Where US and Ukrainian War Aims Collide

For us, the crucial concern in this Ukraine-Russia war is not who ends up in control of Crimea and the Donbas, but that the U.S. not be sucked into a war with Russia that could escalate into a world war and a nuclear war.

To President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Ukraine, Crimea and the Donbas are national territories whose retrieval justifies all-out war to expel the invading armies of Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

Yet, who controls Crimea and the Donbas has, in the history of U.S.-Russian relations, never been an issue to justify a war between us.

America has never had a vital interest in who rules in Kyiv.

Through the 19th and almost all of the 20th century, Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire or the USSR, ruled from Moscow. And that condition presented no issue of concern to the USA, 5,000 miles away.

For us, the crucial concern in this Ukraine-Russia war is not who ends up in control of Crimea and the Donbas, but that the U.S. not be sucked into a war with Russia that could escalate into a world war and a nuclear war.

That is America’s paramount interest in this crisis.

Nothing in Eastern Europe would justify an all-out U.S. war with Russia. After all, Moscow’s control of Eastern and Central Europe was the situation that existed throughout the Cold War from 1945 to 1989.

And the U.S. never militarily challenged that result of World War II.

We lived with it. When Hungarians rose up in 1956 for freedom and independence, the U.S. refused to intervene. Rather than risk war with Russia, the Hungarian patriots were left to their fate by President Dwight Eisenhower.

How the world has changed in the 21st century.

Today, while the U.S. is under no obligation to go to war for Ukraine, we are obliged, under the NATO treaty, to go to war if Slovakia, Czechia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or Estonia are attacked.

And, though Kyiv is not a member of NATO, the U.S. finds itself the financier and principal armorer of Ukraine in a war with Russia over Crimea and the Donbas, which could involve the use of nuclear weapons for the first time since Nagasaki.

In short, our vital interest — avoidance of a U.S. war with a nuclear-armed Russia — may soon clash with the strategic war goals of Ukraine — i.e., full retrieval of Crimea and the Donbas.

If Putin is serious about an indefinite war to hold Crimea and the Donbas as Russian territory, how far are we willing to go to aid Ukraine in driving the Russians out and taking these lands back?

What appears to be emerging is a situation something like this:

As U.S. weapons help drive Russian soldiers out of the occupied regions of Ukraine, Russia and Putin are being driven into a corner, where the alternatives left to them shrink to two: accept defeat, humiliation and all its consequences, or escalate to hold onto what they have.

At some point, escalation to prevent defeat can require crossing the nuclear threshold. And Putin and his retinue have said as much.

Bottom line: At some point in this conflict, achieving the war aims of Ukraine must force Moscow to consider escalation or accept defeat.

For Russia, the worse the war situation is, the sooner comes the day when Putin must either play his ace of spades to avoid defeat, or accept defeat, humiliation and his potential overthrow in Moscow.

As Russia’s use of nuclear weapons could lead to a war that could involve the United States, Kyiv’s relentless pursuit of its vital interests — retrieval of all the lands taken by Russia, including the Donbas and Crimea — will eventually imperil vital U.S. interests.

If Kyiv, with U.S. weapons and support, pushes the Russians out of Crimea and the Donbas, Kyiv pushes its war with Russia closer and closer to a nuclear war.

As Kyiv seeks to reconquer all its territory lost to Russia since 2014, it pushes Russia closer and closer toward consideration of the only way to avert defeat and national humiliation, use of tactical nuclear weapons, which means moving closer to war with the United States.

The higher the casualty rates for Putin’s Russia, the worse the defeats inflicted on Russia by U.S.-armed and -equipped Ukrainians, the greater the likelihood Russia plays its ace of spades, nuclear weapons, to stave off defeat and humiliation and ensure the survival of the regime.

In short, the closer Putin comes to defeat, the closer we come to nuclear war, for that increasingly appears to be the only way Putin can prevent a Russian defeat, disgrace and humiliation.

Americans had best begin to consider what is the outcome to this war that can end the bloodshed, restore much of Ukraine to Kyiv, but not be seen as a historic humiliation for Russia.

Some Americans see this war as an opportunity to inflict a defeat and disgrace on Putin’s regime and Russia. Those seeking such goals should recognize that the closer they come to achieving their goals, the closer we come to Russia’s use of nuclear weapons.

Recall: President John F. Kennedy sought to provide an honorable way out of the Cuban missile crisis for the Soviet dictator and nation who precipitated it.

