Christian Lander: Whiter Shades of Pale: The Stuff White People Like, Coast to Coast, from Seattle’s Sweaters to Maine’s Microbrews; New York: Random House, 2010
I saw Christian Lander in San Francisco on Tuesday, December 2nd, speaking to a tiny sweater-clad audience at a small independent bookstore in the Marina District. Lander told the story of the amazing success of his blog Stuff White People Like which in about six months grew from a private joke to a New York Times bestselling book (with a reported $300,000 advance). (See Christopher Donovan’s review of the Stuff White People Like book.)
In his talk, Lander made it very clear that he is not talking about all White people, but just “the right kind of White people,” as opposed to “the wrong kind of White people.”
The right kind of White people are urban, college-educated, and from upper-middle and upper-class backgrounds. And, most importantly, they are liberal.
Lander also adds that the right kind of White people are “rich”: they live in expensive cities, go to expensive colleges, travel widely, and can afford to take a year off from time to time. They know how to trade their hip, grungy attire for expensive suits and ties, and their ironic detachment for “attaboy” attitude, when opportunities for advancement in the system present themselves (courtesy of people from their parents’ generation and social circles).
And they know how to hold onto what’s theirs. They can be cheap and multicultural at the same time simply by replacing White workers with Guatemalans.
The wrong kind of White people live in suburbs and rural areas. They are not college educated, or, if they went to college, they were in frats and sororities, did not attend first tier schools, and did not take liberal arts degrees. They are working or middle class, or horrible businessman and industrialists. And they are not liberal. They are Tea Partiers and Republicans. They watch Fox News.
The right kind of White people define themselves by looking down on the wrong type of White people. This sort of intra-White status competition is a perennial feature of colonial societies like the United States and Lander’s native Canada, where an absence of fixed class distinctions creates immense social anxiety and a strong desire to distinguish oneself from “those people” through an ever-shifting set of conventional status markers that Lander focuses on with often uncanny perspicacity. (It takes a special kind of brilliance to see things that are so close to who we are that we cannot help but overlook them.)
I asked Lander “What percentage of White people are White people?” and he answered “90%” But it was clear he was talking only about 90% of the people he knew. In fact, 90% of the people he knows belong to the 20% of Americans who describe themselves as liberals. Lander also mentioned growing up in Toronto, where the White working and middle classes have been pretty much replaced by non-Whites, which is a vision of the world being engineered by Lander’s type of White people for the rest of us.
Lander’s work is softball satire, not serious sociology. But he is nevertheless significant, because White liberals tend to think that they are generic, universal humans that all other humans aspire to imitate. In this, White liberals are true White supremacists. White Nationalists, who actually believe that the races are different, would never expect the other races to yearn to be just like us. We would sooner just let them be themselves.
By getting White liberals to realize that no, the things they like are not universal but parochially and ethnically White, Christian Lander has stumbled into something very subversive.
White liberals wish to give all the things they like the force of law: women’s rights, gay rights, animal rights, environmentalism, historical preservationism, natural foods, walkable communities, general social tolerance. But the wrong type of White people stand in their way.
The solution is simple: dissolve the people and elect a new one. Destroy the wrong kind of White people by shipping their jobs overseas and importing non-Whites to displace them at home. Destroy their will to reproduce by ridiculing and penalizing large families. Destroy their ability to reproduce by taxing them to support large non-White families. And do whatever you can to make a buck producing a culture that leads the wrong kind of White people to political powerlessness, poverty, degradation, and death.
The right kind of White people think this will work, because they believe (1) that the new non-White peasantry will be grateful to them, (2) that deep down the grateful peasants all want to be just like them, and (3) that the emerging non-White majority will continue to accept the leadership of “the right kind of White people” even when they have dwindled to a minority segment of just another minority group. Lander talks about the magical process by which expensive colleges and urban environments transform select non-Whites, mostly Asians, into White people.
Of course White Nationalists know that the White liberal plan for hegemony leads only to oblivion. The non-White hordes are well-aware of the parochial Whiteness of liberal values. But non-White groups tend to be highly ethnocentric, and given the power, they will promote their own values, not the values of White liberals. Why in the world would they adopt the values of a people who have destroyed their civilization and handed their lands over to aliens?
In an America ruled by Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Hindus, and Muslims of all races, the stuff White liberals like—tolerance, feminism, gay rights, support for “the arts” (for White arts), environmentalism, historic preservationism (of White history), animal rights, etc.—will have pretty much the same status they have in every Third World country.
And aren’t there already enough corrupt, violent, impoverished, misogynistic, filthy, environmentally devastated Third World countries?
Lander’s work interests me for another reason. White Nationalism will not triumph if it is merely a phenomenon of the far right. We need to work to make White racial consciousness hegemonic up and down the political spectrum. In a White Nationalist society, we will still be arguing about drug legalization, gay rights, environmentalism, abortion, etc. It is just that the Reds and the Blues will all be Whites, and Whites will not have the opportunity to bring in non-Whites to gain economic or political advantages in their battles with fellow Whites.
So, how close are Christian Lander’s “right kind of White people” to White racial consciousness? Sitting in that audience and listening to the smug, self-satisfied sniggering at Lander’s gentle satire, I realized: They are already there.
The “right” kind of White people are supremely confident in their own superiority. Their self-esteem and sense of entitlement are rock solid. The right kind of White people believe that (1) all other human beings aspire to be just like them, and (2) they will always remain in power and able to secure and perpetuate their values. Those White people down at the Marina believe that the rising tide of color will float their boats.
One fellow asked Lander about what sort of criticism he gets. Apparently, a lot of Stormfront types take him to task for double standards: “How come it’s OK to make fun of White people but not Black or Hispanic or Asian people?” he asked in a mock-macho, working class accent. Lander’s answer stunned me: “It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.” Translation: White people will always be on top and in control.
But the double standard is not limited to mockery. In the present social climate, Whites and Whites alone are not allowed to think of ourselves as White unless we are mocking ourselves. Whites are not allowed to take pride in our race and its achievements. But other races are encouraged to. We are not allowed to weigh policy questions in terms of our racial interests. But other races are encouraged to, and even helped by Whites. Increasing racial and ethnic diversity is leading to increasing polarization and conflict, in which all groups except Whites are encouraged to take their own side and get their share.
In this context, such a double standard can only have an unhappy ending: White dispossession. As Mike Polignano puts it in the title essay of his Taking Our Own Side:
In the midst of a race war, there can be no greater folly than impartiality, than the pious rot that “there is only one race, the human race.” Robert Frost once brilliantly described a liberal as a man who will not take his own side in a fight. In a fight to the death, such a policy is suicide.
In every transaction between a partial man and an impartial man, the impartial man is at a disadvantage. When the impartial man has a benefit to confer, the partial man appeals to the other’s impartiality and often walks off with the prize. But when the impartial man needs something from the partial man, his appeals to impartiality fall on deaf ears. As social interactions multiply, so do the partial man’s advantages at the expense of the impartial man. (The essence of the Jewish strategy of dominance is to practice ruthless partiality while urging their victims to be free of prejudice and partiality.)
Once the impartial man has nothing left to bargain with, once he has been reduced to powerlessness and penury, to what will he appeal to preserve his life and freedom? Impartiality? Universal notions of freedom and justice and rights? These are just pleading words unless one has the power to force others to respect them. But the impartial man has bargained all his power away. Pleading alone will not prevent him from being reduced to a slave or a corpse, and that is what we Whites will become unless we start taking our own side, and quickly.
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So, is Christian Lander funny? Yes, but I think he is a lot funnier in person than in print. There is a great deal of smugness and self-satisfaction in Lander’s brand of soothing satire. The right sort of White people look down on everybody else. When they read Lander, they also look down on themselves for just a second—but only at their most loveable little foibles—and in the end, their sense of superiority is merely reinforced. After all, they are not like those Stormfront rednecks who can’t laugh at themselves.
Lander’s big giveaway is #50: Christopher Guest Movies, the most smugly unfunny movies around.
Lander’s White self-mockery smells like White guilt: self-congratulation disguised as self-abasement. Pity always involves invidious comparisons: One feels superior to those one pities. Moral self-deprecation has the same quality: One revels in one’s superior self-consciousness. Every stroke of the flagellum is, after all, just a pat on the back.
But in pointing this out, I don’t want White people to engage in genuine guilt and self-abasement. I want us to take honest and straightforward pride in our virtues, not praise them under the guise of self-mockery.
Lander lists 92 things that the “right sort” of White people like. The fun of this book is seeing how well one is reflected in it. (The Dutch translation of Stuff White People like has a mirror on the cover.) I divided Lander’s 92 “likes” into five categories. Here are my scores:
- Yes, I Like: 41
- No me gusto: 37
- Don’t Know: 1 (Thailand)
- Above My Pay Grade: 2 (Ivy League, nannies)
- WTF?: 11 (These are probably things I would know about if I watched TV or went to malls. They include: #26, Adult Swim, #30, Ugly Sweater Parties [I regift all my ugly sweaters], #31 Anthropologie, #44 Roller Derby, #58 Hating People Who Wear Ed Hardy, and #87 Banksy)
My likes include #6 Foreign Accents (as long as they are European), #11 Moleskine Notebooks (wherein the first draft of this was written), #12 Messenger Bags (wherein the former was stashed), #15 Promising to Learn a New Language (Italian is next), #16 Political Prisoners (yes, like Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf, and Horst Mahler), #17 Disinfectant (hand sanitizer is a must for travel in Calcutta or New York City), #19 Bumper Stickers (I don’t have a car, but I have bumper stickers, like “Bush: The Only Dope Worth Shooting” and “Annoy a Liberal: Kill, Hate, and Steal”), #35 Vespas, #36 Short Stories (as long as they are by Lovecraft or Flannery O’Connor), #37 Alternative Newspapers (actually I don’t like any newspapers, but I wrote something for The Aryan Alternative once), #41 Halloween, #45 Appearing to Enjoy Classical Music (and really enjoying it, in my case), #49 Sweaters, #59 Swimming, #83 Taking a Year Off, #85 The Winter Olympics, #89 Old Maps (one of his uncanniest calls), and #90 IKEA.
Food-related likes include: #14 Raw Milk (right down to the glass bottles), #20 Berry Picking, #22 Community Supported Agriculture, #27 Whole Wheat, #28 Sea Salt, #42 Trader Joe’s, #52 Small Batch Soda, #66 Hummus, #68 Heirloom Tomatoes, #70 Olives, and #84 Growing Their Own Food.
The most dead-on funny entries are on things that racially-aware White people don’t like: #24 Self-Aware Hip-Hop References, #53 Black Music That Black People Don’t Listen to Anymore, and #54 Bob Marley. Other stand outs are #60 Google, #71 Facebook, #73 Cult Movies, and #88 Being Offended.
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So what lessons does Christian Lander teach us about our White liberal brothers and sisters? Their White racial consciousness is alive and well. Their White pride is flourishing behind the masks of White guilt and irony. But while Lander’s “right kind of White people” are extremely secure of their status vis-à-vis non-Whites, they are very insecure of their status vis-à-vis other White people, “the wrong kind,” our kind. Thus White racial consciousness will not become hegemonic until the “right” Whites start fearing non-Whites more and hating other Whites less.
Greg Johnson, Ph.D., is Editor-in-Chief of Counter-Currents Publishing Ltd. and North American New Right. More of his work is available at http://www.counter-currents.com/.
Facing the Future as a Minority
I think I get it:
White People are in charge, and always will be.
Colored Folk are helpless and childlike.
But, some White People are good, others bad.
The job of the Good WP is to help the Colored Folk by keeping the Bad WP in line [because, the CF are helpless, and the Bad WP are, well, bad]
Thus, BWP can’t be allowed by GWP to make jokes about CF, because this would lead to segregation or slavery [Bad BWP + helpless CF]
Thus the GWP remain in charge, as WP always do, but also get to differentiate themselves from the Bad WP in a way that let’s them pat themselves on the back for how liberal they are.
Genius! Pure White Genius! Too bad, like the credit bubble, the model [add and empower dark people] is ultimately not sustainable. It’s that last turn of the screw, taking credit for “helping these poor folks” that trips them up. Hubris.
You have summed it up beautifully. Great analogy to the real estate bubble!
“Thus White racial consciousness will not become hegemonic until the “right” Whites start fearing non-Whites more and hating other Whites less.”
This is why I cheer, hell, yeah, at every story about Transport Security Admin fecklessness and officious beaurocratic petty tyranny.
Up to now, the “right kind” of White people could self-righteously sequester themselves away from the ill effects of their beloved PC-MC.
But, now, ha! It’s all staring them in the face in the form of an obese, overpaid, obnoxious Black broad or buck snerking at xrays of their post-graduate naked bodies and grabbing them in the ‘nads as they try to board their flight to Europe, all so’s they can be secure, without being discriminatory or something, against “terrorists” — who are always Arabs — and all done during the admin of their beloved mulatto Hopenchange guy.
Since I, wisely, am a yeoman farmer type (the most wrongety-wrongey-wrong type of White person) and therefore I do not have to fly, let ‘em enjoy, I say. Yup.
“The ‘right’ kind of White people are supremely confident in their own superiority. Their self-esteem and sense of entitlement are rock solid. The right kind of White people believe that (1) all other human beings aspire to be just like them…Lander’s White self-mockery smells like White guilt: self-congratulation disguised as self-abasement.”
Great insight, Greg. Lander’s humor reminds me of Garrison Keillor’s swipes at Minnesota Swedes in a way (only more caustic.) Self-congratulation is right. False modesty.
He has a funny piece on his blog about white people who go to the World Cup. He’s REALLY talking about Americans and Canadians, who are just trying to act more “European”, since most of us don’t give a rat’s *ss about soccer over here. Since he doesn’t include Europeans or working class Americans in his humor, I can’t help but think the real target is liberalism and privilege.
Let’s peel one more layer off the onion of obfuscation: dispossession disguised as enforced charity. The government confiscates about 40% of the earnings of the middle class. A significant portion of this money is redistributed to the disadvantaged who are often not of the same race as the middle class. At the same time, job and educational opportunities (and all that follow from them, e.g., marriage) are being stolen from white males and given to less deserving minorities.
The biblical measure of charity is tithing – 10%. Where does the government get off taking anything like 40% of middle class income, and stealing educational and job opportunities to boot? And when someone says “we owe them” how exactly do we owe them anything more than an already generous 10%? And why is the government making decisions on who gets the charity? Reframe the issue: Why is the government usurping individual charitable activity? Why is 40% of an individual’s income confiscated? If MR. SWPL wants to give more than 10% fine. But don’t tell others that 10% is not enough when it is already the biblical measure of generosity.
“Christian” OMG, they have CHUTZPAH I’ll give them that, Lander is only doing what is HEALTHY for any race, fighting for his race’s advancement.
I can’t blame the various Jewish groups who fought to change our immigration laws, destroy the White race across every possible spectrum.
That is the law of survival. What is really so disgusting is the sickness of the upscale Whitey, they REALLY hate White people, I’ve seen it, up close and personal. I take comfort, however, that no matter WHAT happens in the future, the upscale Whitey will suffer the WORST, because they are so WEAK, truly an effeminate group.
Not all of them can afford armored automobiles, or helicopters to take them to and from work and shopping. Not all. Then the 3rd World predators will find them as FOOD, just like Brazil.
Aware Whites, while they see the Homeland disintegrate into the sewer of humanity, will at least enjoy the SPECTACLE of the white snobs and their Semitic Masters scurrying in terror from the hordes.
Who said there was no upside to all of this?
“Christian” OMG, they have CHUTZPAH I’ll give them that, Lander is only doing what is HEALTHY for any race, fighting for his race’s advancement.
He isn’t Jewish, if that’s what you’re saying.
“I have a Community Hebrew Academy of Toronto shirt on in this picture [above] and a lot of people debated whether or not I was Jewish because of the shirt. But I’m not, I got it at a thrift store, of course.”
-Christian Lander
http://www.heebmagazine.com/stuff-white-people-likes-christian-lander-the-heeb-interview/
This is a great essay, that captures what so many of us feel, but just don’t have the talent to type out. Thank you.
Now what are we going to do with our snotty brethren when TSHTF? As has been commented on elsewhere, the ones who have the sharpest gift of prophecy, are often the most ill-prepared to deal with the consequences. We should decide now since ours is the only race that shows spontaneous mercy. IMO, they deserve none.
Mike
When the shit hits the fan, our snotty brethren are going to be deciding what they do with us. I don’t have any illusions about that. The city folk didn’t starve in the USSR, the country folk did. And the “right kind of white people” will be sending their pet blacks and browns out to strip the “wrong kind of whites” to the bone. After all these decades of losing, and losing again, and then losing some more, why do people on the right persist in the idea that they are strong, manly, and ruthless?
I had no idea Capt. Chaos was such a pussy. At any rate, GJ speaks only for himself: us “country folk” are armed to the teeth, unlike the massacred Ukrainians. And the blacks and browns detest cosmpolitan Jews even more than we do. They will cut them up into little pieces.
“Apparently, a lot of Stormfront types take him to task for double standards”
Sadly SF is now compromised, it is controlled opposition.
The gutter VNN forum is still not compromised, at least for now.
FYI
Elaborate?
Apparently, a lot of Stormfront types take him to task for double standards: “How come it’s OK to make fun of White people but not Black or Hispanic or Asian people?” he asked in a mock-macho, working class accent. Lander’s answer stunned me: “It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.”
