Aaron Mate: Zelensky’s hostility to peace triggers White House meltdown

Zelensky’s hostility to peace triggers White House meltdown

Long rewarded by Washington and NATO for undermining diplomacy with Russia, Zelensky grew confrontational — and told outright falsehoods — upon hearing the opposite from Donald Trump and JD Vance.

A contentious White House meeting between President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has thrown US-Ukrainian relations into disarray. The meeting resulted in Zelensky’s ejection from the White House, the cancellation of a planned minerals agreement, and, according to one report, a review of continued US military assistance to Ukraine.

For panicked cheerleaders of the proxy war against Russia, the consensus view is that Trump has betrayed a stalwart US ally, sided with an enemy in Moscow, and may have even deliberately triggered the clash to serve his treacherous agenda.

Those who insist that Zelensky was ambushed are overlooking the cordial, lengthy exchange that occurred before the meeting turned testy. In a room full of aides and news cameras, Trump, Vance, and Zelensky held court for more than 40 minutes. It was Zelensky who became confrontational each time the two US leaders spoke favorably about negotiations with Russia.

In his opening remarks, Trump criticized his predecessor Joe Biden for refusing to “speak to Russia whatsoever” and expressed his hope to bring the war “to a close.” Zelensky responded by calling Vladimir Putin a “a killer and terrorist” and vowing that there would be “of course no compromises with the killer about our territories.” In a paranoid threat, he also declared that unless Trump helps him “stop Putin,” then the Russian leader will invade the Baltic states “to bring them back to his empire”, which would draw the US into the war, despite the “big nice ocean” shielding the US from Europe: “Your soldiers will fight.”

Trump did not interrupt or object to these initial, belligerent comments. The closest he came to a direct criticism occurred when a reporter asked about Zelensky’s avowed refusal to compromise. Trump replied that “certainly he’s going to have to make some compromises, but hopefully they won’t be as big as some people think you’re going to have to make.” Trump even promised that “we’re going to be continuing” US military support to Ukraine.

Yet because Trump also stressed that his goal is to end the war through diplomacy, Zelensky grew agitated. The tipping point came when, after 40 minutes, a reporter asked whether Trump has chosen to “align yourself too much with Putin.” Vance responded that, in his view, “the path to peace and the path to prosperity” entails “engaging in diplomacy.” It was here that Zelensky lost his composure and directly challenged Vance: “What kind of diplomacy, J.D., you are speaking about? What do you mean?”.

This drew a sharp reaction. Vance reminded Zelensky that his military is brutally nabbing Ukrainian men off the street to send them to the front lines, and that the US seeks “the kind of diplomacy that’s going to end the destruction of your country.” Zelensky then doubled down by challenging Vance to visit Ukraine and reviving his attempted fearmongering. “You have a nice ocean and don’t feel it now,” he said, referring to the Atlantic, “but you will feel it in the future.” That veiled threat angered Trump, who proceeded to call out Zelensky for, among other things, “gambling with the lives of millions of people,” and “with World War III.”

In opting to confront Vance, Zelensky showed that he is so reflexively hostile to the notion of negotiating with Russia that he is willing to berate his chief sponsor, in public no less, for daring to suggest it. And to serve his agenda, Zelensky also showed that he is willing to engage in distortion and even outright falsification.

To make his case that Putin cannot be negotiated with, Zelensky first invoked an agreement, brokered by France and Germany, that he signed with Putin in Paris on December 9, 2019. The pact called for a prisoner exchange, which, Zelensky asserted, Putin ignored. “He [Putin] didn’t exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn’t do it,” Zelensky said.

Zelensky was not being truthful. He himself attended a December 29, 2019 ceremony welcoming the return of Ukrainian prisoners freed under his agreement with Putin. Then in April 2020, his office hailed the release of a third round of prisoners.

December 29, 2019: Zelensky attends a welcome ceremony for Ukrainian prisoners returned under his agreement with Russia. (Yuliia Ovsiannikova/ Ukrinform/Future Publishing via Getty Images)

That was not his only false statement. In insisting that Putin can’t be trusted to uphold agreements, Zelensky omitted his own record in undermining diplomacy with Moscow.

The December 2019 pact recommitted Ukraine and Russia to the Minsk peace process, the UN Security Council-endorsed framework for ending the war that broke out in 2014 between the post-coup Ukrainian government and Russian-backed eastern Ukrainian rebels.

