Syria and the uniqueness of the West

Kevin MacDonald


One of the themes at TOO is the uniqueness of the West, which basically comes down to individualism. The great achievement of the West has been the construction of civil societies where allegiance to family, kin, and religious sect are minimized. In Western societies, the personal qualities of the individual (character, intelligence, talent) rather than these parochial allegiances are the standard of personal evaluation and in making alliances.

To be sure, the individualism at the heart of Western societies has never been perfect. There is a constant battle against nepotism, and such societies are threatened by groups such as Jews, where ethnic networking (i.e., ethnic nepotism by any other name) continues to be a major theme.

Advertisement

I thought about this in reading a Washington Post article on the Syrian civil war (“Syrian conflict’s sectarian, ethnic dimensions growing, U.N. warns“). Syria, like Iraq, is a typical Middle-Eastern society divided along ethnic and religious lines.

The 21-month-old civil war in Syria is rapidly devolving into an “overtly sectarian” and ethnic conflict, a U.N. investigatory panel has concluded, raising the specter of reprisal killings and prolonged violence that could last for years after the government falls. … “In recent months, there has been a clear shift” in the nature of the conflict, with more fighters and civilians on both sides describing the civil war in ethnic or religious terms. …

Many of the rebel fighters interviewed by the panel — including defectors and foreign volunteers — described themselves as loyal to Islamist militias or ­ethnic-based movements, and not to the opposition Free Syria Army, the report’s authors found. Civilians, likewise, are increasingly being drawn into the opposing camps, they said.

“Feeling threatened and under attack, ethnic and religious minority groups have increasingly aligned themselves with parties to the conflict, deepening sectarian divides,” the report stated.

A report from the Foreign Policy daily email summary notes the involvement of al Qaeda:

The most severe division is between Syria’s Sunni Muslim majority and President Bashar al-Assad’s Alawite sect, a Shiite Muslim minority. However other sects are increasing getting pulled into the conflict. Many opposition fighters interviewed in the inquiry were aligned with Islamist militias rather than the Free Syrian Army. Additionally, al Qaeda is capitalizing on deteriorating conditions in Syria and is building its presence.

In other words, there are not two sides in the fighting, but many sides reflecting the fractionated nature of a typical Middle Eastern society. These divisions have always been there; and ultimately, with the exception of the Sunnis and Shiites who are entering the country for religious reasons, the divisions are based on ethnicity. As predicted by the evolutionary psychology of group conflict, these differences become exacerbated in times of threat.  People retreat into their ethnic enclaves and are forced to choose sides.

This phenomenon once again indicates the hollowness of the U.S./neocon rhetoric about bringing democracy to the Middle East via regime change. If the Syrian government falls, it will change the faces of those in power, but will not change the fundamental nature of the society. Post-Alawhite Syria will be led by a different ethnic/religious group, but the society will be just as divided as before. This is what has happened in Iraq, despite all the high-flown verbiage from academics like Bernard Lewis about democratic nation building leading up to the war.

These areas have never been part of the West, even in Roman times, as Domitius Corbulo reminds us:

The Roman world was long coming under the influence of “orientalizing” motifs particularly in the eastern areas of the Empire, Syria, Jordan, and northern Iraq. These areas were barely romanized.

Western culture was a thin veneer that never really penetrated down to the people of the Middle East. The result is that the war in Iraq and the civil strife in Syria will not change the fundamental reality that these are low trust societies:

“This crisis [in Iraq] really is caused because there is pervasive distrust and an absence of institutions that can carry this kind of transition,” said Joost Hiltermann, an Iraq expert at the International Crisis Group. Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, a Shiite, has never trusted the Sunni politicians with whom he has been forced to share power, Hiltermann said.

Western societies have uniquely been high-trust societies, a point made, e.g., by Francis Fukuyama and a basic corollary of the psychology of Western individualism (see here, p. 27ff). The problem is that we think that everyone is “just like us”—willing and able to set up individualist societies with democratic and republican institutions. As Ian Morris writes in his Why the West Rules—For Now, people are pretty much the same the world over (see Brenton Sanderson’s review). We want to believe this so badly that it was easy to pull off the big lie. It’s the foundational lie of multi-culturalism. (see “The Iraq Nightmare”)

Not surprisingly given the Middle Eastern roots of Judaism, Israel has become a typical Middle Eastern society, with a dominant ethnic group and with a rapidly declining commitment to any vestige of democratic universalism. A couple recent examples illustrate this point:

  • Moshe Feiglin, a fairly prominent Likud politician, believes in “communal democracy” rather than the “liberal democracy” characteristic of the West.
    • If the land of Israel was truly a supreme national value for you, you’d understand that democracy has to fit the country, not the country democracy […] The State of Israel was created for the Jewish people, and its democracy is supposed to serve the Jewish people. If this state acts against the interests of the Jewish people, there is no longer any point in its existence, be it democratic or not. […] They [the Arabs] will never, never be fully equal citizens, in the national sense of the word. (Ibid., p. 465)
    • The liberal tradition supports a position based on one measure. It considers it to be a universal position, which is not biased towards other cultures, other values, other traditions. It believes in the values of equality and freedom of the individual, while the state is intended to serve the individual alone. The state in itself has no purpose, and it does not exemplify the values of its society. (A ‘truly’ Jewish democracy: On the ideology of Likud’s Moshe Feiglin)
  • While Jewish organizations in the Diaspora are intensively pushing displacement-level, anti-White immigration into Western countries and trumpeting the virtues of multiculturalism, Israel presents a far different picture. “The distortions in Israel’s asylum system ensure a refugee recognition rate of zero. Not only does this place asylum seekers at risk, but it exposes what appears to be a concerted effort to overhaul the system so as to deport as many people as possible. (“Israel’s newest national project: Ridding the country of ‘foreigners’“)

Westerners must realize that, contrary to the multicultural mantra, not everyone is like them. Western societies work when they are composed of people who are individualists at heart—an ethnic trait of European peoples. In the long run, multiculturalism  is a recipe for transforming Western societies into Middle Eastern-type societies, rife with divisions and unable to develop a civic culture of trust.