Are you sure he actually said that?
Incredible!
Of course I doubt Lander’s gentle satire will lead to anti-Swipple pogroms, but the general point of Lander’s statement is insanely hubristic.
Obviously the majority group in any Country has a numerical advantage which makes persecution less likely.
But oddly enough, and this is something Lander isn’t taking into account, it must be noted that Whites are being persecuted in America today while still being the majority.
If it was persecution for the governments of Southern States during Jim Crow to mandate job discrimination against sub-African-Americans, then it must also be discrimination for the US Federal Government of today to mandate discrimination against European-Americans.
And then there’s the issue that Whites being the majority isn’t a stable situation.
Surely Lander has read one of the thousands of stories rejoicing over the fact that Whites will be a minority by 2050, 2042, or whatever year they’re saying it will be now.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Yes, he actually said it.
Lander’s answer stunned me: “It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.”
I think his answer is also intended as mockery, the mindset of the yuppie types, more like they simply can’t imagine any unhappy ending to their liberalism. I checked out this landers Stuff White People Like blog and find a similar style of humor to that of South Park. He comments on a lot of things I’ve noticed too, particularly the “Music Black Folks don’t listen to anymore.” I was wondering why in all these PBS shows about the great “achievements” of blacks in Jazz and The Blues nobody pointed out the irony of the fact that the only ones playing, buying, and making documentaries about these dead genres were whites. Young blacks could give a rats ass about Jazz or The Blues. Myself, I hate that dreadful “bebop” genre where people make random noise and chords. You have to be really full of yourself to pretend to enjoy that kind of music, though I do listen to the “Smooth Jazz” station in my car because at least it’s pleasant on the ears unlike that god awful rap and classic rock.
It’s not ‘random noise and chords’. You don’t have to like it of course, (or ascribe any value to it – that’s your choice), but there is a sophisticated understanding of harmony and rhythm behind the Be Bop approach to composition.
Charlie Parker was well aware of the latest developments in European symphony music, and it doesn’t make me some kind of ‘race traitor’ to give credit where it is due.
Be Bop was foremost a musician’s music. I was introduced to it by my father who spent his working life playing for the London Philharmonic and London Symphony Orchestras. I think he is qualified to judge ‘random noise and chords’, even if I suspect you are not.
I have a problem with the SWPL idea. In the real world, most white people are apolitical, apathetic, or are just not preoccupied with status seeking. For instance, I enjoy attending art museums, going to Starbucks, dislike NASCAR, detest Fox News, admire Kevin MacDonald and support conservation. I see no contradiction. I am to the right of Pat Buchanan on immigration and race. However, I see nothing admirable in the white middle-class propensity towards chauvinism, militarism, jingoism, and Christian Zionist fanaticism.
I am pretty much the same, although I do not patronize Starbucks because it is owned by a very mischievous Zionist Jew.
The “Right” white people basically think that whites are the only moral agents in the world. The other races (the inferior races, so we are not talking about North East Asians or the cream of South Asia) are not moral agents. They are not responsible for anything that happens to them. If blacks behave in ways that sabotage their own interests, that is somehow due to white evil. Inferior non-whites are just moral status symbols. Professing to love them is just one more means by which the right kind of white people differentiate themselves from the wrong kind of white people.
Wow, thanks Greg. That comment you added about White people thinking of themselves (with a few exceptions) as the only moral agents in the world is very insightful. It explains a lot. When I reflect on the attitudes of liberal Whites that is almost always the implication of their worldview.
White people do seem to have a propensity to make “pets” out of non-Whites. It seems to be a part of what we are, perhaps genetic. We tend to assume that the non-Whites are capable of being “domesticated”, by which whites implicitly mean becoming White. We seem to think that the “other” is just a white person with a different paint job. At one point in history some of our ancestors thought they could domesticate crocodiles … like dogs and cats have been domesticated. That didn’t work out well and those hapless idiots were munched by their “pets”.
White people seem to think like the Lone Ranger. Tonto plays along with the LR as long as the LR has power that is useful to Tonto. But in his heart, Tonto knows he can’t be the LR and hates the LR for assuming he wants to be just like the LR.
As long as White People think like the Lone Ranger, and share the same spaces with a variety of Tontos, they are in for a rude awakening when Tonto balks at being called “stupid”. Kemosabe is what Tonto called the LR. It’s best spelled as Quien No Sabe, meaning “He who doesn’t know”. And Tonto apparently means “stupid”. A lot more going on in that series than meets the eye!
Over at http://www.whiterabbitradio.net there’s a new podcast, #56, which addresses White Rabbit Psychology and Ecology. It’s about what WE are. We cannot change what’s “going down” until we understand our own psychology, which non-Whites are far more aware of than we ourselves are.
“White liberals wish to give all the things they like the force of law: women’s rights, gay rights, animal rights, environmentalism, historical preservationism, natural foods, walkable communities, general social tolerance. But the wrong type of White people stand in their way.
The solution is simple: dissolve the people and elect a new one. Destroy the wrong kind of White people by shipping their jobs overseas and importing non-Whites to displace them at home. Destroy their will to reproduce by ridiculing and penalizing large families.”
Where are the Jews in this analysis? How could they have been overlooked?
And I see no point in flattering Lander and his audience. The “right White people” are simply the tamed pets of the Jews. If they are smug with their situation they are even more stupid than the Jews could imagine.
Johnson seems a bit superficial (neglecting the Jews in the equation is simply mind-boggeling) and his optimism that there will be a White world where we have to discuss with the “right White people” is a bit hollow.
German, the only thing I might disagree with is the idea that SWPLs are only the tame pets of Jews, although I see why you say that. However, this type of White person has been influential in the US long before Jews had much impact. MacDonald has discussed the native “culture of critique” that grew up in the United States long ago. The abolitionists in the North are an example. I think it’s important to remember this because, if true, even if there were zero Jewish influence on Whites, we would still have a problem. Here is MacDonald’s paper on the “INDIGENOUS CULTURE OF CRITIQUE” :
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Gura-Transcendentalism.pdf
Forgive me if this is a duplication, but an earlier attempt to reply seems to have disappeared. I will deal with the role of Jews in constructing our reigning cultural ironism, of which Lander is a practitioner, in an extended version of this review that I will post tomorrow on my own website.
@ Jeff Maylor
I know the essay. I don’t agree with Mister MacDonald’s assumption that these whites were completely unaffected by Jews. I approve the thesis of German economy-professor Sombart in his book “The Jews and Modern Capitalism” that America was a Jewish colony from the beginning because it was dominated from Jewish finance from the beginning. So their strange behavior could be an overreaction to the alianation that those men and women sensed in the Modern World, an overreaction not dissimilar to the strange behavior of the “hippies”.
And so I don’t agree with the thesis of MacDonald that a large percentage of Whites have universalistic tendencies which lead to race suicide. Although it might be the case that the strange behavior of the transcendalists shows some flaw inherent in a subset of the White race, I can’t imagine that the flaw is that big. I don’t think that a large group of Whites would show a suicidal tendency if the Jews wouldn’t have evolved.
@ Greg Johnson
I will check out your website!
Excuse my misspelling: Those people were the “Transcendentalists”.
This analysis is dead on. What I find fascinating however, is not the rational basis or ideology of the “right kind of White people” like Lansky, but rather the underlying psychology of these folks. Their ideology is but a rationalization of the motive force underneath it.
This motive force is the result of years of conditioning in which they are exposed to propaganda which castes “the wrong kind of White people” and their values as antagonist, the “innocent non-white victims” as protagonist, and the “right kind of White people” as heroes. The resulting emotional force of this constant propaganda and conditioning builds, over time, the psychological framework underlying the ideology of the white liberal. Ultimately, this motive force can be summed up as a sense of self-loathing self-righteousness.
The “right kind of White person” has formed an image of himself as both antagonist and hero. As antagonist, the subject’s self-loathing is extirpated by the development of an overwhelming self-righteous indignation …again, aimed inward…producing a schizophrenic effect of sorts. For liberals, the hero (the self-righteous conqueror of “the wrong kind of white people”) wins in this schizophrenic battle.
The white liberal mind is created by constant psychological conditioning in which their natural sense of self is made the enemy, and is conquered by a phantasmagoric “hero”, leaving a self-destroying sense of self. THIS is the foundation of all white liberal thought. Liberalism is not an ideology, it is pathology. There are many other aspects to this pathology, not the least of which is a constant diet of sex and violence, a strong need to conform to the emerging culture created by the propaganda, as well as appeals to all other forms of psychological weakness.
The natural order of man, and civilizing order, is tribal. Every single psychological study…studies in trust, studies in happiness…show that homogenous societies are best; show that racial-ethnically minded societies are strongest. History shows that “multi-cultural” societies dissolve into civil war. From what does one derive the concept of “us” and “we”? It is the natural order of things these concepts are fundamentally, genetically, intrinsically, and archetypically….yes, racial and ethnic.
Those on the left of course, have “pathologized” those with strong white racially identity. The irony is that it is they that suffer from malformed thought… a result of propaganda created by ethnic rivals, a people who have their own racial or ethnic interests in mind. We now know who, in this internet age, these people are, what they have done in great detail, and what they are planning to do. If only the “right kind of White people” would start listening.
That any white person gleefully supports the promotion of non-white identity, the suppression of their own race, and even the destruction of their own race, is a clear form of insanity. There is something fundamentally wrong with “the right kind of White person” Lansky envisions.
Wow, very impressive comment. Just think of the power movies and TV have in this conditioning process? How many times has the main character been a “right kind of white person” who defeated the “wrong kind of whites” for the interests of non-whites?
This theme is ran over and over. Liberals (the right kind of whites) aren’t even smart enough to see that their whole persona and worldview is the creation of people in Hollywood and New York.
Liberals accuse pro-Whites of being “brain-washed” when it is they who are conditioned by TV/movies (how many pro White movies have been created in the last 40 years?).
Liberals accuse pro-Whites of being “hateful” when it is they who are hateful(compare your experience debating liberals at their websites compared to the experience liberals have on pro-Whites sites).
Liberals accuse pro-Whites of wanting to remove people’s rights when it is they who deny people the right to speech and association (see American Renaissance 2010).
Liberals accuse pro-Whites of being violent when it is they who act violently (look at all the times Right Wingers have been attacked on college campuses by liberals).
Liberals think of themselves as “original” or “creative” when in fact, they are truly followers in the real sense of the word. Everything about them is phony. The biggest joke of all is this idea that they’re “revolutionaries.” lol hahah I can’t help laughing about it everything I think about!
Liberals are the anti-White system’s mentally deficient thugs who get to cause havoc in the streets and on campus with little to no risk. Real revolutionaries don’t get 3 hours on cspan to discuss their “ideas” (ie..Bill Ayers).
In 100 years people will look back and laugh at this group of people we call SWPLs. They’ll have trouble understanding how such a phony group could even exist without being laughed out of the room? In fact, I can see a time (coming sooner than you think) when SWPLs will be scrambling to destroy any evidence of their SWPL personas. Future Whites will be ashamed if they come across any old photos of their grandparents taking part in SWPL behavior.
Liberals/SWPLs call themselves “anti-racist.” What they are is anti-White.
Anti-Racism is a code for anti-White.
I always thought Stormfront was controlled by the ADL.
Considering the massive purge that’s happening over there these past two days, such a thought may not be so ridiculous.
In my experience, this quote is absolutely accurate:
“The “right” kind of White people are supremely confident in their own superiority. Their self-esteem and sense of entitlement are rock solid. The right kind of White people believe that (1) all other human beings aspire to be just like them, and (2) they will always remain in power and able to secure and perpetuate their values. Those White people down at the Marina believe that the rising tide of color will float their boats.”
Most of the SWPLs are supremely confident and have no sense of vulnerability. In many ways, they see themselves like the English colonialists did in India a century ago – surrounded by a sea of brown people but firmly in control. The flaw in this approach is that the British overseas population had a homogeneous ethnostate to draw power from.
Notice that most of the SWPLs are fairly unproductive. They often manage to get into professions where they “appropriate” wealth from the society at large, but they are seldom involved in the production of wealth. For example, they are seldom engineers or chemists – they are more likely to be lawyers and investment bankers. There are exceptions of course, such as software. I’d like to say that this gives “our” kind of productive White people the edge, but I’m not really sure. Most engineers, chemists, and small business owners seems willing to leave the culture to others – big mistake.
Indeed, finding an SWPL that is innovative or industrious is not a common sight.
Greg comments, “The city folk didn’t starve in the USSR, the country folk did. And the “right kind of white people” will be sending their pet blacks and browns out to strip the “wrong kind of whites” to the bone.”
I agree that the situation is likely to be more dire than many Whites want to believe, however, I think the Whites in the suburbs, rural areas and small towns – our kind of Whites, are a different breed than those Whites in the USSR. Not all Whites are the same as we all know. The Whites here, especially the Scots-Irish and similar groups that exist all throughout the South and MidWest are not likely to be easily subdued by an army of blacks and browns. But, let’s hope other peaceful solutions are found first.
Gene: “That any white person gleefully supports the promotion of non-white identity, the suppression of their own race, and even the destruction of their own race, is a clear form of insanity. There is something fundamentally wrong with “the right kind of White person” Lansky envisions.”
I’m not sure that the mental illness frame is particularly useful here, but if you want to use it, it’s important to understand that the proper frame isn’t “White guilt” and masochism, but White psychopathy and sadism. I say this because these elite Whites like Lander don’t want to send their OWN daughters to school with feral street negroes, they want YOU to do it. Nor do they want their OWN daughters to marry negroes, they just think that YOUR daughter should, and that you are scum who must be punished if you resent it and fight back. Likewise with the entire liberal agenda, e.g., they don’t want to bear the costs of immigration, but they think that YOU should. The greater your pain, the more they like it. In short, such Whites are conscienceless psychopaths, sadists who actually enjoy it when “the wrong kind” of White people suffer.
It can certainly be argued that these elite Whites absorb this from the Jews among them, but as a moral argument, I don’t really think that lets them off the hook. As Johnson alludes to, this sort of factional or class struggle between types of Whites has been going on since the America’s founding (a close study of the case of American hero and slave trader George Washington is instructive here). It’s used by the Jews but exists independently of them. You might also want to argue that these elites are morally insane or simply unwise, but that’s a difficult case to make to someone who doesn’t acknowledge the reality of biologically-based racial differences, and most of them don’t. Many of them even profit handsomely from the societal changes they are helping induce, so they have their own motives independent of “brainwashing” or other convenient excuses. Government workers, churchmen, and professors of all types are in this category, and so is Lander himself. Ultimately, the soundest argument is probably the one that Johnson also gives: that these changes will undermine the very sorts of values that these elites pretend to love. That is doubtless true, but remember, they are only PRETENDING. Their actual aims are quite different, and in the last analysis, they are psychopaths who don’t care about principle anyway. Any solid Darwinian (and I trust there may be a few on this site from time to time, although it seems increasingly to be filled with nitwits) knows that these human games are about power, control of resources, and survival, not principle.
Just an FYI, Der weiße Engel is not to be trusted, he is a troll, as several commentators have pointed out. His intent is to sew dissention among Whites. He pushes a Marxist class based agenda that portrays historical White leaders as sadistic psychopaths. He is not pro-White.
But the double standard is not limited to mockery. In the present social climate, Whites and Whites alone are not allowed to think of ourselves as White unless we are mocking ourselves. Whites are not allowed to take pride in our race and its achievements.
BOBBY (doing his act based on the White Nationalist website): Okay, how many people here are lucky enough to be members of the Nordic subgroup of the Aryan race? Can I see some hands? (silence) Yeah, it’s tough being a white man these days, it’s tough. Folks, I’m so white, during the riots I went out and bought a television. (horrified gasps from the audience. Bobby taps the mike) Is this thing on?
@Der weiße Engel
“Ultimately, the soundest argument is probably the one that Johnson also gives: that these changes will undermine the very sorts of values that these elites pretend to love. That is doubtless true, but remember, they are only PRETENDING.”
Granted this is an extremely shallow and superficial group, but what evidence do you see that suggests they are only pretending to love their values? Judging from their actions and rhetoric, it seems clear that these Whites really do hate other Whites and love non-Whites. Essentially, these SWPL Whites are Whiggers but with high IQs and better exterior aesthetics. This class of Whites will never use their influence to help anyone who reads TOO no matter how high the tide of color rises. That’s wishful thinking.
LEW: “Granted this is an extremely shallow and superficial group, but what evidence do you see that suggests they are only pretending to love their values?”
It seems to me the truth of Johnson’s argument that they are ultimately undermining their own values must be apparent to them on some level, and if so, that’s means they are only pretending to love those things. In other words, they are race aware, but not in a good way. This awareness on their part is purely exploitative and self-interested. They’d like to breed themselves up a new class of helots, much like George Washington encouraged race-mixing among his White and black slaves. You could say this is still going on, only now on a grander, society-wide scale. Naturally, they view themselves as being in the master class, and they do what they can to remain there. They don’t see themselves ever falling or paying any price for their perfidy, and for any given individual, that may be correct. Of course, I’d also hasten to add that these are what we might refer to as instinctive aspirations of these elites and future elites. I’m not saying they exist on the level of conscious plans, at least for the vast majority of them.