After initially taking some positive steps toward implementation, Zelensky ultimately refused to comply, a stance that he previewed in Putin’s company. During a joint news conference in Paris, Zelensky visibly smirked as Putin discussed the importance of following through with Minsk. The following March, Zelensky, under pressure from Ukraine’s ultra-nationalists and US-funded NGOs, abandoned a pledge to hold direct talks with representatives of the breakaway Donbas republics, which would be granted limited autonomy under Minsk.

By that point, the Kremlin had begun to raise concerns that Zelensky was not following through. A Kremlin readout of a call between Putin and Zelensky the previous month noted that Putin had “stressed the importance of the full and unconditional fulfillment of all measures and decisions made in Minsk and adopted at the Normandy summits, including the one held in Paris on December 9, 2019… Vladimir Putin directly asked if Kyiv intends to really implement the Minsk agreements.”

Zelensky kept signaling that he had no such intention. In mid-July 2020, Zelensky’s party proposed a measure that would hold local elections throughout Ukraine – yet in a deliberate omission, the plan excluded Donbas, which was supposed to have new elections under Minsk. By that point, Zelensky was openly contemptuous of Donbas residents. “The people of the Donbas have been brainwashed,” Zelensky complained. “They live in the Russian information space… I can’t reach them.”

The entry of the Biden team to the Oval Office in January 2021 encouraged Zelensky’s confrontational path. In February 2021 – one year before Russia invaded – Zelensky shut down three television networks tied to his main political opposition, which advocated better ties with Russia. A Zelensky aide later disclosed that this crackdown was “conceived as a welcome gift to the Biden administration,” which offered its enthusiastic endorsement of Zelensky’s effort to “counter Russia’s malign influence.”

The following month, the Biden administration returned the favor by approving its first military package for Ukraine, valued at $125 million. That encouraged even more bellicosity from Zelensky’s government. Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council approved a strategy to recover all of Crimea from Russian control, including by force. Ukrainian military leaders also announced that they were “ready” to retake Donbas by force, with the help of NATO allies.

By this point, Zelensky was openly disdainful of the diplomatic path that he had signed onto in Paris. “I have no intention of talking to terrorists, and it is just impossible for me in my position,” he declared in April 2021. Zelensky also demanded changes to Minsk. “I’m now participating in the process that was designed before my time,” he said. “The Minsk process should be more flexible in this situation. It should serve the purposes of today not of the past.”

Zelensky and his aides maintained this stance in the weeks before Russia’s February 2022 invasion. “The position of Ukraine, which has been expressed many times at different levels, is unchanged,” top Zelensky advisor Andrii Yermak said. “There have not been and will not be any direct negotiations with the separatists.” Added Ukrainian security chief Oleksiy Danilov: “The fulfillment of the Minsk agreement means the country’s destruction.” Perhaps to underscore the point, Zelensky’s government escalated attacks on rebel-controlled areas.

The Russian invasion forced Zelensky to abandon his hostility to negotiations, resulting in the Istanbul talks of March-April 2022. While Zelensky now claims that Russia cannot be negotiated with, his own representatives in Istanbul hold a much different view.

“We managed to find a very real compromise,” Oleksandr Chalyi, a senior member of the Ukrainian negotiating team, recalled in December 2023. “We were very close in the middle of April, in the end of April, to finalize our war with some peaceful settlement.” Putin, he added, “tried to do everything possible to conclude [an] agreement with Ukraine.”

According to former Zelensky advisor Oleksiy Arestovich, who also took part in the talks, “the Istanbul peace initiatives were very good.” While Ukraine “made concessions,” he said, “the amount of their [Russia’s] concessions was greater. This will never happen again.” The Ukraine war, Arestovich concluded, “could have ended with the Istanbul agreements, and several hundreds of thousands of people would still be alive.”

The US and UK sabotaged the Istanbul talks by refusing to provide Ukraine with security guarantees and encouraging Zelensky to keep fighting instead. Zelensky’s decision to obey their dictates helps explain why he is so desperate to obtain a security guarantee from Trump. Having walked away from a peace deal that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, Zelensky needs a tangible Western security commitment to show for it.

In Zelensky’s defense, he has also faced, from the start of his presidency, the threat of violence from Ukrainian ultra-nationalists staunchly opposed to any peace deal with Russia and allied eastern Ukrainians. And rather than help him overcome this domestic obstacle to peace, Washington has enabled it. As the late scholar Stephen F. Cohen prophetically warned in October 2019, Zelensky would not be able to “go forward with full peace negotiations unless America has his back” against “a quasi-fascist movement” that was literally threatening his life.