8 replies
  1. Ovidiu
    Ovidiu says:

    “President John F. Kennedy sought to provide an honorable way out of the Cuban missile crisis for the Soviet dictator and nation who precipitated it”

    But did he ? Or to the contrary Kennedy did not make public the fact that he agreed in exchange to withdraw the American nukes from Turkey and presented himself to the American public as the winner of the confrontation.

    US’s interest is to weaken Russia, to make it bleed and to sever it from Europe (and keep to Europe closely allied, and dependent on US and its military/NATO). It has already succeeded (or Putin has played disastrously his cards in Ukraine, beginning to 2014) and there is still more to be gained. Even of this war stops now it will still be a huge failure for Putin but US thinks it can get even more.

  2. todd hupp
    todd hupp says:

    I note today the future House leader says money for Ukraine will be terminated.
    There will be an east /west partition of Ukraine per Russia.
    Some Russian gas delivery to Germany will be restored.
    This is best for the rest of the World-to avoid a massive recession.
    The DC pop cons-Valerie Nuland et al- will not prevail this time around.

  3. Ron Chapman
    Ron Chapman says:

    Arguably this is a totally misguided understanding of Russia’s Special Military Operation (SMO) and its prosecution.
    Russia’s SMO is being undertaken to rid the Ukraine of its Khazarian Mafia (KM) controllers and their operations. That also entails indirectly assisting presidents Trump, Xi and their Global Alliance allies to oust the KM from control in the US, China and the rest of the world.
    Moreover, far from losing the conflict in Ukraine Russia is decisively winning and will achieve total elimination of the KM’s NAZIfication and NATO organised militarisation of Ukraine and the Kiev regime’s genocide of its Russian and other opponents there.
    The idea that Russia is losing is pathetic propaganda by the Kiev regime, NATO and the West. Not only has Russia already safeguarded most of the Donbas but it has also exposed and defanged the West’s bio-warfare labs and the Kiev regime’s covert misuse of nuclear facilities as well as disrupting the KM’s money laundering, drug and gun running; human and child sexual trafficking and adrenochrome production facilities there.
    If necessary Russia will defeat the Ukrainian military and NATO using particle beam and/or other non-nuclear weapons like the ‘rods of god’. Talk of nuclear weapons is nonsense rhetoric fostered by the KM and their Western minions and the MSM. Russia has not made such threats. Rather Russia has criticised the Kiev regimes persistent bombing of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant which could cause a major Chernobyl style nuclear fall-out catastrophe.

    • Floda
      Floda says:

      I hope you’re right Ron, I believe the real reason for this War is the Khazars have concluded their continued presence in the M/E is coming to an end and they want to go back to where they came from.

      Israel has a population of around 8 Million but they are surrounded by HUNDREDS of millions of Arabs who want all of them gone by any means possible. Egypt alone has a population of over 100 Million, right next door. So they decided to pick a fight with the Russian Ukrainians in 2014, to goad Putin into a fight.

      Now they have it and in those years wily Putin has seen Russia’s Aerospace and Missile technology surpass America’s.

      I am convinced they will NUKE a city in the country and use their media weapon to blame Putin. They will do it before the Mid terms. Maybe there’ll be no Mid term elections.

  4. USAllies
    USAllies says:

    Does anyone have a reference for which foreign/US investors own much of the agricultural land in Ukraine/Crimea?

  5. charles frey
    charles frey says:

    Sudetenland irredenta redux.

    Bad when applied by Hitler, but good when applied by Zelenskyi/Kolomoiski Inc.; en route to their third financial rape of Russia,

  6. Thaddeus Noble
    Thaddeus Noble says:

    People WAKE UP !!

    This entire JEWSMEDIA scripted war is as TOTALLY FAKE as Biden’s brain.

    JEWS run both countries. Their end game is to have JEWISH Controlled Russia slowly reabsorb Ukraine provenance by provenance.

    The Ukrainian citizens in these “Breakaway” republics are nothing but pawns in the Bolshevik game. You know the voting was rigged and now they are trapped.

    Zelensky, and the JEW bitch from the US State Department (Nuddleman), have with full US support, have been helping the JEWS infiltrate and overthrow the legitimate Ukrainian government and install their own people into power over several years.

    This TOTALLY FAKE AND ORCHESTRATED war is nothing more that a colossal global shakedown of Gentile governments ( also totally infiltrated and saturated with JEWISH parasites. ).

    Get your grey matter out of your southern orifice and face the facts here ! If you cannot see this you need a urgent eye exam !!

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