LEW: “This class of Whites will never use their influence to help anyone who reads TOO no matter how high the tide of color rises. That’s wishful thinking.”
Yes, I agree with you here, and that’s why I too think that Johnson’s conclusion – that a point will be reached when both types of Whites will realize the threat and draw together – is overly optimistic.
These people really do value the things they value. I know these people. They are my kin, my friends, my neighbors. They really do like all the stuff white people like, and they think the rest of the world can and should like the same stuff too. And yes, they tolerate everything–everything that conforms to their norms. The only thing they cannot abide are “those [white] people” who just don’t get it.
I have to say that after considering all the angles of Mr. Lander’s work, possible motivations among other things, I admit that I hope when the big collapse hits he’s stuck in some urban area teeming with worked up non-whites. Non-whites worked up to go after you know what by you know who.
Der weiße Engel:Yes, I agree with you here, and that’s why I too think that Johnson’s conclusion – that a point will be reached when both types of Whites will realize the threat and draw together – is overly optimistic.
Adam gives himself away again. You busy proxy hopping and having ‘discussions’ with yourself to try and sing once again that whites will never draw together. Seems you’re very worried they will. Don’t forget the implacable technological system, lol.
Great article. I have been surrounded by white liberals for most of my life and I think (aside from the lunatic hard core) few are actually sincere in their political beliefs.
Holding liberal views is for most whites is simply a positional good (like a college degree) that enables them access professional and status opportunities otherwise unavailable in a Jew-controlled anti-white culture.
I’ve heard some astoundingly ‘racist’ (even for me as a white racial nationalist) private comments from people who publically towed the left-liberal-multiculturalist line. Most of it is pure posturing and opportunism.
If suddenly there was relative professional and financial advantage to gained by adopting a pro-white position, I think most would drop their leftism almost instantly.
The reality is that every white person with above average intelligence (liberal or conservative or whatever) knows that races differ in average intelligence. Even Tim Wise knows it.
All whites know that Haiti is a filthy toilet bowl of a nation because it is run by blacks. Get a few drinks in the average white liberal and the truth eventually comes out.
In vino veritas!
The rising tide of color does not scare America’s professional and plutocratic elites. Not yet, anyway.
The only thing that has ever scared them into something of an alliance with the white working and middle classes was the specter of Communism. It worked wonders in Italy and Germany.
At the end of Flannery O’Connor’s “A Good Man is Hard to Find” the mass murderer known only as “the Misfit” shoots an old woman who, in the last seconds of her life, suddenly saw for just a second beyond her all-consuming selfishness. The Misfit’s comment was: “She would have been a good woman if someone had been there to shoot her every minute of her life.”
The same is true of capitalists: They will be good citizens as long as the Reds are terrorizing them every minute of their lives.
We White Nationalists need communism, or its moral equivalent, if we are going to bring our elites in line.
On this point of White elites, what about the issue that there are “good” elites and “bad” elites as well? The average Texas oil millionaire used to be a very conservative fellow and quite nationalistic. So, of course, we Henry Ford. I remember reading that Howard Hughes once wrote a letter back in the 60s complaining that Americans had done quite enough for blacks in the USA. Is there an SWPL type distinction between the very rich Whites as well?
“The rising tide of color does not scare America’s professional and plutocratic elites. Not yet, anyway. ”
Statements like this always make me wonder, when did I start feeling the way I do about race identity, at least to the extent that I do now? When did I go from feeling annoyed/angry to beseiged? I think I can honestly say that it was NOT just the election of Obama, given how much I hated “W”. I’ve been visiting TOO’s blogs for about 6 months, but have felt this way a lot longer.
For lack of a better explanation, I think it was maybe when I had kids. It was then that I got the full inpact of modern society’s implied dictate that I’m not allowed to tell my own children that they should only marry other white people.
Greg Johnson: “We White Nationalists need communism, or its moral equivalent, if we are going to bring our elites in line.”
The question is, how can “White Nationalists” ever hope to bring “their” elites into line when elites have gone global, and indeed, most of them are no longer even human?
There are some good posts on this thread, but as usual, the technological context in which everything is taking place is being ignored. Consequently we have solutions being proposed that might have made sense in the 1930s, but now make no sense at all. Specifically, all this talk of elites and how to reform or replace them ignores the fact that the most important of these elites are no longer actual human beings, but rather, are international corporations. Corporations are a legal fiction, technical constructs that in law have most of the rights of a human being without actually being human. The result is a structure that has interests, but not racial, cultural, or national interests; and indeed, it is the preservation of those things to which its own interests are often diametrically opposed. Unlike the handful of rich oligarchs who ran things in the bygone age of nationalism, these international corporations are immortal and belong to no one race or nation; they are plutocratic and technocratic demigods that are completely oblivious to the concerns of nations, races, and cultures. Maximizing profit is their only goal, which makes corporate decision-making necessarily and irredeemably inhuman. Take, for example, the well-recognized economic principle that capital must flow to that point in the economy where it will receive the greatest return on investment. The directors of a corporation can’t arbitrarily decide not to comply with this principle, because if they do, then they will lose out in competition to others that don’t. The effect of this is that since all corporations have the same goal they end up trending in the same direction. This economic principle is in fact one of the main driving forces behind globalism and the de-industrialization of America. It’s not that one faction within the rich is in charge of another faction and calling the shots for them. It would be more accurate to say that these international corporations follow profit wherever it leads, and whatever the human cost, no matter who is nominally in charge. Moreoever, where national, cultural, or racial barriers to increased profit exist, they must try to circumvent or tear them down.
I am a Double Wrong Bad Wrong Kind of WP – cause I am a White Woman (we are supposed to be really really really nice to every-one – especially CP – , and we are supposed to agree with every-one, and bake cookies for every-one). I am university educated, I am racially awake – and I truly, deeply enjoy taunting Lander’s Sort of GWP, about their Race Treachery, and the consequences they will endure.
That said – old maps. Wow. Direct hit.
Yeah, the maps thing. Spooky.
The dude does know us. Let’s be fair.
German, there is no doubt that many Jews have pushed a destructive policy for Whites and they have provided the energy behind most of the anti-White movements. But I can’t really buy into the concept that America was really a Jewish colony from the beginning. I can’t believe in anything that would ascribe almost supernatural powers to Jews.
The other problem i see is this: If we say that early America and capitalism were really just Jewish conspiracies … well most people around the world will say, “gee, I wish the Jews had exploited us!” If the price to be paid is becoming the most powerful, wealthiest nation on earth, with the highest standard of living (say America by 1965), well that doesn’t really sound like misery.
I think the evidence is that free market capitalism and the industrial revolution evolved first in Great Britain for the reasons that Gregory Clark outlined (genetic and cultural changes in the British people and surrounding Europeans).
Check the evidence Sombart gives for yourself:
http://www.mailstar.net/sombart.html
And don’t forget: The “founding fathers” were mostly freemasons. Fremasonry is controlled by the Jews now and was controlled by Jews then.
And for your argument that Jews seem quite beneficial if they were behind America’s rise to the most powerful empire: Yes, Jews make things happen. But there is always a big hangover after the party is over.
‘”It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.’ Translation: White people will always be on top and in control.”
Gooooood insight; good observation.
This article is awesome.
“When the shit hits the fan, our snotty brethren are going to be deciding what they do with us. I don’t have any illusions about that. The city folk didn’t starve in the USSR, the country folk did. And the “right kind of white people” will be sending their pet blacks and browns out to strip the “wrong kind of whites” to the bone.”
The Bolsheviks killed the educated Russians first. I think the SWPLs will be the first into the gulags if it comes to that.
Old maps though. Freaky. I love old maps.
America wasn’t a jewish colony from the beginning because there wasn’t enough of them until the big migration started in the 1880s.
Jews don’t need the numbers. They only need to control the money supply and know how to rule by proxy.
Read the American equivalent to Marr’s “Der Sieg des Judentums über das Germanentum”, the excellent study “The Great Red Dragon, or London money power” written 1890 by the American Woolfolk. In it he shows that America was completely owned by Jewish finance before the immigration you speak of:
http://www.archive.org/details/greatreddragonor00wool
“In it he shows that America was completely owned by Jewish finance before the immigration you speak of:”
The 1924 immigration act says different.
Banking gives a lot of influence – proportional to debt – but that isn’t the same as ruling – especially if there isn’t a lot of debt.
Well, the problem I see describing America as a Jewish colony from the beginning (say 300 years ago?) is that by the same logic wouldn’t you have to describe Great Britain as a Jewish empire going back centuries? And wouldn’t most of continental Europe also have to be called a Jewish controlled province for the last 500 years or so, since the advent of big Jewish banking houses?
Then there are questions about the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution – were these Jewish conspiracies as well? They all seem to be logical developments in English common law and Enlightenment ideals.
What about the Alamo, the acceptance of Texas into the US, the Louisiana Purchase, the acquisition of California, the settler movement onto the frontier, Andrew Jackson’s destruction of the US central bank – it can’t all have been a Jewish conspiracy.
And again, if Jews gave America such amazing wealth, freedom and power for 300 years, they hardly seem like cruel masters. That’s an awful long time to wait for a payoff.
I notice the book you reference describes Vanderbilt as an agent of “Jew Money Power”. This seems to be stretching things quite a lot. Having read a biography of Vanderbilt, he had a life trajectory that is independent of where he may have received financing at various times. He was a self made man. And most of these industrialists did radically improve American life – are all of them agents of “Jew Power”?
Certainly Henry Ford wasn’t an agent of Jewish influence. Henry Ford, for example, became concerned with Jewish influence and his approach seems fairly reasonable. But he didn’t describe the whole country as a Jewish colony dating back to the 1700s or 1600s. Again, by referring to anything remotely touched by Jewish banking, what on earth wouldn’t be under Jewish control.
Or Chinese control these days. Or Japanese control. Of course, everything I mention is a problem I have with most Grand Conspiracy Theories that span centuries. I’ll keep looking through the book and the site, but for me, it strains credulity.
Woolfolk gives convincing evidence that Vanderbilt was an agent of the London (Jewish) money power. You can’t ignore this just because it doesn’t fit in in your school picture of history!
Ford was a freesmason. His “anti-semitism” might have been a ploy to bolster anti-semitism in Germany (Hitler was a big fan of Ford). Ford, the “great anti-communist”, build a huge truck factory in the SU, so he did his best in undermining the German war effort. And nowadays the Ford foundation is the biggest supporter of the Jewish agenda. I have never have read a convincing description how the Jews took over the Ford-family. So Henry Ford might not have been what he seemed.
I know, it is hard to lose your heroes, you have to be very brave now.
And of course: The Bristh Empire was a Jewish conrolled Empire. Britain was taken over by the Jews in the “glorious Revolution” which led to the foundation of a Jewish controlled central bank in 1694.
I have no problem to admit that Germany was completely controlled by the Jews since Bismarck (and probably a lot earlier). So everybody has to get rid of his fantasy-picture of history which is supported out of vanity!
I find it incredible that the US has been under Jewish control from the very start. Yeah, Hamilton can’t help but have been influenced by Jewish ethics–but Madison? Jefferson? Jay? Certainly, the Anti-Federalists had a strong sense of ethnic identity and a strong desire to preserve it. There was already strong Jewish business interest by the time of the Civil War, but there was a also a desire and ability to openly resist it–and I see no great attempt by Jewish interests to alter the culture (in this country) until the rise of the labor movement and the Rosa Luxembourg types.
@Jeff Maylor – Having spent some time in China, I can say they don’t control the world. In fact, nearly any young Chinese person will openly tell you that they believe that Asians are smarter than whites–except for Jews, who are responsible for all our accomplishments. (I did all I could to dissuade this view.) I suspect that most of these “Kaifeng Jews” now coming out of the woodwork are frauds looking to get int with what they see as the most powerful group in the world.
But what is very interesting is that even within China, the Jews have had disproportionate influence. Walking along the Bund in Shanghai, one can see on side of the art-deco skyscrapers the tarnished brass placards of the Jewish bankers who built them (Sassoon, et al.). So the Jews were on the side of the KMT? Of course not, the Voitinsky and Radek were responsible for establishing the Communist party there. Even while China was “closed” and the Sino-Soviet split had occurred, Israel Epstein was a member of the CCP and publishing a newspaper there. Given the Chinese xenophobia, this is really remarkable.
I asked Lander “What percentage of White people are White people?” and he answered “90%”
What does that mean? If it’s a SWPL joke I don’t get it.
White liberals are crypto jews. White liberals, yuppies, the right kind of white people are code words for crypto jews. Just ask yourself: who are the “right kind of white people?” Answer: jews. Who loves Starbucks? Jews. Who loves “Christian” Lander and SWPL? White liberal jews.
Do you think crypto jews are going to go around calling themselves cryptos? No. They have to use code words to distinguish themselves from the “wrong kind of white people.” Some code words for the “wrong kind of white people” are redneck, white trash, trailer trash, white nationalist. The only white people who hate white people are jews and they have hated us since the Eden when God declared “emnity” between the woman’s (Eve’s) seed and the serpent’s seed. Jews hate white people and that’s what superior-acting white people are–supremacist jews. Some people at this blog don’t seem to understand or accept the concept of cryptojudaism. There are probably more crypto jews in the US than there are known jews and it suits their jewish superiority complex to cloak themselves in the elitist label white liberals.
I don’t want to be discouraging but real white people are already a minority in the US (the biblical word is remnant.) We are nowhere near a majority in this country and that’s WHY we’re being persecuted and discriminated against and can’t do anything about it.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Walter.White/Who.Brought.the.Slaves.to.America.htm
Alexander Hamilton was a crypto jew. Slave trader Aaron Lopez was a marano crypto jew.
Lander denying he is a jew though wearing a Hebrew school t-shirt is the kind of mocking games crytpo jews play against whites Like all cryptos, he’ll never admit it voluntarily. They have to be forced out of the closet through geneological research or DNA test.
I refuse to patronize Judebucks. I love coffee, in all it’s infinite varieties. The Coffee is the Life!
but I try to avoid Paying the Jew as much as possible. So Judebucks es verboten.
“Lander denying he is a jew though wearing a Hebrew school t-shirt is the kind of mocking games crytpo jews play against whites Like all cryptos, he’ll never admit it voluntarily. ”
Interesting.
It is true, isn’t it, that it’s a very “jewy” trait to make a positive statement in a very sarcastic tone, knowing the goyim will assume the sarcastic tone means the positive statement is false. It’s like they enjoy playing a game. They love to leave little hints for the observant — tell the goys the truth and see who’s too dumb to believe it.
Isn’t the very name Christian Lander a little inside joke in itself?
When open and violent armed rebellion finally starts, those snotty liberal whites better be looking over their shoulders. They and their families are going to find out how vengeful whites are going to be towards them, along with the Zionists and non-whites too. That is because I and millions of less well off whites are well aware of exactly who has sold them down the river, and that will not be forgotten when the bloodletting starts!
“Isn’t the very name Christian Lander a little inside joke in itself?”
Hm.
I was thinking maybe he’s implying he lives in Christian lands, which makes him a Christian-land-er, but he himself is NOT Christian.
What struck me is that the good liberal of SWPL is just like the stupid Christian, easily duped. In fact he is actually the same person. Fastidious. Lots of fussy little pre-occupations that don’t amount to anything. Always correct in his behavior. Can’t you see SWPL as a swipe at those very traits the Jews see in us?
“It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.” — Christian Lander
He might want to ask a few million dead White Christians murdered in Soviet Russia at the hands of Jewish Bolsheviks and Stalinists about that. Indeed, the murderous, morally superior, fire in the minds of left-wingers ultimately led to the deaths even more millions, this time Asians, at the hands of “progressives” like Pol Pot and Mao.
That’s really the main problem and danger of politically correct, liberal capitalist system-indoctrinated Whites: they’re utterly self-absorbed, and incredibly ignorant of true history.
I liked the hand sanitizer/bumper sticker hate rant at the end of the article.
What a degenerate.
Darwinian theory is instructive in the case of these white traitors.
Having looked at TWINS studies very carefully it is clear to me that political ideologies are genetically linked. So these so-called whites should not be considered part of any White/Aryan breeding program. It would be like deliberately continuing unhealthy strains of a dog breed.
They are not of us, they are not US. They are something else and evolution is leading the real White/Aryan onward and upward, i.e. WE are evolving a NEW race, a true White/Aryan race.
The so-called Whites, and their adoration of the jew Lander, are on the path of extinction and I say, GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH.
Christian Lander eating an everything bagel in Mar Vista, Los Angeles, California in 2008
Well, to be honest, I don’t see much evidence of evolution among us, I hate to say it, but I see much evidence of devolution. Optimism is fine, but it should have some basis in reality, otherwise it is harmful in the long run.
Apparently the embedded image didn’t show in the above post
here is the link, he looks EXACTLY like an Orthodox jew I once knew, amazing resemblance.
Christian Lander eating an everything bagel in Mar Vista, Los Angeles, California in 2008, photo taken by js lander
He does look very Jewish to me – must be some Semitic genes mixed in there somewhere.
Christian Lande may be a crypto-Jew (he looks quite Jewish) but to say that all White liberals are crypto-Jews goes much too far. There are dupes. No doubt about that.
I also went to a Christian Lander book signing recently. Like you, I also have mixed feelings about the guy, but fundamentally I see him and his work as positive.