Indeed, as Robert Putnam and Frank Salter have shown, trust is the first casualty of multiculturalism. (See Frank Salter talk on multiculturalism at 12:50 of this video, from a conference organized by the government of Azerbaijan, Oct. 5, 2012; it is also the current TOO video.) The deep distrust by millions of White Americans of the Obama Administration—which was reelected only because Obama received 80% of non-White votes— is an early indication of these trends.

And, as noted above, when conflict and tension mount, people retreat into their ethnic groups to achieve the interests. And although individualists have a higher threshold for seeking the protection of the ethnic group, they are certainly capable of submerging themselves in cohesive groups based on ethnicity when threatened. As noted in Chapter 8 of The Culture of Critique:

Ironically, many intellectuals who absolutely reject evolutionary thinking and any imputation that genetic self-interest might be important in human affairs also favor policies that are rather obviously self-interestedly ethnocentric, and they often condemn the self-interested ethnocentric behavior of other groups, particularly any indication that the European-derived majority in the United States is developing a cohesive group strategy and high levels of ethnocentrism in reaction to the group strategies of others. The ideology of minority group ethnic separatism and the implicit legitimization of group competition for resources, as well as the more modern idea that ethnic group membership should be a criterion for resource acquisition [i.e., affirmative action], must be seen for what they are: blueprints for group evolutionary strategies. The history of the Jews must be seen as a rather tragic commentary on the results of such group strategies.

The importance of group-based competition cannot be overstated. … Ultimately group strategies are met by group strategies, and societies become organized around cohesive, mutually exclusionary groups. Indeed, the recent multicultural movement may be viewed as tending toward a profoundly non-Western form of social organization that has historically been much more typical of Middle Eastern segmentary societies centered around discrete homogeneous groups.

Share:
  • Print
  • Digg
  • Facebook
  • Twitter

64 Comments to "Syria and the uniqueness of the West"

  1. Norwegian's Gravatar Norwegian
    December 20, 2012 - 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for yet another interesting article, Dr. MacDonald. How long will we have to wait for your next book on these subjects? I’ll order a signed copy as soon as it’s finished!

  2. December 20, 2012 - 3:16 pm | Permalink

    I believe the good professor is misguided.
    Until Culloden, the clan structure in Scotland was strong. The slaughter at Culloden was purposeful, and directed by the Jewish owners of the Bank of England. The individualism was within the context of acceptable behaviour within the clan, or between clans. In some areas, Campbells are still unsafe when MacDonalds are around.

    In the early US, virtually all of the colonists were from Britain. They were in many ways like-minded, because they were like extended family. All that went out the window with the Revolution. Any person perceived to be a Loyalist was purged. In other words, personal qualities were irrelevant.

    Years ago, in the south of England, I heard the Cornish derogatrily referred to as Phoenicians. Clearly, a reference to people who were different.

    The hundreds of principalities that made up Germany, Italy, and other parts of Europe had a symbiotic relationship between ruler and subject. Each principality was individual, and often different from the next. The push to amalgamate Germany and Italy required suppression of individualism in the form of the principality traits in deference to a dominant force, or a bland mixture of many individualistic traits.

    What is happening today, is merely an extension of these past attacks on us. The phrase blood is thicker than water was a truism in the West, even 50 years ago.

  3. harry0's Gravatar harry0
    December 20, 2012 - 3:51 pm | Permalink

    ■The liberal tradition supports a position based on one measure. It considers it to be a universal position, which is not biased towards other cultures, other values, other traditions. It believes in the values of equality and freedom of the individual, while the state is intended to serve the individual alone. The state in itself has no purpose, and it does not exemplify the values of its society. (A ‘truly’ Jewish democracy: On the ideology of Likud’s Moshe Feiglin)
    Are you not contradicting yourself later on in the article. Are you showing respect toward non white people. Do you consider only white people Americans. Where is the liberalism you bemoan in Moshe Feiglin

  4. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    December 20, 2012 - 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Multicultural countries are also dangerously vulnerable to manipulation by foreign powers that, for their own advantage, back one ethnic or sectarian group over another. That is apparent, for example, by meddling in Middle Eastern and African countries by the United States, Britain, and France. Likewise, Israel and increasingly Mexico meddle in the internal politics of the U.S., and Turkey interferes in Germany. Having fifth columns in a nation is a danger.

  5. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 20, 2012 - 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Dear Professor,

    (Ibid., p. 465) is a wrong reference copied over from your source, and makes no sense in this article. Ibid. here refers to Moshe Feiglin’s book “The War Dreams” (Milkhemet Ha’Khalomot), as quoted in the 972mag article.

    Needless to say, it’s otherwise a very good article, as usual.

  6. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    December 20, 2012 - 4:39 pm | Permalink

    @Hedgerow: A point pertaining to multiculturalism I have often been wondering about. We already know that a few Chinese have spied on the U.S. for China. We know that some Israeli’s have. We know that some English have. What happens when a situation with one of these nations becaomes critical? Who will those cultures, so freely living and working in the U.S. support? Yet, all of the so called organizations we have to protect American security, are always strangely enough, focused on European-Ameircans as being the ultimate threat. Something is terribly wrong with this picture.