For this reason, it was disrespectful of Vance to insist that Zelensky thank the US for its military support, when that assistance has in fact fueled Ukraine’s decimation. Yet Zelensky is also responsible for putting himself in this position. Because he dutifully served the US goal of using Ukraine to bleed Russia, Zelensky was rewarded with political and media adulation, along with tens of billions of dollars in NATO funding.

The unprecedented dispute at the White House shows that Zelensky’s disingenuous hostility to negotiations is no longer welcome in Washington. While this may prove fatal to Zelensky’s political career and US proxy warfare against Russia, it is a tangible step toward ending his country’s destruction.

24 replies
  1. Shitting Bull
    Shitting Bull says:

    Dugin who has Putin’s ear has already suggested incorporating much more than Ukraine as Vlad the Implacable suggested in an essay he wrote some years ago.
    German geostrategist Dr Terhalle says Europe needs another 1000 nuclear warheads to deter the new Vozhd in the Kremlin.
    While these psychologically defective man-boys who rule Russia, America, Israel and North Korea are playing with their mega-toys, wily old Chinamen look on the future radioactive desert from the Rockies to the Urals with wily old eyes.
    The TV spectacle of a US President shouting at Zelensky did nothing for the US or anyone else, let alone Peace in Our Time.

    • Arnold Bannerman
      Arnold Bannerman says:

      @ Shitting Bull
      Like the Palestine question. the conflicting opinions and mutual disinformation are building up over Ukraine. Take the different books by Medea Benjamin, Robert Seely, Owen Matthews, Benjamin Abelow…. Donald never reads anything much at all, but is that a help in this case?

  2. Chris Moore
    Chris Moore says:

    Off course Zelensky was lying. He lies every time he starts in on his macro narrative. He’s a Juden-fascist, a con artist, a ZOG made-man, and in bed deep with the fake-“liberal”, genocidal, crypto-jew establishment. He’s suspended elections for his ethnic gang, he’s abducting Ukrainian Christians off the streets and sending them to the front lines, and he’s waging war against the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine. This is Bolshevik-Zionism 101, the founding playbook of Israel.

  3. Tim
    Tim says:

    https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Nazi_Germany

    The chart for January 30, 1933 at 11:15 in Berlin shows a strong Aquarius influence, with the Sun and Saturn conjunct in the 10th house. This suggests a focus on innovation, societal structures, and authority. The Aquarius energy indicates a drive for progress and new ideas, while Saturn brings discipline and organization.

    The Sagittarius Ascendant points to an expansive, philosophical approach to identity. With Jupiter, the chart ruler, in Virgo in the 9th house, there’s an emphasis on practical idealism and attention to detail in matters of higher learning and foreign affairs.

    The Moon in Aries in the 4th house indicates emotional intensity regarding homeland and roots. This placement can bring passion and initiative to domestic matters.

    Venus and Mars conjunct in Capricorn in the 2nd house suggest a disciplined, goal-oriented approach to resources and values. This could manifest as economic efficiency and a strong work ethic.

    Pluto in Cancer in the 8th house, opposing Jupiter, indicates potential for deep transformation in shared resources and power structures. This aspect could drive significant changes in societal systems.

    The Neptune-Jupiter opposition across the 3rd and 9th houses suggests tension between idealism and practical communication. This could lead to visionary ideas, but also potential for misunderstandings or overreach in how these ideas are expressed.

    Overall, this chart indicates a nation with a strong drive for societal transformation, innovative thinking, and structured authority. The combination of Aquarian and Saturnian energies in the 10th house suggests a focus on creating new systems of governance and social order. The chart shows potential for both visionary leadership and practical implementation, though it also indicates challenges in balancing idealism with reality.

    https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence

    The astrological analysis of Israel’s founding chart reveals a nation beset by challenging and potentially destructive energies. The Sun in Taurus in the 8th house, square Neptune, suggests a persistent struggle over resources and territory, with a tendency towards self-deception and unclear boundaries. This configuration could manifest as ongoing conflicts and disputes with neighboring countries.

    The powerful Leo stellium in the 10th house, including the Moon, Saturn, and Pluto, indicates an overwhelming need for recognition and authority, potentially leading to authoritarian and oppressive governance. This concentration of energy in Leo could result in a national character marked by arrogance, aggression, and an inflated sense of self-importance on the world stage.

    Mars in Leo in the 10th house, trine Jupiter, points to an overly assertive and potentially militaristic approach to leadership and national defense. This placement suggests a nation quick to resort to force and aggression in pursuing its interests, often at the expense of diplomacy and peaceful resolution.