As a White guy somewhere between an SWPL and the archetype of implicit White identity depicted by Weird Al in his video “White and Nerdy”, I kinda wonder where the hostility toward White liberals is really coming from. Are White liberals really worse than militantly Zionist, MLK-worshipping White conservatives? Is the farmer’s market somehow a less valid icon of White identity than the NASCAR stadium? One thing Lander said at the book signing that really resonated with me, is that conservatives are incapable of satirizing the left because they really do not understand the left at all. That is definitely apparent in some of the comments in this thread, as well as what you read around the racialist blogs in general. Having self-identified as a liberal at one point, and having talked about race with both liberals and conservatives in real life, I think there is essentially no truth to the concept that conservative = racialist and liberal = anti-racist.
I definitely agree with what you wrote about racialism needing to incorporate both liberal and conservative Whites. I will go one step further: getting liberals on our side is more important. Realistically, most White people with triple-digit IQs are liberal. Most White people who have read a book in the last 6 months are liberal. Just compare the intellectual levels that liberal and conservative media outlets shoot for. PBS is more intelligent than Fox News. NPR is more intelligent than Rush Limbaugh. TED talks are more intelligent than… wait, there is nothing conservative even remotely comparable to TED, in fact the idea of it is hard to even imagine. Let’s face it: liberals are the people who matter most. These are the people who have the potential to put up some resistance to Jewish domination of the West. Accomplishing that is going to require ideas, media, art, music, etc. much more than it will require military tactics and survivalist training. Conservatives are clearly not cut out for this task.
Another thing, is that if we accept that Jews and non-Whites dominate the left, the only logical conclusion to draw from that is that White liberals are actually not very powerful right now. Thus, blaming White liberals for our present mess is completely irrational. In fact, the most vociferous critics of “SWPLs” seem to be Jews: HBD bloggers like Half Sigma, Mencius Moldbug, and Whiskey come to mind.
As far as Lander’s motivations – frankly, I think this guy could be a closet racialist. Something in the book you didn’t mention in your review (unless I missed it), is the flowchart on page 152-153, “How to Win Arguments with White People”, where if all else fails, the last step is “Call them racist” which inevitably leads to victory. Steve Sailer has also claimed that Lander is a regular reader of his blog, and while Steve is not exactly a WN, most of the readers of his blog tend more toward our side than average. And ultimately, Lander’s work promotes the idea that it is okay for White people to have a sense of identity, and even if he has to make a few compromises to do that, I see it as undoubtedly a good thing.
“It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.” — Christian Lander
I’m rethinking that quote in light of the possibility that Lander is a crypto Jew. Perhaps what he means here is that the murder of millions of Whites would NOT be an unhappy outcome; indeed, that it would be a HAPPY outcome for him and his ilk for the same reasons outlined by anti-White, Jewish racist Tim Wise.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/11/04/letter-from-tim-wise/
And if he’s not a crypto Jew, it just goes to show how anti-White racist, anti-Christian and anti-Western civilization left-liberalism has become. It seems to have internalized organized Jewry’s misanthropic, warped view of history and the world.
Bravo Bravo..Greg a fine peice comrad. I am so glad to have met you. Thank you
“It is always OK to make fun of White people, because no unhappy ending is possible.” — Christian Lander
“He might want to ask a few million dead White Christians murdered in Soviet Russia at the hands of Jewish Bolsheviks and Stalinists about that.”
Actually – maybe that’s what he meant?
Wandrin, we need to find a way to re-introduce the ethnic component of Bolshevism to the general public. Because your point is exactly right: Whites have suffered at the hands of non-Whites before, as in the case of the predominantly Jewish Bolsheviks killing Gentile Whites. But not 1 person in a 100 knows that. If just that point was understood by more people it would make a tremendous difference.
I think the argument needs to be sophisticated enough to account for the fact that not every Bolshevik was Jewish and that some Soviet dictators may have turned the state against some Jews at a later point. But we can definitely say the Communist movement was extremely overrepresented by Jews.
Most people have no clue about this. And it doesn’t even require presenting it to the “uninitiated” in some anti-Jewish style. It can simply be presented as an interesting part of Jewish history and Soviet history. In time, people connect the dots.
Doesn’t anyone have a sense of humor? I checked out that stuff white people like site and it’s pretty apparent the whole thing is a big joke that rips to shreds the pretenses of those people. The author rips them to shreds, the whole thing is sarcasm. It reminds me completely of the South Park sense of humor, misanthropic nihilism. Lander understands human nature, especially that of white liberals, a whole lot better than the conspiracy theory rejects who spout their nonsense over here. “Henry Ford was a disinformation agent”??? Common, that sounds like something Farrakhan’s followers would believe. The proper response to “If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…” is not “It’s probably a Cardassian secret agent who had plastic surgery.”
Good point. Maybe he should change the name of his shtick to:
Stuff Dumb Goy White Liberals Who Are Easily Hoodwinked By Us Jewish Predators Like, And How To Manipulate Them Even Further By Pretending To Identify With Their Interests.
Jewry just loves to mock Gentiles while simultaneously looking them in the eye with ironic sincerity and then taking them to the cleaners — yet even more proof that this clown is kosher.
Nightowl I agree. He is mocking a certain type of White person and a certain type of White culture. Non-Jews do this kind of thing all the time. I’ve seen the Japanese mock aspects of Japanese culture, Southern Whites make fun of their own accents, etc. That may be my biggest criticism I have of WNs in general – the tendency to think some mode of behavior is only possible for Jews or “Judaized Whites” – LOL.
There is not such thing as a behavior practiced ONLY by one group of people. The main issue is how prevalent the behavior is among one group versus another. For example, Blacks have intelligence, just not as much as Whites. And Whites can run fast, just not as fast as Blacks from certain regions of Africa. So Jews do have a suite of traits that are distinctive but not unknown to other groups.
So, not every last thing in the culture is a Jewish conspiracy. But at the same time, Jews do have enormous influence and it needs to be recognized. I guess it’s a subtle distinction (for some), but it’s necessary if we are to understand what’s really going on.
@ Jeff,
I think you underestimate a) the power of mass media to manipulate culture, and consequently political perspective and outcome; and b) the extent to which Jewry perniciously influences mass media in order to poison the well against Whites, liberty, and Christianity, and has in America for decades. A lot of Americans have absolutely zero idea how Judaized they have indeed become in a lobotomized Frankenstein/Noahide sort of way, which is a big part of the problem with this country — why nothing seems to get through.
Based on his site, and apparently his book, it’s obvious that Lander knows politically correct left-liberalism inside and out, and yes, seems to be ridiculing it to a certain extent. Perhaps he’s Jewish, and mocking White liberal Gentiles, or perhaps he’s simply sub-consciously sick to death of P.C. left-liberalism and its stifling, frigid speech codes.
But bottom line: he’s vested in the statist-liberal, Judaized status quo, and in a roundabout way is validating it. (“Look at us, we’re so progressive we can even poke fun at ourselves.”) This might all be innocuous fun if that same system wasn’t so murderously warmongering, corrupt, on the road to totalitarianism, and taking this country straight over a cliff.
But hey, don’t be so uptight about all that, dude — or so the Jon Stewart, Christian Lander, South Park hipster, Judeo-liberal shtick goes.
“In an America ruled by Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Hindus, and Muslims of all races”. WTF:”Mr. Greg Johnson, I liked your article until I came to this part. Since you “DON’T” know I’ll remind you.
AMERICA IS RULED BY THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How’s that caffeine Martin?
“Lander” is a Jewish-German surname. You can be fairly certain that “Christian” Lander is a crypto-Kike.
http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=270:who-did-911-obl-bush-or-mossad-the-evidences&catid=58:the-911-event&Itemid=115
Oops, I posted the wrong link. Here’s the correct one:
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Lander-family-history.ashx
No, “ZOG”. You can’t be fairly certain of that. Your own link suggests that the name can be either ethnically German or ethnically Jewish. A quick scan of the wikis for every famous “Lander” showed that the solid majority of them were non-Jewish. If a person doesn’t look Jewish, denies being Jewish, and there’s no credible evidence of him being Jewish, then he’s not Jewish.
You make us look stupid with this hateful and paranoid garbage.
“Wandrin, we need to find a way to re-introduce the ethnic component of Bolshevism to the general public.”
Yes but the first step (imo) is to re-introduce the Bolshevik holocaust itself from the memory hole. I do it all the time now whenever Nazis or the holocaust comes up i start talking about the Bolsheviks and how that holocaust isn’t taught in the schools.
“And it doesn’t even require presenting it to the “uninitiated” in some anti-Jewish style. It can simply be presented as an interesting part of Jewish history and Soviet history. In time, people connect the dots.”
Yes, it’s too big a pill for people to swallow in one go. What i do is break things little into pieces and talk about them at separate times.
That makes sense … reintroduce the holocaust that the Bolsheviks perpetrated in the first place. Everything flows from that.
I’m not an intellectual especially. But my take on it is that this guy’s basically a kind of White snob, and he’s but together a canon for White snobs. Is that it?
He has put together a canon for white snobs that gentle mocks their snobbery and inauthenticity.
Chris Moore, well definitely agree it’s serious. Jewish influence and power are quite real. And the power of the media is enormous. I just don’t think every single thing we see is part of a conspiracy. So, this guy and his book are very interesting, but not necessarily part of a conscious conspiracy. I’m not even sure that it would make any difference if it was or wasn’t. And yes, the Jon Stewart types try to convince us their influence isn’t to be taken seriously (i.e. examined) and that is obviously self serving. I despise Stewart, but again, I don’t think he literally goes to a secret meeting and gets orders. But he has a strong sense of sensibilities and a subculture that guide his actions – even if he did marry a gentile.
What is a “Judaized” person by the way? I don’t really get the impression that religion means that much to most Jewish Americans. It seems to be more of a cultural phenomenon more than anything else, a way for them to stick together.
@ Jeff: “I just don’t think every single thing we see is part of a conspiracy.”
Neither do I, but by the same token, not everything is black and white. There are shades of gray. And indoctrination can be a subtle process.
“What is a “Judaized” person by the way?”
For a few hours a day, put a group of ten Gentile adolescents who have been divorced from Christianity in front of Seinfeld, Comedy Central, South Park, MTV, The E! Channel, BET, MSNBC, etc. and various other Sumner Redstone-esque products, and in five years, look at the results.
Re: WTSHTF
It is far more likely that SWPLs will cease to exist overnight WTSHTF. There won’t be a market anymore for their preferred type of lifestyle or their type of employment which largely consists of staring at a computer screen all day in a cubicle. They don’t have the skills, knowledge, or kinship networks to adapt to post-collapse conditions.
For starters, Peak Oil would ground all these little uppity, sweater wearing girliemen wherever they are presently located, which is likely to be an urban metropole dominated by blacks and Hispanics. Blacks and Hispanics would then form gangs and rob, rape, and murder these unarmed, defenseless liberal yuppies blind after starving mobs sack all the local convenience stores and supermarkets and the food supply runs out.
SWPLs will go the way of the dodo in a collapse.
As for the country folk, they are heavily armed and most of them have spent their whole lives practicing with firearms. The military is disproportionately drawn from their ranks. A dissolving military would filter out back into the Heartland. The country folk also have vast resources to fall back on like farmland and ample wild game.
Hurricanes strike the Gulf Coast all the time. It was telling that chaos erupted in New Orleans in Louisiana but not in Mississippi which endured the full brunt of the storm. The rednecks in Mississippi would have annihilated the criminals there if they had taken advantage of the situation.
Cities like Los Angeles are the places that have riots.
If the collapse were ever to happen, I am willing to bet $1,000 that the Whites who take the brunt of the fall will be SWPLs. I would literally bet the farm on it!
Yes, I find it amusing to consider an online post I read where Tim Wise smugly claimed that he wouldn’t live in the suburbs if it was free, that he was merely a freeway exit away from the main black neighborhood in Nashville (isn’t he saintly?), and that his daughters go to a majority POC school.
Heh heh. Pretentious twit.
“How’s that caffeine Martin?”
Hey Jeff,
I only quoted Benjamin Netanyahu, former Prime Minister of
renown country of Israhell.
The notion that rural and small-town White Americans are dramatically more prepared than urban White Americans can only be the product of a vivid imagination or a lack of familiarity with one or the other.
As we saw with New Orleans, urban Whites are not only capable of fending for themselves, they’re also prepared to defend themselves.
http://www.thenation.com/article/katrinas-hidden-race-war
While my origins and allegiances are with rural Whites, I don’t have any misconceptions about how woefully unprepared and how pervasively dependent on welfare many of them have become. Sure, the landed country gentleman with a survival strategy and a subsistence garden will do fine. But what about all those trailers at the end of long gravel roads deep in the woods? Don’t those folks rely on electricity and natural gas? Don’t they shop at Wal*Mart? If anything, they’ll be even more hosed by a breakdown in our infrastructure than those diabolical SWPLs.
We all keep talking about urban Whites vs country Whites … but shouldn’t we add most suburban Whites to the category of “our” kind of Whites? Of course, some suburban and exurban Whites are liberal, but I believe a majority are conservative. So it isn’t really like country folk would be all alone against “the machine”. Most of the Whites that support the Tea Party would defend themselves vigorously – and are those city, country or suburban people? Probably a mix but I bet a lot of suburban types.
Hey guys
Britain is covered in snow!
From N.Scotland to the English Channel,
Britain is all White!
nice.
I went to the Planetarium last friday and the Astronomer gave a presentation showing we are at a sunspot minimum right now. Sunspot minimums are associated with colder temperatures historically. They mean the sun’s magnetic field is at it’s weakest in a usual 11 year cycle of oscillation. The climate varies wildly, scientists know this. Gore is jumping to wishful conclusions with his global warming hoax in order to put leftist bureaucrats in charge of everyone.
I’m not too worried that the S is going to HTF any time soon, but let’s say it did: what would that do to weaken the intense loyalty that rural Christian Whites have to Jews and Israel? Not much that I can tell.
I wonder if there could be the beginning of a fissure between Jews and White Christians in America. It would only be a small beginning. I was watching Hannity (the ultimate Christian Zionist that knows where his bread is buttered) and the issue of changing the name of some parade in Oklahoma came up – changing it from Christmas Parade to “Holiday” Parade.
Everyone was offended by the name change, except, the one Jewish person on the panel. Even Bob Beckel, the fat liberal democrat was against it and actually made a passing reference to the arguments that he and Jewish inlaws had over issues like this (I was surprised he would mention it).
I’ve been amazed how offended many White Christians are by the removal of the word “Christ” from any “holiday” activities. Maybe on some primitive unconscious level, they realize their culture is being taken from them. Getting them to face just WHO is behind the anti-Christmas crusade would be fruitful.
I think it’s a bit strange how glibly this is repeated and accepted on this site. What percentage of rural Protestants actually blindly support Israel? I can’t imagine that many who attend Presbyterian or Methodist or Baptist churches too. Granted, by the very nature of some of the evangelical/fundamentalist churches, each pastor is a pope in miniature–and I suspect that many mega-church pastors have been bribed outright. But the dispensationalist theology that underpins total dedication to Israel has been, to my understanding, a minority view even among Southern fundamentalist/evangelical Protestants. I think that the growth of this view is very modern, and very overstated. I’m not an expert in Protestant theology, so maybe someone could give a better explanation.
I do think though that the decline of the ‘mainline’ Protestant churches has been a disaster both for morality and for notions of ethnic identity in this county. Despite the fact that I prefer apostolic churches, for the greater good, I would welcome the resurrection of the Presbyterians, Methodists, and Lutherans in their traditional forms.
I don’t think they’d get hustled so easily by Rabbi Eckstine’s commercials on Fox News.
RE: WTSHTF/ Reaction of Urban Whites after Katrina
Although I am in agreement with Matt’s overall point, I do not believe that New Orleans after Katrina tells us anything useful about how Lander’s class of urban Whites will react under adverse conditions. I live in New Orleans and can verify the “wrong” kind of Whites live in the neighborhoods and communities where looting Blacks were turned back by force. Accordingly, I believe the correct conclusion for nationalists is that the “wrong” kind of Whites are likely to defend themselves under adverse conditions whether urban or rural.
Of course, this does not mean that Lander’s urban Whites will not defend themselves under similar adverse conditions just that post-Katrina events are not good evidence that they will. The neighborhoods where Lander’s Whites are concentrated were never threatened by hordes of displaced Blacks so we don’t know how they would have reacted.
I had a chuckle the way the site described my sister. She has this mandatory oreo cookie black friend that she drags around to photo ops the way television commercials include the mandatory negro. Even before I ever read any internet racial analysis, me and my brother laughed and knew exactly what was going on, it was to “prove” she’s not racist. Also with marriage and family her gay friends have changed from the promiscuous theater bums to a “nice gay couple” who own a house they share with their miniature breed dog. Her “childrearing” techniques are also so “stuffwhitepeoplelike” silly, she reads also those second generation “Spockesque” books, taking all that “timeout-no spanking” drivel seriously. Her young son was climbing the drapes and throwing books and dishes off the shelf onto the floor. Instead of a good spanking, shes reasoning with a 3 year old as if this were a debating society. She also “plans out” all those white people activities for her kids like dance class for a four year old. When the poor kids came over it was clear all they wanted to do was take it easy at the local playground and watch tv. Instead they got dragged to the science museum. Mexicans must chuckle at the absolute silliness white people go through with their kids, it’s like putting a thousand dollar bag of ground dinosaur bones to fertilize your “organic” tomatoes when all you need is a bag of miracle gro for $2.99 down at K-mart.