  7. Palestinian's Gravatar Palestinian
    December 20, 2012 - 4:50 pm | Permalink

    @Hedgerow: I totally agree with you but I disagree with the Professor. For the past 1500 years, the Shi’3ts and the Sunnis of Iraq had lived in relative harmony with each other, until the British came and applied their eternal rule: Divide and Conquer, just like what they had done in Ireland, where they fueled the sectarian conflicts between the Catholics and the Protestants. The same is happening in Syria. Yes, there are animosities among different ethnic groups in the Middle East, but those conflicts had never reached a point of killing one another. Mr. Mac Donald, I think you need to go and visit that part of the world before you give your arm-chair analysis about those ancient peoples.

  8. RES's Gravatar RES
    December 20, 2012 - 5:26 pm | Permalink

    “In other words, there are not two sides in the fighting, but many sides reflecting the fractionated nature of a typical Middle Eastern society. These divisions have always been there; and ultimately, with the exception of the Sunnis and Shiites who are entering the country for religious reasons, the divisions are based on ethnicity. ”

    I don’t know why you say that, as it seems to be a religious struggle first and foremost. The Iranian Shiiites have been sending forces to support Arab Shiites against Arab Sunnis. Also, the Turks have supported the Sunni Arabs out of religious solidarity, despite ethnic differences.

    Sunni, Shia, and Christian Arabs look the same to me, and apparently marriage between Sunnis and Shiites has traditionally been very common.

    The only obvious ethnic element to the Syrian situation is Arab versus Kurd, which is only a small part of what’s going on.

  9. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 20, 2012 - 5:34 pm | Permalink

    While Jewish organizations in the Diaspora are intensively pushing displacement-level, anti-White immigration into Western countries.

    Well put, Professor MacDonald.

  10. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    December 20, 2012 - 5:45 pm | Permalink

    @Palestinian:

    In the late 19th Century, the estimable Sir Richard Burton was the British consul in Syria, until he made it clear to all parties that he was not going to be the bill collector for the Jews!

    My guess is that Syria will be partioned, with part going to the Alawi, Shia, & Christians, and the other part going to Al Queda or more likely Al Ciada.

  11. John Johnson's Gravatar John Johnson
    December 20, 2012 - 6:08 pm | Permalink

    @Palestinian:
    There were no Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq 1500 years ago. And Islam did not conquer Iraq via the Internet. Tribal conflicts there have been ongoing in Iraq for centuries, so spare Dr. MacDonald the fallacious history and ad hominem attack.

  12. RES's Gravatar RES
    December 20, 2012 - 6:35 pm | Permalink

    @Palestinian: If it’s all the fault of the British, why has the Sunni-Shia rivalry only started to heat up over the last decade or two?

    Also, the British controlled Iraq for about 15 years. How strong was this 1200 year tradition of peace between Muslims if that’s all it took to destroy it, and lead Iraqis to continue killing each other 80 years after the colonization ended? Do you blame the Ottomans at all, considering that they ruled Iraq for much longer than the British?

  13. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    December 20, 2012 - 6:41 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby:

    I think ethnic Chinese in America will bear watching. China has a strong incentive to meddle in the U.S.

  14. fnn's Gravatar fnn
    December 20, 2012 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

    @RES:

    As far as I can tell, the peoples of the Levant have traditionally divided themselves primarily by confession with, as you pointed out, the curious exception of the Kurds. I have read that ethnic Armenians who were Catholics, Protestants or Muslim (i.e., not members of the Armenian Orthodox Church) were spared during the post WWI Turkish genocide.

    In his book The Might Of the West, Lawrence Brown discusses, among many other things, the Levantine concept of nationality:
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Might-West-Lawrence-Brown/dp/0896740064

  15. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    December 20, 2012 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

    @Palestinian:

    I think Prof. MacDonald is arguing that when the different ethnic and sectarian groups in the Mideast have lived in relative harmony they have been ruled by an iron hand.

  16. fnn's Gravatar fnn
    December 20, 2012 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    @fnn:
    something went awry with the italics

  17. Taras's Gravatar Taras
    December 20, 2012 - 6:52 pm | Permalink

    @Hedgerow:
    Yes, and those fifth colums are the reason why whites must organize themselves along racial and nationalistic lines now. We are under attack right now, and the attackers are steadily ramping up their violence, threats, intimidataion, discrimination and oppression against us. Whites will be forced to choose sides when open warfare breaks out, and our skin will be our uniform on the batle field. As for lack of trust, I DO NOT trust non-whites in general. I do not associates with them if it can be avoided. They by their words, and actions prove they are not to be trusted by whites, because they will advance their interests at the expense of ours.

  18. Rascal's Gravatar Rascal
    December 20, 2012 - 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Flawless analysis Prof. Mac. One can only wait in horror till this “trend” spreads to America by way of a serious economic crash.

  19. Taras's Gravatar Taras
    December 20, 2012 - 7:17 pm | Permalink

    @Palestinian: @<a I agree that many ehtnic hatreds are the result of outsiders either meddling in or taking over a region by force. I know Jews, Muslims and Christians had been living in relative peace for centuries, until Zionist subverted England then the U.S. stuck their nose where it has no business going.That is one reason why some Irish and English still hate each other as violently at as they do. It's also why Ukrainians, Poles, Cossacks and Russians have slain each other in numerous wars for the past 1,000 years. That is when they weren't fighting off the Ottoman Turks, Nazis, Mongols, and other hostile outsiders. The same thing is being done to the white population by the Jews ruling the U.S., animosties are building between different sectors of white Americans. Gun control, immigration, the increasingly oppressive conditions for my race in the U.S. are turning us against each other. White Americans are heading towards the same catastrophe or "nakbah" yours is suffering through. We are being turned into Palestineans in our own rightful homelands, just as your fellow Palestineans have been. It angers me that my taxpayer dollars is used to create evil against you, and me. Please remember not all Americans approve of this, many of us most certainly DO NOT.

