out that the risk of serious adverse reaction to these injections is shown *by the manufacturers’ own trials* to be higher than the reduction of risk from the illness they purport to protect against.
    There is no more ‘conspiritard’ or ‘antivaxxer’, get over it. The mainline scientific establishment voices are in agreement with the (previously) fringe dissenters : the injections are dangerous and do not work. If you took the shot in good faith, take a walk and face the reality.
    Now any captain who can lead us back to some semblance of order -even temporary order, please step forward in preference to the distracting clowns and pretenders in our midst.

  10. JM
    JM says:

    “Now any captain who can lead us back to some semblance of order -even temporary order, please step forward in preference to the distracting clowns and pretenders in our midst.”

    Lol! The presumption in this is that you are in a position to assess the merit of “…the distracting clowns and pretenders in our midst.” So you feel fit to insult the posters at this site, who, whatever our shortcomings, post here with sincerity and many for feedback from others.

    BTW, a bit more light on how leadership is won seems needed. National leadership has NEVER been achieved single-handedly, but always by a party deeply rooted in that society and in the process of growing into a mass party, well informed about its internal workings as well as of the bigger world picture. It has never been a job for one ‘captain’, man or woman. Wide discussion is an essential part of that process.

  11. SimpleMale
    SimpleMale says:

    “The following statement or similar was included in almost all main media reports”

    I don’t value the phrase “main/mainstream media.” How are we defining “mainstream?” Is it by absolute count of viewers? Or if it is owned by the Ashkenazim? Or based on the dollar value of the company’s assets? Since this is never clarified, I will use the phrase “Ashkenazi media” or “wealthy media.” Media companies like CNN, ABC, NYT, MSNBC, and so forth are Ashkenazi owned, and they are very wealthy companies. But do they have the most viewers? For example, how does CNN compare to Gateway Pundit, ZeroHedge, RT, and Vdare?

    I speculate that there are two motivations involved here (not my own research and ponderings). First, if Mr. Ron Unz is correct, then the virus was an economy-disrupting bioweapon attack on Russia/China/Iran that traveled back to the West, so the Ashkenazim may have wanted to protect themselves by ensuring everyone get vaccinated. Also, many Ashkenazim in the medical industry, in addition to wanting to be protected, may have also wanted to financially profit off of vaccine sales, hence the strong push to get everyone vaccinated. I don’t speculate the remaining hypothesis to have any merit, but then, I’m no genius that has the ability to understand everything . . .

    “This should enrage hundreds of millions of people in our nation”

    Okay, let’s say it enrages hundreds of millions of Americans. Then what?

    Personally, given these motivations, I never read the literature of the CDC, FDA, or USDA. Rather, I look at independent sources for data such as

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