Nightowl, interesting story about your sister, I think sharing these personal stories helps us flesh this all out. I think we’ve all noticed that women go along with the PC much more enthusiastically. I think we’ve all been annoyed by it. We’ve probably also seen White women scolding White men for not having the “proper” attitude. Amazing.
It might be good to give women a copy of the novel Disgrace (in which the protagonists daughter is gang raped by Africans) in order to get a glimpse of their future. The guy who wrote it, Coetzee is a Leftist, but it is still powerful, although depressing.
I’ve always thought that the cure for being enthralled by a few black people, is to be around a ton of black people. That sometimes takes some of the enthusiasm out of it.
‘I’ve always thought that the cure for being enthralled by a few black people, is to be around a ton of black people. That sometimes takes some of the enthusiasm out of it.’
Absolutely Jeff. A week in some hellhole like Haiti or any country in Sub-Saharan Africa is very likely to cure most SANE whites of any romantic notions regarding blacks. I travelled to southern Africa a decade ago and it helped me to see race in a whole new light and totally shattered any notions of racial equality I might have previously entertained.
Nightowl,
This discussion reminds of a SWPL female I work with. This gal has children bearing the obligatory SWPL names like Taylor and Brandon, is an eager fag hag, and has shown herself willing to engage in casual office sex with an American Indian (despite being married). Every Monday she very loudly relates to her fag friend – and anyone else who is in range – her “awesome” and “amazing” weekend experiences, most of which revolve around some pathetically plastic outing that she took her kids to. She affects to be cultured by listening to Marvin Gay for music, NPR for news/opinion and other things of the like. She aspires to immense intellectual importance by “talking to think,” a habit that is designed to keep her “persona” forever in your face. She can blabber ad infinitum on almost any subject, especially those she knows nothing about. Of course, the mask slips occasionally when she’s had an unpleasant commute to work, and we all get to witness how nasty she can be. She is subversive of authority and will simply ignore any task that she doesn’t want to do. The male boss, who was at first hopelessly infatuated with her, now regrets his decision to hire her. But, she’s ingratiated herself with the higher ups, thus negating the boss’s opinion. Last but not least, she will steal anyone else’s work/ideas/product and shamelessly claim exclusive credit for it. Needless to say, WTSHTF one sincerely hopes for her to receive her just desserts.
I don’t know. I’ve see pictures of numerous female friends who go on “study abroad” (which are basically secular liberal mission trips) to sub-Saharan Africa beaming while holding black babies. I suspect that these girls are told that the suffering in these countries is due to the ever lingering effects of colonialism. Most of these girls come back here and start dating black guys to right these wrongs.
The race suicide impulse is definately much stronger in white women – there’s some underlying psychological mechanism at work that we don’t fully understand.
Matt Parrott
“If a person doesn’t look Jewish, denies being Jewish, and there’s no credible evidence of him being Jewish, then he’s not Jewish.”
And Jews never lie to the goyim do they. They don’t “wage war by deception.” Jews don’t recite Kol Nidre 3 times every year.
Have you been accepting donations from people with names like Miller, Smith, Harris, Lander? Just curious.
I definitely could be rolling in secret Jew gold for all you know. Hell, I could be a secret Jew, cleverly disguised as a hillbilly populist. Or perhaps you’re a secret Jew spewing paranoia to confuse and humiliate us. Or perhaps this website is an elaborate exercise in controlled opposition, sidetracking us from the important work of ferreting out the innumerable secret Jews running deep game so deep that only your eagle eye can detect it.
I’m not going to lie, the notion that a website like this could be part of a 100 flowers campaign has crossed my mind…
Jeff Maylor:
*German, the only thing I might disagree with is the idea that SWPLs are only the tame pets of Jews, although I see why you say that. However, this type of White person has been influential in the US long before Jews had much impact. MacDonald has discussed the native “culture of critique” that grew up in the United States long ago. The abolitionists in the North are an example. I think it’s important to remember this because, if true, even if there were zero Jewish influence on Whites, we would still have a problem. Here is MacDonald’s paper on the “INDIGENOUS CULTURE OF CRITIQUE” :*
I believe the Jews are the most dangerous weapon the “right kind” of Whites use against the “wrong kind” of Whites. And when I say that, I mean in a double-edged sword kind of way.
This unholy alliance between the two groups reminds me of that Alfred Hitchcock episode where two insurance agents are tailing this elderly couple and it is revealed that HE is a Cinderella Serial Killer and SHE is a Black Widow. It’s a matter of whether SHE takes a bath before HE eats breakfast. Too bad it can’t be a draw.
In any case, I think the best course for “the wrong kind” of Whites is NOT to give their allegiance to or expect any allegiance from “the right kind” of Whites and ignore any “helpful advice” from Jewish “social justice” advocates like Tick Tock Wise.
The dirty little secret is NOT a race war; that’s been pretty much out in the open FOREVER. No. It is the undeclared class war that “the right kind of” Whites have declared on “the wrong kind of” Whites. The SWPL don’t consider Jews, Asians, Negros or Mestizos their competition and that’s why they aren’t hostile to minority interests. They are hostile to US.
Athanasius, that is disturbing. I know some White women really fall in love with helping blacks. But I still think most White people, including women, get turned off blacks if they truly have to suffer typical black behavior.
Great article & I appreciate someone in the media writing what needs to be written. Thanks!
Well, that is an unfortunate way in which people’s Christian sense of altruism can be hijacked and manipulated to serve unfortunate ends. I’m not opposed to wanting to ease suffering in Africa–but at the same time, people should be grateful that we are not Africa. On other side of the coin, the purveyors of mass media know how to manipulate evolutionarily encoded emotions. Think about how both entertainment and sports emphasize the hyper-masculinity of black men. The repeated transmission of this message can’t help but affect females… Particularly when their white male peers idolize these people. I’m sure all the black guys with harems of white girls in high school and even moreso in university, have all the idiots wearing LeBron jersey’s to thank. An acquaintance of mine, who is from a very wealthy family and is very attractive (but not particularly smart) posted pictures of herself partying in the Hamptons, all smiles, with NBA players…not a month later and she starts dating a black guy.
Speaking of sports (and it’s no coincidence who the commissioners of both the NBA and MLB are)… I can see how in the 1930′s and 1940′s in urban America, baseball was extremely popular among immigrant groups like the Italians, who got to see their co-ethnics thrive against WASPs who dominated them economically. Likewise, I can see how Midwestern and Pennsylvania Poles, Hungarians, Slovaks, and Ukrainians loved to watch professional football dominated by people who looked and sounded just like their co-workers at the plant of steel mill. These feelings (and similar feelings among Southerners and New Englanders (when the latter still had them)) are the origin of the sports mania we have in this country. But today, while the sports mania remains, its ends are turned upside down… and people root for largely uncivilized and hostile blacks!
Clytemnestra, that is a great analogy from Hitchcock! It also brings to mind the fact that Whites can also have their own ethnic conflicts with each other … I wonder if we forget about that.
It’s been said that the Civil War was a reenactment of the American Revolution in some ways and that both of these go back to a Cousins War that took place in England back in the 1600s — the civil war between the Roundheads (supporters of the parliament and Cavaliers (who supported the crown). As I understand it there was an ethnic dimension to that war as well, meaning Whites from different parts of England.
Jeff Maylor wrote:
“It’s been said that the Civil War was a reenactment of the American Revolution in some ways and that both of these go back to a Cousins War that took place in England back in the 1600s — the civil war between the Roundheads (supporters of the parliament and Cavaliers (who supported the crown). As I understand it there was an ethnic dimension to that war as well, meaning Whites from different parts of England.”
My paternal line is from Ohio. My great-great grandfather was a yeoman farmer who was drafted into the Union during the Civil War. The story is that, at one point, he got cut off from his unit and narrowly escaped ending up as a POW, because he spoke fluent French and the ragtag Confederates who found him assumed he was from Louisiana. Like many other White working class Yankees who feared competing for work with a Negro slave class or underclass, he fought under the implicit understanding that Negro slaves would immediately be repatriated back to Africa. Had he known that enfranchisement, not repatriation was to follow emancipation, he would have probably run to Canada rather than be bothered.
Because of my yeoman farmer stock, the irony of the large slave owners and planters are still romanticized, not only in the South and the Southern white working and yeoman class who never owned a single slave are scapegoated and punished by all Americans, regardless of color, with the nasty racist redneck label.
I have no respect whatsoever for the “right kind of” White people, like those featured in SWPL. Moreover, I prefer the tag that the bloggist at SBPDL (Stuff Black People Don’t Like) gave them; DWL (Disingenuous White Liberal)s. It is much more apt.
We need to rid ourselves of any illusions that DWLs can reach any kind of accord with White Nationalism. The correct lens to view these people through is Alduous Huxley’s Brave New World. Lander and his ilk consider themselves as Alphas. Now I know there are Jews vying for that title, but to DWLs, Jews and Asians are Betas. I look at the history of violent Jew expulsions and I am inclined to think that they occur after Jews forget their Beta standing and get too uppity. Then and ONLY THEN do the Alphas allow White Nationalists to purge the nation … for a little while … and then they invite the Jews back in again.
The Alphas want to keep the White Middle to Working class as a small, marginal and shaky Gamma-Delta majority so that Alphas can keep sniveling about poor, oppressed minorities under their protection and scold the G-D majority for so-called White Privilege. Mestizos and Negros will be Deltas who will be allowed to be competitive enough to rattle Gamma White cages. Urban, poor Negros and Mestizos will comprise a violent Epsilon class to live in close proximity to and terrorize White Deltas.
The Alpha Whites fear a G-D White uprising which is why WNists are under constant FBI and DHS and other government watchdog group surveillance. Of course, the times they have been overthrown in the past is when they took their eye off the Jew who took the opportunity to stab them in the back (French and Russian revolutions).
However, I DO believe the modest successes of the Tea Party activists have rattled quite a few Alpha White cages. God knows that TPA was long overdue. Enough of them were taken out out by what they perceive to be G-D Whites to scare them and I don’t think the TPAs are going to quit now that they have whetted their appetites and have a taste for blood, so to speak. This past election was quite an interesting learning experience and if they can keep the Repugnant Alpha White establishment from co-opting the TP for more Neo-Con misadventures in the mideast, we might be able to wrest our country away from the DWLs. Let us hope and pray so.
Clytemnestra, that is a great family story, we need to keep those alive. We all need to write down any stories that relate to our history as Whitesand save them, so that future generation get a fuller vision of what actually happened.
That’s your opinion, asshole. And your opinion is worth…not very much.
Christian Lander is so Jewish that he even has a Jewfro:
http://stuffwhitedbagslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/81437149.jpg
ZOG, you don’t want to become the stereotype of the “Hollywood Nazi”, believing in conspiracy theories and using ethnic slurs. The SPLC knows how to defeat that kind of person. They can beat the skinhead every time. It’s the real White Advocates that think that they can’t handle.
Jewy Jeff Maylor does his best Rodney King impression. “C…C…Can’t we all just get along?” Yer dyin up there, Jewy Jeff; it’s pitiful. The blackface just isn’t working for ya. I know it worked for Al Jolson, but it doesn’t work for YOU, bubbelah, and that’s the point.
I don’t understand why people in this community look down upon whites who live in city? I can understand why people would want to live in rural areas, but the suburbs? Why would anyone want to be 25-50 miles from work, stuck in traffic, dependent on a car/highways, shop at a strip mall, expose their eyes to some of the ugliest architecture ever, and live in a house made of sawdust and drywall? Immigration is bad for all of us, but at least in Europe, they do the opposite(smart thing), and they send the immigrants to the “burbs”.
The reason people live in suburbs is White flight pure and simple. It is almost always White people trying to get away from Blacks and Hispanics. So they don’t choose to live far away, they are forced to.
Greg,
By design Lander consistently omits the #1 SWPL item: fat juicy staff salaries and benefits from public & “non-profit” private colleges and 501c3 “non-profits”. And “contracts” from the same entities.
We White Nationalists need communism, or its moral equivalent, if we are going to bring our elites in line.
The “existing elites” are wide open to attack on moral grounds on their #1 SWPL by a populist “moral equivalent” of communism. The problem is existing non-elites in the non-movement have no interest in leading this assault. That’s for the best because they are clueless about what kind of attack plan to use anyway.
XPWA
So what are you now?
Nothing like some first person research to shine a light on the Zeitgeist! That’s what makes this article — he actually went and met someone in person. We got to get out more like this, and encounter people in the discourse. it makes a huge difference as opposed to just talking among ourselves.
I think the economics of the near future are going to shape the culture. Economics doesn’t always shape culture, but in a plutocracy it does. Plutocracy is a reigning deific oligarchy — they are like gods over us right now. The big question is — are they Gotte or Gotze? Is this their Dammerung, or wlil they slink out one more time, to reign another day?
What I find interesting is how the Brown Right is a phenomenon as much as the White Right. The “Brown Right” being any sort of NW ethnic bloc that aggressively pursues its perceived interests. The Brown Right may indeed be formed into shock troops against us. It will be the final step in a march that was begun with Emma Lazarus’s poem being affixed to the Statue of Liberty, or perhaps long before even this.
The USA is a cycle is all it is, both a cycle in the historical sense, and like a motorcycle. It is a certain model that had a good run, and then seized itself up when it let its engine (the economy) running too hot.
If you let the engine run too hot, you melt the metal that the engine is made of. Hence “economic meltdown.” Not unlike a nuclear reactor. Social process mirror scientific processes.
When the engine is gone, that is ZOG’s engine. I suspect that it’s going to be a bit like “The Terminator” except Skynet will be insane plutocrats killing us via video game. It might even be a network distributed sport, like World of Warcraft using Reaper drones. But those plutocrats will need a functioning world ot feed them. The big problem is they’ll create a world not worth living in, even for them. then they won’t be able to sustain the drones anymore. they won’t have the infrastructure.
So we may have to look forward to a couple years of high tech killing to keep us in line, but then they will run out of money. Also, mindweapon tribes will develop that will be incredibly strong, because of the “strong antibiotics” (Reaper drones) used on them. Mindweapon tribes will be like human supergerms. They will quickly overcome any toys the plutocrats have left over.
I garbled:
“Because of my yeoman farmer stock, the irony of the large slave owners and planters are still romanticized, not only in the South and the Southern white working and yeoman class who never owned a single slave are scapegoated and punished by all Americans, regardless of color, with the nasty racist redneck label.”
Correction: Because I hail from working yeoman stock, I find it ironic indeed that the large, slave-holding White plantocracy is still idealized and romanticized in and out of the South while the poor, working class Southern yeoman (who never owned a single slave and often had to work side by side in the field with them) is scapegoated especially by the northeastern Yankee media as a vile, low-brow, mouth-breathing, interbred group of ignorant redneck racists.
Now try to tell me there is actually IS a race war going on and that’s ALL it is. Again, an undeclared class war is going on in the good ole USA between Alpha Whites and Gamma-Delta Whites. It’s been going on for a long time, but really heated up after WWII. Alphas use Non-Whites to alternately guilt-trip and/or terrorize G-D Whites into giving up any and all “White Privilege” via race-mixing, downward wage pressure and less opportunities, and loss of political relevancy. The Jews are the most formidable Non-White weapon in the Alpha arsenal, but too much reliance results in the kind of carelessness that enabled Jews to topple the French and Russian monarchies.
So, IMO the best way for White Nationalism to be effective is stop being paralyzed by what I call Judeophobia and keep the focus on the treacherous White Alpha elite who work hand-in-glove with them. If we had focused on the Kennedys, the Harts, the McCains, etc. ad nausea ad infinitum, the Cellers, the Feingolds, etc. ad nausea ad infinitum would have never been able to do as much damage as they did to the country.
We need to make Alpha Whites understand that we are all too well aware who REALLY has so-called White Privilege in this country. Moreover it is something that is NOT THEIR birthright, but something that has to be earned by them and they will automatically LOSE it if they cannot or will not live up to their duties, obligations and responsibilities to their own people. They need to learn the fundamentals of Noblesse Oblige or they need to get out of the way for people who have.
These people are too stupid and arrogant to come in out of the rain and will be purged by someone before this century is out. MY money is on the Mestizos who have this nasty habit of fielding their own candidates and voting out any Non-Mestizo candidates (no matter how much they have pandered to them in the past) whenever they achieve any appreciable demographics, as Bob Dornan found out to his chagrin.
I once got into a debate with a DWL couple who feels “the country” cannot live without cheap Mexican labor, reminded them that these Mestizos pay dangerous coyotes thousands of dollars to get them here and put themselves at risk of rape, robbery, and murder … all just for the dubious privilege of cleaning their houses and wiping their babies’ asses?! I asked them point-blank if they honestly believed that ALL these Mestizos wanted to do was work for them? “Can we be that stupid?” All I got were blank looks and then condescending smirks. I guess the answer to that was question is “Si, se puede!” Or “apres moi, le deluge.” These people don’t GAD about anything but their own convenience. That’s the kind of mentality we are dealing with here an it only merits our contempt.
“Again, an undeclared class war is going on in the good ole USA between Alpha Whites and Gamma-Delta Whites.”
I heard an interview with a prominent labor/union leader years ago who said something to the effect that people, for some reason, hate the people just below them on the social ladder far more than they hate those several rungs below them. An astute observation…it has mostly to do with fear, I guess. Proximity.