  20. Crypto-Goy's Gravatar Crypto-Goy
    December 20, 2012 - 9:51 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby:

    While we let millions of Chinese immigrate here, high ranking people in the Chinese government argue publicly on how best to physically exterminate Americans:

    Leading CCP official argues for exterminating U.S. population
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-8-8/31055.html

    ——————-

    Obama wants to give China – along with Israel & Russia – a nuclear weapons advantage by unilaterally slashing our own arsenal by 80%!:

    Nuking our Nukes

    Lowest level of strategic review would leave Pentagon with fewer warheads than China

    President Obama has ordered the Pentagon to consider cutting U.S. strategic nuclear forces to as low as 300 deployed warheads—below the number believed to be in China’s arsenal and far fewer than current Russian strategic warhead stocks

    http://freebeacon.com/nuking-our-nukes/

    ——————-

    The Chinese government is building giant ghost cities in Africa for future colonization:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168507/Footage-shows-brand-new-Angolan-city-designed-500-000-lying-empty.html

    The Chinese are even planning to build a “China City” in the US:

    Michigan town near Ohio could become ‘China City’
    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/business/michigan-town-near-ohio-could-become-china-city/nNrWn/

  21. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    December 20, 2012 - 10:50 pm | Permalink

    @Taras: I know hundreds of Americans, that couldn’t care in the least about the plight of Palestinians. Of course, they are so utterly and completely brainwashed, that they don’t even know what their own plight will soon be.
    STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

  22. Sindbad's Gravatar Sindbad
    December 21, 2012 - 4:30 am | Permalink

    Individualism isn’t so inererent to european nations. Old Norse( and germans, dacians, antic greeks, romans, celts, etc), were organized in clans (sippe) and even had a goddes who protected the extended family. History of Rome is till the end of empire a story of families. In fact all patriarchal societies (and ancient europeans-aryans tribes were patriarchal to the extreme) are very found to their gens clans etc. But, if somebody is secure from the external enviroment and from the society, he dosen’t need to rely on his familie, clan, peers etc. he can rely very well on himself. Beeing protected he can afford the luxury to be bond to nothing. Nevertheless individualism become so strong in Europe (and America) because societies managed to overcome the hardships of external environment (famine, invasions, disease etc). And equal important because till very recently white societies were very homogeneous. A quality that Middle East it havent’t and will not have. “Multiculturalism is a recipe for transforming Western societies into Middle Eastern-type societies”, it is very true. Growing diversity will bring distrust, then low scale violence (Paris 2005 riots, London 2011), then rampant conflicts (South Africa since 1993-), internal wars (Bosnia 1995, Kosovo 1999), ethnic cleaning ( eg: of whites in Zimbabwe, and serbs in Kosovo). The final stage is total genocide (with the possibility of whites to live in reservations, but fortunatly the coloureds won’t be so “generous” with us).

  23. Dan's Gravatar Dan
    December 21, 2012 - 6:20 am | Permalink

    Interesting that Ian Morris is criticized for thinking people are “the same all over the world,” yet Frank Salter essentially begins his statement in the linked video with almost the exact same phrase. Of course, Salter means we all have similar interests, while Morris thinks our deeper natures are the same as well.

    Salter’s paper would be interesting to read…

  24. m's Gravatar m
    December 21, 2012 - 9:46 am | Permalink

    @Crypto-Goy: The “speech” by Chi must be approached with caution. One doubts that it is authentic–at least in the sense that it is supposed to represent the literal transcript of an an actual speech. Instead one could more rightly think of it as a political romance turning on a certain line of thought within Chinese politics. In this way, it may be analogous to the Protocols of the Learned Elders of ZIon.

    The “original” source, Boxun, has been associated with American intrigue, and the Epoch Times is an anti-CCP organ run by the quasi-political Falun Dafa organization. This in itself does not necessarily disqualify the report, yet one must be circumspect in these matters.

    The speech could likely mirror “hard line” leftist CCP thinking, and certain lines appear to be consistent with the still influential Jiang Zemin faction. However, as the recent Bo Xilai intrigue shows, Jaing does not wield hegemonic power within the Politburo, and after his death it will be a big question as to the lasting power of his legacy.

    On the other hand, we can remark that Xi Jinping was recently shown encouraging the PLA to “follow the party line,” and he was wearing an “old style” Mao suit as he was inspecting the troops. One must be observant when considering the CCP.

    Nevertheless, I do not believe that current CCP leadership, much less the average Chinese on the street, would support such a massive global killing proposition. On the other hand, the Chinese tend to see things within a wider “event horizon” than US capitalists, so who knows? More likely that the US will fall apart internally due to its own contradictions before there is another World War, be it against China or Russia, etc.

  25. December 21, 2012 - 2:27 pm | Permalink

    To KMac:

    The great achievement of the West has been the construction of civil societies where allegiance to family, kin, and religious sect are minimized. …personal qualities of the individual (character, intelligence, talent) rather than these parochial allegiances are the standard of personal evaluation and in making alliances

    But on Vdare you wrote ethnic homogeneity may well be a precondition of political systems characterized by democracy and rule of law.

    so are you making a distinction between family, kin (other close personal relatives), religious sect (protestant, catholic, mormons, amish), on one hand and ethnic homogeneity (white, black, brown) on the other?

