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Michelle Goldberg: Nick Fuentes Was Charlie Kirk’s Bitter Enemy. Now He’s Becoming His Successor.

November 5, 2025/8 Comments/in General/by Kevin MacDonald

Nick Fuentes Was Charlie Kirk’s Bitter Enemy. Now He’s Becoming His Successor.

Nov. 3, 2025
A black-and-white photo shows Nick Fuentes looking to the right.
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Charlie Kirk, the conservative influencer who was assassinated in September, and Nick Fuentes, the young Hitler-loving white nationalist at the center of a growing schism on the right, were bitter enemies.

Fuentes despised Kirk for his support of Israel, and, more broadly, for his efforts to marginalize Fuentes’s gleefully racist and fascist brand of politics. In 2019, seeking to expose Kirk as “anti-white” and a “fake patriot,” Fuentes organized his army of young fans — known as Groypers, after a variant on the alt-right Pepe the Frog meme — to flood events held by Kirk’s organization, Turning Point, and ask hostile questions. At one, they drove Donald Trump Jr. off the stage.

After Kirk was murdered, Fuentes, perhaps fearing he’d be blamed, disavowed violence. But he continued his attacks on Turning Point and accused Kirk’s widow, Erika, of being happy her husband was dead. “I am getting this vibe from her that she’s very fake,” he said.

Even as Fuentes defamed Kirk’s widow, powerful conservatives were engaged in a nationwide campaign to canonize Kirk and destroy progressives who maligned him. Guest-hosting Kirk’s podcast, JD Vance urged listeners to report people celebrating Kirk’s death to their employers. In such an atmosphere, one might think that Fuentes’s stock on the right would have fallen. Instead, it’s risen higher than ever, revealing a seemingly unstoppable ratchet of radicalization on the right.

If you’re not familiar with Fuentes’s ideology, he helpfully distilled it on his streaming show, “America First,” in March. “Jews are running society, women need to shut up,” he said, using an obscenity. “Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part.” His sneering, proudly transgressive attitude has made him a hero to legions of mostly young men who resent all forms of political gatekeeping. The conservative writer Rod Dreher, a close friend of Vance, warned, “I am told by someone in a position to know that something like 30 to 40 percent of D.C. G.O.P. staffers under the age of 30 are Groypers.” The figure is impossible to check, but it captures a widespread sense that Fuentes’s politics are ascendant.

Plenty of conservatives, especially Jewish ones, abhor Fuentes’s growing clout. But by cheering on Donald Trump as he promoted conspiracy theories and systematically destroyed bulwarks against nativism and bigotry in the Republican Party, they helped make Fuentes’s rise possible.

Fuentes reached a career high last week when he was invited onto Tucker Carlson’s podcast, one of the most popular shows in the country. Carlson gently took issue with a few things Fuentes has said, especially the idea that Jews as a whole are responsible for the sins of Israel and neoconservatism. “I feel like going on about ‘the Jews’ helps the neocons,” Carlson said at one point. But their two-hour conversation was overwhelmingly friendly. Carlson seemed to presume that they were on the same side; his disagreements with Fuentes were mostly about means, not ends.

Conservatives who detest antisemitism were shaken by the interview. They were even more alarmed when Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation — long a bastion of the conservative establishment — defended Carlson. “The Heritage Foundation didn’t become the intellectual backbone of the conservative movement by canceling our own people or policing the consciences of Christians,” he said in a video, describing Carlson’s critics as a “venomous coalition” who are “sowing division.”

These comments led to an uproar among some of Heritage’s donors, staff members and supporters, and Roberts attempted to quell it by denouncing Fuentes. But he still seems to think that Carlson was right to give him a hearing. In a message to the Heritage staff obtained by National Review, Roberts rejected “censorship and purity tests,” writing, “Canceling one person today guarantees the purge of many tomorrow.”

Roberts is not against cancel culture in principle; he cheered Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension from ABC for his comments about Kirk’s murder. But he’s very much opposed to the cancellation of conservatives, no matter how extreme, and he’s not alone. On much of the MAGA right, attempts to impose taboos have themselves become the ultimate taboo. This stance is summed up by the phrase “no enemies to the right,” which has become common enough in MAGA world that it’s sometimes written as an acronym, NETTR.
For decades, mainstream conservatives spoke proudly of how William F. Buckley Jr., the founding editor of National Review, excommunicated the paranoiac and reactionary John Birch Society from the conservative movement. The story of Buckley’s cordon sanitaire was always a bit of a myth; the border between respectable conservatism and the far-right demimonde remained quite permeable. But it was a helpful myth, since it valorized a willingness to draw lines.