In the US, people can remove themselves from the ugly side of multiculturalism easier than they can remove themselves from trailer park cousins.
My favorite of yours Greg. Excellent.
Yes, I know, we’re supposed to right more than that.
Well then, since I wanted to respond but haven’t much time (what White group does that put me in?) I’ll at least add this.
One way to look at their arrogance and self-satisfaction is to see it as a deposit of a period of cultural history that most White have yet to shake. The Enlightenment, Right or Left.
Both kinds promoted, more than any other period of cultural history, thinking and operating out of the realm of the absolute.
And it was the belief (converted into a truth) in absolute reason that lead to the bloody reign of terror.
Whenever humans think and believe and live out of that belief (converted into a truth to be blindly obeyed) that they are absolutely right about everything they become the victims of their own delusions of granduer, and thus starts their rapid decline, their age regression into the magical thinking stage of a child. But they can’t see it because they are, well, deluded.
The aristocracy and haute bourgeois that created the world the middle class inherited are dead and gone from the world stage of cultural history. All that’s left of Western civilization is the middle class that inherited it.
They inherited a civilization that that took 5,000 to build and less than 200 years for them to destroy.
One of the reasons among many is that they don’t know what they have inherited. Their consciousness is not historicized. They don’t know that Western man has used historical periods not for culture tid-bits to throw out at cocktail parties to show other White people how educated they are; but as a part of our ongoing efforts to Know Thyself. But today admonition, one of the oldest and most profound evokes no answering emotion in them.
In short, they don’t know where their ideas come from and they don’t know that the period in cultural history where their ideas first emerged has a successor that is to the quality of western thought what the Enlightenment was to its quantity.
But they don’t see it because of that self-satisfaction, because of their delusions of granduer. And even if they could be made to see it they would then engage in the denial typical of all addicts when confronted with the reality of their addiction (and you can most certainly be addicted to ideas and cultural patterns. In fact, chemical addictions are only the most superfical, it is the attitudinal and behavioral addictions that we should turn our attention to!).
In any event, whatever they are willing to face or not, one thing is for sure – their ideas, like all ideas, and like everything humans do, have consequences.
But by the time they see it it will of course be too late.
So, what about us?
That’s who I am most concerned with now.
Yes, I know, we’re supposed to right more than that.
Pfft. to WRITE more than that.
I once got into a debate with a DWL couple who feels “the country” cannot live without cheap Mexican labor, reminded them that these Mestizos pay dangerous coyotes thousands of dollars to get them here and put themselves at risk of rape, robbery, and murder … all just for the dubious privilege of cleaning their houses and wiping their babies’ asses?! I asked them point-blank if they honestly believed that ALL these Mestizos wanted to do was work for them? “Can we be that stupid?” All I got were blank looks and then condescending smirks. I guess the answer to that was question is “Si, se puede!” Or “apres moi, le deluge.” These people don’t GAD about anything but their own convenience. That’s the kind of mentality we are dealing with here an it only merits our contempt.
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Great article, and great comments.
Apre moi, le deluge is definitely the attitude I have encountered many times! That’s a reference to Louis XIV who broke the French treasury and did imperial adventurism. We know what happened to his grandson.
Apre moi, le deluge leads to the dropping knives. Strong Babylon was doomed in an hour.
Louis XV
Greg,
So what are you now?
It’s described by a highly technical socio-biological term. This is being fast forgotten in the West, even on so-called WN websites:
“Father”.
Multiple times. All still with me, as is their mother. Prospective grandfather in a few years, too. It’s eye-opening considering things from the perspective of your own knowledge and experiences, but from the viewpoint of what’s best for your genes down the decades and centuries.
“Economics” are major. In fact they’re central to this entire process. In my opinion it’s why 16 of the 25 points of the original Nazi Party platform directly addressed economic issues. Most of the rest had economic ramifications.
To take a minor snapshot, our last child ten years ago required $30k at a “good” local hospital, plus separate ob-gyn fees. Quite nice hospital actually. Individual maternal suites, central atrium, etc.
Since we’re all white Medicaid and 501c3 “church” charity wasn’t available, as it was to probably all the many non-white mothers in private maternal suites in that same hospital.
So you either need a lot of money or you need some kind of insurance. How to do that? Don’t look to the non-Movement. They don’t know, in my opinion don’t give two shits, and their enemies are powerful and well organized enough to get WN white males fired.
I’ll be honest. The only connection I’ve ever seen between this website (or yours) and “economics” is right here:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/donate/
In one sense this is okay and even proper. Regular visitors ought to do the right thing and chip a few dollars in. It’s what decent people do for street performers in cities worldwide. I myself have handed money to talented violin quartets playing in the St Petersburg (Russia) Metro and accordion players elsewhere.
Here should be no different. If you’ve been entertained then you have a moral obligation to chip in a few zog pesos.
The problem arises when people deceive themselves into thinking this internet WN literary entertainment will result in a sustainable world for thesmelves, their spouses and their children. It will not. In this sense it’s just as bad as extreme Star Trek fans who attempt to live in Trek World.
Anyway, great piece on Lander and SWPL, Greg.
Best,
XPWA
$30,000 + price of an ob-gyn? Should’ve opted for a home birth with a midwife. Maybe the wife “needed” a c-section; was it serious prematurity, what? Ever consider why? Who should be on the financial hook for millions of white women so unhealthy they can’t even birth normally or produce healthy babies? And I’m not even counting the ones who want the hospital, the ob-gyn and all the bullshit trappings even if they don’t really need them.
If “we” are going for the high jump it ain’t because we are cheap or cowardly. It’s because most of us don’t even know the g.d. basics of life.
BM,
If “we” are going for the high jump it ain’t because we are cheap or cowardly. It’s because most of us don’t even know the g.d. basics of life.
My direct knowledge is limited to observing a few data points like my wife, sisters, mother, wives of close friends, etc. But based on this I’ve concluded it’s impossible to persuade fertile white women of reasonably high iq that they deserve less resources and should undertake far higher medical risks than non-white women. And which non-whites they’ll also be required to subsidize economically on top of everything else.
Could you can undertake what you mention as a personal real world project? With proper research design I’m sure Drs. MacDonald and Johnson will help you publicize your findings. If you were to obtain success with your methods in raising the birthrates of quality white children back above replacement level this would be a movement-shaking development.
However, I am doing my part to improve the white race on another Darwinian front. As you may know, young white generations are staggering under the fast growing burden of aged and reproduced-below-replacement-level white geezers.
I have consistently told my own four children they owe absolutely, positively no duty of any sort to these hordes of old SWPL type f*****s. Common sense says carrying dead weight like that would be detrimental to my physical descendants’ well-being.
Happily, the usual White Christian vs All Others moral debate doesn’t even arise. In this instance ruthless Darwinian selection and crystal clear New Testament teaching coincides perfectly.
1 Timothy 5:9-11 clearly rules out such an evil enterprise as taking resource from young white children and giving it to old SWPLers, or even to individuals like Harold Covington and the many other deadbeat dad mini-fuhrers.
XPWA
Kievsky wrote:
“Apre moi, le deluge is definitely the attitude I have encountered many times! That’s a reference to Louis XIV who broke the French treasury and did imperial adventurism. We know what happened to his grandson.
Apre moi, le deluge leads to the dropping knives. Strong Babylon was doomed in an hour.”
Sites like these like to make much of Jewish antics during the Russian Revolution and the Holodomor, but do not remember that the only contribution the Russian aristocracy, nobility and intellectuals made to their own damned people (when they were not using Jews to collect their taxes from them) were to pull stunts like Potemkin Villages (that’s where the good Baron put up prosperous looking villages that were nothing but false fronts to impress Katherine the Great).
And the French aristocracy partied on right until howling mobs of angry, starving peasants stormed their castles with heads on pikes. That’s the SWPL mentality right there, in a nut shell.
What saddens me is that it had to get so bad for the people to revolt and then the Jews took over and made it one big bloody bless with whole populations being slaughtered, starved to death or dying in gulags.
it shames me to admit how much President Barak Obama and his Chicago Black Thugocracy has been White America’s salvation. Thank God he got elected and having a Black face in charge of the Anti-White agenda for a change scared enough of the “wrong kind” of Whites to sit up, take notice, and organize the Tea Parties. There is no doubt in my mind that Whites would have slid that much faster into the abyss of endless wars for Israel, open borders and all other matter of multicultural nightmares had, God forbid, there been a President John McCain. The last thing we needed in the White House was another SWPL running the race over a cliff.
I pray to God BO retakes the WH in 2012, but in case he doesn’t, White Nationalists need to train “the wrong kind of” Whites to understand that it is far more important to their freedom and well-being for SWPLs to be neutralized than any other race.
I have posted a new piece that expands on some of the themes in the Lander review: http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/12/west-coast-white-nationalism/
@ Clytemnestra,
I think your Alpha-Beta theory is interesting and worth considering, but you’re wrong that the “WASP” (Alpha) element still has the real power in this country. Who would that be? Gates? Buffet? Their social and political equivalents? They’ve all been put in a political straight jacket by P.C. left-liberalism and liberal capitalism, they’re unprincipled, post-Christian moral and social sissies, and they and their ilk would never make any kind of “anti-Semitic” waves because doings so would jeopardize their financial bottom lines.
Today, probably half of the Forbes 400 is Jewish (JTA put the number at at least 139, but you KNOW that’s way low) , and organized Jewry dominates mainstream media. THAT is where the power lies, because almost every politician can be made or broken by media, and most billionaires can be made or broken by the political Establishment. It takes an incredibly astute politician like Ron Paul (and apparently his son) to subvert the media juggernaut.
Additionally, we’ve been instructed for decades by Jewish-dominated media that WASPs (or their post-Christian, White Gentile equivalent) have the REAL power in this country, so we can be relatively certain that that’s NOT true.
That said, unquestionably both Jew and Gentile sides of the corrupt, depraved Establishment coin/shekel deserve to be flushed together; indeed, in many ways they’ve melded together into one incredibly sick and evil entity.
Chris,
and organized Jewry dominates mainstream media. THAT is where the power lies, because almost every politician can be made or broken by media……subvert the media juggernaut.
This is precisely where Judeo-media juggernaut insiders lie awake sleepless at night. They’re increasingly not dominating the audiences for “media”.
http://newsosaur.blogspot.com/ Every other post by Mutter documents the decline and fall of the old line oligarchic media.
At this point Wal-Mart’s electronics department and the nearby Home Depot stock everything you need to set up first class production facilities. Just add what the non-movement lacks most; consistent focused effort, a little teamwork, disciplined progressive study, daily practice of learned trade skills and just a touch of talent. Of these five “talent” is the most dispensable.
The final detail is to eliminate production travel costs. Only lavishly financed Hollywood blockbusters can afford to fly cast and crew around repetitively. Therefore – ahem – localize – as much as possible.
And most importantly, serve a broad economic purpose for the desired white audience. This is what Enemy media does and pro-white media typically fails to do.
Chris Moore, I believe you are underestimating the Alphas. They have been doing this little do-si-do with the Jews for thousands of years and they know how the game is played. Again, I offer proof in every Jewish expulsion in history. They always managed to find a cozy landing right in the country next door. Often they were invited back in a generation or less by the SWPLs of their time.
Those that the Jews took out like the French and Russian aristocracies were caught napping. Please don’t expect me to feel sorry for them. They were the rare bunch who were fed their just desserts. The other Alphas historically defend the Jews from any “antisemitism,” holding back the lower orders until they feel they have given the Jews enough rope to hang themselves with. There is another pogrom, then an expulsion to teach them a lesson until they are invited back again. I don’t expect that to change.
So, I don’t buy, for a single solitary NYC minute that these Houdinis are in any kind of Jewish strait jacket they can’t get out of. You did take a shot in the dark and make a direct hit on ONE thing. The SWPL’s bottom line is money. Period. They don’t GAD about White borders, language, culture or any of that blood and soil schtick. IF they are running for political office, they will roll their eyes while paying lip service to what they view two variations of opiates to the masses; religion and nationalism.
WNists like to make much ado about the Anti-White agenda of Marxism but they totally overlook the misanthropy (directed at lesser Whites) by the likes of Malthus, Darwin, Spencer, Galton, Nietzche, etc. American WNists are so used to thinking in terms of race as skin color, they forget what race meant to these European philosophers (and what I suspect race still means to American SWPL).
I hate to invoke Godwin’s Law by resorting to “Reductio Ad Hitlerum but I can make the case for Alpha SWPL being Crypto Fascists. They see themselves as Nietzchean Ubermensch who are vastly superior to all others. Though they may represent themselves as Christians for political purposes they have no real use for true Christianity, so they attend sects that confirm their real religion of Social Darwinism. Survival of the fittest and their Will to Power. Most don’t really believe in God at all and I think you will find the vast majority of the “right kind of” White people are atheists or agnostics. They DO like to engage in secular humanism where they co-opt the “golden rule” message of Christianity by imposing it on White inferiors via “social justice” programs.
Hitler’s unfortunate excesses and antics drove them underground, but before he screwed up big time many American SWPL of the time were fascist, like Prescott Bush. You can’t convince me that the Bushes had a “come to Jesus” moment about the evil Nazis. The Bushes simply decided they would elect a new people to rule over, that’s all.
They are still fascists who have modified the way they say things, i.e. “political correctness.” They still make rules they don’t have to live by when all is said and done, especially if they are leftist Democrats (who have been caught out saying pretty vile crap every once in a while only to have it ignored as long as they pursue the anti-White agenda).
The one current theme of “Whiter Shades of Pale” that SWPLs already understand and WE ourselves need to accept is that there are TWO kinds of White people. There’s THEM and there’s US and there can be no kind of compromise between the two.
@Clytemnestra: “You did take a shot in the dark and make a direct hit on ONE thing.”
Amusing. But seriously:
1) In America, who are these SWPLs that dominate Jewry? Please name names.
2) I agree that Western elites have historically used Jewry off and on to do their bidding, tax collecting, dirty work, etc (see Ginsberg’s Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State, for starters) but that was when the West still had a strong Christian identity, and the “Christian” elites could unleash the masses at will upon Jewry if it got too uppity and greedy. This is no longer the case — in no small part because Jewry has systematically gone about using Jewish intellectual movements and mass culture and media to destroy the Christian moral order for decades now.
If anything, it’s the other way around: Jewry is now using the goy “Alphas” to keep the Christian and populist hoi polloi in its place.
I think a case can be made that Gentile intellectual movements trail blazed by pompous and superior secular humanists and even smug Christian elites got the ball rolling and instructed Jewry on their power and potential, but Jewry took the ball and ran with it all the way to “victory” — which is an empty victory because they not only dislike the hoi polloi over which they today lord, but they actually want to see them beaten down, enslaved, and again murdered en masse as precedented by Jewish Bolshevik/Stalinist mass murder.
They were unable to complete the job only because Stalin (who learned his murderous ways from the partly Jewish Lenin, and was of the same ruthless snake character as the Alphas you describe) started to feel threatened by Jewry’s power. There is no prospect of a new Stalin or Hitler rising in a Jewish-dominated, democratic America, and if he did, he would probably also be too Jew-tainted to do us much good, which means the only near term prospect of saving the day is for a mass Western civilization consciousness to rise up and somehow shake off its tormentors and persecutors both at the ballot box and in the street.
If this were to happen, I have no doubt the certain goy “Alphas” would come out of the woodwork to try to co-opt the movement for themselves, but that’s the beauty of political and ideological Zionism: it has co-opted, and implicated nearly all of the worst elements of the “elite,” who are now marked men. Let’s call it the Scarlet Z.
These may well have to emigrate to Israel as well.
“The one current theme of “Whiter Shades of Pale” that SWPLs already understand and WE ourselves need to accept is that there are TWO kinds of White people. There’s THEM and there’s US and there can be no kind of compromise between the two.” – Clytemnestra
Right. For the white underclass the root of the race problem is the white upperclass. Blue collar and lower middle-class white racialists subjected to non-white terror are really at war with a white elite allied with jewish supremacists. Trouble is, the “respectable” non-movement is overwhelmingly comprised of the “free market,” middle- or upper middle-class beneficiaries of bubble pension investments or multi-level marketing incomes. They are not interested in a communist moral attack on the EZ money inclinations of racial egalitarians in the white upper-class, for it would underscore their own physical and moral shortcomings.
Matt Parrott
For the record, I don’t think you’re a jew or “rolling in the sheckles.” I have a lot of respect for you and the activist work you do which is a lot more than I can say about myself right now. Sorry about that.
No apology necessary. I didn’t need to get all snippy.
Why isn’t the hypocrisy of cities like Portland that spout all the SWPL junk talked about more? I think we should throw that in the face of all our liberal friends. Portland is a very liberal city yet has almost zero racial diversity. It is one of the Whitest cities in America. At one point its city council was all White (not sure if it still is). Does this happen by accident?
Probably not. They put laws and regulations in place that guarantee home prices will be sky high which has the effect of keeping Blacks and Mexicans out. A lot of so-called environmental laws have the added side effect of keeping out the darker races. Is this just a random accident? Of course, not. Yet no one ever mocks Portland for its lack of diversity. Compare that to Houston.
Houston is very diverse – tons of Blacks and Mexicans but still has large number of Whites. And guess what, it is much more conservative. So I think we need to mock these SWPL types for their hypocrisy and ask them why they promote policies that diminish diversity.