  26. mari's Gravatar mari
    December 21, 2012 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Taras you wrote

    “The same thing is being done to the white population by the Jews ruling the U.S., animosties are building between different sectors of white Americans. Gun control, immigration”

    One dissident group I am positive was created by the jews to destroy any cohesion among Whites was the gays. The jews were successful, hundreds of thousands of White men, totally discriminated against in college, admissions, employment, SBA loans and any kind of goverment benefit joining with blacks and minorities who:

    (1) Get all sorts of benefits especially employment denied to the White gay men by ferociously enforced laws.

    (2) Beat them up in the usual 5 on 1 attack whenever they can.

    Why do I continue sticking up for Whites? We are all insane and suicidal.

  27. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 21, 2012 - 5:39 pm | Permalink

    @mari:
    Thanks for your kind words. Here is proof of how the alliance works. The Jews will not defeat Hegal, gays will.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/12/21/gay-rights-groups-complicate-lefts-narrative-of-hagel-as-victim/

  28. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    December 21, 2012 - 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Remember the Stevie Wonder & Paul McCartney duet Ebony and Ivory? We were told straight out in that song: “We all know that people are the same where ever you go” and yet, strangely, given such an “obvious, self-evident fact,” we were asked: “Ebony and Ivory live together in perfect harmony / Side by side on my piano keybard, oh Lord, why don’t we?”

    Is not this idea of universal sameness part of our modern pop culture rhetoric? (I don’t keep up with today’s ear-splitting, alien style pop music — sorry.)

  29. harry 0's Gravatar harry 0
    December 21, 2012 - 6:24 pm | Permalink

    @John Johnson:
    Tribal and ethnic conflicts have been part of history. What about the thousand years of war between France and England

  30. December 21, 2012 - 10:48 pm | Permalink

    @Adeimantus:

    “Remember the Stevie Wonder & Paul McCartney duet Ebony and Ivory?”

    I know this us somewhat off-topic, but since you mentioned Paul McCartney…

    Here is a video of Paul being interviewed on the tv show Good Morning Britain in 1985.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc2DOBobJx8

    What I like about the video is how beautiful they both are, especially the woman interviewing him.

  31. December 21, 2012 - 10:54 pm | Permalink

    @Adeimantus:

    And to answer the question you asked, the one I quoted in my comment above this one…

    I haven’t seen that video (Ebony and Ivory.)

    And my comment above was… mostly a way to highlight White beauty. Paul and the interviewer, they both seem like relatively healthy, attractive White people. I like that and I thought it was worth sharing.

    Have a good weekend.

  32. Karlfried's Gravatar Karlfried
    December 22, 2012 - 1:02 am | Permalink

    @Sindbad:
    I agree with your statement. — I am a farmer in Germany and here most farmers stick to their family, their relatives and to their farmer-colleagues. Also there are many unwritten laws about how to cloth, how to behave, and most farmers obey these rules. This gives a form of belonging together. We are not overly individualistic. — Another point: We Germans/white people need our homelands for ourselves. Not because we might be more individualistic than non-European-people, but because it is our land. Turkey, Marocco, black Africa is their land. We need no explication for that simple fact. If we start an explanation, we give room for others to twist the words. That art is called rabulistic. The result of rabulistic is the opposite of common sense.

  33. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 22, 2012 - 3:49 am | Permalink

    It’s a Wonderful Anti-White Christmas Story !

    A creative cartoon story from someone who gets it. And a warning of what life will be like for White children born in the future.

  34. Astraea Shaw's Gravatar Astraea Shaw
    December 22, 2012 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    @Palestinian:

    It is so very obvious that they go into all these countries to “divide and rule” . perfidious Albion – but it is ruled by the Jews!
    I hate that Washington Post and I hate those who do this. Syria is being destroyed just as Iraq was and it is the Jews behind it. “We Jews, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever……….nothing the Gentiles do will meet our needs, our demands. We need a World of our own.” Mariuce Samuel who wrote a book called, I think, “The Gentiles.”
    I do not like to see Arabs and others blamed for what is being done to them, blaming the victim I find horrible.

  35. December 22, 2012 - 12:48 pm | Permalink

    These issues seem very complex, and I’m not familiar with Middle East history or culture. And they are made even more difficult by people’s agendas and bias.

    I can understand why a small amount of pro-White people believe that killing all non-Whites is the only solution that will ultimately work for long-term peace. (I’m not saying I agree with them.)

    When I read about the Middle East or countries that sound third-worldish, I experience… some guilt and fear.

    Even as a young kid, I remember feeling bad for them and being afraid of their living conditions. I think I still experience some guilt for living in a relatively prosperous society, with plumbing and air-conditioning and clothes and vehicles, etc.

    (Maybe they’re happier than most Americans. I’ve never visited those countries or studied them, so I don’t really know.)

    In the past couple years, I have thought about how nice and healthy it must have been to grow up in a society where people were mostly unaware of third-world problems or even the existence of non-Whites.

    I assume modern kids are bombarded with images and videos and stories of third-world issues. (Not to mention requests for donations…) And I’m concerned about the possibility that our brains are not wired to handle that kind of information, which is often emotional and confusing and designed to guilt-trip people or push an agenda. Kids are especially vulnerable to this.

  36. dixie's Gravatar dixie
    December 22, 2012 - 12:48 pm | Permalink

    TOO sometimes seems the main anti-white disinformation site.

    BACK IN REALITY, and well-documented, the striving of the individual and the goals of “society,” ARE NOT an “either-or.” It is horrid to the white race to present the reality as if that is the case.