Trump all but annihilated that willingness, and many MAGA intellectuals now see Buckley’s quarantine as a mistake. Laura Field, in her excellent new book “Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right,” quotes the writer and activist Charles Haywood calling Buckley a “Judas” who “led the American Right into a box canyon, swiftly spiking any gun that seemed as if it might be effective in the war waged by the Left on decent America for over a hundred years.”

Not all conservatives embrace the idea of “no enemies to the right” — Dreher has written powerfully against it — but it’s become a significant current in our politics. When Politico reported that several Young Republican leaders took part in a racist group chat that included praise for Hitler, some in the party were appalled, and a few of the participants lost their jobs. But Vance defended them as “kids” whose lives shouldn’t be ruined for telling jokes. (Some were in their 30s.) Within certain MAGA circles, to criticize someone for being too racist or reactionary is a betrayal, signaling an acceptance of the very liberal morality that the movement’s vanguard seeks to destroy.

Kirk, who came of age in the pre-Trump conservative movement, was still sometimes willing to police boundaries. But in the wake of his killing, there’s surprisingly little sense on the right that that part of his legacy should be upheld. Rather, prominent voices insist that Kirk’s murder necessitates the final loosening of all remaining restraints. “I cannot ‘unite’ with the left because they want me dead,” the influential podcaster Matt Walsh posted after Kirk’s death. “But I will unite with anyone on the right.”

Adrian Vermeule, the Harvard law professor who has helped create the intellectual foundation for the post-liberal right, put it more elegantly this weekend, as the fight over Carlson, Fuentes and Roberts roiled conservatives. “History records many cases in which cities fell to siege because, even with the enemy at the very gates, factions within the city could not put aside their mutual struggle for domination,” he wrote on social media. Lest there be any doubt about which factions he was scolding, he made it clear in a subsequent post: “I’ll be resolutely ignoring the views of those who profess a certain ‘conservatism’ but who have never actually challenged the liberal consensus on anything that might endanger their careers.”

Vermeule is a cultivated man who, as Field writes, is part of a movement that “thinks it has a monopoly on things like ‘the true, the good and the beautiful.’” Yet however lofty his rhetoric, its moral logic leads inexorably to Groyperism, and the elevation of Fuentes, Kirk’s foe, into his successor.

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8 replies
  1. Roy Albrecht
    Roy Albrecht says:
    November 5, 2025 at 2:48 pm

    Having heard of Fuentes only fleetingly before the flurry of recent media coverage, and now getting a good look at his photo in and reading other reports of his latest exploits;
    1) He looks like a chick magnet. Give him a good production team, turn him into a rock star and within a year he will cure 75% of the Jew infected,, Left liberal young breedable White women on the planet (not to mention what he will do to young, swooning, non-white girls).
    2) Get this guy a crack team of young, White Nationalist, security professionals to protect him from the Jew assassins who will soon be (gunning, droning, poisoning, etc.) for his head before it’s too late.
    3) Identify and give him as much public exposure on any and every independent media platform that Jews have not yet managed to lay their filthy fingers on as soon as possible.
    4) Cast him as 007 in the next Bond film with Elon Musk playing the role of Q.

    This is the man has the potential to finally shift the balance of power back in favour of Whites in the Western world.

    • JoeKosh
      JoeKosh says:
      November 7, 2025 at 6:22 pm

      But he is not white himself.
      He is obviously installed and on kosher payroll.
      They love the diverse–so being half-Mexican (whatever the heritage details) gives him the all-important multicultural credentials.
      The way they moved him in right after Kirk (who was hardly on the radar and outlived his value) was especially telling.
      No one who is considered a real threat would be given so much free media, especially when others who are fully white like Henrik Palmgren and Mark Collett are de-platformed.

  2. Tim
    Tim says:
    November 5, 2025 at 8:06 pm

    Amren-Jewess Katz:

    https://www.amren.com/blog/2025/11/zwerner-vs-parker-day-one/

    In such cases, the jury is regularly faced with a dilem-
    ma: Who ranks higher in the social hierarchy of vic-
    tims: the white woman – or the black perpetrator?

    https://www.perplexity.ai/search/where-comes-the-kinda-german-s-lrGpWYugTK6uAkZNjbHVdw

    When it comes to such issues, the Lat-
    vians are are clearly miles ahead of us:

    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251031-latvia-treaty-violence-against-women

    Those who “question” their own existence
    in such a foolish manner should not be sur-
    prised when they are actually eliminated…

    https://www.amren.com/podcasts/2025/11/is-it-ok-to-kill-white-supremacists/

    First rule of rhetoric: never ask stupid
    questions that give others power over
    you!!! Instead, constitute power your
    self through the way you ask questions!