I think a campaign to send, say, 200,000 people from the heart of Detroit should be started to help add some color to Portland.
Believe me, I understand how much it pains White racialists to accept this, but the truth and ONLY the truth can set us free. I am well aware of all the stuff about Jews; they are a formidable, intelligent group of people and I am by no means underestimating them. However, BOTH kinds of Whites tend to use Jews as scapegoats.
WNists are waay too nostalgic for the days when White homelands were ruled by White kings and nobles. They forget that the Alphas of the day lived in castles and feasted while their people starved in hovels and faced hanging for “poaching” a rabbit. They forget who allowed Jews in to the country to handle the money as usurers and tax collectors. They forget how these Alphas benefited from the misery “the Jews” inflicted on poor Whites.
These Alphas WANT to use Jews to pass laws that hobble and dash the hopes and dreams of aspiring, ambitious lower-class Whites. They WANT the disappointed to see a Chosenberg or Chosenstein or Chosenowitz blocking their way. That’s why they have and always will use Jews as their agents and middle-men. It’s risk-free profit. Fed up Whites will throw a pogrom and kill and/or expel the Jews while the rich Whites keep getting richer. This has been the order of business until the Russian Revolution (I discount the French Revolution, because Napoleon kept the Jews from taking over completely).
In any case, I believe the Jews understand the SWPL better than WE do. That’s why you turn on the boob tube or go to the movie and the vast majority shows aptly portrays, the villainous, hypocritical slimeball as a SWPL.
I think WNists make a big mistake in not piling on. Make sure in any SHTF scenario that PoC know exactly where to go to raise hell. Draw them a roadmap to the gate community enclave of their choice. If the White elite cannot stand for us then they need to be lanced from the ass of White humanity like the boil they are.
It was during a discussion with a Southerner about our ancestral involvement in the Civil War. Like MY great-great grandfather, his was a yeoman farmer who never held slaves. HIS ancestor got drafted, big planters were excused from fighting for the Confederacy. Before the Civil War, his ancestor had to pay more in taxes and go on neighborhood patrols, because they never knew when the Negro slaves would erupt and go on a killing spree like they did in Haiti. His ancestor lost his farm while fighting the damned war due to back taxes to pay for Reconstruction and a stagflation that kept him from getting paid enough for his crops while paying out for seed and other essentials. His ancestor ended up being a dispossessed sharecropper. And yet THIS man gets tarred and put down as a racist redneck white trash cracker by the media.
That’s why I want to scream and break something ANY and EVERY time G-D Whites want to put Alpha Whites up on any pedestal or aspire to be like these scum or get upset on their behalf when they are smeared by Law and Order, etc. This is NOT a mutual admiration society. These people do NOT give a damn about US. They do NOT deserve OUR loyalty or concern. There is NO reciprocity with them. Only treachery. They need to be lanced from the ass of White humanity like the boil they are.
Clytemnestra,
I’m not asking you to admire our elites, but I do think you need to put it in perspective. It’s the natural order of things for a tribe to be comprised of an elite and a folk, with the elite fleecing the folk. There’s no exception to this, though I would assert that up until recently, Western elites have generally been among the most beneficent stewards.
This decoupling of our folk from our elite has been mutual. The typical SWPL has actually inverted his innate role, projecting a spirit of noblesse oblige for everybody except his folk. Conversely, we have folks like yourself, who forget that we need an elite as bad as our elite needs us. This quasi-Marxist notion of taking up pitchforks against the rich and powerful is merely the folkish side of our society being ripped apart.
Granted, if our elites don’t awaken and come home, we’ll have to raise up a new elite from among our folk and run our current elites off. There would be a bit of a dysgenic effect to that, as the SWPLites have among the best breeding our race has to offer. Don’t mistake decadence for incompetence. The bottom line for me is that I’m open to either our decadent elite shaping up or replacing them.
What I’m not open to is doing what you appear to be suggesting, which is turning against our elites in terms of identity instead of behavior. If they wish to be a bunch of latte-sipping hipsters who throw “ugly sweater parties” and have more money and opportunities than I do, I can live with that. What I can’t live with is the dereliction of their natural obligation.
As you suggest, the admiration must be mutual. Though I think we should leave the door open as long as possible for them to change their minds.
Jeff Maylor, Apparently you don’t live in Portland. I do. There are blacks, mestizos and asians everywhere. You can’t go anywhere without hearing foreign languages and people who look like they just jumped off a boat. Don’t you remember the Somali Portland Christmas tree bomber? Portland has a large and growing African muslim immigrant population. Taxes and prices are high to pay for all the welfare freeloaders. Portland is a dead weight dragging Oregon down just like California. There is definitely a lot of white flight going on. Immigrants have taken over businessess and neighborhoods all around this area that 10 years ago used to be a white suburb but is now just part of one big brown metro area. And the politicians. oh puhleeze. Portland is well and truly fu**ed.
Jeff “I’m using my real Jewish name” Maylor: “Portland is a very liberal city yet has almost zero racial diversity. It is one of the Whitest cities in America.”
Another steaming pile of Jewy Jeff Maylor lands on the forum. Wrong facts and a very kosher agenda – by now that’s Jewy Jeff’s trademark. First, let’s get the facts right. Portland is a lot less White than the rest of Oregon. According to US census data, it is just under 78% white, but that includes a lot of latrinos, too. How many? The census also says that 13% of Portland’s population is foreign-born, and so it’s probably a pretty good guess that country of origin for most of them is Meh-hee-co. So, subtracting for that and other non-Whites that the census also records, Portland is about 2/3 White, at best.
Jewy Jeff: “I think a campaign to send, say, 200,000 people from the heart of Detroit should be started to help add some color to Portland.”
Jewy Jeff now proposes to further degrade the quality of life for White people in Portland by importing 200,000 more negroes. How many rapes, assaults, murders, and ruined White lives would be the inevitable result? How much additional miscegenation?? And this slimy kike still has the brazen chutzpah to claim to speak for Whites, and to care what happens to them??? Unbelievable!!!!
Me, I don’t live in Portland. I have a friend that lives up there and he described it as pretty White – but maybe that is compared to other cities. It’s also been listed as a very White city in the past. The census indicated it was about 78 % White. However things may be changing. Or things may just be much worse in other cities. Here is an interesting list of Whitest cities:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/news_impact/2009/01/race.top40.jpg
Clytemnestra,
You’re angry screeds against corrupt, compromised Whites and pseudo Christians are valid, but all they prove is that White Judas’ are easily corrupted by Jewish Pharisees.
I’m still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, so I’ll ask the question again:
Vis-à-vis today, in contemporarily America, “Who are these SWPLs that dominate Jewry? Please name names.”
If you are unable or unwilling to answer, it must be assumed that you are shill, likely for Jewry — particularly in light of your eagerness to dismiss Jewish Bolshevik, holocaust-level extermination of White Christians.
Chris you are impressive. It even fooled Kievsky, and he is a very bright man. It is rather fun to pick them out though isn’t it?
Also the “suit and tie” or yuppie uniform self-appointed saviors of the Race think they will “sneak up” on the enemy. Yeah, for 3,000 years they’ve been studying how to destroy the White race, Whites are not even aware who is doing what to them.
Admittedly, the nobility in Russia was decadent (though they, and more over the upwardly mobile middle class were producing some amazing art, music, and science), but I think that even before the Revolution Jews had tremendous influence. That they had influence over the left goes without saying, but were the famous May Laws really that effective men like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Polyakov existed?
The situation in Russia was clearly far from ideal, but industrialization was brutal everywhere…was there really no other option for Russia but Bolshevism?
And incidentally, speaking of Shmuel Polyakov… where’s the Bokri cathedral today?
Chris Moore,
The idea that I should have some mysterious inside knowledge of which Big White “dominates” the Jews or I am a Jewish schill is absurd. I have never claimed to be in the loop. I look at the history and come to my own conclusions. Rich Whites (like Johnson & Johnson) have not flaunted their wealth and power since the Robber Baron era. “If you got it, flaunt it” is so nouveau riche, my dear (code word for Jew, IMO). Old money lives quietly and keeps their wealth parked in trusts and charities. There is no scenario where some silver-haired White Magnate is barking out a bunch of orders to servile jews. I am saying they have MUTUAL INTERESTS and OBJECTIVES that have CONVERGED against US … for the time being.
Why is hard for you to imagine both consider THEMSELVES the Alpha, the OTHER the Beta? There is no argument that they consider US the Gamma-Deltas that need to be subjected, right? They jockey for the top position. Right now, it LOOKS like the Jews have the ascendancy, but that was only possible after EVERY rich White imaginable co-signed on EVERY Anti-White measure imaginable. But I sense some fissures coming from Alpha Whites. To me, there is no real right winged opposition in this country or the west right now. In this country, the Repugnants are nothing more than the controlled opposition sock puppets to the Democrats. (That’s why “compromise” is the first thing out of their mouths even when they win by overwhelming majorities while “we won, we rule” is the first thing out of Democrat mouths even if they achieve a one member majority). So, I watch what the leftists are doing and I see some interesting movement which strikes me as NOT GOOD FOR THE JEWS.
In Europe, I see Islam being talked up by Prince Charles. I see the Archbishop of Canterbury yammering that Christians should pray to Allah. In America, I see Muslim refugees allowed to flood this country every time the USA so much as blinks at an Islamic country. I see footbaths being constructed in public restrooms at “taxpayer expense,” I see Islam being taught and Muslim students being encouraged to pray in public schools all over the White Western world. Now, this is the point where the ACLU or some other militant atheist group should be raising hell, right? God knows they worked hard (and still do) to remove any and all Christian activity from the public venue. So, they should be agitating against this, right? Wrong!
So, it stands to reason that SOME ONE wants to elect a NEW GOD. One that is interestingly enough very hostile to Jewish, Zionist interests. I wonder who that could be, hmmm? Please name the Jewish agenda behind THIS brain fart? Yes, you can mention a few “me, too” Jews like Finkelstein agitating against Zionism, but in view of how Jews like to be on every side of every issue while working frantically to co-opt it and divert it to their own interests, that means NADA to me. So, MY theory and that is all it is (because I am in no position to provide any proof) is that White Alphas (who have always despised Christianity anyway) realize that it has been completely compromised by Jewry which is why ALL the talking heads burp out out what it has mutated into; Judeo-Christianity. The two are never uncoupled anymore and it is a given that probably almost ALL practicing American Christians are Christian Zionists.
The Alphas are too smart to fall into the trap many White Nationalists have by questioning the Sacred Six Million Jewish Holocaust mythos. In ten or twenty years, all the “Holocaust Survivors” will be dead, anyway. To counter the Christian Zionists, they are championing NEW victims; the poor little Palestinian, the poor displaced Arab diaspora being driven out of their homelands thanks to endless wars for Israel. The narrative of Israel as this violent, fascist, racist, apartheid state is gaining traction. Zionism is being equated with Nazism. It was obstensibly to battle Zionism = Racism that African Jews were admitted to Israel amost two decades ago. Interestingly enough it was Uber-WASP, George Herbert Walker Bush who was involved in “gathering” Black Ethopian Jews to a reluctant White Ashkenazi Israeli majority under 1984′s “Operation Moses” and 1985′s “Operation Joshua” during Reagan’s second term (which many suspect was the de-facto Bush term after the assassination attempt) AND “Operation Solomon” in 1991. And Israel has had problems with Black African Jews trying to get in ever since. I honestly suspect THAT was the real reason why he lost his election bid against Clinton in 1992.
I am by NO means discounting the antics of Jewish Bolsheviks antics during WWI and WWII as several of my own White Christian relatives in Poland fell victim to them during that era. However, unlike you, I do not underestimate what the Alphas are capable of. Again, I think the analogy that best describes this White Alpha-Big Jew alliance is Alfred Hitchcock’s elderly newlyweds. HE’s a Cinderella Serial Killer. SHE’s a Black Widow. It’s a matter of whether SHE takes a bath before HE eats breakfast. Either way, I have NO illusions that they BOTH aren’t ruthless predators who see us ALL as prey!
I find it hard to swallow that the moving the Ethiopian Jews to Israel was a blow against Ashkenazi Jews or that it was imposed upon them by Bush–let alone that that is why he lost the election.
Furthermore, I don’t think that from a macro-historical point of view, Jews and Muslims are inherent enemies. There has been some Muslim oppression of Jews in the Arabian peninsula during the time of the rashidun Caliphs and during the Almohad dynasty in North Africa, but generally Muslims and Jews have colluded to exterminate/exploit/displace Christians–in Spain, Egypt, Palestine, even India, not to mention in the Ottoman Empire.
One can often read Jewish scholars waxing poetic about the tolerance and intellectual creativity of various Muslim civilizations–but one rarely reads such praise by them for Western/Catholic civilizations and almost never for Byzantine-slavic/Orthodox civilizations.
Matt Parrott wrote:
“Clytemnestra,
I’m not asking you to admire our elites, but I do think you need to put it in perspective. It’s the natural order of things for a tribe to be comprised of an elite and a folk, with the elite fleecing the folk. There’s no exception to this, though I would assert that up until recently, Western elites have generally been among the most beneficent stewards.
This decoupling of our folk from our elite has been mutual. The typical SWPL has actually inverted his innate role, projecting a spirit of noblesse oblige for everybody except his folk. Conversely, we have folks like yourself, who forget that we need an elite as bad as our elite needs us. This quasi-Marxist notion of taking up pitchforks against the rich and powerful is merely the folkish side of our society being ripped apart.
Granted, if our elites don’t awaken and come home, we’ll have to raise up a new elite from among our folk and run our current elites off. There would be a bit of a dysgenic effect to that, as the SWPLites have among the best breeding our race has to offer. Don’t mistake decadence for incompetence. The bottom line for me is that I’m open to either our decadent elite shaping up or replacing them.
What I’m not open to is doing what you appear to be suggesting, which is turning against our elites in terms of identity instead of behavior. If they wish to be a bunch of latte-sipping hipsters who throw “ugly sweater parties” and have more money and opportunities than I do, I can live with that. What I can’t live with is the dereliction of their natural obligation.
As you suggest, the admiration must be mutual. Though I think we should leave the door open as long as possible for them to change their minds.”
I concede several of your points, but how much longer do we give them before we hold our elite accountable and dismiss these bastards?! How many of us have to be robbed, raped, murdered and totally dispossesed before we say ENOUGH?! They have NO problem whatsoever when it comes to “electing a new people.” When is the proper time for US to select a new elite? When the hell do we wash our hands of these traitors and replace them with new leaders that WILL defend our interests against outsiders and be more responsible? When is it time for US to make these smirking, condescending, latte-sipping lotus eaters face the consequences of their dereliction of duty? Or do we leave that to the OTHERS?! Isn’t that exactly what the RUSSIANS did?!
I once saw this poster that said, “Discipline yourselves or others will.” Had the Russian working and middle classes thought to check the self-indulgent excesses of their elite and made them take responsibility for their own people, they would not have been one of the many victims of the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution who starved to death or were worked to death in gulags all over Siberia. The one fundamental lesson we must take away from the Russian Revolution is WE THE PEOPLE pay the consequences EVERY TIME if OUR ELITE screws up and GOD HELP US if ANOTHER PEOPLE is put in the position to judge THEM, for they will JUDGE US ALL. Erego, WE should NOW hold them accountable EVERY time they screw up, BEFORE it gets too bad and we are ALL doing post-mortems behind Gulag walls.
I have come too late in life to White Nationalism to be a dramatic force for change, but I feel it is necessary to put MY conviction out there that the current SWPL will NEVER wake up unless its in a Gulag torture chamber. MY worry is that we will end up right along side them. I will be happy to be proved wrong, but I don’t foresee the day where the SWPL will wake up and realize they need US at all. Remember, THEY are “the right kind of” White people and “no unhappy ending is possible” for the “right kind of” White people. Well EVERY type of unhappy ending is possible for the “wrong kind of” White people. There is a group of THEM that have the wherewithal to remove themselves to private islands and other countries so they NEVER have to face the consequences of their own stupidity. But the “wrong kind of” White people will ALWAYS be in “the wrong place at the wrong time,” shit happens, etc. ad nauseum ad infinitum.
At this point, no amount of obscenities I could type covers my deep-seated loathing for this scum. Taking a deep breath, here. In any case, while we are giving them time to pull their smug, smirking faces out of whatever snug, insulated little orifices they have them shoved up, it is time for White Nationalists to focus on training and raising up a NEW elite with a sense of responsibility to their own people to replace them. If there is anything to your theory that they have superior breeding, then let’s allow Social Darwinism’s survival of the fittest law to be enacted and presume that the sharpest knives in the SWPL drawer will figure out the clock is ticking on their reign of error and reform themselves before it is too late. Otherwise, they need to be taken out. Better for us if WE do it rather than allow OTHERS to.
I concede several of your points, but how much longer do we give them before we hold our elite accountable and dismiss these bastards?!
If there was a nascent vanguard among us, waiting in the wing, I wouldn’t hesitate to join them in toppling this regime – including the White ones. That’s not the case, and it’s an open question as to whether we’ll be capable of raising a credible challenge to the elites. To put it metaphorically, we need to keep our right hand outstretched for a handshake while our left hand grasps for a club.
it is time for White Nationalists to focus on training and raising up a NEW elite with a sense of responsibility to their own people to replace them.