    One wonders if this is because some white groups want to HIDE what they’ve done to other white groups, especially wasps.

    In FOUR SEEDS OF ALBION, and many, many other books, it is HIGHLY DOCUMENTED that the whites could be BOTH individualistic and deeply in a community-oriented society. It is a shame that some white sub-cultures cannot even seem to imagine this truth.

    The Americans (Generational Americans, i.e. wasps who founded the u.s.) are constantly DEGRADED for not letting the other whites in (for being “clubby”) and so and, and then the same people who complained about their clubbiness, turn right around and degrade them for being too “individualistic.”

    Too bad the “white movement” can’t get a grip on this and stop lying about whites, and talk directly about how they have been both community oriented AND individualistic (capable of independent thinking) AT THE SAME TIME. That certainly is what Wasp culture can do.

    White groups that do not see that will eventually be left behind.

  37. George's Gravatar George
    December 22, 2012 - 3:50 pm | Permalink

    @Crypto-Goy:

    Actually, the Chinese have been building these economic satellite communities in several parts of the globe for years now. They are trying to get one built in Idaho as well : http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/china-wants-to-construct-a-50-square-mile-self-sustaining-city-south-of-boise-idaho
    In the final analysis, as their strategy of gaining small footholds in areas that they wish to (eventually) conquer moves forward, their policy of buying us out on small piece at a time will probably bring them much success. Our sorry government having sold us out long ago and increasingly becoming more indebted and obligated to the Chinese has created this problem for the individual states and their impoverished townships which now seek revenue by allowing Chinese business communities” to spring up in their midst in exchange for economic “favors”. After enough time has passed we may see our government handing over mineral rights to the Chi-Coms in exchange for reducing the national debt to China. At this point, nothing is off the table or impossible. In the end, China won’t have to kill us with bio weapons to “clean up America”, they can just wait until we starve to death in our own country.

  38. mari's Gravatar mari
    December 22, 2012 - 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Palestinian

    Guess you have never heard of the battle of Karbala 680 AD and the Ashura days of mourning, sort of a shia version of good friday and the crufixion without Easter and the happy ending?

    It was a good old fashioned dynastic battle between 2 sets of heirs to the prophet’s empire, Aisha and her Father, the prophet’s chief of staff and most powerful follower and daughter Fatima and Ali’s heirs, being blood heirs of the phrophet.

    Aisha and her Father won the battle and Shia and Sunni were born and have been antagonistic ever since.

    That muslims, christians and jews lived together in harmony for centuries is basically a jewish myth to cover up the fact that the christians were slaves, the jews the slave dealers. They stuck to each community and the christians became like the muslims and jews, total corrupt crooks, the most corrupt, crooked christian communities in existence. They had to just to survive.

    The White immigrants to S. California do pretty well. They stick to their russian, arab, armenian, persian and israeli crooked criminal fellows. I think crooked little businesses, scamming, total non payment of taxes etc is the only way White Americans can go if we and our grandchildren are not to end up homeless and banned even from the most basic welfare such as food stamps.

    Merit hiring is gone. Even the STEM jobs which would not exist were it not for White MEN’S genius and innovation are
    retricted to asians and indians not so much by the our goverment’s no Whites need apply laws but by the elite non jew White men who own the STEM industries.

    Lie, cheat and steal as the russians, arabs, armenians, persians and israeli’s do. Why spend more than $100,000 and 4 years of productive young adult life in college when for a $100,000 down payment you can buy your young adult children a subway sandwich shop franchise? Then they can exploit illegal immigrant labor and get away with a lifetime of cheating on taxes.

    And if you check black instead of White on the SBA application the goverment will buy the whole thing for you
    at 3 percent interest. If you transfer the loan and business to another family member every 5 years you will never have to repay the loan.

    50 years ago Dylan sang “The Times they are a changing.” They sure have. Short of violent and more importantly successful revolution Whites cannot change back.

    PS No White army is going to come out of the mountains of Montana and Idaho armed with hunting rifles to save us.

  39. December 22, 2012 - 4:50 pm | Permalink

    @mari:
    sadly you are right. what i fear most is there will be no white resistance, and whites will simply dissolve and die out.

    I think it can happen if whites become more an more libertarian in their outlook. they might find it less taxing if they simply marry with other races and climb the social ladder in that way.

  40. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 22, 2012 - 5:26 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:
    Hi Richard, you make a good point about the overload of information which is used to evoke emotional responses. I think that people react in different ways, few of them positive. Some seem to get compassion fatigue, others simply become hardened. Some use a distant pet project to as a badge of virtue while treating people they actually meet with cruelty. I think the most damaging is to attempt to keep us in a constant state of emergency. This deludes us into thinking that writing a check will solve all problems and that whatever may alarm us in our daily life is as remote as the endless horror of the daily news.

    We accept the thousands of deaths in car accidents as fate. In fact it is a price we are willing to pay, or at least risk, in exchange for advantages. The entire country demands change because of the tragedy in Conn. but we overlook the fact that thousands of black children are murdered each year. We are not a sane or rational society and the powers that be do all they can to encourage that.

    Despite all of the grim news, I hope that you have a very Merry Christmas.

  41. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    December 22, 2012 - 6:28 pm | Permalink

    @Crypto-Goy: “Thank you Crypto for the link that everyone on this site and every European-American should read. But alas, millions of people whom this should concern , are only concerned about the latest stupid operating system Bill Gates, or Apple computer is doing us the favor of buying, while they support everyone except the European-Americans that buy the CR-P. …..PEACE.

  42. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    December 22, 2012 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

    @George: George, isn’t it amusing that “our” government has for years and years now, downplayed the Chinese as being the communist Chinese? I don’t remember some radical regime change in China, do you? We have so many traitors in this nation that it’s mindboggling.