    The Libra Ascendant, with Venus in Cancer in the 9th house but square Uranus, hints at a superficial desire for balance and diplomacy that is constantly undermined by erratic and disruptive behavior in international affairs. This configuration could lead to unpredictable and destabilizing actions that alienate allies and exacerbate regional tensions.

    Overall, the chart suggests a nation driven by insecurity, aggression, and a need for dominance, potentially leading to ongoing conflicts, isolation, and internal strife. The challenging aspects and intense planetary concentrations point to a volatile and potentially destructive national character that may struggle to find peace and stability in its region and on the global stage.

    • Emma Smith
      Emma Smith says:

      Really interesting, Tim, if you believe that sort of thing like the ancient Babylonians.
      What about the Trump Presidency? Putin’s Russia? The Papacy (Malachy?) Taiwan? The Volodymyr Holodomor?
      Perhaps TOO should have a Horoscope corner like the Luegenpresse?

      • Tim
        Tim says:

        Beg your pardon, dear Emmaleinchen: very uninteresting!

        Your attempt to ridicule me is obviously your specific post-modern pseudo-rational “defense” mechanism. That doesn’t matter at all, you are welcome to continue to view the world exclusively in the same way as before, without including “outdated systems”.

        Which, however, does not speak for an outstanding knowledge of human nature. So just keep being the ignorant Emma you’ve always been. Everything else has the potential to damage your stringently closed, one-dimensional “Emma knows”-view of the world.

    • Michel Martin
      Michel Martin says:

      Adolf Hitler was a Taurean, stubborn and eloquent. So was Tony Blair, Lenin, Cromwell and Malcolm X. Like 684,000,000 other people.

      • Tim
        Tim says:

        What does that mean now? What logic lies in
        your “statement”? It shows that you have no
        idea, at best nothing more. (The last sentence
        was an imaginative creation especially for you.)

    • Tim
      Tim says:

      @ emma / martin (different people?)

      If the Jews have persuaded you that astrology
      is (for sure!) “nonsense”, then, for God’s sake,
      don’t let them take this belief away from you!
      Everyone should remain as limited as they are!

      • Tim
        Tim says:

        @ emma / martin

        To say that Jesus walked on water and
        came from the immaculate conception
        is less objectionable in your “enlighte-
        ned” circles than to claim that humans
        are cosmic energy beings and there-
        fore a reflection of this synchronicity.

        • Emma Smith
          Emma Smith says:

          @ Tim
          I don’t believe that Jesus was virgin-born or walked on water, but I do think that astral signs around 7-2 BCE were linked to his alleged birth.
          I keep an open mind about astrology – but the proof of the pudding is in accurate forecasting. See “Astrology & Science” online.
          I suppose Martin’s Taureans are one 1/12 of the world’s population.

          • Tim
            Tim says:

            Cosmological “predictions” of any events are highly speculative. Anyone who claims to be able to do this will be labeled a liar and a cheat. However, you can define probabilities, adversities and favorabilities. For example, if the Sun crosses a person’s Descendant into the 7th house once a year, it is about relationship issues etc.

            The fact that every 12th person is a “Taurean” only applies to the sun sign. But not all Taureans are the same. This would mean ignoring all other existing planetary placements, constellations and aspects, which are very different from each other. In addition, a Sun in the first decade of a sign can be very different from a Sun in the third decade, for example (the sections of a month, i.e. of about 30 days, are divided into three times ten days).

            The old discussion “astrology & science” that you brought up has no basis whatsoever, because so-called science stigmatizes astrology from the outset as “pseudoscience” (i.e. measures it according to its own categegories) in order to dispute its place and declare it obsolete. In much the same way that religious people stigmatize all “non-religious” people as “a-theists”, i.e. “god-less”. Or as if all people who do not smoke are just “non-smokers”. But a “non” cannot be thought at all.

            As I have already said, “astrology” is an intuitive grasp of certain qualities that is not accessible to everyone because their antennae are underdeveloped in this respect. Just as blind people have a completely different perception of the world than sighted people, and may perceive it much more “visually” than they do. Should we deny them this visionary ability? Do we see with or through the eye?