Agreed. That’s where our efforts should lie. But it requires no effort to leave a door open, hold the tongue, and refrain from polarizing White against White as long as possible. Additionally, as you suggest below, the threat of being challenged by a credible threat from below may well be sufficient to flip them. In a microcosm, we saw this very pattern happen with the GOP initially laughing at the tea party, then fighting the tea party, then disappearing into it.
If there is anything to your theory that they have superior breeding, then let’s allow Social Darwinism’s survival of the fittest law to be enacted and presume that the sharpest knives in the SWPL drawer will figure out the clock is ticking on their reign of error and reform themselves before it is too late.
“Vis-à-vis today, in contemporarily America, “Who are these SWPLs that dominate Jewry? Please name names.” – Chris Moore
Warren Buffet, gentile defender of Goldman Sachs, jewry, and Israel, is just one example out of hundreds easily obtained through Google.
Without conclusive evidence to the contrary, any attempt to cast Buffet as “a secret jew” can and will not be taken seriously.
The SWPL people Lander describes overwhelmingly fall into the “iwannaberichtheeasywaytoo” category. Some exploit government opportunities. Others follow the path of “libertarian” investment bubbles or multi-level marketing schemes. All are vulnerable to a Marxist-like moral critique.
“Respectable” racialism is overwhelmingly comprised of EZ money conservatives and libertarians who haven’t the sense to realize that they are shills for the Warren Buffets of the gentile world.
One reason I’m a libertarian is because I realize Christianity is the natural order for Western civilization. Jewry, which doesn’t prosolytize due to its inherent institutional racism, uses the state to beat down Christianity, which it recognizes as inherently anti-Jewish. It then deploys the state into the moral authority void, which indoctrinates average Joe into welcoming Jewry as his overlord, or at the least intimidates him from making a stink as Jewry and its collaborators rob, rape and plunder his country.
An authentic Christian moral authority would make short work of Jewry, its Alpha collaborators, and most of the prloblems listed by Clytemnestra.
I think White nationalists
I suspect a lot of White nationalists resists this solution because Christianity is not institutionally racist, which they see as the the best and perhaps only long term solution. But to me, that’s arguing over deck chairs on the Titanic. Meanwhile, Western civilization is on the ropes. We’re approaching a white knuckle, do or die era. Anyone whose goal isn’t the break up of America MUST get behind Ron Paul/tea party libertarianisn and the restoration of Christianity, IMO.
But to me, that’s arguing over deck chairs on the Titanic. Meanwhile, Western civilization is on the ropes. We’re approaching a white knuckle, do or die era. Anyone whose goal isn’t the break up of America MUST
You are mixing your metaphors here, Chris. Either the Titanic is doomed to sink or the inflow of water can be stopped and then pumped out.
Personally I think it’s clear the water has already lapped over the top of Bulkhead #5 on the SS United States. It’s now spilling into Compartments Six and beyond. This process however will still take quite awhile from the perspective of a single lifetime.
To me the best case future historical verdict on the November election is already clear. It will be a footnote reading, “In November 2010 the Republicans briefly recaptured a majority in the House. But they weren’t able to accomplish anything.”
Since the great Tea Party/Libertarian wave was not able to make serious inroads in California this cycle, then please tell us the circumstances under which this can happen. All results in CA were in the opposite direction. The non-white Democratic Party strengthened its grip on that state. Yes, I know. Whitman and Fiorina were RINOs. But we had the closest we’ll get to a controlled scientific experiment right next door: Sharon Angle. Sure no one contests her ideological rigor?
If “you” the Tea Party could not dump someone like Harry Reid in a ground zero real estate disaster state like Nevada with 14% unemployment, then when?
I agree with Revilo P. Oliver about liberals, they are cowards. Only once it is more painful to be liberal than not will they change. Then they will be the most ardent supporters of whoever is in charge.
“Unmitigated egotism, which is necessarily a prime factor on all the higher levels of society in a “democracy,” is a political force with which one cannot cope directly; one can only attack the masks that are worn in public. It is, however, an obstacle that can be circumvented and one which could become an asset. The only strategic consideration here is represented by the truism, “nothing succeeds like success” — a crude statement, which you may find elaborated with elegance and sagacity in the Or culo manual of the great Jesuit, Baltasar Gracián. Our formidable enemies today will become our enthusiastic allies tomorrow, if it appears that we are likely to succeed. I speak, of course, only of members of our race, but the most competent and acute “Liberals,” who today declaim most eloquently about the “underprivileged” and “world peace,” could become tomorrow the most eloquent champions of the hierarchical principle (with which they secretly agree) and a guerre l’outrance against our enemies, if their calculations of the probable future were changed. And, as the Jews well know, the great humanitarian, whose soul shudders today at the very thought of insufficient veneration of the Jews, could become tomorrow grateful to the Jews only for the wonderful idea about gas chambers that was incorporated in the hoax about the “six million,” and he would probably find a real personal satisfaction in putting the idea into practice at last. As Gracián says, the prudent man will ascertain where power really lies, in order to use those who have it and to spurn those who have it not.
If one wishes to talk about principles or even long-range objectives to the representatives of this extremely powerful political force, one should wear motley and cap with bells; the only arguments that will be cogent to them are of the kind that always taught the Reverend Bishop Talleyrand precisely when it would be profitable to kick his less nimble associates in the teeth. Some historians claim, and it may be true, that Talleyrand had principles. If so, he never let them interfere with his conduct. He was a man of great talent and perspicacity, and he always found the right moment and right way to join the winning side in time for it to boost him yet higher. When age at last forced his retirement, he was equally adroit in conciliating impressionable historians by simulating regret for the methods by which he had attained eminence. He is one of the comparatively few perfect models for brilliant and pragmatic young men today.
Many of my conservative readers will find this fact disagreeable or even depressing, but I trust they will not dream of resuscitating an etiolated religion, and will not count too heavily on the spiritual effects of a possible restoration of racial self-respect and sanity. If the fact is unpleasant per se, it is also the basis for some cautious optimism, since it leaves open the possibility that movement on behalf of our race, if it ever seems likely to succeed, could quickly become an avalanche. In certain circumstances — not likely, perhaps, but possible — the despised “racist” of today could be astounded by the discovery that an overwhelming majority of the bureaucracy and of the White men in power above it had always been with him in heart. The sudden conversions will not necessarily be hypocritical, for it is quite likely that there is now such a majority which, ceteris paribus, would prefer to belong to a virile race rather than a dying one. But remember the proviso, ceteris paribus: no personal sacrifices, no risks.”
Athanasius wrote:
“I find it hard to swallow that the moving the Ethiopian Jews to Israel was a blow against Ashkenazi Jews or that it was imposed upon them by Bush–let alone that that is why he lost the election.”
Do you really believe the Ashkenazi Jews wanted Black Ethiopians admitted into Israel? It was definitely a rare case of being hoist by their own petard. A lot of the AJs thought restricting Israel to Jews alone would insulate them against America’s Negro problem. Then these Ethiopians applied for admission and the Israelis fought it tooth and nail but had to grudgingly gave in and brought them in with active CIA support, LOL. This was all done between 1984 and 1991 with former CIA chief George Herbert Walker Bush as respectively VP and President. His losing the ’92 election to Clinton within a year of prosecuting a successful coalition against Iraq was probably a mere coinky-dink and it was all about breaking that read my lips, no new taxes pledge of his. Right.
“Furthermore, I don’t think that from a macro-historical point of view, Jews and Muslims are inherent enemies. There has been some Muslim oppression of Jews in the Arabian peninsula during the time of the rashidun Caliphs and during the Almohad dynasty in North Africa, but generally Muslims and Jews have colluded to exterminate/exploit/displace Christians–in Spain, Egypt, Palestine, even India, not to mention in the Ottoman Empire.”
And that may be what is going on now. Nothing surprises me much anymore. I think the Jews would have no problem with a territory swap. They get the Middle East and all its oil riches and the White West gets an angry, bitter Arab diaspora to impose Shariah Law and make their lives miserable, because our idiotic White Christian Zionists encouraged the USA to help Israel dispossess them.
“One can often read Jewish scholars waxing poetic about the tolerance and intellectual creativity of various Muslim civilizations–but one rarely reads such praise by them for Western/Catholic civilizations and almost never for Byzantine-slavic/Orthodox civilizations.”
However, one rarely to never read any White Non-Jewish scholars or elite praising Islam … until recently. Now we have all these White Dhimmis, like Prince Charles and the Archbishop of Canterbury piping up. In 1990, George Herbert Walker Bush signed off on a Congressional bill recognizing the Noachide laws which (when implemented would outlaw most Christianity). His son, George Walker Bush referred to Islam “as a religion of peace.” Places like these always make much of crypto Jews, but I wonder how many crypto Muslims are already in this country? Further, I wonder how many of them are in power?
I may be wrong. I’m the first one to admit I’m totally out of the loop of power and what I post is my own speculation. Right now American Christianity AKA Judeo-Christianity with its Christian Zionists are in Israel’s hip pocket. Why fix something that not only isn’t broken, but is working so well for them? Politics calls for strange bedfellows. It should stand to reason that if Jews can collaborate with Muslims against Whites then the reverse is also true; Whites (especially those who have NO use whatsoever for Christianity) can collaborate with Muslims against Jews.
So again, it’s merely a question of whether SHE takes a bath before HE eats breakfast.
Christian Lander is just one of the judas goats leading us aboard the boxcar called Tikkun Olam for the ride to Noahide Nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam
http://noahidenations.com/
Matt Parrott: “If a person doesn’t look Jewish, denies being Jewish, and there’s no credible evidence of him being Jewish, then he’s not Jewish.
You make us look stupid with this hateful and paranoid garbage.”
Actually Lander does look Jewish, so who really knows? Jews claim to be non-Jews all the time. Look at Der weiße Engel. He claims to be a non-Jew but has been shown to be a jew troll. Several people have posited he’s actually the troll who posted here as Adam for a while. Apparently they were correct.
Sure, you call one out every now and then. But for what? This is a webzine, not the wolfschanze. A critical role being played here is pulling in people who don’t already agree with us. These people, by definition, fail your ideological purity test. Aside from a handful of legacy racialists, we’re all converts who were wrong on the key issues before we started the awakening process.
Additionally, these would-be trolls can make for convenient strawmen in moderation.
I have a liberal arts degree.
I despised fraternities.
Halloween is my favorite holiday.
But I am racially-conscious.
It is called “individualism”–and Whites are superb at it.
There is no idealogical purity test for most of us. Your statement has little to do with my post at all. In fact your comment could lead one to believe that you have your own idea of an idealogical purity test, which is the only one that counts, right? Believing that pulling people in through this site will be fast enough or even enough to effect change is self deceptive or best self delusional. Outside forces are going to dictate how quickly enough whites, the critical mass, will simply decide they’re fed up with things as they are and ready to replace who’s in charge no matter the cost.
Too many who call themselves White Nationalists spend their time strutting about and philosophizing, endlessly theorizing, arguing when there’s really no long term benefit. This is simply a way of avoiding what needs to be done and what will have to be done in some areas. Much the same as people talking and yelling and making noise before a fist fight. They’re trying to avoid the actual act of fighting. This site can help those may find themselves at the helm so to speak, but coming off as if trying to play NLP 101 with roundabout accusations is no help. ; ) Don’t attempt to discourage people who are genuinely interested in getting their people, their race, out of the muck. Muck created by a race bent on destroying whites. Mentioning that race who would wish to annihilate us must be done. Maybe not in the fashion of Der Sturmer, but avoiding it, avoiding mention of them, isn’t going to get it done either.
It is true no one is going to attract but a small fringe element by playing up Uncle Adolph as correct as he may have been in some areas. For now anyway, but as things get worse … Be that as it may, being timid and refusing to call a spade a spade or by not demonstrating that what someone may claim to be is not really what they are – a hallmark of the tribe since its inception – is going to turn the more “aware” people off as well. A lot of the people who are ready to hop the fence know or at least finally suspect the enemy is a semitic hypocrite with a cheshire grin. The big grin, talk of peace and togetherness, rhetoric about tolerance and equality, belied by the hate in his eyes. Just look at Abe Foxman or Alan Dershowitz, lol. These newly aware whites need confirmation and/or they need to see people working to check things out, not avoiding issues no matter how trivial they may seem. Collectively avoiding things is what has whites in this mess in the first place. The individualism mentioned by M. Prebost above is a contributor to this. We need individualism, and yet we need to whites to work as a group against other groups. Being timid won’t get it done.
The trolls would be convenient strawmen if in fact the Admins. would go after them and make a showcase of their b.s., which they don’t. They should, as that is done to whites 24/7 in the judenpresse.
Is Lander a Jew? He claims not to be. He looks the part though. Looks a lot like all of the Jews I have to deal with in my line of work. He looks exactly like them. Crypto? If he isn’t, he sure as hell is aware that he’s playing to their tastes, to what they want published, to the material that the ultimate hypocrites will provide him mountains of shekels for. If he isn’t a Jew, he may as well be one. All he’s doing is giving us his version of the dumb white guy commercials the jews toss our way 24/7 from Hollywood.
Your statement has little to do with my post at all.
Given that you’re using multiple pseudonyms within a single conversation thread, you’ll have to forgive me if I struggle to keep my narrative straight.
Believing that pulling people in through this site will be fast enough or even enough to effect change is self deceptive or best self delusional.
Many of us are laboring under the delusion that it’s still worthwhile to reach out to other Whites. Thanks for making that clear, that you simply don’t care if you run off Whites who are still learning about these issues.
Mentioning that race who would wish to annihilate us must be done. Maybe not in the fashion of Der Sturmer, but avoiding it, avoiding mention of them, isn’t going to get it done either.
This isn’t about you naming the Jew. It’s about you naming the non-Jew.
Being timid won’t get it done.
This isn’t about the radicalism of your rhetoric. You’re not standing up and naming the Jew. You’re naming the gentile from behind a rotating pseudonym. I respect your decision to protect your identity, but don’t do that then scold me about being timid.
He looks the part though. Looks a lot like all of the Jews I have to deal with in my line of work. He looks exactly like them.
His nose has no perceptible hook. His lips and eyelids are relatively thin. His skin and hair are especially light. He has a high forehead. He has small ears. He doesn’t have that characteristic “cartoon mouse” effect. I’m not saying he categorically could not be Jewish, but I’m not seeing it.
The characteristic “cartoon mouse” effect.
LOL
Matt, why don’t you tackle the gentleman straight on instead of playing verbal games? Pil Pul is what they call it. Lots of people use pseudonyms, including most on this site. Most aren’t employed by some organization that’s in full support of White Nationalism. But what makes you think he or anyone else is doing less than you? He’s using the same name in his posts on this thread. I think the term “parrot” as he’s using it is what is bothering you. It admit it is a bit insulting and I would prefer if the whites here who are for the cause didn’t try to provoke those of us who are ostensibly on the same side. It also isn’t much fun to see posts go back and forth with one or the other contestant stating what their counterpart meant or thinks.
Maybe people are posting exactly what they believe. Even some of the trolls.
Why don’t you guys stop fighting. Go after the real trolls.
Ted,
Most aren’t employed by some organization that’s in full support of White Nationalism.
I’m not, either. What makes you think I’m not taking personal risks?
But what makes you think he or anyone else is doing less than you?
He’s the one who accused me of being a strutting philosophizer who’s shying away from the fight. My response was in the relevant context. I didn’t try to lord anything over him or anybody else. What I said was valid independent of my personal context.
Go after the real trolls.
I believe that the people on here who carelessly accuse people of being Jewish create a toxic and threatening environment. I don’t run the show, and I’m not speaking with authority, but I think this place ought to be one where somebody voicing a dissenting opinion can get corrected, not accused of being a Jew.
Careful when you parrot: If [Lander is not a Jew], he sure as hell is aware that he’s playing to their tastes, to what they want published, to the material that the ultimate hypocrites will provide him mountains of shekels for.
Jews control the New York publishing industry. If it is true Lander got a $300,000 advance for his book, it was because he wrote something Jews approve of.
Can someone explain the significance of whether Lander’s is Jewish or not? I mean beyond a trivial interest? There are tons of people who have displayed anti-White behavior who are totally White. Remember George Carlin? He denigrated White people all the time. There are many others. And some people are just misanthropic.
George Carlin denigrated whites because it was in his intere$t to do so. The Jews would not have paid him buckets full of money otherwise. Same for Lander. It is significant if Lander is Jewish or not. If he isn’t, then he’s another perfect example of the type of traitorous behavior that is awarded by the Jews. If he is a Jew, he’s another example of the millions of cryptos among us. Either way it’s relevant and something to keep in mind while things get very dark before the dawn.
“In a White Nationalist society, we will still be arguing about drug legalization, gay rights, environmentalism, abortion, etc. It is just that the Reds and the Blues will all be Whites, and Whites will not have the opportunity to bring in non-Whites to gain economic or political advantages in their battles with fellow Whites.”
When non-whites are out of our political system, white middle and working class people will have a better shot.
Republicans have always used the threat of Democratic promotion of bussing and affirmative action to get enough middle and working glass whites to vote Republicans into office.
Then the Republican politicians vote for neglible capital gains tax rates, globalism, importation of cheap labor and union busting.
Kevin Phillips alluded to this Republican strategic concept in the first half of “Wealth and Democracy.”