    So don’t ever ask, “Do you want to ma-
    nage our household finances?” Instead,
    “Do you want to receive your allowance
    at the beginning or end of the month?”

    Devastating “feminism,” “critical whiteness stu-
    dies,” “classism,” etc. are gnawing away at the
    pillars of male dominance: “Power is constituted
    in the semantic application of rhetorical patterns.”

    We do not deny or reject this in the slightest! We are
    men, we want, need, and strive for power! Power alo-
    ne determines the direction we all take! It is therefo-
    re solely the man’s responsibility to gain this power!

    • Tim
      Tim says:
      November 6, 2025 at 4:16 am

      Power’s Two Faces

      Power is not the sharpened chain
      that pulls another to obey,
      nor is it conquest or domain—
      imposing will, demanding sway.

      True power quietly appears
      when interests claim their space and right,
      not by subduing hopes or fears,
      but by persuasion, honesty, light.

      To rule is to fence and to confine,
      to press a rival firm below,
      while influence—subtler by design—
      lets common purpose start to grow.

      But many cooks may spoil the pot,
      and only one can steer the helm.
      You can’t both lead and play the top,
      nor wear two crowns within one realm.

      Power is not about power over,
      but power to act and make things move.
      The “doer” shapes with steady hand,
      not the tyrant craving command.

      Nietzsche’s will, a force profound,
      the ceaseless pulse that spins life’s round.
      Not mere control or iron hold,
      but vibrant strength that shapes the bold.

      Power is energy in motion,
      not idle wishes, dreams, or notion.
      Let will and strength reshape the world,
      through acts where true resolves are hurled.

      Power’s core is self-surpassing,
      a strength that bends but never breaking.
      To rise, reforge, evolve, improve—
      the inner fire that fuels the move.

      True power bears responsibility—
      the weight of freedom’s sovereignty.
      To stand for all one holds as true,
      and shape the world with conscience too.

      The first, a tower built on sand,
      precarious, brittle, crowned with pride.
      The second, rooted in demand
      for fairness, reason, and what’s inside.

      So seek the strength to shift the view,
      to wield the power that makes anew.
      Let power mean creating force,
      the active path, not passive course.

  3. Tim
    Tim says:
    November 6, 2025 at 5:13 am

    Elon is watching you:

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/elon-musk-launched-grokipedia-heres-how-it-compares-to-wikipedia

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/25/ai-models-may-be-developing-their-own-survival-drive-researchers-say

  4. Tim
    Tim says:
    November 6, 2025 at 5:35 am

    He wants to replace Bolshevikipedia. He has the finan-
    cial means to do so, then hopefully finally without the
    constant begging for donations. From then on, it will be:
    “Elon is watching you (trust me, I am pure objectivity).”

  5. Tim
    Tim says:
    November 6, 2025 at 5:37 pm

    ps. “Count” Kessler

    As far as I can tell, the 57 years’ worth of diaries—supposedly the largest contemporary diary collection—kept by this so-called “count” are little more than the pseudo-intellectual ramblings of a gay pseudo-aristocrat, whose sole purpose in life was to mingle with high society, indulge in idleness, and frivolously squander his father’s enormous fortune.

    Today, he’s regarded as a luminary, though he died alone in the end. He supposedly knew everyone, but no one really knew him in return. He represents a typical hedonist and nihilist, lacking both purpose and any right to exist.

    That he glorified the decadent period of the 1920s and dismissed the Nazis as a bunch of culturally barren plebeians is hardly surprising—after all, it was precisely types like him who were identified as chiefly responsible for the downfall of German culture. There is an air of presumptuous arrogance, self-importance, snobbery, and class conceit that runs throughout.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_von_Kessler
    https://archive.is/0ksLD
    https://archive.is/nSs9B

    Biography & translations by Easton, who also
    appears in the documentary film (only in Ger-
    man), are compiled as PDFs in link collection.
    https://linkmix.co/46385545

    https://www.encyclopedia.com/arts/educational-magazines/easton-laird-m-1956
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs_u2qmlpTuOgO1mSkrpiKutRcmCLUeoW

    • Tim
      Tim says:
      November 7, 2025 at 12:45 pm

      Life is full of surprises. But are they really “surprises,” or
      are they actually confirmations of our basic assumptions?
      Hold on to your hats: the translator of Count Kessler’s dia-
      ries is a convicted pedophile! AI has confirmed my research.
      https://krcrtv.com/news/local/chico-state-professor-charged-with-child-porn-possession

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