  43. Hengist's Gravatar Hengist
    December 22, 2012 - 7:46 pm | Permalink

    How have we fallen so low, so quickly?
    A mere century ago, the White race bestrode and ruled the world, with strength and confidence, nothing would (or could) stand in our way; but now, look at us; we are reduced to apolologising to our racial inferiors, for simply existing! How have we become so weak and stupid in so short a time?
    Jewish influence only goes so far; the core of the problem lies within ourselves. Has affluence made us soft and complacent? Are we down-bred due to the loss of our best young men in two world wars?
    Take a look at group photographs of White, working class men of a century ago; look at the steel in their eyes; then compare them with contemporary group photographs; the difference is startling!

  44. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    December 22, 2012 - 7:47 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Thank you for sharing the interview. I enjoyed it, and I agree with your point about “relatively healthy, attractive White people.” (I have turned off broadcast television because I so rarely see normal, healthy, sensible, and attractive, confident, andself-respectful White people shown in a positive light. It pains me deeply to watch Whites acting as self-despising, moronic race-traitors who literally worship and practically deify Negroes and other non-Whites — as is now the fashion.)

  45. George's Gravatar George
    December 22, 2012 - 9:11 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby:

    isn’t it amusing that “our” government has for years and years now, downplayed the Chinese as being the communist Chinese?

    Indeed, our government was so adamant that Vietnam and Cambodia not become communist that our country had to suffer the loss of many of yet another generation of young white men fighting yet another war far from our borders to kill yet more people who were doing us no harm. More likely it was President Johnson’s need to bolster the sales of Bell helicopters (he had an interest in the company’s bottom line in that he hid ownership of stock via purchasing the stock in his wife’s name) for the “war effort” and profiteering in the name of “anti-communism” was the real excuse for that war. Yet, when Nixon sent Kissinger to China to “open the doors” of China to “the West” (read to corporate interests) it was somehow okay in spite of China’s communist government. There should be a special place in hell for both Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson.

  46. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 22, 2012 - 9:42 pm | Permalink

    @Hengist:

    “A mere century ago, the White race bestrode and ruled the world,”

    No, a century ago jews ruled the world, just as they do today. Actually it probably goes back to two centuries ago. The British empire, for example, was the result of jewish merchants sending the British all over the world to secure precious metals and resources for them.

    “but now, look at us; we are reduced to apolologising to our racial inferiors, for simply existing! How have we become so weak and stupid in so short a time?”

    What’s happened today is the result of centuries of bad European philosophy which men like Nietzsche, Ludovici, Evola, and Spengler tried to correct, all in vain.

    “Jewish influence only goes so far; the core of the problem lies within ourselves. Has affluence made us soft and complacent? Are we down-bred due to the loss of our best young men in two world wars?’

    Yes to both, but Prof. MacDonald would also probably mention the natural openness and idealism of Whites that’s rooted in our genes.

    “Take a look at group photographs of White, working class men of a century ago; look at the steel in their eyes; then compare them with contemporary group photographs; the difference is startling!”

    Yup, like comparing a wild lion to one that’s only known its zoo enclosure all its life. The White soul has been all but destroyed.

  47. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    December 22, 2012 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    It’s a Wonderful Anti-White Christmas Story …

  48. Ignorent Miscegenators's Gravatar Ignorent Miscegenators
    December 23, 2012 - 2:10 am | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon: Perhaps what Kevin is referring to using deceptively flattering language is a highly competitive and jealous spirit that refuses close cooperation without the necessary forcing expedient . This is why he uses the term aristocratic as a great number of men wants to be a leader or boss in his own right . I have often heard European woman say (my mother included) that they find Asians insipid and unattractive .Those women have to gene that looks for the Aristocratic winner to select from .
    So we arrive at the terms individualistic and aristocratic , even though when one looks out on white suburbia they seem like conformist sheep , the men are really agreeing not to complete openly so as to rile others . Perhaps this is the fascination with watching sport ?

    I’m not in a position to verify if this idea is infact true . As with a lot of psychology/sociology the factors involved are very moot and subtle .Though there is this underlying form which keeps cropping up .The forced democratic sharing of power within each class or hierarchy due to ( …?) the egotistic Aristocratic nature of the men .

  49. Ignorent Miscegenators's Gravatar Ignorent Miscegenators
    December 23, 2012 - 2:33 am | Permalink

    @mari: I would think the best thing to do is to leave “New California” to the scum and leftists . Unfortunately a move to colder climes is probably the best move as much of the scum will stay in the warm clime of New California and build a place like Old Mexico . In a cooler climate it is easier to socially police new comers and deny them shelter if they are badies .

  50. William's Gravatar William
    December 23, 2012 - 3:00 am | Permalink

    @George:
    Tick mark

  51. William's Gravatar William
    December 23, 2012 - 3:16 am | Permalink

    @Richard:
    Tick Mark

  52. William's Gravatar William
    December 23, 2012 - 3:21 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Big Tick mark

  53. William's Gravatar William
    December 23, 2012 - 3:58 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    The Lgbt noise only tolerate themselves
    We need a European-Hetero Lobby ,
    Omg how assine the Future would
    Of seemed from 50 years ago

  54. William's Gravatar William
    December 23, 2012 - 4:09 am | Permalink

    You want solutions?
    Start with abolishing
    Fed Dept of Education
    FDA , ATF , TSA ,
    Ban , as in Criminalize Foreign Lobbies
    Elected & non-Elected Officials supporting
    Foreign Nations & especially Foreign Nations
    Run by weird Supremacists anti & hating with
    Conviction everyone else to be handled as they
    are : Traitors

  55. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    December 23, 2012 - 10:20 am | Permalink

    @m: I also would advise at least a little skepticism, with regards to the authenticity of this Chinese threat to exterminate all Americans.