            For example, if I recommend this Wikipedia article to you, you won’t notice what I notice because you have a specific “blindness” in this regard, which you nevertheless consider to be “scientific knowledge”. But if I tell you that both the producer and the director (both Jews, btw.), as well as the two main actors, are of the zodiac sign Scorpio, you will “recognize” what I mean. I think it is possible that, absurdly, all four of them were not even aware of this themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpio_(film)

            And even with the third main character Scofield, the Scorpio quality is dominant in the horoscope (scroll down). How high is the “scientific” probability that this is “mere coincidence” and does not involve any “cosmo-logical” condition? https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Paul_Scofield

          • Tim
            Tim says:

            One last word: Incidentally, and this is really very interesting, looking at the world through “astrological” glasses can certainly be compared with the view of a so-called “anti-Semite”. Jews and their accomplices will stigmatize the recognition of certain correlations as “unscientific, unfounded, unsubstantiated”.

            Is it therefore “mere imagination” or an “over-focused fixation”? Only those who “know” what the “anti-Semite” knows can therefore understand what he is talking about at all, because everyone else remains blind to these “unscientific” connections.

    • Tim
      Tim says:

      @ emma / martin

      “Astrology (the millennia-old precursor to astronomy) is a vast field, where, for the most part, incompetent individuals roam, who actually belong among the unbelievers. Whether it works, for whom it works, and why it works, is a question that does not reveal itself to just any fool, and may remain forever locked away like ‘Open Sesame,’ to which you have no access.”

    • Tim
      Tim says:

      @ emma / martin

      It happens from time to time, that I am “attacked” or even “ridiculed” [sic!] for this. Not in person (the opposite is true, everyone wants to know more and more), but on the internet, like for example here. Presumably even by people who read the “Luegenpresse” (only who is German writes this word like this) and their fake “horrorscopes” every day. The owner of the truth must expose himself to the risk of being mobbed by fools.

      This is “vulgar astrology”, which is not based on knowledge but on speculation, i.e. a Jewish interpretation. You can simply label these un-intuitive know-nothings and their “recipients” as fools. 80 percent of what is on the “market” is in truth junk, garbage, pure idiocy. Astrology requires an advanced view that is able to find itself in the world. Its in the nature of things. It is only accessible to the instinctively tactful interested person who was born for it like a doctor.

      For, let’s say, “very simple-minded” people who lead a stupid regular life in the Jewish world of waste is their daily mentally resticted food requirement, this “pseudo-wisdom” in all possible ways indeed does not make any “sense” at all! It is the proverbial blind who speak of color. They stand there, grunting and nodding like an ox in front of a barn gate. But make their usual, ordonary obtuse noise, through brain and gut fumes that they mistake for “truth”.

  4. Tim
    Tim says:

    For extremely insensitive, dorky, yes, even incomprehensibly retarded people largely not “understood”, a phenomenon can be observed throughout the year: birthdays of “proms” bring them back into conversation. Whether it’s Elvis or Frank Sinatra.

    Why is that? Why is the time around our birthday generally the strongest, happiest time of the year? Why do all the doors open and all the traffic lights turn green when we cross the road? There is more at play here than sheer “numbers”!

    Synchronicity. Spotlight (sun) directed at you. It can’t be “data” alone, unless they are so important that everyone else remembers you. Why are commemorations, holidays in general, important for our culture (except for Emma, Michael and the like)?

  5. Tim
    Tim says:

    It can be abstracted that certain qualities on our part are triggered by contact with the Sun. We should keep calendar in order to categorize events energetically and use them to our advantage.

    Our personal planets are usually distributed over the entire radix. A qualitatively harmonious, balanced horoscope, all elements present, each in different forms of expression and effect.

    There are people with planetary clusters within one sign, which, like everything, is both advantage and disadvantage. They are characterized by a strong personality and little fragmentation.

    This can already be recognized by looking at their horoscope: they are loners and only “at home” among their own kind. Positions such as Ascendant and Midheaven are also important.

  6. Tim
    Tim says:

    If I obtain a sufficient level of detailed knowledge, I can assess a person and evaluate the qualities expressed in them. To do this, I need dates of birth, photos with typical expressions, curriculum vitae, circumstances of fate. In a group of ten people, I can tell from their habitus, their way of speaking and the topics they bring up which basic quality they belong to.

    Since all the people who have experienced this have developed a thirst for more information, the certainty of my assessment is extremely high. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest that jaded fools run against it, I convict them of their ignorance anytime and anywhere. Their “counter-arguments” expose them as pitifully inexperienced, if not to say very stupid, people.

    • Emma Smith
      Emma Smith says:

      Good luck [!] with your efforts, Tim.
      We await your horoscope for the USA, Russia, China & Israel.
      And why not yours?

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