    Having seen the BBC documentary, ‘Power of Nightmares’ a few years ago – I’m pretty familiar with the Trotskyite neo-cons tactic of lying their mostly jewish rear ends off and grossly exaggerating and over-hyping the Soviet threat – in order to scare the American public into going along with massive increases in military defense spending, and this allowed the well-connected neo-cons themselves to engage in some very lucrative and highly profitable ‘cold war profiteering’ due to boosts in the share prices of defense industry related stocks.

    This is not to say that I do not view Chinese Communists as a threat to White Americans – because I most certainly do. I view all Communists as enemies and believe our defense budgets should be sufficiently funded to thwart any military threat from them.

    The comical aspect to all this, however, is that we have a Communist sitting in our White House and he managed to make it there without firing a single shot.

  56. Sindbad's Gravatar Sindbad
    December 23, 2012 - 2:30 pm | Permalink

    @Karlfried:
    Even if I came from a different background from you personaly I don’t see any individualism around me. Egotism and silly nonconformism mixed with infantilism I see plenty. All served toghether and packed under individualism notion to hide selfishness, weakness and hypocrisy. But individualism in the true sens of this word as a person who rely only on himself, who pursue his ambition and desires to the extreme end and who change (even a little) the society by his charisma and deeds I hear of only a few.

    Individualism is itrinsecally linked by a very personal vison and the charisma or skill to project that to the others. And that is rare regardless of society.
    To name some of them wellknown, I see lord Byron as one, Martin Luther as another. Or Cristofor Columb.

    And in the sens you pointed as we need a home for ourselves we need a land only for us and nothing by us(in the national sens). But that it isn’t a given fact because stability is an ilusion what it is today it will change tommorow and boundary are fluids. You know better then me that after WWII 12-15 milions germans were forced to flee from East Prussia and Sudetenland and milions died.

  57. European's Gravatar European
    December 24, 2012 - 4:44 am | Permalink

    @Sindbad:
    and @ Karlfried

    Well said and illustrated and I agree with your insights. The only thought that came up in me reading your comment is, that no one is realy so individualistic or original, as all movers and shakers come out of, or belong to their present community and society, even tightly like Martin Luther, in which they are or were involved in, accummulated a wealth of information, compared it to each other and to reality, and realized that what is known, is not being lived or practized, and ventured for change by pointing out the lies, hypocricies by means with/of passion, excellent verbal and writing skills gained thru their education, and of course if they have a God given gift of charisma all the better. (meaning in short… they are the sum total representative of our present state, or world/community affairs, being made known and being heard…the being heard will do the shaking,… truth has a way of doing so)
    Is’nt this what this web-site is trying to accomplish to some degree? Perhaps someone that will follow in Prof. KMC footsteps for some Generations to come? Because that is what it will take to turn the tide around, or at least leave a bright white remnant in the US as a witness to what we were once were in accomplishments, and as a people of European white immigrants? Yes you are right, these people are rare who can accomplish this. but very needed for our survival. Modern said: Who will take up the cause or causes. In the jewish world they would say: Tikkun Olam…repairing the world. We need to repair ours.

  58. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 24, 2012 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    @William:
    it may be just our lack of imagination which caused our downfall. If you look closely the same path to normalization is being pursued for pedophilia. Very few believe it could ever happen.

  59. William's Gravatar William
    December 24, 2012 - 2:00 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Dr Lasha Darkmoon has a sharp mind.
    Our Weaponized Culture & Society.

  60. Rick's Gravatar Rick
    December 24, 2012 - 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Ben Gurion stated that the Palestinians
    are the Original Jews

  61. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    December 24, 2012 - 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Good article, however the eastern provinces weren’t even superficially romanized. There was a thin layer of Hellenism with the urban elites and some Greek colonies, but that had mostly been assimilated by native substrata even before the Muslim conquests. Anyway, these are indeed clan-based societies at every level. Clan loyalties trump even religious or ethnic ones, so the idea that a modern nation-state can be imposed is patently absurd.

  62. Stan's Gravatar Stan
    December 26, 2012 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    The clans, community and extended family in the West have been destroyed by capitalism. The praise of individualism is misguided. The destruction of the clan, community and extended family has left the individual in the West at the mercy of big business, big government and races which have preserved a strong community.

  63. January 3, 2013 - 10:23 pm | Permalink

    On the subject of American individualism, this seems tied up with the idea of the ‘frontier’ which of course was one way in which north America differed from most of the world… (except maybe southern Africa, Siberia, ..) The general idea seems to be it was a series of romantic, idealistic, spontaneous, unplanned etc etc movements and migrations.

    In my tireless bookshop browsings I came across Patrica Nelson Limerick’s book of essays ‘The Legacy of Conquest: The Unbroken Past of the American West’ (1987) which says (in effect) that settling was a hard-headed business with calculation and careful plotting. In fact it’s possible that Jewish control of paper money was itself part of the settling of the west (just as arguably the British empire was largely Jewish) something that Jewish films etc of the ‘wild west’ would of course be careful not to show.

    Something about it here.
    http://big-lies.org/NUKE-LIES/www.nukelies.com/forum/spain-portugal-empires-gold-rush.html

2 Trackbacks to "Syria and the uniqueness of the West"

  1. on December 21, 2012 at 1:33 am
  2. on December 21, 2012 at 7:13 pm

Comments are closed.